[U2] tape backups

2008-08-14 Thread rogu2
Our new machine has a DLT tape carousel system.   Since it should just be 
backing up aix data files, so long as we don't access the files during the 
backup, there shouldn't be any issues with that type of tape, right?

thanks
Roger
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RE: [U2] tape backups

2008-08-14 Thread Edward Brown
There's a dbpause  / dbresume command on unidata that looks like it
would make backups safer:

dbpause is a UniData system-level command that blocks most updates to
the database made in a UniData session. Any updates made from the
operating system level are not blocked. You can use this feature to
perform some tasks that normally require UniData to be stopped, such as
backing up your data.
When the dbpause command is issued, all current writes and transactions
complete before
UniData pauses. Updates are blocked until the system administrator
executes the dbresume command.



Edward

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Our new machine has a DLT tape carousel system.   Since it should just
be backing up aix data files, so long as we don't access the files
during the backup, there shouldn't be any issues with that type of tape,
right?

thanks
Roger
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RE: [U2] tape backups

2008-08-14 Thread Colin Alfke
We used these for years. No problems - except the tape loader itself... They
work well especially if you have a fast disk sub-system.

It's more the software that you are using and how it handles open files and
locking them. It's been too long since I've set one of these up on Aix but
in Windows some software won't backup open files (which the database may
hold open even if no one is actively using them).  The other problem is
the backup software locks the file at the OS level so the database can't
read the file and the program aborts.

Hth
Colin Alfke
Calgary Canada

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From: Roger

Our new machine has a DLT tape carousel system.   Since it should just be
backing up aix data files, so long as we don't access the files during the
backup, there shouldn't be any issues with that type of tape, right?

thanks
Roger
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Re: [U2] tape backups

2008-08-14 Thread Jeffrey Butera
quote who='Edward Brown' date='Thursday 14 August 2008'
 There's a dbpause  / dbresume command on unidata that looks like it
 would make backups safer.

If your system supports filesystem snapshots, a really effective means is to:

1) dbpause the database
2) take file system snapshot of database
3) dsresume the database
4) perform tape backup from snapshot
5) release the snapshot once backup completes

This typically results in very little downtime (as long as it takes to pefrom 
a snapshot of the filesystem) often 5-10 seconds or less.  Yes, you should 
wait a few seconds after dbpause to allow any pending writes to complete.

 dbpause is a UniData system-level command that blocks most updates to
 the database made in a UniData session. Any updates made from the
 operating system level are not blocked. You can use this feature to
 perform some tasks that normally require UniData to be stopped, such as
 backing up your data.
 When the dbpause command is issued, all current writes and transactions
 complete before
 UniData pauses. Updates are blocked until the system administrator
 executes the dbresume command.

 Edward

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