RE: [U2] .Net Provider for Unidata or Universe
I recommend against doing that, as it is not in my control. Be patient... our marketing department will announce its available as soon as it is possible. Regards, LeRoy F. Dreyfuss Advanced Technical Services - U2 Technology Analyst IBM U2 Data Management Solutions Tel: 303-672-1254 Fax: 303-294-4832 Mobile: 720-341-4317 External email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.ibm.com/software/data/u2/support www.ibm.com/software/data/u2/support - Open, Query, Update, Search - Online! Don't miss out on the IBM DB2 Information Management Technical Conference September 19-24, 2004 - Las Vegas, NV Jeff Ritchie [EMAIL PROTECTED] u To Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc stserver.u2ug.org Subject RE: [U2] .Net Provider for Unidata 06/16/2004 08:45 or Universe PM Please respond to u2-users Tony, IBM's .net integration is real soon now. We are talking in terms of a few weeks, not months. To speed this up further we should email LeRoy each day asking is it here yet! Cheers. -Original Message- From: Tony Gravagno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 17 June 2004 11:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [U2] .Net Provider for Unidata or Universe George Smith wrote: As I have told you before I am not interested in Raining Data and I for one wish you would stop your touting. My posting did have a little RDC and a smiley but since you'd like to approach this more seriously... I make my recommendations based on my sense of good business, not idle touting. The touting and smiles just decorate my business recommendations, even though I stand to gain absolutely nothing from the commentary. With the thousands of postings to this forum George, it's tough to remember who's p.o'd at who, and who likes or doesn't like a given product. When I see a question, I post an answer if I have one. Going back through my archive I now see you've lost about 6 months of development time asking the same question a few times with no suitable answer, and waiting for some other solution to come by. In that same time I've seen others in your position develop and deploy their solutions using the tools that are available. The song says if you can't be with the one you love, honey, love the one you're with. In the business world when we don't move fast enough we lose opportunities, so similarly, it's often best to use the tools that are available now rather than waiting for something else. I don't know what your priorities are, but when I see you've gone so long without a solution I figured it was time for a reminder so that you could re-weigh those options for yourself. FWIW, you don't need third-party tools to connect into your MV environments. The tools are created and sold to fill a void where developers don't want to develop their own. There's nothing more magical or high quality about provided tools than DIY solutions, except that you don't have to maintain them yourself. The other side of that coin is that you _can't_ maintain these other tools on your own, so you may be better off writing your own tools, which may cost much less in the long run than buying, even if you need to contract someone to write the tools for you. I think the reason you're waiting for UO.NET is that you've found the other connectivity libraries to be inadequate, but you're hoping that someone will still provide a free or low-cost alternative. Many people here hate those libs and others love them, to each his/her own. But if IBM can't get the existing libraries to work for you now, then it's unlikely they're going to come up with something new that will change that in the near time-frame. Sure we can hope and trust, but it's going to take IBM time to develop, beta, and deploy a new library, and then there is the initial bleeding edge v1.0 honeymoon/pain that developers have to tolerate, so you aren't looking at a real solution for quite some time yet. With all this in mind I thought you might be more inclined to try a proven solution that's available immediately, rather than waiting for ... whatever. Good Luck. Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] Frequently hating RD and other companies as much as anyone... --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of graycol.gif] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of pic19533.gif] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had
RE: [U2] .Net Provider for Unidata or Universe
Tony, IBM's .net integration is real soon now. We are talking in terms of a few weeks, not months. To speed this up further we should email LeRoy each day asking is it here yet! Cheers. -Original Message- From: Tony Gravagno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 17 June 2004 11:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [U2] .Net Provider for Unidata or Universe George Smith wrote: As I have told you before I am not interested in Raining Data and I for one wish you would stop your touting. My posting did have a little RDC and a smiley but since you'd like to approach this more seriously... I make my recommendations based on my sense of good business, not idle touting. The touting and smiles just decorate my business recommendations, even though I stand to gain absolutely nothing from the commentary. With the thousands of postings to this forum George, it's tough to remember who's p.o'd at who, and who likes or doesn't like a given product. When I see a question, I post an answer if I have one. Going back through my archive I now see you've lost about 6 months of development time asking the same question a few times with no suitable answer, and waiting for some other solution to come by. In that same time I've seen others in your position develop and deploy their solutions using the tools that are available. The song says if you can't be with the one you love, honey, love the one you're with. In the business world when we don't move fast enough we lose opportunities, so similarly, it's often best to use the tools that are available now rather than waiting for something else. I don't know what your priorities are, but when I see you've gone so long without a solution I figured it was time for a reminder so that you could re-weigh those options for yourself. FWIW, you don't need third-party tools to connect into your MV environments. The tools are created and sold to fill a void where developers don't want to develop their own. There's nothing more magical or high quality about provided tools than DIY solutions, except that you don't have to maintain them yourself. The other side of that coin is that you _can't_ maintain these other tools on your own, so you may be better off writing your own tools, which may cost much less in the long run than buying, even if you need to contract someone to write the tools for you. I think the reason you're waiting for UO.NET is that you've found the other connectivity libraries to be inadequate, but you're hoping that someone will still provide a free or low-cost alternative. Many people here hate those libs and others love them, to each his/her own. But if IBM can't get the existing libraries to work for you now, then it's unlikely they're going to come up with something new that will change that in the near time-frame. Sure we can hope and trust, but it's going to take IBM time to develop, beta, and deploy a new library, and then there is the initial bleeding edge v1.0 honeymoon/pain that developers have to tolerate, so you aren't looking at a real solution for quite some time yet. With all this in mind I thought you might be more inclined to try a proven solution that's available immediately, rather than waiting for ... whatever. Good Luck. Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] Frequently hating RD and other companies as much as anyone... --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] .Net Provider for Unidata or Universe
Not ALL marketing costs dollars. For example, how many dollars are pumped into Visage marketing on cdp and the u2-users lists? Additionally, it really is amazing the fact that U2UG has a domain name (u2ug.org) and a web site and a host site for u2-users and a zero dollar budget. There are generous people within our midst. So, we'll be calling you then, K? smiles. --dawn Dawn M. Wolthuis Tincat Group, Inc. www.tincat-group.com Take and give some delight today. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ross Ferris Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 10:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [U2] .Net Provider for Unidata or Universe Marketing costs $. Unless U2UG is going to start charging membership fees, I don't see where this will be possible In terms of Cache size, IIRC they quote figures around 4,000,000 seats, so I would think they are on a par with U2 Ross Ferris Stamina Software Visage an Evolution in Software Development -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dawn M. Wolthuis Sent: Friday, 18 June 2004 12:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [U2] .Net Provider for Unidata or Universe Cache' blankets the Java market with ads as well. But I'd be very curious how their market compares to the U2 market. There are other MUMPs implementations, but not as many as PICK. I don't know if they are bigger than U2 -- any guesses? I have no clue whether their marketing strategy is working to grow them significantly beyond their initial MUMPs base, but I'm definitely curious. In preparing the agenda for the Sept 19 meeting of the U2UG in Las Vegas (to which everyone is invited!) we are planning to have significant discussions about the topic of marketing U2 and the underlying database. Even if IBM does not do that type of marketing, potentially the U2UG could do some marketing in the future. Just a thought -- all ideas are welcome. Cheers! --dawn Dawn M. Wolthuis Tincat Group, Inc. www.tincat-group.com Take and give some delight today. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.707 / Virus Database: 463 - Release Date: 15/06/2004 --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: Unclassified RE: [U2] .Net Provider for Unidata or Universe
Will one need to use UO.NET with 6.1 or will it also work with 5.x and 6.0? -Original Message- From: Leroy Dreyfuss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 8:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Unclassified RE: [U2] .Net Provider for Unidata or Universe Folks, Hang in there.. UO.NET for U2 will be announced VERY soon! Regards, LeRoy F. Dreyfuss Advanced Technical Services - U2 Technology Analyst IBM U2 Data Management Solutions Tel: 303-672-1254 Fax: 303-294-4832 Mobile: 720-341-4317 External email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.ibm.com/software/data/u2/support www.ibm.com/software/data/u2/support - Open, Query, Update, Search - Online! Don't miss out on the IBM DB2 Information Management Technical Conference September 19-24, 2004 - Las Vegas, NV trim --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: Unclassified RE: [U2] .Net Provider for Unidata or Universe
LeRoy, Thanks for update. Glad I heard you through the noise. George R Smith Programmer/Analyst 479.684.3382 direct 479.684.3403 fax www.budgetext.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The materials in this electronic mail transmission (including all attachments) are private and confidential and are the property of the sender. The information contained in the material is privileged and is intended only for the use of the named addressee(s). If you are not the intended addressee, be advised that any unauthorized disclosure, copying, distribution or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this material is strictly prohibited. If you received this electronic mail message in error, please immediately notify the sender by telephone at 888-869-0366 or send an electronic message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and thereafter, destroy the electronic message immediately. -Original Message- From: Leroy Dreyfuss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 7:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Unclassified RE: [U2] .Net Provider for Unidata or Universe Folks, Hang in there.. UO.NET for U2 will be announced VERY soon! Regards, LeRoy F. Dreyfuss Advanced Technical Services - U2 Technology Analyst IBM U2 Data Management Solutions Tel: 303-672-1254 Fax: 303-294-4832 Mobile: 720-341-4317 External email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.ibm.com/software/data/u2/support www.ibm.com/software/data/u2/support - Open, Query, Update, Search - Online! Don't miss out on the IBM DB2 Information Management Technical Conference September 19-24, 2004 - Las Vegas, NV HENDERSON MICHAEL MR MICHAEL.HENDERSO To [EMAIL PROTECTED]'[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc stserver.u2ug.org Subject Unclassified RE: [U2] .Net Provider 06/16/2004 04:25 for Unidata or Universe PM Please respond to u2-users Tony, Please can you substantiate the statement PDP now has the sanctions of Microsoft? It's not that I doubt your statement, but if I were to do like you say and tell management that you're running Microsoft-approved .NET communications, I'd like to be able to answer the inevitable 'prove it!' come-back with something a little more official than 'Tony Gravagno said so' ;-) Thanks Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno Sent: Thursday, 17 June 2004 09:34 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [U2] .Net Provider for Unidata or Universe [snip] PDP now has the sanctions of Microsoft, and it can't hurt to tell management that you're running Microsoft-approved .NET communications with your IBM-approved database. [snip] The information contained in this Internet Email message is intended for the addressee only and may contain privileged information, but not necessarily the official views or opinions of the New Zealand Defence Force. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, copy or distribute this message or the information in it. If you have received this message in error, please Email or telephone the sender immediately. --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of graycol.gif] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of pic23089.gif] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of ecblank.gif] --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] .Net Provider for Unidata or Universe
AND YET, I think one of the strengths of the Cache camp is that they basically rolled a large number of Mumps implementations into a single, unified product, got rid of the fractional infighting (please don't pick me up on factional - our niche is less than whole), and now I see their ads every month in MSDN Magazine Ross Ferris Stamina Software Visage an Evolution in Software Development -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dawn M. Wolthuis Sent: Thursday, 17 June 2004 1:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [U2] .Net Provider for Unidata or Universe snip If there were a conference where all U2 customers, VARs, and third-parties were present, there would be many competitors in the room (jBASE, onGroup, and Raining Data, for example) and the more of that there is, the healthier our branch of the industry is, I would think. Just my .02. Cheers! -- dawn Dawn M. Wolthuis Tincat Group, Inc. www.tincat-group.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.707 / Virus Database: 463 - Release Date: 15/06/2004 --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] .Net Provider for Unidata or Universe
I've heard of MUMPS and interviewed at a hospital were that was used. Was that written in U2 ... Mumps was a DEC implementation? Garry Smith Dir. Info Systems Charles McMurray Company V# 559-292-5782 F# 559-346-6169 -Original Message- From: Ross Ferris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 5:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [U2] .Net Provider for Unidata or Universe AND YET, I think one of the strengths of the Cache camp is that they basically rolled a large number of Mumps implementations into a single, unified product, got rid of the fractional infighting (please don't pick me up on factional - our niche is less than whole), and now I see their ads every month in MSDN Magazine Ross Ferris Stamina Software Visage an Evolution in Software Development -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dawn M. Wolthuis Sent: Thursday, 17 June 2004 1:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [U2] .Net Provider for Unidata or Universe snip If there were a conference where all U2 customers, VARs, and third-parties were present, there would be many competitors in the room (jBASE, onGroup, and Raining Data, for example) and the more of that there is, the healthier our branch of the industry is, I would think. Just my .02. Cheers! -- dawn Dawn M. Wolthuis Tincat Group, Inc. www.tincat-group.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.707 / Virus Database: 463 - Release Date: 15/06/2004 --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] .Net Provider for Unidata or Universe
I've heard of MUMPS and interviewed at a hospital were that was used. Was that written in U2 ... Mumps was a DEC implementation? My understanding is that MUMPS/Cache is somehow related to Revelation. I don't know if that's true or not, just one of those things a long-time MV programmer mentioned the other day... Tom Firl Columbia Ultimate --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] .Net Provider for Unidata or Universe
Dawn M. Wolthuis wrote: Cache' blankets the Java market with ads as well... I have no clue whether their marketing strategy is working to grow them significantly beyond their initial MUMPs base, but I'm definitely curious. Dawn, I've had loose discussions with MV VARs about Cache' for quite a while now, and in brief, with InterSystems themselves. If you think about it, they've been doing page-sized ads in all major developer and business magazines for a couple years now. No one has such deep pockets that they will continue to throw away that kind of money on a weekly basis. I can't verify that their marketing has been fiscally successful but I think we can reasonably make that deduction. Whether they're successful in recouping their investments or not, I bow in awe to a well executed marketing campaign. IBM should take note: - Here is a small company with a factionalized developer/reseller base like MV. - They don't have the wealth of applications that we do. - They are faced with the Mumps stigma just as we are saddled with the Pick stigma. - They don't talk applications - they are looking for new developers. Hmmm, does ANYONE in the MV market really look to bring in new developers from outside? - They are promoting multidimensionality, making it acceptable again. - They are doing marketing for a non-relational DBMS, and by various definitions they are very successful. It looks like InterSystems is charging up the hill for battle without getting shot. If IBM doesn't want to lead this market, they would do well to follow the lead that has already been started. IBM has shown that they aren't stuck on being innovators, and not afraid to shift gears and embrace a worthy cause, considering their adoption of Java and Linux. In this case, IBM owns the technology, unlike Java and Linux - why not pursue opportunities at this ideal time? There is another significant dynamic here that all MV people should take a note of from a competitive standpoint. Oracle, SAP, Microsoft, and InterSystems are targeting the same small business market that has been the bread and butter of the MV world for a generation. With every small success that any of these companies make, some MV VAR and their DBMS vendor will incur a loss. The large companies have announced firm strategies for targeting this space, including buying entire software companies just for the purpose. You guys have a bulls-eye on your collective head. Unless this market acts to compete with this invasion, we're all going to be losing a lot very soon. To further hammer this home, InterSystems now claims to have software to migrate Pick data and software to Cache'. Whether it's a 50% or a 100% migration it doesn't matter. The point is that they see value in this market and are actively taking steps to approach migrations. In case there is any misunderstanding, I'll summarize for IBM: Your competition is marketing and selling business applications directly to your customers and prospect base - and you're letting them. Unless you market the technologies and applications that are already under your umbrella, you will lose a lot of money. I can provide specifics along with strategies for addressing the situation to anyone who has serious interest - through a consulting engagement of course. In preparing the agenda for the Sept 19 meeting of the U2UG in Las Vegas (to which everyone is invited!) we are planning to have significant discussions about the topic of marketing U2 and the underlying database. Even if IBM does not do that type of marketing, potentially the U2UG could do some marketing in the future. Just a thought -- all ideas are welcome. Cheers! --dawn Looks like the time is ripe for such a meeting, Dawn... Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] .Net Provider for Unidata or Universe
I think U2 is about 4.5Million seats and when you add other PICK environments it comes to over 6 Million seats. With IBM U2 Marketing they cannot advertise outside the DB2 brand. The U2UG can, to some extent. What the User Group can do strategically is what Dawn is talking about, whether it is media awareness directly by the group, or by differentiating U2 in a manner that IBM sees a benefit in advertising it differently such as lotus. Here is the chance for Users to make a difference Regards David Jordan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ross Ferris Sent: Friday, 18 June 2004 1:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [U2] .Net Provider for Unidata or Universe Marketing costs $. Unless U2UG is going to start charging membership fees, I don't see where this will be possible In terms of Cache size, IIRC they quote figures around 4,000,000 seats, so I would think they are on a par with U2 Ross Ferris Stamina Software Visage an Evolution in Software Development -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dawn M. Wolthuis Sent: Friday, 18 June 2004 12:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [U2] .Net Provider for Unidata or Universe Cache' blankets the Java market with ads as well. But I'd be very curious how their market compares to the U2 market. There are other MUMPs implementations, but not as many as PICK. I don't know if they are bigger than U2 -- any guesses? I have no clue whether their marketing strategy is working to grow them significantly beyond their initial MUMPs base, but I'm definitely curious. In preparing the agenda for the Sept 19 meeting of the U2UG in Las Vegas (to which everyone is invited!) we are planning to have significant discussions about the topic of marketing U2 and the underlying database. Even if IBM does not do that type of marketing, potentially the U2UG could do some marketing in the future. Just a thought -- all ideas are welcome. Cheers! --dawn Dawn M. Wolthuis Tincat Group, Inc. www.tincat-group.com Take and give some delight today. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.707 / Virus Database: 463 - Release Date: 15/06/2004 --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] .Net Provider for Unidata or Universe
As I have told you before I am not interested in Raining Data and I for one wish you would stop your touting. George R Smith Programmer/Analyst 479.684.3382 direct 479.684.3403 fax www.budgetext.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The materials in this electronic mail transmission (including all attachments) are private and confidential and are the property of the sender. The information contained in the material is privileged and is intended only for the use of the named addressee(s). If you are not the intended addressee, be advised that any unauthorized disclosure, copying, distribution or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this material is strictly prohibited. If you received this electronic mail message in error, please immediately notify the sender by telephone at 888-869-0366 or send an electronic message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and thereafter, destroy the electronic message immediately. -Original Message- From: Tony Gravagno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 4:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [U2] .Net Provider for Unidata or Universe -Original Message- George Smith wrote Two or three months ago I saw some post that said the .NET provider for U2 would be out in June. Anyone know if it has been released. Yeah, it's called the Pick Data Provider .NET from Raining Data. It's very popular with larger U2 sites. RDC (running, ducking, and covering):) I know, you're wondering about UO.NET from IBM... Sorry, no clue. Ya know, George, you guys left RD for good business reasons, but PDP.NET is seriously good technology. Don't write it off because you don't like the company, although I understand that's a significant factor when buying new components. PDP now has the sanctions of Microsoft, and it can't hurt to tell management that you're running Microsoft-approved .NET communications with your IBM-approved database. Tony Gravagno ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Technical Editor, C#Builder Kick Start (SAMS) Author, Web Services and .NET articles (Spectrum Magazine) Technical Reviewer for assorted .NET magazine articles Former DBMS Product Manager (Raining Data) Nebula RD provides advanced components and services to MV developers using many mainstream technologies. --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
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Tony, Please can you substantiate the statement PDP now has the sanctions of Microsoft? It's not that I doubt your statement, but if I were to do like you say and tell management that you're running Microsoft-approved .NET communications, I'd like to be able to answer the inevitable 'prove it!' come-back with something a little more official than 'Tony Gravagno said so' ;-) Thanks Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno Sent: Thursday, 17 June 2004 09:34 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [U2] .Net Provider for Unidata or Universe [snip] PDP now has the sanctions of Microsoft, and it can't hurt to tell management that you're running Microsoft-approved .NET communications with your IBM-approved database. [snip] The information contained in this Internet Email message is intended for the addressee only and may contain privileged information, but not necessarily the official views or opinions of the New Zealand Defence Force. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, copy or distribute this message or the information in it. If you have received this message in error, please Email or telephone the sender immediately. --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: Unclassified RE: [U2] .Net Provider for Unidata or Universe
Folks, Hang in there.. UO.NET for U2 will be announced VERY soon! Regards, LeRoy F. Dreyfuss Advanced Technical Services - U2 Technology Analyst IBM U2 Data Management Solutions Tel: 303-672-1254 Fax: 303-294-4832 Mobile: 720-341-4317 External email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.ibm.com/software/data/u2/support www.ibm.com/software/data/u2/support - Open, Query, Update, Search - Online! Don't miss out on the IBM DB2 Information Management Technical Conference September 19-24, 2004 - Las Vegas, NV HENDERSON MICHAEL MR MICHAEL.HENDERSO To [EMAIL PROTECTED]'[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc stserver.u2ug.org Subject Unclassified RE: [U2] .Net Provider 06/16/2004 04:25 for Unidata or Universe PM Please respond to u2-users Tony, Please can you substantiate the statement PDP now has the sanctions of Microsoft? It's not that I doubt your statement, but if I were to do like you say and tell management that you're running Microsoft-approved .NET communications, I'd like to be able to answer the inevitable 'prove it!' come-back with something a little more official than 'Tony Gravagno said so' ;-) Thanks Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno Sent: Thursday, 17 June 2004 09:34 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [U2] .Net Provider for Unidata or Universe [snip] PDP now has the sanctions of Microsoft, and it can't hurt to tell management that you're running Microsoft-approved .NET communications with your IBM-approved database. [snip] The information contained in this Internet Email message is intended for the addressee only and may contain privileged information, but not necessarily the official views or opinions of the New Zealand Defence Force. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, copy or distribute this message or the information in it. If you have received this message in error, please Email or telephone the sender immediately. --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of graycol.gif] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of pic23089.gif] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of ecblank.gif] --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: Unclassified RE: [U2] .Net Provider for Unidata or Universe
How do I access a so-called entitled technical document on the IBM U2 support web site ? --- Leroy Dreyfuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, Hang in there.. UO.NET for U2 will be announced VERY soon! Regards, LeRoy F. Dreyfuss Advanced Technical Services - U2 Technology Analyst IBM U2 Data Management Solutions Tel: 303-672-1254 Fax: 303-294-4832 Mobile: 720-341-4317 External email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.ibm.com/software/data/u2/support www.ibm.com/software/data/u2/support - Open, Query, Update, Search - Online! Don't miss out on the IBM DB2 Information Management Technical Conference September 19-24, 2004 - Las Vegas, NV HENDERSON MICHAEL MR MICHAEL.HENDERSO To [EMAIL PROTECTED] '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc stserver.u2ug.org Subject Unclassified RE: [U2] .Net Provider 06/16/2004 04:25 for Unidata or Universe PM Please respond to u2-users Tony, Please can you substantiate the statement PDP now has the sanctions of Microsoft? It's not that I doubt your statement, but if I were to do like you say and tell management that you're running Microsoft-approved .NET communications, I'd like to be able to answer the inevitable 'prove it!' come-back with something a little more official than 'Tony Gravagno said so' ;-) Thanks Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno Sent: Thursday, 17 June 2004 09:34 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [U2] .Net Provider for Unidata or Universe [snip] PDP now has the sanctions of Microsoft, and it can't hurt to tell management that you're running Microsoft-approved .NET communications with your IBM-approved database. [snip] The information contained in this Internet Email message is intended for the addressee only and may contain privileged information, but not necessarily the official views or opinions of the New Zealand Defence Force. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, copy or distribute this message or the information in it. If you have received this message in error, please Email or telephone the sender immediately. --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of graycol.gif] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of pic23089.gif] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of ecblank.gif] --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: Unclassified RE: [U2] .Net Provider for Unidata or Universe
I would suggest calling your VAR (if you have one) or your facing IBM U2 support center. We can send you most documents when you request, depending upon their content. At some point between now and November, you will be able to access these documents without contacting us, but we are waiting for other IBM processes outside of U2 to be completed before we are permitted to grant access to our partners and end-users. Regards, LeRoy F. Dreyfuss Advanced Technical Services - U2 Technology Analyst IBM U2 Data Management Solutions Tel: 303-672-1254 Fax: 303-294-4832 Mobile: 720-341-4317 External email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.ibm.com/software/data/u2/support www.ibm.com/software/data/u2/support - Open, Query, Update, Search - Online! Don't miss out on the IBM DB2 Information Management Technical Conference September 19-24, 2004 - Las Vegas, NV Dave S [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com To Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc stserver.u2ug.org Subject Re: Unclassified RE: [U2] .Net 06/16/2004 08:28 Provider for Unidata or Universe PM Please respond to u2-users How do I access a so-called entitled technical document on the IBM U2 support web site ? --- Leroy Dreyfuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, Hang in there.. UO.NET for U2 will be announced VERY soon! Regards, LeRoy F. Dreyfuss Advanced Technical Services - U2 Technology Analyst IBM U2 Data Management Solutions Tel: 303-672-1254 Fax: 303-294-4832 Mobile: 720-341-4317 External email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.ibm.com/software/data/u2/support www.ibm.com/software/data/u2/support - Open, Query, Update, Search - Online! Don't miss out on the IBM DB2 Information Management Technical Conference September 19-24, 2004 - Las Vegas, NV HENDERSON MICHAEL MR MICHAEL.HENDERSO To [EMAIL PROTECTED] '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc stserver.u2ug.org Subject Unclassified RE: [U2] .Net Provider 06/16/2004 04:25 for Unidata or Universe PM Please respond to u2-users Tony, Please can you substantiate the statement PDP now has the sanctions of Microsoft? It's not that I doubt your statement, but if I were to do like you say and tell management that you're running Microsoft-approved .NET communications, I'd like to be able to answer the inevitable 'prove it!' come-back with something a little more official than 'Tony Gravagno said so' ;-) Thanks Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno Sent: Thursday, 17 June 2004 09:34 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [U2] .Net Provider for Unidata or Universe [snip] PDP now has the sanctions of Microsoft, and it can't hurt to tell management that you're running Microsoft-approved .NET communications with your IBM-approved database. [snip] The information contained in this Internet Email message is intended for the addressee only and may contain privileged information, but not necessarily the official views or opinions of the New Zealand Defence Force. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, copy or distribute this message or the information in it. If you have received this message in error, please Email or telephone the sender immediately. --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of graycol.gif] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of pic23089.gif] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of ecblank.gif] --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of graycol.gif] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of pic14833.gif] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of ecblank.gif] --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL
