Re: [U2] MVInternet Replacement
Pixius discontinued support in Dec. 2004 (still accepted payment this year though). Mike and Luke at Sierra-Bravo did write mvi about 6 years ago. We just cut over to Sierra-Bravo DBC last week. Mvi has been running for 6 year for us with no issues, but we wanted to get the extra functionality with the new version. Bob - Original Message - From: "Richard Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 10:46 AM Subject: RE: [U2] MVInternet Replacement Well, I did some checking. Yes the Pixius website is still up, but you can not find any mention of MVInternet from the main page. You can find information if you do a search. I placed a call to the main number and asked for information on MVI, but the person did not know what I was talking about. Their website currently only makes mention of custom programming services and web hosting. It looks like we can still get support, but the product is "end-of-life"d. Rich Taylor | Senior Programmer/Analyst| VERTIS 250 W. Pratt Street | Baltimore, MD 21201 P 410.361.8688 | F 410.528.0319 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.vertisinc.com Vertis is the premier provider of targeted advertising, media, and marketing services that drive consumers to marketers more effectively. "The more they complicate the plumbing the easier it is to stop up the drain" - Montgomery Scott NCC-1701 > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ross Ferris > Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 6:09 PM > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > Subject: RE: [U2] MVInternet Replacement > > FWIW the Pixius web site is still up ...? > > Our Visage product might be worth considering. It can be used in a > "dumbed down" mvInternet/FlashConnect manner if you don't mind getting > down into the trenches and playing with raw HTML & such. > > You can generate pages entirely from basic, and/or use templates created > with your web tool of choice and have Visage simply substitute data into > the form. You can also stitch multi pages together in a "web-part" type > manner which you can control/orchestrate with your own program. > > Of course the better (yes, I AM biased!) solution would be to use the > whole toolkit, and design your forms/applications with our designers & > wizards. (Using current "buzzwords" Visage applications use AJAX > technologies to provide a rich user interface delivered with thin client > technology) > > Like RedBack, and ANY other solution you may consider, there will need > to be changes to your existing applications to work with new "plumbing". > Assuming you move (if Pixius are "gone" this would appear prudent) part > of your decision should also include ease of maintenance into the > future. > > Send me an email, and/or drop by www.stamina.com.au if you would like > more information, or one of our test-drive CD's, which include a few > hours of multi-media training as well > > Regards, > > Ross Ferris > Stamina Software > Visage > Better by Design! > > > >-Original Message- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2- > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Squires > >Sent: Wednesday, 7 December 2005 6:14 AM > >To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > >Subject: RE: [U2] MVInternet Replacement > > > >Rex, > > > >It's my understanding that the company which supports MvInternet > (Pixius) > >is no longer in business. If anyone > >knows better please correct me. It's also my understanding that the > folks > >at Sierra Bravo are the > >original developers of MvInternet, but now have a product of their own, > i.e. > >SierraDBC. > > > > > >Andy > > > >On Tue, 6 Dec 2005, Rex Gozar wrote: > > > >> Andy, > >> > >> I'm trying to find out more about MvInternet -- have you decided that > it > >is > >> not suitable or desirable in your upgraded system? If so, why? What > are > >> your thoughts about MvInternet (both good and bad)? > >> > >> rex > >> --- > >> u2-users mailing list > >> u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > >> To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > >> > > > >| Andy Squires -- Systems Analyst > >| > >| Office of Information Technology -- American University > >| > >| (202) 885-2785 > >| > >--- > >u2-users mailing list > >u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > >To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > --- > u2-users mailing list > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] MVInternet Replacement
Well, I did some checking. Yes the Pixius website is still up, but you can not find any mention of MVInternet from the main page. You can find information if you do a search. I placed a call to the main number and asked for information on MVI, but the person did not know what I was talking about. Their website currently only makes mention of custom programming services and web hosting. It looks like we can still get support, but the product is "end-of-life"d. Rich Taylor | Senior Programmer/Analyst| VERTIS 250 W. Pratt Street | Baltimore, MD 21201 P 410.361.8688 | F 410.528.0319 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.vertisinc.com Vertis is the premier provider of targeted advertising, media, and marketing services that drive consumers to marketers more effectively. "The more they complicate the plumbing the easier it is to stop up the drain" - Montgomery Scott NCC-1701 > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ross Ferris > Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 6:09 PM > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > Subject: RE: [U2] MVInternet Replacement > > FWIW the Pixius web site is still up ...? > > Our Visage product might be worth considering. It can be used in a > "dumbed down" mvInternet/FlashConnect manner if you don't mind getting > down into the trenches and playing with raw HTML & such. > > You can generate pages entirely from basic, and/or use templates created > with your web tool of choice and have Visage simply substitute data into > the form. You can also stitch multi pages together in a "web-part" type > manner which you can control/orchestrate with your own program. > > Of course the better (yes, I AM biased!) solution would be to use the > whole toolkit, and design your forms/applications with our designers & > wizards. (Using current "buzzwords" Visage applications use AJAX > technologies to provide a rich user interface delivered with thin client > technology) > > Like RedBack, and ANY other solution you may consider, there will need > to be changes to your existing applications to work with new "plumbing". > Assuming you move (if Pixius are "gone" this would appear prudent) part > of your decision should also include ease of maintenance into the > future. > > Send me an email, and/or drop by www.stamina.com.au if you would like > more information, or one of our test-drive CD's, which include a few > hours of multi-media training as well > > Regards, > > Ross Ferris > Stamina Software > Visage > Better by Design! > > > >-Original Message- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2- > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Squires > >Sent: Wednesday, 7 December 2005 6:14 AM > >To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > >Subject: RE: [U2] MVInternet Replacement > > > >Rex, > > > >It's my understanding that the company which supports MvInternet > (Pixius) > >is no longer in business. If anyone > >knows better please correct me. It's also my understanding that the > folks > >at Sierra Bravo are the > >original developers of MvInternet, but now have a product of their own, > i.e. > >SierraDBC. > > > > > >Andy > > > >On Tue, 6 Dec 2005, Rex Gozar wrote: > > > >> Andy, > >> > >> I'm trying to find out more about MvInternet -- have you decided that > it > >is > >> not suitable or desirable in your upgraded system? If so, why? What > are > >> your thoughts about MvInternet (both good and bad)? > >> > >> rex > >> --- > >> u2-users mailing list > >> u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > >> To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > >> > > > >| Andy Squires -- Systems Analyst > >| > >| Office of Information Technology -- American University > >| > >| (202) 885-2785 > >| > >--- > >u2-users mailing list > >u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > >To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > --- > u2-users mailing list > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] MVInternet Replacement
FWIW the Pixius web site is still up ...? Our Visage product might be worth considering. It can be used in a "dumbed down" mvInternet/FlashConnect manner if you don't mind getting down into the trenches and playing with raw HTML & such. You can generate pages entirely from basic, and/or use templates created with your web tool of choice and have Visage simply substitute data into the form. You can also stitch multi pages together in a "web-part" type manner which you can control/orchestrate with your own program. Of course the better (yes, I AM biased!) solution would be to use the whole toolkit, and design your forms/applications with our designers & wizards. (Using current "buzzwords" Visage applications use AJAX technologies to provide a rich user interface delivered with thin client technology) Like RedBack, and ANY other solution you may consider, there will need to be changes to your existing applications to work with new "plumbing". Assuming you move (if Pixius are "gone" this would appear prudent) part of your decision should also include ease of maintenance into the future. Send me an email, and/or drop by www.stamina.com.au if you would like more information, or one of our test-drive CD's, which include a few hours of multi-media training as well Regards, Ross Ferris Stamina Software Visage > Better by Design! >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2- >[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Squires >Sent: Wednesday, 7 December 2005 6:14 AM >To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org >Subject: RE: [U2] MVInternet Replacement > >Rex, > >It's my understanding that the company which supports MvInternet (Pixius) >is no longer in business. If anyone >knows better please correct me. It's also my understanding that the folks >at Sierra Bravo are the >original developers of MvInternet, but now have a product of their own, i.e. >SierraDBC. > > >Andy > >On Tue, 6 Dec 2005, Rex Gozar wrote: > >> Andy, >> >> I'm trying to find out more about MvInternet -- have you decided that it >is >> not suitable or desirable in your upgraded system? If so, why? What are >> your thoughts about MvInternet (both good and bad)? >> >> rex >> --- >> u2-users mailing list >> u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org >> To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ >> > >| Andy Squires -- Systems Analyst >| >| Office of Information Technology -- American University >| >| (202) 885-2785 >| >--- >u2-users mailing list >u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org >To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] MVInternet Replacement
On 12/6/05, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wonder... does anyone know who holds the copyright on the MVInternet > code and docs? If they're not going to market it, ... Okay, maybe I should back up a step. IIRC at some point after we stopped using MVInternet, I heard that it was no longer available. Is that true? I remember it changing hands between Infinetivity and Pixius, but that's about it. -- Wendy --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] MVInternet Replacement
Rex, It's my understanding that the company which supports MvInternet (Pixius) is no longer in business. If anyone knows better please correct me. It's also my understanding that the folks at Sierra Bravo are the original developers of MvInternet, but now have a product of their own, i.e. SierraDBC. Andy On Tue, 6 Dec 2005, Rex Gozar wrote: > Andy, > > I'm trying to find out more about MvInternet -- have you decided that it is > not suitable or desirable in your upgraded system? If so, why? What are > your thoughts about MvInternet (both good and bad)? > > rex > --- > u2-users mailing list > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > | Andy Squires -- Systems Analyst | | Office of Information Technology -- American University | | (202) 885-2785| --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] MVInternet Replacement
Andy, We've been using Sierra's DB server for a few months now without a problem. It is faster than MVInternet. Very happy with it. Also works with PHP, .Net and so forth. Good product. Ted - Original Message - From: "Andy Squires" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] MVInternet Replacement Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 11:32:05 -0500 (EST) > > All, > > We are currently using MvInternet to bridge quite a few UniBasic > programs to the Web. We are about to > undertake a major upgrade of our application software, UniData and > server. We need to find a replacement > for Mv Internet. One we are looking into is Sierra Bravo's > SierraDBC. Does anyone have any experience > with this product? Opinion? I've also been wondering if Redback > is something we might want to look into. > It looks, though, that there would be quite a bit more work moving > our current programs to Redback, but > I don't know very much about it yet. > > Any other suggestions would be appreciated. > > We'll be moving to UniData 7.1. > > Thanks, > > Andy > > > > | Andy Squires -- Systems Analyst >| > | Office of Information Technology -- American University >| > | (202) 885-2785 >| > --- > u2-users mailing list > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] MVInternet Replacement
Andy, I'm trying to find out more about MvInternet -- have you decided that it is not suitable or desirable in your upgraded system? If so, why? What are your thoughts about MvInternet (both good and bad)? rex --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] MVInternet Replacement
On 12/6/05, Andy Squires <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We are currently using MvInternet to bridge quite a few UniBasic programs to > the Web. > We are about to undertake a major upgrade of our application > software, UniData > and server. We need to find a replacement We used to use MVInternet, but have moved on to Java and UOJ. I wonder... does anyone know who holds the copyright on the MVInternet code and docs? If they're not going to market it, could they be convinced to put it under an appropriate open source license and set it free? Just a thought. Unfortunately, I have no time to pursue it myself. -- Wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
