RE: Fw: [U2] Unidata logging of BASIC Runtime errors {Unclassified}

2006-05-14 Thread HENDERSON MIKE, MR
Thanks Phil,

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 Mike,
 
 You can do this, you just tweak the DOS verb to include an H in
 attribute 4 or 5. 

Changed Attribute 4 from TICERGM to TICERGMH

And it _does_ work, even stays there when the UV transaction is rolled
back.

Now, I wonder if I can get the SysAdmins to make that change in
Production ...
;-)

Mike

 
 Cheers
 
 Phil
 
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 Thanks, Jim
 
 That's brilliant ... Except it doesn't work in Transaction 
 State because you can't do a DOS /c ..., you get a 'Verb DOS
illegal 
 when a transaction is active' error.  Darn, it would have been really 
 useful otherwise.
 That's why we need a UV-supported method.
 
 But actually, if you're on UV 10.1 you can use the new GCI function
 UVRunCommand [see Issue Number 5616 in the Release Notes] even in
 transaction State.
 Gee, another reason to upgrade! :-) 
 
 
 Mike
 
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  Well, for Windows platforms, you can do something like this 
  (this is from ECL, but with a tiny bit of code...):
  
  :! eventcreate /t information /id 999 /l System /so MyModule  /d
   Error Test
  
  /t = ERROR | WARNING | INFORMATION
  /id = Event ID
  /l (lowercase L) = APPLICATION OR SYSTEM /so = SourceName 
  (any text, but most likely it's the offending program name) 
  /d = Description
  
  There are many other options (you can even specify a different 
  computer to send the event information to).
  
  Regards,
  
  Jim
  
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RE: Fw: [U2] Unidata logging of BASIC Runtime errors {Unclassified}

2006-05-12 Thread phil walker
Mike,

You can do this, you just tweek the DOS verb to include and H in
attribute 4 or 5. 

Cheers

Phil

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Thanks, Jim

That's brilliant ... Except it doesn't work in Transaction State because
you can't do a DOS /c ..., you get a 'Verb DOS illegal when a
transaction is active' error.  Darn, it would have been really useful
otherwise.
That's why we need a UV-supported method.

But actually, if you're on UV 10.1 you can use the new GCI function
UVRunCommand [see Issue Number 5616 in the Release Notes] even in
transaction State.
Gee, another reason to upgrade! :-) 


Mike

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{Unclassified}
 
 Well, for Windows platforms, you can do something like this (this is 
 from ECL, but with a tiny bit of code...):
 
 :! eventcreate /t information /id 999 /l System /so MyModule  /d
Error Test
 
 /t = ERROR | WARNING | INFORMATION
 /id = Event ID
 /l (lowercase L) = APPLICATION OR SYSTEM /so = SourceName (any text, 
 but most likely it's the offending program name) /d = Description
 
 There are many other options (you can even specify a different 
 computer to send the event information to).
 
 Regards,
 
 Jim
 
 
 [snip]
 
 Yes, Yes, YES!
 CALL OSEventLog(Category, Type, EventID, DescriptionText)
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Re: Fw: [U2] Unidata logging of BASIC Runtime errors

2006-05-11 Thread dave

Craig Bennett wrote:

Wally,

Collect your thoughts and funnel them thru the U2UG Better and Better
committee...
That is likely a better way than flooding this list. Just my
recommendation.
  


As a UV user I don't mind what happens to UniData; but wouldn't it be 
great if UV and UD logged to syslog (every platform except windows) or 
the windows error logs?
All of a sudden monitoring U2 errors is just like any other installed 
program -- sysadmins feel good, logs get rotated and archived in a 
standard way. And everyone knows where to look even if they haven't read 
a U2 manual.


Surely this couldn't be that much harder than implementing your own 
logging system?


For bonus points expose the system logging functionality into U2 itself 
so that application writers can also write to the system logs where this 
is appropriate.


I checked to see if the error messages were being sent to stderr very 
early in my 'exploration'. They're not. My initial reaction was why not?


We're going to use como with any program that touches GL. It's overkill, 
but the SOX auditors don't seem to live in the real world anyway. gr


Thanks for all the suggestions and responses.
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RE: [U2] Unidata logging of BASIC Runtime errors

2006-05-11 Thread Baakkonen, Rodney A (Rod) 46K
How about some other hashing algorithms like Universe has. I have some files
that have compound keys, where the separator is a '#' and the hashing is
awful. This is what GROUP.STAT looks like:

File = AUTHORIZATION modulo=529314 hash type=0 blocksize=16384
Split/Merge type = KEYDATA
Grp# Bytes  Records
  0   770 1
  1 1158318
  2 0 0
  3 1210922
  4 0 0
  5  964717
  6 0 0
  7 1221520
  8 0 0
  9 1033819
 10 0 0
 11 1077619
 12 0 0
 13 1028118
 14 0 0
 15 1047119
 16 0 0
 17 1211522
 18 0 0
 19 1081219

I have experimented with blocksize, KEYONLY, HASHTYPE of 1 and this was the
best I could do. I am sure that if I brought this file over to Universe, I
could find an algorithm that could handle this compound key a lot better. If
you need sample data for files that don't hash well, I have some good
examples besides this one. The developers seem to love intelligent keys, and
sometimes what they come up with does not hash worth a damn. - Rod


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Subject: Fw: [U2] Unidata logging of BASIC Runtime errors


So - we are starting our planning cycle for the next release of UniData
now.
Is this something that there is a ground-swell of support for?
If so - what would it look like?

All or nothing switch? UDT.OPTIONS?  udtconfig setting? environment
variable? All users? Just selected users?
New log name - eg unibasic.errlog vs udt.errlog?
Some limit to the number logged before shutting it off? (concern about log
size and filling disk?)
ALL UniBasic run-time errors or warnings logged - regardless of fatality?
Just some class of errors? Is so - how would you define the ones you want
logged?

Collect your thoughts and funnel them thru the U2UG Better and Better
committee...
That is likely a better way than flooding this list. Just my
recommendation.


Wally Terhune
U2 Support Architect
IBM Information Management
4700 South Syracuse Street, Denver, CO   80237
Tel:  303.773.7969
Fax: 303.773.5915
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Dave:

UniData does not have logging for BASIC runtime errors (IBM got back with
me
on this).  There aren't enough requests for this feature to include it in
UniData.  :-(

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RE: [U2] Unidata logging of BASIC Runtime errors

2006-05-11 Thread Doug Miller
Have you tried undersizing the file to force data into the other 
groups?  From the sample, it looks as if your groups with data are 
not overflowing and consequently, the file may be oversized.


Of course I am not looking at the entire stats so I could be off base.

At 09:07 AM 5/11/2006, Baakkonen, Rodney A (Rod)  46K wrote:

How about some other hashing algorithms like Universe has. I have some files
that have compound keys, where the separator is a '#' and the hashing is
awful. This is what GROUP.STAT looks like:



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RE: [U2] Unidata logging of BASIC Runtime errors

2006-05-11 Thread Robert DunnMiller
I have seen this happen before when the minimum.modulo is too small (usually
the original size of the file). As to the # delimiter in the key, that
will contribute to poor hashing, but I would recommend the first step to be
resizing, and resetting the minimum.modulo to the same size as the resize
modulo.

HTH

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Regards,
 
Robert
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How about some other hashing algorithms like Universe has. I have some files
that have compound keys, where the separator is a '#' and the hashing is
awful. This is what GROUP.STAT looks like:

File = AUTHORIZATION modulo=529314 hash type=0 blocksize=16384
Split/Merge type = KEYDATA
Grp# Bytes  Records
  0   770 1
  1 1158318
  2 0 0
  3 1210922
  4 0 0
  5  964717
  6 0 0
  7 1221520
  8 0 0
  9 1033819
 10 0 0
 11 1077619
 12 0 0
 13 1028118
 14 0 0
 15 1047119
 16 0 0
 17 1211522
 18 0 0
 19 1081219

I have experimented with blocksize, KEYONLY, HASHTYPE of 1 and this was the
best I could do. I am sure that if I brought this file over to Universe, I
could find an algorithm that could handle this compound key a lot better. If
you need sample data for files that don't hash well, I have some good
examples besides this one. The developers seem to love intelligent keys, and
sometimes what they come up with does not hash worth a damn. - Rod


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Subject: Fw: [U2] Unidata logging of BASIC Runtime errors


So - we are starting our planning cycle for the next release of UniData
now.
Is this something that there is a ground-swell of support for?
If so - what would it look like?

All or nothing switch? UDT.OPTIONS?  udtconfig setting? environment
variable? All users? Just selected users?
New log name - eg unibasic.errlog vs udt.errlog?
Some limit to the number logged before shutting it off? (concern about log
size and filling disk?)
ALL UniBasic run-time errors or warnings logged - regardless of fatality?
Just some class of errors? Is so - how would you define the ones you want
logged?

Collect your thoughts and funnel them thru the U2UG Better and Better
committee...
That is likely a better way than flooding this list. Just my
recommendation.


Wally Terhune
U2 Support Architect
IBM Information Management
4700 South Syracuse Street, Denver, CO   80237
Tel:  303.773.7969
Fax: 303.773.5915
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Dave:

UniData does not have logging for BASIC runtime errors (IBM got back with
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UniData.  :-(

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RE: Fw: [U2] Unidata logging of BASIC Runtime errors {Unclassified}

2006-05-11 Thread James Canale, Jr.
Well, for Windows platforms, you can do something like this (this is from
ECL, but with a tiny bit of code...):

:! eventcreate /t information /id 999 /l System /so MyModule /d Error Test

/t = ERROR | WARNING | INFORMATION
/id = Event ID
/l (lowercase L) = APPLICATION OR SYSTEM
/so = SourceName (any text, but most likely it's the offending program name)
/d = Description

There are many other options (you can even specify a different computer to
send the event information to).

Regards,

Jim


[snip]

Yes, Yes, YES!
CALL OSEventLog(Category, Type, EventID, DescriptionText)
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RE: [U2] Unidata logging of BASIC Runtime errors

2006-05-11 Thread Baakkonen, Rodney A (Rod) 46K
Some of that is due to the KEYDATA causing splits. And when the records in
the group gets rerun through the hashing algorithm using the new modulo,
they hash into groups that already have a lot of records in them. And the
new groups get nothing. So the hashing algorithm never puts any records into
some of these groups. 

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Have you tried undersizing the file to force data into the other 
groups?  From the sample, it looks as if your groups with data are 
not overflowing and consequently, the file may be oversized.

Of course I am not looking at the entire stats so I could be off base.

At 09:07 AM 5/11/2006, Baakkonen, Rodney A (Rod)  46K wrote:
How about some other hashing algorithms like Universe has. I have some
files
that have compound keys, where the separator is a '#' and the hashing is
awful. This is what GROUP.STAT looks like:


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RE: [U2] Unidata logging of BASIC Runtime errors

2006-05-11 Thread Baakkonen, Rodney A (Rod) 46K
The minimum modulo is not that bad. The current mod is 529447, and the
minimum 482029.

  Primary File Head (dat001):

modulo -- 122069
hashtype  96
version - 3
blksiz -- 15 (16384)
idxinf -- 10
bproof -- 1
multi-over file - 0
rm -- 255
prt_at -- 192
nullv  -- 129
beg_modulo -- 0
file_limit -- 20

  Overflow File Head (over001):

modulo -- 0 (not used)
hashtype  0 (not used)
block size -- 0 (1024) (not used)
next_block -- 0 (block 0)
block_count - 0
max_blk_cnt - 4077
file_logical_end  -2070724608
current_modulo -- 529447
min_modulo -- 482029
split_factor  95
merge_factor  40
grp_fre_blk_cnt - 5
file_limit -- 20
total_free_blk -- 0
p_file_cnt -- 5
o_file_cnt -- 1

  Free Block List:

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Subject: RE: [U2] Unidata logging of BASIC Runtime errors


I have seen this happen before when the minimum.modulo is too small (usually
the original size of the file). As to the # delimiter in the key, that
will contribute to poor hashing, but I would recommend the first step to be
resizing, and resetting the minimum.modulo to the same size as the resize
modulo.

HTH

---
 
Regards,
 
Robert
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Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 09:07
To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org'
Subject: RE: [U2] Unidata logging of BASIC Runtime errors

How about some other hashing algorithms like Universe has. I have some files
that have compound keys, where the separator is a '#' and the hashing is
awful. This is what GROUP.STAT looks like:

File = AUTHORIZATION modulo=529314 hash type=0 blocksize=16384
Split/Merge type = KEYDATA
Grp# Bytes  Records
  0   770 1
  1 1158318
  2 0 0
  3 1210922
  4 0 0
  5  964717
  6 0 0
  7 1221520
  8 0 0
  9 1033819
 10 0 0
 11 1077619
 12 0 0
 13 1028118
 14 0 0
 15 1047119
 16 0 0
 17 1211522
 18 0 0
 19 1081219

I have experimented with blocksize, KEYONLY, HASHTYPE of 1 and this was the
best I could do. I am sure that if I brought this file over to Universe, I
could find an algorithm that could handle this compound key a lot better. If
you need sample data for files that don't hash well, I have some good
examples besides this one. The developers seem to love intelligent keys, and
sometimes what they come up with does not hash worth a damn. - Rod


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Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 10:38 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Fw: [U2] Unidata logging of BASIC Runtime errors


So - we are starting our planning cycle for the next release of UniData
now.
Is this something that there is a ground-swell of support for?
If so - what would it look like?

All or nothing switch? UDT.OPTIONS?  udtconfig setting? environment
variable? All users? Just selected users?
New log name - eg unibasic.errlog vs udt.errlog?
Some limit to the number logged before shutting it off? (concern about log
size and filling disk?)
ALL UniBasic run-time errors or warnings logged - regardless of fatality?
Just some class of errors? Is so - how would you define the ones you want
logged?

Collect your thoughts and funnel them thru the U2UG Better and Better
committee...
That is likely a better way than flooding this list. Just my
recommendation.


Wally Terhune
U2 Support Architect
IBM Information Management
4700 South Syracuse Street, Denver, CO   80237
Tel:  303.773.7969
Fax: 303.773.5915
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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UniData does not have logging for BASIC runtime errors (IBM got back with
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UniData

Fw: [U2] Unidata logging of BASIC Runtime errors

2006-05-11 Thread Wally Terhune
average record size?
standard deviation from average on record size?

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The minimum modulo is not that bad. The current mod is 529447, and the
minimum 482029.

  Primary File Head (dat001):

modulo -- 122069
hashtype  96
version - 3
blksiz -- 15 (16384)
idxinf -- 10
bproof -- 1
multi-over file - 0
rm -- 255
prt_at -- 192
nullv  -- 129
beg_modulo -- 0
file_limit -- 20

  Overflow File Head (over001):

modulo -- 0 (not used)
hashtype  0 (not used)
block size -- 0 (1024) (not used)
next_block -- 0 (block 0)
block_count - 0
max_blk_cnt - 4077
file_logical_end  -2070724608
current_modulo -- 529447
min_modulo -- 482029
split_factor  95
merge_factor  40
grp_fre_blk_cnt - 5
file_limit -- 20
total_free_blk -- 0
p_file_cnt -- 5
o_file_cnt -- 1

  Free Block List:

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Subject: RE: [U2] Unidata logging of BASIC Runtime errors


I have seen this happen before when the minimum.modulo is too small
(usually
the original size of the file). As to the # delimiter in the key, that
will contribute to poor hashing, but I would recommend the first step to be
resizing, and resetting the minimum.modulo to the same size as the resize
modulo.

HTH

---

Regards,

Robert
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A
(Rod) 46K
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 09:07
To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org'
Subject: RE: [U2] Unidata logging of BASIC Runtime errors

How about some other hashing algorithms like Universe has. I have some
files
that have compound keys, where the separator is a '#' and the hashing is
awful. This is what GROUP.STAT looks like:

File = AUTHORIZATION modulo=529314 hash type=0 blocksize=16384
Split/Merge type = KEYDATA
Grp# Bytes  Records
  0   770 1
  1 1158318
  2 0 0
  3 1210922
  4 0 0
  5  964717
  6 0 0
  7 1221520
  8 0 0
  9 1033819
 10 0 0
 11 1077619
 12 0 0
 13 1028118
 14 0 0
 15 1047119
 16 0 0
 17 1211522
 18 0 0
 19 1081219

I have experimented with blocksize, KEYONLY, HASHTYPE of 1 and this was the
best I could do. I am sure that if I brought this file over to Universe, I
could find an algorithm that could handle this compound key a lot better.
If
you need sample data for files that don't hash well, I have some good
examples besides this one. The developers seem to love intelligent keys,
and
sometimes what they come up with does not hash worth a damn. - Rod


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So - we are starting our planning cycle for the next release of UniData
now.
Is this something that there is a ground-swell of support for?
If so - what would it look like?

All or nothing switch? UDT.OPTIONS?  udtconfig setting? environment
variable? All users? Just selected users?
New log name - eg unibasic.errlog vs udt.errlog?
Some limit to the number logged before shutting it off? (concern about log
size and filling disk?)
ALL UniBasic run-time errors or warnings logged - regardless of fatality?
Just some class of errors? Is so - how would you define the ones you want
logged?

Collect your thoughts and funnel them thru the U2UG Better and Better
committee...
That is likely a better way than flooding this list. Just my
recommendation.


Wally Terhune

RE: Fw: [U2] Unidata logging of BASIC Runtime errors {Unclassified}

2006-05-11 Thread HENDERSON MIKE, MR
Thanks, Jim

That's brilliant ... Except it doesn't work in Transaction State because
you can't do a DOS /c ..., you get a 'Verb DOS illegal when a
transaction is active' error.  Darn, it would have been really useful
otherwise.
That's why we need a UV-supported method.

But actually, if you're on UV 10.1 you can use the new GCI function
UVRunCommand [see Issue Number 5616 in the Release Notes] even in
transaction State.
Gee, another reason to upgrade! :-) 


Mike

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{Unclassified}
 
 Well, for Windows platforms, you can do something like this 
 (this is from ECL, but with a tiny bit of code...):
 
 :! eventcreate /t information /id 999 /l System /so MyModule  /d
Error Test
 
 /t = ERROR | WARNING | INFORMATION
 /id = Event ID
 /l (lowercase L) = APPLICATION OR SYSTEM /so = SourceName 
 (any text, but most likely it's the offending program name) 
 /d = Description
 
 There are many other options (you can even specify a 
 different computer to send the event information to).
 
 Regards,
 
 Jim
 
 
 [snip]
 
 Yes, Yes, YES!
 CALL OSEventLog(Category, Type, EventID, DescriptionText)
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Re: Fw: [U2] Unidata logging of BASIC Runtime errors {Unclassified}

2006-05-11 Thread Craig Bennett

Mike,

But actually, if you're on UV 10.1 you can use the new GCI function
UVRunCommand [see Issue Number 5616 in the Release Notes] even in
transaction State.
Gee, another reason to upgrade! :-) 
  

Or you could call the windows api functions directly from GCI.
I'd find you the reference in O'Reilly but my Safari tokens for the 
month are all used up.


Either way if its trivial using GCI it can't be that hard to build into 
U2 itself.


Craig
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Re: [U2] Unidata logging of BASIC Runtime errors

2006-05-10 Thread David Tod Sigafoos
Bill,

of course the flip side is .. why request something that you know you
aren't going to get.

Ah .. Unidata .. the ugly stepchild G

Wednesday, May 10, 2006, 3:07:05 PM, you wrote:

BH Dave:

BH UniData does not have logging for BASIC runtime errors (IBM got back with me
BH on this).  There aren't enough requests for this feature to include it in
BH UniData.  :-(



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RE: [U2] Unidata logging of BASIC Runtime errors

2006-05-10 Thread Bill Haskett
Wally:

Aren't options great?  :-)

Bill Haskett
Advantos Systems, Inc.
www.advantos.net
(760)944-5570 (CA)
(360)923-4838 (WA)  

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 Well, we added file open error logging at one point and upset 
 a lot of folks - until we made it optional (which was the 
 right thing to do...)  :-(
 
 Wally Terhune
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 IBM Information Management
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 UniData does not have logging for BASIC runtime errors (IBM 
 got back with me on this).  There aren't enough requests for 
 this feature to include it in UniData.  :-(
 
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Fw: [U2] Unidata logging of BASIC Runtime errors

2006-05-10 Thread Wally Terhune
So - we are starting our planning cycle for the next release of UniData
now.
Is this something that there is a ground-swell of support for?
If so - what would it look like?

All or nothing switch? UDT.OPTIONS?  udtconfig setting? environment
variable? All users? Just selected users?
New log name - eg unibasic.errlog vs udt.errlog?
Some limit to the number logged before shutting it off? (concern about log
size and filling disk?)
ALL UniBasic run-time errors or warnings logged - regardless of fatality?
Just some class of errors? Is so - how would you define the ones you want
logged?

Collect your thoughts and funnel them thru the U2UG Better and Better
committee...
That is likely a better way than flooding this list. Just my
recommendation.


Wally Terhune
U2 Support Architect
IBM Information Management
4700 South Syracuse Street, Denver, CO   80237
Tel:  303.773.7969
Fax: 303.773.5915
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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UniData does not have logging for BASIC runtime errors (IBM got back with
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UniData.  :-(

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Re: Fw: [U2] Unidata logging of BASIC Runtime errors

2006-05-10 Thread Craig Bennett

Wally,

Collect your thoughts and funnel them thru the U2UG Better and Better
committee...
That is likely a better way than flooding this list. Just my
recommendation.
  


As a UV user I don't mind what happens to UniData; but wouldn't it be 
great if UV and UD logged to syslog (every platform except windows) or 
the windows error logs?
All of a sudden monitoring U2 errors is just like any other installed 
program -- sysadmins feel good, logs get rotated and archived in a 
standard way. And everyone knows where to look even if they haven't read 
a U2 manual.


Surely this couldn't be that much harder than implementing your own 
logging system?


For bonus points expose the system logging functionality into U2 itself 
so that application writers can also write to the system logs where this 
is appropriate.




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RE: Fw: [U2] Unidata logging of BASIC Runtime errors

2006-05-10 Thread Ross Ferris
Coming from a D3 background, one of the things I REALLY MISS is the
RUNTIME-ERRORS file.

If a process has an error in basic runtime, an error is logged. This is
especially useful for phantom jobs, or tracking problems onsite when no
one saw anything funny onscreen - yet we have a log of it!

Ross Ferris
Stamina Software
Visage  Better by Design!

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Wally,
 Collect your thoughts and funnel them thru the U2UG Better and Better
 committee...
 That is likely a better way than flooding this list. Just my
 recommendation.


As a UV user I don't mind what happens to UniData; but wouldn't it be
great if UV and UD logged to syslog (every platform except windows) or
the windows error logs?
All of a sudden monitoring U2 errors is just like any other installed
program -- sysadmins feel good, logs get rotated and archived in a
standard way. And everyone knows where to look even if they haven't
read
a U2 manual.

Surely this couldn't be that much harder than implementing your own
logging system?

For bonus points expose the system logging functionality into U2 itself
so that application writers can also write to the system logs where
this
is appropriate.



Craig
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RE: [U2] Unidata logging of BASIC Runtime errors {Unclassified}

2006-05-10 Thread HENDERSON MIKE, MR
Wally,

As a current UniVerse user, I am perhaps a little biased, but ... 

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 Subject: Fw: [U2] UniData logging of BASIC Runtime errors
 
 So - we are starting our planning cycle for the next release 
 of UniData now.
 Is this something that there is a ground-swell of support for?
 If so - what would it look like?

Exactly like the UniVerse one?
-   If there's no 'errlog' file, it doesn't log anything
-   The file is a rotating circular buffer of messages
i.e. it has room for x messages, and when it gets to x
it just wraps round to 1 again
-   A config option sets the value of x (UV default is 100)

 
 All or nothing switch? UDT.OPTIONS?  udtconfig setting? environment
 variable? All users? Just selected users?
 New log name - e.g. unibasic.errlog vs udt.errlog?
 Some limit to the number logged before shutting it off? 
 (concern about log size and filling disk?)
 ALL UniBasic run-time errors or warnings logged - regardless 
 of fatality?

UniVerse seems to log everything, which works for me!

Why not have two the products work the same, unless there's a really
good reason not to?

Just my $0.02
Mike

 Just some class of errors? Is so - how would you define the 
 ones you want logged?
 
 Collect your thoughts and funnel them thru the U2UG Better and Better
 committee...
 That is likely a better way than flooding this list. Just my
 recommendation.
 
 
 Wally Terhune
 U2 Support Architect
 IBM Information Management
 4700 South Syracuse Street, Denver, CO   80237
 Tel:  303.773.7969
 Fax: 303.773.5915
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RE: Fw: [U2] Unidata logging of BASIC Runtime errors {Unclassified}

2006-05-10 Thread HENDERSON MIKE, MR
Craig,

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[snip]

 wouldn't it be great if UV and UD logged to syslog (every platform
except 
 windows) or the windows error logs?
  windows application event logs
Yes, please, we'll have some of that 

[snip]

 For bonus points expose the system logging functionality into U2
itself 
 so that application writers can also write to the system logs where
this 
 is appropriate.

Yes, Yes, YES!
CALL OSEventLog(Category, Type, EventID, DescriptionText)

 
 
 
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Re: Fw: [U2] Unidata logging of BASIC Runtime errors {Unclassified}

2006-05-10 Thread Craig Bennett

Mike,

Yes, Yes, YES!
CALL OSEventLog(Category, Type, EventID, DescriptionText)
  


surely that one is easy using GCI? If you really want it
(excuse the unix version, can error logging from C be that much harder 
in windows?)


#include syslog.h

void OSEventLog(int priority, char* message){
syslog(priority, message);
}

If you wanted to get fancy you could even use openlog to specify an 
identifier, logging facility etc.


Come to think of it, I might suggest this one to the boss.

Craig
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