Re: [U2] Nabble (was Re: Documentation errors (was Get a grip))

2007-09-07 Thread Charles Barouch

Chuck,
   Unless you are already registered, Nabble replies bounce. I send out 
a lot of e-mails to peopl who get caught in the bounce filter because of 
this and invite them to join. We get a lot of our newer members that way.

   - Chuck
cstevenson wrote:

I did not know about access to u2-userss via Nabble until Clif's post.
So I just registered.
Supposedly it's more than history.  This is a test post via Nabble's reply 
page.
I'll click [Post Message] and see what happens . . .

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RE: [U2] Nabble (was Re: Documentation errors (was Get a grip))

2007-09-07 Thread Stevenson, Charles
Ok, it got posted 2x.  Don't know why, maybe something I did.  
I sent it 9:48 PDT. 2 copies are in my email inbox at 10:08.  A 20
minute lag,  but I think that lag is on u2-users list side.

It (or I?) also deleted a line from my reply that said something like
Clifton Oliver wrote:.  That was supposed to appear above As to
archive... line.

I like the view this message in context+URL line.
Clicking on the URL shows the message in-thread.  Cool.

Nabble seems to reconstruct threads, but I'll bet it has to guess at
exactly what is a response to exactly which previous post.

History seems to go back to Spring 2005.


So how does this work?  Who set it up?  I assume Nabble is a list
subscriber and gleans from it to build its own database?  But it has to
be more than that.  It posted my email to the list as from me.  I
registered as cstevenson so that appears instead of my email address
as will appear with this current post, which I am sending as email
outside nabble. Otherwise you can't really tell it came via Nabble
except for the useful URL tacked onto the bottom.


Chuck S

P.S.  I also just got an alert from Nabble that Chuck B had responded to
my post.
Said alert rated Chuck's response with 3 Stars(!)  gave me a Nabble url
to it.



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Subject: [U2] Nabble (was Re: Documentation errors (was Get a grip))

I did not know about access to u2-userss via Nabble until Clif's post.
So I just registered.
Supposedly it's more than history.  This is a test post via Nabble's
reply
page.
I'll click [Post Message] and see what happens . . .



As to archive indexes, I've found the archive at Nabble to be fairly
good, although there are things I know are there that it misses. Try

http://www.nabble.com/U2---Users-f801.html

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RE: [U2] Nabble (was Re: Documentation errors (was Get a grip))

2007-09-07 Thread Stevenson, Charles
From: Charles Barouch
 Unless you are already registered, Nabble replies bounce. I send out a
lot
 of e-mails to peopl who get caught in the bounce filter because of
this and
 invite them to join. We get a lot of our newer members that way.

That means people know about the forum via Nabble and there is probably
a population that prefers that web-user interface over email.  This is
good.

Chuck, is this the source of some of those messages you sometimes post
on behalf of non-list-members?

Maybe we need an option to subscribe, but not receive either digest or
individual posts,  but that would allow people to post via Nabble. 

I'm still not sure how we got in bed with Nabble, or rather, how they
crawled in bed with us.  What are they doing under the covers!  Hey, who
else are we sleeping with?  Google?  Yahoo?

Chuck S
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RE: [U2] Nabble (was Re: Documentation errors (was Get a grip))

2007-09-07 Thread karlp
quote who=Stevenson, Charles
 From: Charles Barouch
 Unless you are already registered, Nabble replies bounce. I send out a
 lot
 of e-mails to peopl who get caught in the bounce filter because of
 this and
 invite them to join. We get a lot of our newer members that way.

 That means people know about the forum via Nabble and there is probably
 a population that prefers that web-user interface over email.  This is
 good.

 Chuck, is this the source of some of those messages you sometimes post
 on behalf of non-list-members?

 Maybe we need an option to subscribe, but not receive either digest or
 individual posts,  but that would allow people to post via Nabble.

With Majordomo (we are still using it, aren't we?) there's a 'restrict'
post option, which doesn't get emails, but which is allowed to post. The
format in the CONFIG file is:

restrict_post =  u2-uses:u2-users-digest:restrictedlist

I don't know if that's a viable option, but on my server, I put my work
email address in the restrictedlist file so I can post to my wife's groups
in an emergency, like when my home email address is down...

Just a thought?

Karl


 I'm still not sure how we got in bed with Nabble, or rather, how they
 crawled in bed with us.  What are they doing under the covers!  Hey, who
 else are we sleeping with?  Google?  Yahoo?

 Chuck S
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RE: [U2] Nabble (was Re: Documentation errors (was Get a grip))

2007-09-07 Thread Larry Hiscock
You CAN, however, subscribe to the -digest list, and still post to the
regular list from Nabble.

Larry Hiscock
Moderator 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Barouch
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 11:06 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Nabble (was Re: Documentation errors (was Get a grip))

Chuck,
Unless you are already registered, Nabble replies bounce. I send out a
lot of e-mails to peopl who get caught in the bounce filter because of this
and invite them to join. We get a lot of our newer members that way.
- Chuck
cstevenson wrote:
 I did not know about access to u2-userss via Nabble until Clif's post.
 So I just registered.
 Supposedly it's more than history.  This is a test post via Nabble's
reply page.
 I'll click [Post Message] and see what happens . . .
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Re: [U2] Nabble (was Re: Documentation errors (was Get a grip))

2007-09-07 Thread Charles Barouch

Chuck,
  Yes. I often repost for Nabble and GMane users. I also post a lot for 
subscribed users who forget which e-mail name has subscription rights. 
Occasionally, people send to 'List Owner' instead of sending to the 
lists, so I push those as well.
  As to how we got into bed with them, since our rules don't prohibit 
what they do, they took it on themselves to re-post us. both groups post 
*a lot* of other lists in addition to ours.


- Chuck
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