RE: Re[2]: [U2] Over-coming EDitor shortcomings
Just to say my 2 pennies on that one - personally I much prefer Wintegrate to Accuterm - Accuterm from the word go feels like an old vb 5 product - the splash screen is straight out of the nineties, it all feels dare I say very American :o . Wintegrate seems to have a much more modern approach, look and feel and has some very exciting features released every year. Rgds Symeon. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MAJ Programming Sent: 16 October 2007 00:33 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: Re[2]: [U2] Over-coming EDitor shortcomings What is WINE and is it a MV item or a non MV item. I use Accuterm as a wonderful cross-platform Windows-based Notepad style editor for Data/basic programs. Programs come alive when compared to over 25 years of EDIT or other 80x24 screen editors. Just being able to see 60 lines of code with color syntax highlighting is worth the price alone. The very popular MS commands are welcome. Oddly enough, WED is a derivative of the original MS EDIT that was very welcome compared to EDLIN. I am a strong proponent of WED and its Graphical development environment and it's a very good emulator. Please elaborate on your not knowing why anyone would use Accuterm. Those are pretty strong words against one of the most prevelant emulators in the MV world. I may have not used every emulator, especially the freeware ones that pop up on the internet. But I have worked with probably 10 emulators on MV-based systems and Accuterm kills them all, even Wintegrate. My 2 cents. Mark Johnson - Original Message - From: David Tod Sigafoos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 1:43 PM Subject: Re[2]: [U2] Over-coming EDitor shortcomings MAJ, Does Accuterm work under WINE (though not sure why anyone would want to use Accuterm G) Monday, October 15, 2007, 6:07:04 AM, you wrote: SNIP MP I don't argue the stability or anything supporting the use of unix as a MP desktop OS. But in this case, it loses if it cannot use Accuterm. -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ Our greatest duty in this life is to help others. And please, if you can't help them, could you at least not hurt them? - H.H. the Dalai Lama --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: Re[2]: [U2] Over-coming EDitor shortcomings
Have you tried Accuterm's WED (windows editor) or GED (Graphical design environment) or are you just comparing it as an emulator. I did a comparison between Accuterm Wintegrate 2 years ago for a client and Accuterm won hands down. Plus, despite the features winning, the price was phenomonal. $1000 for 50 licenses for Accuterm versus $200 each for Wintegrate. That's a factor of 10 times more expensive. My 20 cents. Mark Johnson - Original Message - From: Symeon Breen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 6:21 AM Subject: RE: Re[2]: [U2] Over-coming EDitor shortcomings Just to say my 2 pennies on that one - personally I much prefer Wintegrate to Accuterm - Accuterm from the word go feels like an old vb 5 product - the splash screen is straight out of the nineties, it all feels dare I say very American :o . Wintegrate seems to have a much more modern approach, look and feel and has some very exciting features released every year. Rgds Symeon. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MAJ Programming Sent: 16 October 2007 00:33 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: Re[2]: [U2] Over-coming EDitor shortcomings What is WINE and is it a MV item or a non MV item. I use Accuterm as a wonderful cross-platform Windows-based Notepad style editor for Data/basic programs. Programs come alive when compared to over 25 years of EDIT or other 80x24 screen editors. Just being able to see 60 lines of code with color syntax highlighting is worth the price alone. The very popular MS commands are welcome. Oddly enough, WED is a derivative of the original MS EDIT that was very welcome compared to EDLIN. I am a strong proponent of WED and its Graphical development environment and it's a very good emulator. Please elaborate on your not knowing why anyone would use Accuterm. Those are pretty strong words against one of the most prevelant emulators in the MV world. I may have not used every emulator, especially the freeware ones that pop up on the internet. But I have worked with probably 10 emulators on MV-based systems and Accuterm kills them all, even Wintegrate. My 2 cents. Mark Johnson - Original Message - From: David Tod Sigafoos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 1:43 PM Subject: Re[2]: [U2] Over-coming EDitor shortcomings MAJ, Does Accuterm work under WINE (though not sure why anyone would want to use Accuterm G) Monday, October 15, 2007, 6:07:04 AM, you wrote: SNIP MP I don't argue the stability or anything supporting the use of unix as a MP desktop OS. But in this case, it loses if it cannot use Accuterm. -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ Our greatest duty in this life is to help others. And please, if you can't help them, could you at least not hurt them? - H.H. the Dalai Lama --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: Re[2]: [U2] Over-coming EDitor shortcomings
Is anyone using Accuterm in the Unidata environment (7.1)? I downloaded an evaluation. The terminal emulation works OK, but when I try to start the wED, I get this message At ECL the computer complains about FTTCL not being a verb. I emailed Accuterm support, but have gotten no response. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation David Tod Sigafoos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/15/2007 12:43 PM Please respond to u2-users To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org cc: Subject:Re[2]: [U2] Over-coming EDitor shortcomings MAJ, Does Accuterm work under WINE (though not sure why anyone would want to use Accuterm G) Monday, October 15, 2007, 6:07:04 AM, you wrote: SNIP MP I don't argue the stability or anything supporting the use of unix as a MP desktop OS. But in this case, it loses if it cannot use Accuterm. -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ Our greatest duty in this life is to help others. And please, if you can't help them, could you at least not hurt them? - H.H. the Dalai Lama --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif] --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: Re[2]: [U2] Over-coming EDitor shortcomings
Praise the Lord there are plenty of emulators to choose from. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: Re[2]: [U2] Over-coming EDitor shortcomings
Charles, I have used Accuterm in 7.1 since its release and before that 6.1. It sounds like you did not get a good install. Make sure you have the latest install programs - my Accuterm version is 5.3.131. I think I download the latest when I first installed. Also, did you type BASICTYPE P at TCL - I mean ECL before you started your install. I am sure if you call Peter he will get you started quickly. Accuterm is the best - I and other developers I work with have used it for at least 15 years. george -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 9:00 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: Re[2]: [U2] Over-coming EDitor shortcomings Is anyone using Accuterm in the Unidata environment (7.1)? I downloaded an evaluation. The terminal emulation works OK, but when I try to start the wED, I get this message At ECL the computer complains about FTTCL not being a verb. I emailed Accuterm support, but have gotten no response. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation David Tod Sigafoos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/15/2007 12:43 PM Please respond to u2-users To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org cc: Subject:Re[2]: [U2] Over-coming EDitor shortcomings MAJ, Does Accuterm work under WINE (though not sure why anyone would want to use Accuterm G) Monday, October 15, 2007, 6:07:04 AM, you wrote: SNIP MP I don't argue the stability or anything supporting the use of unix as a MP desktop OS. But in this case, it loses if it cannot use Accuterm. -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ Our greatest duty in this life is to help others. And please, if you can't help them, could you at least not hurt them? - H.H. the Dalai Lama --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif] --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: Re[2]: [U2] Over-coming EDitor shortcomings
The latest release is 5.3c (5.3.304), I just downloaded it Friday. Brenda -Original Message- From: George R Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 10:40 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re[2]: [U2] Over-coming EDitor shortcomings Charles, I have used Accuterm in 7.1 since its release and before that 6.1. It sounds like you did not get a good install. Make sure you have the latest install programs - my Accuterm version is 5.3.131. I think I download the latest when I first installed. Also, did you type BASICTYPE P at TCL - I mean ECL before you started your install. I am sure if you call Peter he will get you started quickly. Accuterm is the best - I and other developers I work with have used it for at least 15 years. george -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 9:00 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: Re[2]: [U2] Over-coming EDitor shortcomings Is anyone using Accuterm in the Unidata environment (7.1)? I downloaded an evaluation. The terminal emulation works OK, but when I try to start the wED, I get this message At ECL the computer complains about FTTCL not being a verb. I emailed Accuterm support, but have gotten no response. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation David Tod Sigafoos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/15/2007 12:43 PM Please respond to u2-users To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org cc: Subject:Re[2]: [U2] Over-coming EDitor shortcomings MAJ, Does Accuterm work under WINE (though not sure why anyone would want to use Accuterm G) Monday, October 15, 2007, 6:07:04 AM, you wrote: SNIP MP I don't argue the stability or anything supporting the use of unix as a MP desktop OS. But in this case, it loses if it cannot use Accuterm. -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ Our greatest duty in this life is to help others. And please, if you can't help them, could you at least not hurt them? - H.H. the Dalai Lama --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif] --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] Over-coming EDitor shortcomings
MAJ, Does Accuterm work under WINE (though not sure why anyone would want to use Accuterm G) Monday, October 15, 2007, 6:07:04 AM, you wrote: SNIP MP I don't argue the stability or anything supporting the use of unix as a MP desktop OS. But in this case, it loses if it cannot use Accuterm. -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ Our greatest duty in this life is to help others. And please, if you can't help them, could you at least not hurt them? - H.H. the Dalai Lama --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: Re[2]: [U2] Over-coming EDitor shortcomings
What is WINE and is it a MV item or a non MV item. I use Accuterm as a wonderful cross-platform Windows-based Notepad style editor for Data/basic programs. Programs come alive when compared to over 25 years of EDIT or other 80x24 screen editors. Just being able to see 60 lines of code with color syntax highlighting is worth the price alone. The very popular MS commands are welcome. Oddly enough, WED is a derivative of the original MS EDIT that was very welcome compared to EDLIN. I am a strong proponent of WED and its Graphical development environment and it's a very good emulator. Please elaborate on your not knowing why anyone would use Accuterm. Those are pretty strong words against one of the most prevelant emulators in the MV world. I may have not used every emulator, especially the freeware ones that pop up on the internet. But I have worked with probably 10 emulators on MV-based systems and Accuterm kills them all, even Wintegrate. My 2 cents. Mark Johnson - Original Message - From: David Tod Sigafoos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 1:43 PM Subject: Re[2]: [U2] Over-coming EDitor shortcomings MAJ, Does Accuterm work under WINE (though not sure why anyone would want to use Accuterm G) Monday, October 15, 2007, 6:07:04 AM, you wrote: SNIP MP I don't argue the stability or anything supporting the use of unix as a MP desktop OS. But in this case, it loses if it cannot use Accuterm. -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ Our greatest duty in this life is to help others. And please, if you can't help them, could you at least not hurt them? - H.H. the Dalai Lama --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
