[Fwd:Re: [orca-list] brltty, ubuntu and orca]
- Forwarded message from Labrador labrad0r edpnet be - From: Labrador Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 12:42:33 +0200 Subject: Re: [orca-list] brltty, ubuntu and orca User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Hi Cheryl, On Sat, Sep 06, 2008 at 04:57:10PM -0500, Cheryl Homiak wrote: Is there a way to start brltty automatically when starting orca in ubuntu? On my debin box, I have brltty starting at bootup; it works in the consoles and once I start orca it also works there. But in ubuntu I don't see how to start brltty at bootup; I've resorted to starting brltty with sudo in a console and then logging in to orca. Refering to a current discuttion at the BrlTty ML, it seems there is a MEGA / GIGA BUG IN UBUNTU's 8.04.1 CD: when even you select Orca to startup with the session, you WON'T have braille through BrlTty AS LONG AS THAT PROBLEM ISN'T FIXED. Until now I wrote to Luke Yelavicz and also to the Ubuntu-Accessibility list and as answer I get NO ANSWER until now. So maybe all unhappy people should post and repost their claims to that list or someone from that team should do the effort to clear-up the situation ??? The problem is probably the /lib/brltty/brltty.sh script: this is doing abnormal things, and that script was also causing problems in the previous distro (Gutsy). BTW, try to remove completely brltty + brltty-x11 from Ubuntu Hardy: it STILL CONTINUES TO ASK ABOUT WHAT KIND OF DISPLAY AND if it is an U)sb or Bluetooth or S)erial; pressing eX)it will proceed with continuing to boot-up, but at each boot you will be stolked by that infernal question while we can't see anything at that moment. So: ther is NO problems with Orca nor Gnome, No problem with BrlTty itself, there is only a GREAT GREAT and urgent to fix proble min Ubuntu's brltty.sh script, and probably more ... (open /etc/brltty.Conf and see the syntax used, it is TOTALLY UNUSABLE). So I insist: post to Ubuntu-Accessibility, and I will do so until I obtain any answer about how to fix that problem. Aldo. - End forwarded message - -- https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1 : Micro$oft has a majority market share in the new desktop PC marketplace. This is a bug, which Ubuntu is designed to fix ! http://www.ubuntu.com/ -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: is speakup in ubuntu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Sep 01, 2008 at 02:52:04PM EST, mike wrote: Hi, I think speakup use to be in ubuntu. Is it still included? If so, how do you start it? If it is included, can it be used on the alternate CD. This would be handy for installing ubuntu server. No, speakup is not included, and will not be included again unless speakup is merged into the mainline kernel, hosted at kernel.org. Luke -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIxHScjVefwtBjIM4RAutCAJ9vf1d3c/r07UMsqXr02QEjLCbbAwCg2KJ4 flDn8lWAvwwJeHmX1WdN1yw= =sNoX -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: I'm having problems with orca crashing when running admin apps
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Mike On Mon, Sep 01, 2008 at 02:48:03PM EST, mike wrote: Hi, I can run most of the admin apps in the root account. But for some reason Orca seems to crash quite often after I have had one opened for a short time. For example, the login window app seems to crash Orca as does the package manager. Is this a known problem? Could you please outline how you manage to crash orca? A list of steps to take would be helpful, as I would like to reproduce this myself if possible. One other thing. Why is it that the update manager gives a progress report when used in the root account, but in my account I get no progress report when it is downloading? The same is true when using add remove programs. The progress report is very handy, so I hope this can be corrected. If not, how about a beep instead. This is to do with GNOME's accessibility architecture. When running update-manager from your user account, the progress report is not accessible because it is running as root. Other than setting things up to allow root accessibility windows to be usable from your user account, the only way this can be changed is by changing the update-manager code to run the UI as the user, and the actual updating as root. Luke -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIxHRnjVefwtBjIM4RAjKVAKCMtJT2eK3SZhOOJ4UHxCbJZ6iLAgCgxZl6 EKEH/irjeWsYgJ6X08A90xA= =Oc78 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: I'm having a problem with sound settings
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Sep 02, 2008 at 03:53:31AM EST, mike wrote: Hi, I went to change the login sound and discovered that there are no choices in the sound menu. The device menu in the sound setting still has it's menu. Has something changed in the sound settings? Or is this broken? What version of Ubuntu are you running? If intrepid, this is known, and a few issues need to be resolved regarding this. Remember, if you use intrepid and something breaks, at this stage of development, you get to keep both pieces. Luke -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIxHTYjVefwtBjIM4RAoEqAKCNK65ceI++55aMyYEE/Ae3m2CDAgCgmACg MijhSBdsgIV3tpc/zO4f+Wg= =wM+i -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Maybe someone can answer a question about wireless networks with ubuntu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Sep 02, 2008 at 09:28:08AM EST, mike wrote: Hi, I can now use Orca to connect to my wireless network using the included tools. Here is the problem I am having. My ubuntu machine connects to my router fine. But when I try to connect to a computer to computer network it will not connect. I know the key is right because my windows computers all connect fine. But for some reason the ubuntu computer won't connect. Has anyone else experimented with this? This may have something to do with network manager, which was recently updated to 0.7. I suggest you have a look to see if anybody has reported this problem at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bugs. If nobody has reported this, you may want to report it yourself. Luke -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIxHUjjVefwtBjIM4RAuSJAJ9lATpbjw688RxOAxk+imabi4eNPQCbBUti tjf8LnjeGe3Z6siXnCm4/e0= =BjKF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: where can I download the ubuntu manual
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 12:45:45PM EST, mike wrote: Hi, There use to be a link to download the ubuntu documentation. I got a server guide and a desktop guide at that time. But I do not see a link for downloading the guides anymore. Does anyone know the currant link to them? On what page are you on when trying to find the link? Its likely easy enough to google for, using the terms Ubuntu manual you will surely find something. Luke -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIxHV4jVefwtBjIM4RAtw+AJ0S/uN2EYdOLg2qvMNiaNRLFCFLjwCcCFR3 sy8iMzi7Lu/40cMzRxY74uo= =dAAn -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: persistent brltty question at boot time while brltty already configured
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 07:09:30AM EST, Labrador wrote: Finally after discussing this point at the Brltty list, it seems that we must enter usb: without capital letters nor quotes in the /etc/brltty.conf file. Now it workx again, but Ubuntu is persistently asking at eacht boot time for which kind of display I'm using, and pointing me for answering S for serial, U for USB, B for Bluetooth or X for exit. Somehow, the command-line arguments passed to the kernel at boot has had braille=ask added. To immediately solve this problem, I suggest you open the file /boot/grub/menu.lst as root, and search for braille-ask, and delete it. Do not delete the entire line, just delete that part of the line. Then as root, run the command update-grub. This should stop the constant prompting at boot. I would also like to know what CD you used to install Ubuntu, so I can attempt to track down that problem, and make sure it is fixed for future Ubuntu releases. Hope this helps. Luke -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIxHbHjVefwtBjIM4RAqNLAJwIrpolmGSSIz7LK7Mkf19l+Wzf5QCg2v6h b6oEBU/I9ZOMwfTxAGC8snY= =oDxr -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: I'm having a problem with orca in intrepid.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 07:46:29AM EST, mike wrote: Hi, after installing intrepid Orca worked fine. However, if I log out by using alt CTRL backspace, it starts asking me to pick a voice. Is this a known problem. Yes, when setting up intrepid on a machine last week, I experienced this problem, and intend to look into it. Note you shouldn't need to use control + alt + backspace unless GNOME/X/Orca has totally frozen, and you can't log out safely. Also the log out menu now says in accessible. Are they using a different program for this? Again, its known. Shortcut keys still work however, so you simply need to make sure the logout window has focus, and then press alt + L to log out. Hope this helps. Luke -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIxHdajVefwtBjIM4RAogAAKCtylgaeWPZTFcOdWq2xkuVFyF+fgCgpyTw bI6WFwSg2efSkMDRfG9LTJU= =v5I3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
