RE: Optimisation ?

2004-03-26 Thread Anthony Youngman
Did you know the Americans weren't even the first to build a successful
aeroplane?

The first aircraft built that flew successfully (note my strange word
order :-) was built in 1896, in England.

Unfortunately, it had to be rebuilt, and the first successful flight was
(iirc) 1912.

Cheers,
Wol

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Sent: 26 March 2004 01:17
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Subject: RE: Optimisation ?

PS.  Why do you think the Americans on this list felt the need to change
the
spelling of Optimisation from the original English (Scots?).  The rest
of
us put up with enough centers and realizes from you yanks!

Did anyone else get the monthly jBASE Did you know? email from Kerri
Duffy?  In it she says:

Did you know...?  Charles Lindbergh was not the first man to fly nonstop
across the Atlantic Ocean.  Two men had achieved the same goal eight
years
earlier!   Flying for sixteen and a half hours from June 14-15, 1919,
Captain John Alcock and Lieutenant Arthur Whitten-Brown had copiloted a
Vichers-Vimy twin-engine plane nonstop from Newfoundland across the
Atlantic
to Ireland.  Lindbergh was just the first person to do it alone.

She could just as easily have said Lindbergh was just the first
American to
do it.  I think most non-yanks would have known that Alcock and Brown's
was
the first crossing of the Atlantic by air.

/grrr




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Re: Optimisation ?

2004-03-26 Thread Jonathan Leckie
LOL, thank you gentlemen you are all scholars, because of your sage advice I
have cut my estimated time to do a clear down from an estimated 45 days (of
8 hours) to 4 hours.

The version of Unidata I use assumes the R option if no third parameter is
given to the TRIM function.

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From: Jonathan Leckie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 12:29 PM
Subject: Optimisation ?


 I have the following piece of code :

 IF REC1 £ '' THEN
   MAX=DCOUNT(REC1,VM)
   FOR LOP=1 TO MAX
 IF REC1,LOP = '' THEN
   REC=DELETE(REC,1,LOP,0)
   IF LOP = MAX THEN GO 300
   LOP=LOP-1
 END
   NEXT LOP
 END

 I wonder could this simply be replaced with :

 IF REC1 £ '' THEN
   REC1=TRIM(REC1,@VM)
   GO 300
 END

 Can anyone see any problems with using TRIM to remove trailing, repeated
and
 initial value markers and therefore achieving the same effect without
 looping through each multi-value?  This is on Unidata 3.3.2 incidentally.




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RE: Optimisation ?

2004-03-26 Thread Glenn Herbert
I knew this!!!  I believe there was also a New Zealander, Richard Pearce, 
who is eye witnessed to have flown in March 1903.  Check out: 
http://www.nzedge.com/heroes/pearse.html

At 03:02 AM 03/26/2004, you wrote:
Did you know the Americans weren't even the first to build a successful
aeroplane?
The first aircraft built that flew successfully (note my strange word
order :-) was built in 1896, in England.
Unfortunately, it had to be rebuilt, and the first successful flight was
(iirc) 1912.
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[OT] Airplane flights and stuff was Re: Optimisation ?

2004-03-26 Thread FFT2001
The Russians flew an aircraft in 1857!

No no the Japanese had one flying in 1831!

So? The Chinese flew one in 731

In a message dated 3/26/2004 9:10:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

 I knew this!!!  I believe there was also a New Zealander, Richard Pearce, 
 who is eye witnessed to have flown in March 1903.  Check out: 
 http://www.nzedge.com/heroes/pearse.html
 
 At 03:02 AM 03/26/2004, you wrote:
 Did you know the Americans weren't even the first to build a successful
 aeroplane?
 
 The first aircraft built that flew successfully (note my strange word
 order :-) was built in 1896, in England.
 
 Unfortunately, it had to be rebuilt, and the first 
 successful flight was
 (iirc) 1912.
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RE: Optimisation ?

2004-03-25 Thread Peter Olson
LOL...

I can't get this to get out of the loop!!!

the trim crt'ed pretty quick... neat!

: L23   
0001:   PETE = 'THIS}IS }}}A TEST}}}'   
0002:   CRT TRIM( PETE , @VM )  
0003:   REC = PETE  
0004:   MAX = DCOUNT( REC 1  , @VM )  
0005:   FOR LOP=1 TO MAX
0006:  IF REC1,LOP = '' THEN  
0007: REC=DELETE(REC,1,LOP,0)   
0008: IF LOP = MAX THEN GO 300  
0009: LOP=LOP-1 
0010:  END  
0011:   NEXT LOP
0012: 300:  
0013:   CRT REC 



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 7:29 AM
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Subject: Optimisation ?


I have the following piece of code :

IF REC1 £ '' THEN
  MAX=DCOUNT(REC1,VM)
  FOR LOP=1 TO MAX
IF REC1,LOP = '' THEN
  REC=DELETE(REC,1,LOP,0)
  IF LOP = MAX THEN GO 300
  LOP=LOP-1
END
  NEXT LOP
END

I wonder could this simply be replaced with :

IF REC1 £ '' THEN
  REC1=TRIM(REC1,@VM)
  GO 300
END

Can anyone see any problems with using TRIM to remove trailing, repeated and
initial value markers and therefore achieving the same effect without
looping through each multi-value?  This is on Unidata 3.3.2 incidentally.



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RE: Optimisation ?

2004-03-25 Thread Anthony Youngman
After you decrement LOP, you need to decrement MAX. Otherwise the loop will be unable 
to get beyond 4.

Think about it - as soon as you delete a null value, you are guaranteeing that if 
null will be true on your last pass, thereby decrementing LOP and requiring another 
pass, which will do the same, which will do the same ...

That's why I ALWAYS do a FOR I = MAX TO 1 STEP -1 style loop when coding this sort 
of stuff ...

Bit slower, but far harder to mess up ...

Cheers,
Wol

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Sent: 25 March 2004 12:41
To: 'U2 Users Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Optimisation ?

LOL...

I can't get this to get out of the loop!!!

the trim crt'ed pretty quick... neat!

: L23   
0001:   PETE = 'THIS}IS }}}A TEST}}}'   
0002:   CRT TRIM( PETE , @VM )  
0003:   REC = PETE  
0004:   MAX = DCOUNT( REC 1  , @VM )  
0005:   FOR LOP=1 TO MAX
0006:  IF REC1,LOP = '' THEN  
0007: REC=DELETE(REC,1,LOP,0)   
0008: IF LOP = MAX THEN GO 300  
0009: LOP=LOP-1 
0010:  END  
0011:   NEXT LOP
0012: 300:  
0013:   CRT REC 



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 7:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Optimisation ?


I have the following piece of code :

IF REC1 £ '' THEN
  MAX=DCOUNT(REC1,VM)
  FOR LOP=1 TO MAX
IF REC1,LOP = '' THEN
  REC=DELETE(REC,1,LOP,0)
  IF LOP = MAX THEN GO 300
  LOP=LOP-1
END
  NEXT LOP
END

I wonder could this simply be replaced with :

IF REC1 £ '' THEN
  REC1=TRIM(REC1,@VM)
  GO 300
END

Can anyone see any problems with using TRIM to remove trailing, repeated and
initial value markers and therefore achieving the same effect without
looping through each multi-value?  This is on Unidata 3.3.2 incidentally.



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RE: Optimisation ?

2004-03-25 Thread Peter Olson
i did a cut and paste with the code. by the way, it's still running! so
i think in some cases the trim would be a little quicker :)
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Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 7:47 AM
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Subject: RE: Optimisation ?


After you decrement LOP, you need to decrement MAX. Otherwise the loop will
be unable to get beyond 4.

Think about it - as soon as you delete a null value, you are guaranteeing
that if null will be true on your last pass, thereby decrementing LOP and
requiring another pass, which will do the same, which will do the same ...

That's why I ALWAYS do a FOR I = MAX TO 1 STEP -1 style loop when coding
this sort of stuff ...

Bit slower, but far harder to mess up ...

Cheers,
Wol

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Behalf Of Peter Olson
Sent: 25 March 2004 12:41
To: 'U2 Users Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Optimisation ?

LOL...

I can't get this to get out of the loop!!!

the trim crt'ed pretty quick... neat!

: L23   
0001:   PETE = 'THIS}IS }}}A TEST}}}'   
0002:   CRT TRIM( PETE , @VM )  
0003:   REC = PETE  
0004:   MAX = DCOUNT( REC 1  , @VM )  
0005:   FOR LOP=1 TO MAX
0006:  IF REC1,LOP = '' THEN  
0007: REC=DELETE(REC,1,LOP,0)   
0008: IF LOP = MAX THEN GO 300  
0009: LOP=LOP-1 
0010:  END  
0011:   NEXT LOP
0012: 300:  
0013:   CRT REC 



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Jonathan Leckie
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 7:29 AM
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Subject: Optimisation ?


I have the following piece of code :

IF REC1 £ '' THEN
  MAX=DCOUNT(REC1,VM)
  FOR LOP=1 TO MAX
IF REC1,LOP = '' THEN
  REC=DELETE(REC,1,LOP,0)
  IF LOP = MAX THEN GO 300
  LOP=LOP-1
END
  NEXT LOP
END

I wonder could this simply be replaced with :

IF REC1 £ '' THEN
  REC1=TRIM(REC1,@VM)
  GO 300
END

Can anyone see any problems with using TRIM to remove trailing, repeated and
initial value markers and therefore achieving the same effect without
looping through each multi-value?  This is on Unidata 3.3.2 incidentally.



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RE: Optimisation ?

2004-03-25 Thread Bill H.
Jonathan:

Despite the digression about your code, I think the TRIM() function should
work just fine.

On D3, however, no matter how many leading or trailing @VMs exist, a single
@VM remains at the beginning and/or end of the string.  This is true even
with Glenn's suggestion, TRIM(REC1, @VM, R).

This works fine on U2, but if you need to port to D3 you'd need to revert to
a modified version of the code you included below.

Hope this helps.

Bill

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 Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 4:29 AM
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 Subject: Optimisation ?


 I have the following piece of code :

 IF REC1 £ '' THEN
   MAX=DCOUNT(REC1,VM)
   FOR LOP=1 TO MAX
 IF REC1,LOP = '' THEN
   REC=DELETE(REC,1,LOP,0)
   IF LOP = MAX THEN GO 300
   LOP=LOP-1
 END
   NEXT LOP
 END

 I wonder could this simply be replaced with :

 IF REC1 £ '' THEN
   REC1=TRIM(REC1,@VM)
   GO 300
 END

 Can anyone see any problems with using TRIM to remove trailing,
 repeated and
 initial value markers and therefore achieving the same effect without
 looping through each multi-value?  This is on Unidata 3.3.2
 incidentally.

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