Re: [Fwd: Re: [U2] RedHat, Universe, unlocking]

2006-03-09 Thread John Hester

John Godzina wrote:
Hrm ... I dunno ... I installed universe and specified using uvadm as 
the admin user.  My perms on list_readu are different:
-rwxr-x--x  1 root uvadm 1289340 May 10  2005 
/usr/local/Universe/ibm/bin/list_readu


uvadm belongs to:
uid=600(uvadm) gid=600(uvadm) groups=600(uvadm) 
context=user_u:system_r:unconfined_t

 which implies I _should_ be able to execute this, but I always get
Insufficient privileges to perform lock maintenance.


I don't have any experience with the SE Linux security settings, but 
I'll bet chmod u+s list_readu would allow you to do lock maintenance. 
I'm not sure why there's a difference in permission settings on 
different systems though.  I've got a defunct IRIX box that was running 
UV 9.6.2.2 installed with root as admin with these suid enabled binaries:


-rwsr-x--x1 root daemon1991532 Aug 27  2001 clean
-rwsr-x--x1 root daemon2029676 Aug 27  2001 list_readu
-rwsr-x--x1 root daemon2006708 Aug 27  2001 sp.edit
-rwsr-x--x1 root daemon1991940 Aug 27  2001 upduvtrans
-rwsr-x--x1 root daemon  80008 Aug 27  2001 uv
-rwsr-x--x1 root daemon4849652 Aug 27  2001 uvadmsh
-rwsr-x--x2 root daemon5041216 Aug 27  2001 uvbackup
-rwsr-x--x1 root daemon2038864 Aug 27  2001 uvdlockd
-rwsr-x--x1 root daemon  78972 Aug 27  2001 uvdls
-rwsr-x--x1 root daemon2006604 Aug 27  2001 uvlictool
-rwsr-x--x1 root daemon  13152 Aug 27  2001 uvpset
-rwsr-x--x2 root daemon5041216 Aug 27  2001 uvrestore
-rwsr-x--x1 root daemon  12152 Aug 27  2001 uvsetacc

and my current RH AS3 box running UV 10.1.4 installed with uvadm as 
admin has these suid binaries:


-rwsr-x--x1 root bin   1263112 Jul 26  2004 clean
-rwsr-x--x1 root bin   2909844 Jul 26  2004 convchar
-rwsr-x--x1 root bin   1285180 Jul 26  2004 list_readu
-rwsr-x--x1 root bin   1269756 Jul 26  2004 sp.edit
-rwsr-x--x1 root bin   1263452 Jul 26  2004 upduvtrans
-rwsr-x--x1 root bin 37888 Jul 26  2004 uv
-rwsr-x--x1 root bin   2903540 Jul 26  2004 uvadmsh
-rwsr-x--x2 root bin   3004036 Jul 26  2004 uvbackup
-rwsr-x--x1 root bin   1282588 Jul 26  2004 uvdlockd
-rwsr-x--x1 uvadmroot  8673151 Jul 28  2004 uvdlockd.d
-rwsr-x--x1 root bin 37760 Jul 26  2004 uvdls
-rwsr-x--x1 root bin   1268488 Jul 26  2004 uvlictool
-rwsr-x--x1 root bin  3856 Jul 26  2004 uvpset
-rwsr-x--x2 root bin   3004036 Jul 26  2004 uvrestore
-rwsr-x--x1 root bin  3176 Jul 26  2004 uvsetacc

The only one I personally modified on both systems was sp.edit.  It 
seems that the rest were meant to be runnable as root by non-root users 
by default, but I don't know why other installs wouldn't also be set up 
this way.


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Re: [U2] RedHat, Universe, unlocking

2006-03-09 Thread Ray Wurlod

You do NOT have to be root.  You can create uvadm as the UniVerse
Administrator user when installing.  It's possible that you can also 
change

from using root to uvadm as the UniVerse Administrator subsequently (for
example they have implemented this in DataStage) but I have not checked
whether it's actually possible in UniVerse.  But it would not be a problem
to re-install (upgrade to exactly the same release) to set uvadm as the
UniVerse Administrator.  It's all well documented, particularly in the 
UV904

(Administering UniVerse) class from IBM.

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Ray,

Because in order to be uvadm on *nix based systems, you must be root.  In
windows, you need to be a part of the administrator group. Sucky, isn't
it?

Steve

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[Fwd: Re: [U2] RedHat, Universe, unlocking]

2006-03-09 Thread John Godzina
Hrm ... I dunno ... I installed universe and specified using uvadm as 
the admin user.  My perms on list_readu are different:
-rwxr-x--x  1 root uvadm 1289340 May 10  2005 
/usr/local/Universe/ibm/bin/list_readu

uvadm belongs to:
uid=600(uvadm) gid=600(uvadm) groups=600(uvadm) 
context=user_u:system_r:unconfined_t
 which implies I _should_ be able to execute this, but I always get
Insufficient privileges to perform lock maintenance.


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Sirulnick, Steve wrote:
> Because in order to be uvadm on *nix based systems, you must be root.  In
> windows, you need to be a part of the administrator group. Sucky, isn't it?

uvadm doesn't need root priviledges, but AFAIK you have to specify that 
you're going to use uvadm as the admin user rather than root during the 
UV installation process.  This is necessary to set file permissions 
correctly.  This is my uvadm entry in /etc/passwd on RH AS 3:

uvadm:x:501:501::/home/uvadm:/bin/bash

The list_readu binary is still owned by root, but suid is set:

-rwsr-x--x1 root bin   1285180 Jul 26  2004 list_readu

I didn't do this myself so it must have been done during the initial 
install.  Almost everything else is owned by uvadm though, so I'd 
venture to guess that if you've already specified root as admin during 
install, the only safe way to switch to uvadm is to reinstall.

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Re: [U2] RedHat, Universe, unlocking

2006-03-09 Thread John Hester

Sirulnick, Steve wrote:

Because in order to be uvadm on *nix based systems, you must be root.  In
windows, you need to be a part of the administrator group. Sucky, isn't it?


uvadm doesn't need root priviledges, but AFAIK you have to specify that 
you're going to use uvadm as the admin user rather than root during the 
UV installation process.  This is necessary to set file permissions 
correctly.  This is my uvadm entry in /etc/passwd on RH AS 3:


uvadm:x:501:501::/home/uvadm:/bin/bash

The list_readu binary is still owned by root, but suid is set:

-rwsr-x--x1 root bin   1285180 Jul 26  2004 list_readu

I didn't do this myself so it must have been done during the initial 
install.  Almost everything else is owned by uvadm though, so I'd 
venture to guess that if you've already specified root as admin during 
install, the only safe way to switch to uvadm is to reinstall.


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RE: [U2] RedHat, Universe, unlocking

2006-03-09 Thread Anthony Dzikiewicz
This may be of some help.  
At one time, I needed non-root users to be able to do PORT.STATUS to see
all that was happening on the system.  Anyway, to resolve this I did
(Red Hat Linux);
 cd /usr/bin
 chmod u=rws ipcs

I believe the 'chmod' may have been done to list_readu as well.  Anyway,
that was the magic that allowed non-root users be able to issue
PORT.STATUS and get to see everything going on instead of just their own
'stuff' (default).

This may work for you.

Anthony
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RE: [U2] RedHat, Universe, unlocking

2006-03-09 Thread Sirulnick, Steve
John,

I tried sudo for uv/bin/list_readu does not work as there are other things
UV and linux must have permissions to use the UniVerse Administrator and
utilities.  You still must be root to be able to perform UniVerse
administration.  

sudo bin/uv  seems to be the quickest way to allow a user to be an admin.
Granted, there are security flaws with this (hopefully you're not going to
give root privileges to just anyone), but it's a lot cleaner than mucking
with the UID's and I mentioned before.

Steve

PS if sudo bin/list_readu works for you, then I would like to see how you
did it.

-Original Message-
From: John Godzina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 7:22 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] RedHat, Universe, unlocking

No, I meant configuring sudo to be able to invoke list_readu (which is 
what unlock calls)

Sirulnick, Steve wrote:

> John,
>
> You can. In order for it to work though, you have to invoke a universe 
> shell for it to work.  For example, you could telnet or ssh into your 
> account and type sudo /path/to/bin/uv, enter your password... or 
> however you set up sudo and you're now logged in as root. That 
> completely avoids having to create more than one user with UID 0.
>
> Steve
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Godzina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 2:30 PM
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: Re: [U2] RedHat, Universe, unlocking
>
> Could you use sudo to avoid full admin rights but allow the UV admin
> commands?
>
> Sirulnick, Steve wrote:
>
> >Just as a follow up. This does include using UNLOCK. :)
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Sirulnick, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 11:27 AM
> >To: 'Peter Veenhof'; u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> >Subject: RE: [U2] RedHat, Universe, unlocking
> >
> >Peter,
> >
> >I have had to set up an administrator accounts and I'm not 
> necessarily happy
> >with this solution.  There may be better ways to go out there.  I've 
> had to
> >create a user with UID 0 privileges.  Universe requires super-user 
> function
> >to be able to use the admin tools (SYSADM.MENU) and this was the only
> >solution.
> >
> >HTH,
> >
> >Steve
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Peter Veenhof [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 9:25 AM
> >To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> >Subject: [U2] RedHat, Universe, unlocking
> >
> >Hi all,
> >
> >Running Universe on Redhat, how does one setup a user to be able to
> >perform UNLOCK at TCL?
> >
> >Thanks
> >Peter
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RE: [U2] RedHat, Universe, unlocking

2006-03-09 Thread Sirulnick, Steve
Ray,

Because in order to be uvadm on *nix based systems, you must be root.  In
windows, you need to be a part of the administrator group. Sucky, isn't it?

Steve

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Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 6:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [U2] RedHat, Universe, unlocking

Why not just set up a uvadm user?
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Re: [U2] RedHat, Universe, unlocking

2006-03-08 Thread John Godzina
No, I meant configuring sudo to be able to invoke list_readu (which is 
what unlock calls)

Sirulnick, Steve wrote:

> John,
>
> You can. In order for it to work though, you have to invoke a universe 
> shell for it to work.  For example, you could telnet or ssh into your 
> account and type sudo /path/to/bin/uv, enter your password... or 
> however you set up sudo and you're now logged in as root. That 
> completely avoids having to create more than one user with UID 0.
>
> Steve
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Godzina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 2:30 PM
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: Re: [U2] RedHat, Universe, unlocking
>
> Could you use sudo to avoid full admin rights but allow the UV admin
> commands?
>
> Sirulnick, Steve wrote:
>
> >Just as a follow up. This does include using UNLOCK. :)
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Sirulnick, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 11:27 AM
> >To: 'Peter Veenhof'; u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> >Subject: RE: [U2] RedHat, Universe, unlocking
> >
> >Peter,
> >
> >I have had to set up an administrator accounts and I'm not 
> necessarily happy
> >with this solution.  There may be better ways to go out there.  I've 
> had to
> >create a user with UID 0 privileges.  Universe requires super-user 
> function
> >to be able to use the admin tools (SYSADM.MENU) and this was the only
> >solution.
> >
> >HTH,
> >
> >Steve
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Peter Veenhof [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 9:25 AM
> >To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> >Subject: [U2] RedHat, Universe, unlocking
> >
> >Hi all,
> >
> >Running Universe on Redhat, how does one setup a user to be able to
> >perform UNLOCK at TCL?
> >
> >Thanks
> >Peter
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RE: [U2] RedHat, Universe, unlocking

2006-03-08 Thread Sirulnick, Steve
John,

You can. In order for it to work though, you have to invoke a universe shell
for it to work.  For example, you could telnet or ssh into your account and
type sudo /path/to/bin/uv, enter your password... or however you set up sudo
and you're now logged in as root. That completely avoids having to create
more than one user with UID 0.

Steve 

-Original Message-
From: John Godzina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 2:30 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] RedHat, Universe, unlocking

Could you use sudo to avoid full admin rights but allow the UV admin 
commands?

Sirulnick, Steve wrote:

>Just as a follow up. This does include using UNLOCK. :)
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Sirulnick, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 11:27 AM
>To: 'Peter Veenhof'; u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
>Subject: RE: [U2] RedHat, Universe, unlocking
>
>Peter,
>
>I have had to set up an administrator accounts and I'm not necessarily
happy
>with this solution.  There may be better ways to go out there.  I've had to
>create a user with UID 0 privileges.  Universe requires super-user function
>to be able to use the admin tools (SYSADM.MENU) and this was the only
>solution.
>
>HTH,
>
>Steve 
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Peter Veenhof [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 9:25 AM
>To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
>Subject: [U2] RedHat, Universe, unlocking
>
>Hi all,
>
>Running Universe on Redhat, how does one setup a user to be able to
>perform UNLOCK at TCL?
>
>Thanks
>Peter
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RE: [U2] RedHat, Universe, unlocking

2006-03-08 Thread Sirulnick, Steve
Sure, but be EXTREMELY careful as you could REALLY screw things up.

 

You must be signed on as root to do this and have a terminal session open.

 

1.  Type in vipw. This utility will open up the password file without
inappropriately locking it.  You should see lines that look like:

someuser:x:10236:501::/ibm/data/account:/bin/bash

2.  Scroll to the user account. Select "i" (for insert) to begin
editing. Replace the line in the third position where each position is
terminated by a ":" with a "0"  In this case, the third position is "10236".
3.   After you have completed this, hit  and enter ":","w","q".
This should write the file and quit the first part of the program. NOTE:
when you type ":","w","q" you will see those characters at the bottom of
your screen only. Not within the body of the file you're trying to edit!!!
4.  You should then be prompted to edit the shadow file.  Would you like
to edit /etc/shadow now [y/n]?  Answer "y" This will take you to the shadow
file.
5.  It's not necessary to edit anything here, so just enter ":wq".  This
should take you out of the program.
6.  BIG FAT NOTE: If at any time you think you've errored editing, type
,"q","!"  This will escape the file without saving.
7.  If you run into any problems, type man vipw from the terminal.  

 

If you're unsure about this, don't attempt it on your production box. Try it
on a test system.  

Steve

 

-Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 1:52 PM
To: Sirulnick, Steve; u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] RedHat, Universe, unlocking

 

Thanks Steve!

 

Bit of a newbie in Redhat here, do you have steps or the exact command on
how to create one of these users??

 

Thanks again,

Peter

 

 

  _  

From: Sirulnick, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 11:27 AM
To: Peter Veenhof; u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] RedHat, Universe, unlocking

 

Peter, 

I have had to set up an administrator accounts and I'm not necessarily happy
with this solution.  There may be better ways to go out there.  I've had to
create a user with UID 0 privileges.  Universe requires super-user function
to be able to use the admin tools (SYSADM.MENU) and this was the only
solution.

HTH, 

Steve 

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<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 9:25 AM 
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org 
Subject: [U2] RedHat, Universe, unlocking 

Hi all, 

Running Universe on Redhat, how does one setup a user to be able to 
perform UNLOCK at TCL? 

Thanks 
Peter 
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Re: [U2] RedHat, Universe, unlocking

2006-03-08 Thread Ray Wurlod
Why not just set up a uvadm user?
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Re: [U2] RedHat, Universe, unlocking

2006-03-08 Thread John Godzina
Could you use sudo to avoid full admin rights but allow the UV admin 
commands?

Sirulnick, Steve wrote:

>Just as a follow up. This does include using UNLOCK. :)
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Sirulnick, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 11:27 AM
>To: 'Peter Veenhof'; u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
>Subject: RE: [U2] RedHat, Universe, unlocking
>
>Peter,
>
>I have had to set up an administrator accounts and I'm not necessarily happy
>with this solution.  There may be better ways to go out there.  I've had to
>create a user with UID 0 privileges.  Universe requires super-user function
>to be able to use the admin tools (SYSADM.MENU) and this was the only
>solution.
>
>HTH,
>
>Steve 
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Peter Veenhof [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 9:25 AM
>To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
>Subject: [U2] RedHat, Universe, unlocking
>
>Hi all,
>
>Running Universe on Redhat, how does one setup a user to be able to
>perform UNLOCK at TCL?
>
>Thanks
>Peter
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RE: [U2] RedHat, Universe, unlocking

2006-03-08 Thread Peter Veenhof
Thanks Steve!



Bit of a newbie in Redhat here, do you have steps or the exact command
on how to create one of these users??



Thanks again,

Peter







From: Sirulnick, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 11:27 AM
To: Peter Veenhof; u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] RedHat, Universe, unlocking



Peter,

I have had to set up an administrator accounts and I'm not necessarily
happy with this solution.  There may be better ways to go out there.
I've had to create a user with UID 0 privileges.  Universe requires
super-user function to be able to use the admin tools (SYSADM.MENU) and
this was the only solution.

HTH,

Steve

-Original Message-
From: Peter Veenhof [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 9:25 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] RedHat, Universe, unlocking

Hi all,

Running Universe on Redhat, how does one setup a user to be able to
perform UNLOCK at TCL?

Thanks
Peter
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RE: [U2] RedHat, Universe, unlocking

2006-03-08 Thread Sirulnick, Steve
Just as a follow up. This does include using UNLOCK. :)

-Original Message-
From: Sirulnick, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 11:27 AM
To: 'Peter Veenhof'; u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] RedHat, Universe, unlocking

Peter,

I have had to set up an administrator accounts and I'm not necessarily happy
with this solution.  There may be better ways to go out there.  I've had to
create a user with UID 0 privileges.  Universe requires super-user function
to be able to use the admin tools (SYSADM.MENU) and this was the only
solution.

HTH,

Steve 

-Original Message-
From: Peter Veenhof [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 9:25 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] RedHat, Universe, unlocking

Hi all,

Running Universe on Redhat, how does one setup a user to be able to
perform UNLOCK at TCL?

Thanks
Peter
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RE: [U2] RedHat, Universe, unlocking

2006-03-08 Thread Sirulnick, Steve
Peter,

I have had to set up an administrator accounts and I'm not necessarily happy
with this solution.  There may be better ways to go out there.  I've had to
create a user with UID 0 privileges.  Universe requires super-user function
to be able to use the admin tools (SYSADM.MENU) and this was the only
solution.

HTH,

Steve 

-Original Message-
From: Peter Veenhof [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 9:25 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] RedHat, Universe, unlocking

Hi all,

Running Universe on Redhat, how does one setup a user to be able to
perform UNLOCK at TCL?

Thanks
Peter
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