Re: disabilities
Hi. On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 10:52:59AM +0100, Bruno Girin wrote: snip how well (or not) they are followed by web site designers. My experience in the industry is that there are very few designers who are aware of standards and why they should be followed. And even when they are aware of accessibility standards, they don't understand them well enough to argue the case for following them, especially when it is perceived that following the standards will increase the development cost. I constantly face this problem in my day job: every time I need to write specifications for a new web based system, I include accessibility guidelines and invariably I get answers like that will increase the cost by X or that will delay delivery by Y when it's not an outright we can't do that. One point you might want to mention when they start talking about cost is that if I can't use the web site I'll ve forced to call and talk to a person to get what I want. Which has a lower cost, making the site accessible or paying someone to answer the phone? I don't have any data to know the answer. Hopefully, someone has done such studys. Kenny -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
disabilities
Hi. On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 02:08:11AM +0100, Phillip Whiteside wrote: don't complain to me that I only spend so much time on the matter - get onto the likes of http://www.w3.org/WAI/ it IS about time those with disablilties TOLD these people to stop bickering .. except that you are all still, erm . bickering. I can't speak for others, but I have complained with the same result as you. Please don't make the mistake of deciding all disabled people are part of some big group. Even blind Linux users aren't part of the same group. I see at least 2 different groups. People who run Windows and play around with Linux and people like me who run Linux full time. Our priorities are different. I want access to the web, while the users who just play in Linux want it to behave like Windows. In my case I can't afford Windows, so I do my best to get by with Linux. I do believe open source is better, so won't switch back to a model that forces me to constantly pay money I don't have to companies who only want to make as much money as possible just to keep access to the computer. I'm not against commercial programs or companies making money. I own several Cepstral voices, but I'm against the price gouging you have in Windows access. Let me repeat what I intimated in my posts on that link, until standards are decided upon, people will not put in the effort to comply with them. I agree. While these people are sitting on there ass, I loose access to more and more web sites each day. I had to switch from elinks to Firefox last week because kgoradio changed there site. All I wanted to do was download a mp3 file. Aparently, the download area didn't look good enough with the old page, so they updated it to something that won't work with elinks. I'm not suggesting all sites consider elinks as a standard, but for simple things like downloading a file or filling out a simple form, the browser shouldn't make any difference. What makes this worse is the Mozilla project puts there resources in Windows while I run Linux. They made a change to Firefox a few years ago that really made sites less usable. Dialogs no longer get focus in Firefox. This forces you to tab around until you find them. Since the existance of a dialog isn't always obvious, you can visit sites and not be able to use them because you don't know what's actually happening. This problem was brought up with the Mozilla developers with no solution. They just ignored the problem and left it to the Orca developers to try to figure out a solution. So far, no success. I asked on the forum for someone to check and see if my coding was correct - I had exactly zero replies back. How do you expect me to push forward people to include the minor code changes as they are learning when none of you are even prepared to see if it is correct? I don't know for sure, but there are likely very few disabled people on the standards committy. There is likely a token member, but the real power is with sighted people who consider this as just some cool project and don't really get that there delay causes real problems for the disabled. So, I shrug my shoulders and say well, at least I tried. It is not my loss that you have gotten yet another person do that, it is your loss as a group. Actually, it is my loss since I don't know anything about web design or standards. Once again, I'm not part of the group you are talking about. I'm just a user who is loosing access to more and more sites because some educated sighted people don't get it and don't listen. The educated sighted people in this case are the web standards group. BTW, my experiences with Firefox and Gnome are making me do the same as you. I am finding myself lumping all sighted people into the same group of fuckers who don't get it. This is bad for both of us. Kenny -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Ubuntu-accessibility Digest, Vol 54, Issue 23
Hi. On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 10:16:36AM +, Valdis wrote: ... Actually, that isn't my problem with Gnome. My problem is lack of stability and slow response. My time in Gnome usually ends when Orca crashes and nothing I try can get it to restart. At that point, anything in the Gnome session is lost. My only option is to kill the Xserver and clean ... can you start orca with wollowing command: orca ~/orca.log 21 And then check what appears in the log file? no, when it crashes, nothing I do can get it to restart. Before you ask, it isn't a tts issue since speech-dispatcher is still up and running. I've been running Linux for 10 years now, so I'm not your normal stupid Windows user. I know how to debug problems. Like I said in my earlier post, if this were a C program I would already have filed the bug report. The fact you can't easily debug a Python app is a big weakness in Orca. I don't have enough disk space to just leav the debug options in Orca enabled either, so this will likely be a bug that won't get resolved any time soon. Kenny -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Ubuntu-accessibility Digest, Vol 54, Issue 23
Hi. On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 06:21:53AM -0400, nalin linux wrote: Dear friends,easy-ocr 1.5 is released and we have made it more user friendly by introducing 2 engines, clean output folder, and facility to read unlimited number of pages. now there is no more inconvenience of creating a user in advance of installation. in this mode after entering the folder select easy installation and enter and tab to select run and then enter password and wait . system will reboot after installation automatically. What the fuck! Why are you rebooting a Linux system after a simpl istall of a user space app? Kenny -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: unimrcp.org
Hi. just wondering what this has to do with accessibility? From my reading, you can't get the synth and it won't work with speech-dispatcher. Kenny On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 05:33:52PM +, Thomas Lloyd wrote: http://www.unimrcp.org/announcements/acapelaspeechsynthesispoweredbyunimrcpopensourceproject -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: vinux 2.1
Hi. The Vinux developers should have there own mailing list. In linux, setting up a mailing list is easy. Not sure of it's address, but this list is about Ubuntu and not vinux. Kenny On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 07:05:02AM -0500, chad wrote: Hi not sure where to post this I downloaded vinux 2.1 the big iso and can't get it installed. The cd spins and I get no speech. I had a sighted person read it and it said buffering and the numbers kept climbing. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Web Browsing
Hi. I have to disagree. Two years ago, Orca provided reasonably good access with Firefox. Over the last 2 years, I've seen Firefox become less and less usable with Orca. It's now to the point where Firefox is my last choice for browzers. I try the page first in elinks. If that doesn't work, I push the link to my Nokia E71. If it can't handle the page, and I really need to read it, I'll use Firefox. I wish Firevox was still being maintained, since it would probably provide better access than Firefox with Orca. Kenny On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 05:10:51PM -0500, Bill Cox wrote: For Ubuntu, it's best to use the Orca screen reader with Firefox to see if your web page is accessible, since that's how most users do it. You can start it from the command line with 'orca'. However, there are some current bugs in Orca related to changes in Firefox 3.6, which are being worked on actively. Bill On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Phill Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: Hi, a couple of questions .. 1) Is Fire Vox now un-supported (I cannot find anything for 3.6 and 3.7 is in release candidate testing) ? 1a) If no longer supported, is there a Web Reader available that I can use to check to see if my understanding of the various 'standards' actually works ? Thanks, Phill. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Wrong audfio system?
Hi. You are a sighted person who doesn't get it. If you were forced to use an app that turned off your monitor regularly and wouldn't let it work outside of a gnome session, you wouldn't put up with it for a minute. Why do you think it is ok for me to accept such a situation? That's pulseaudio for a blind person running a screen reader. Fix it first before forcing it on the world! Kenny -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: problems with speakup
Hi. I no longer run Ubuntu, but my best guess is pulseaudio grabbed your sound card. I don't see this problem running Debian. Debian will still let me use alsa instead of pulseaudio, and speakup is part of the Debian kernel. Kenny On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 06:52:34PM -0600, Mike Coulombe wrote: Does anyone know what the problem is with speakup in lucid. It worked great for a few days, but stoped working a few days ago. A new install didn't fix this. While I get no speech when pressing keys, when I restart the system from the consul, speakup does start to speak as the system is shuting down. So maybe this is a simple problem to fix? Mike. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: OCR in Linux
Hi. I've been using ocropus for at least 2 years. I built the first release from source, but have used Debian packages ever since. Not sure why it isn't part of Lenny, but it is definitely part of Sid. ke...@blackbox:~$ apt-cache search ocropus ocropus - document analysis and OCR system ocropus-data - document analysis and OCR system --- data files ke...@blackbox:~$ apt-cache show ocropus Package: ocropus Status: install ok installed Priority: optional Section: graphics Installed-Size: 3732 Maintainer: Jeffrey Ratcliffe jeffrey.ratcli...@gmail.com Architecture: i386 Version: 0.3.1-2 Depends: libc6 (= 2.4), libgcc1 (= 1:4.1.1), libiulib0, libjpeg62, liblua5.1-0, libpng12-0 (= 1.2.13-4), libstdc++6 (= 4.1.1), libtiff4, zlib1g (= 1:1.1.4), ocropus-data (= 0.3.1-2) Recommends: tesseract-ocr (= 2.03-2) Breaks: ocrodjvu ( 0.3) Description: document analysis and OCR system OCRopus(tm) is a state-of-the-art document analysis and Optical Character Recognition (OCR) system, featuring pluggable layout analysis, pluggable character recognition, statistical natural language modeling, and multi-lingual capabilities. . The OCRopus engine is based on two research projects: a high-performance handwriting recognizer developed in the mid-90's and deployed by the US Census bureau, and novel high-performance layout analysis methods. . OCRopus development is sponsored by Google and is initially intended for high-throughput, high-volume document conversion efforts. It will also be an excellent OCR system for many other applications. Homepage: http://code.google.com/p/ocropus/ I knew you were talking about ocropus and not tesseract. Kenny On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 10:56:50PM -0500, pmik...@comcast.net wrote: Hi. It's part of Debian. I am running Sid, but it's been a Debian package for a few years. Huh? I thought ocropus just got created via google summer of code not long ago. You and others must have thought I meant tesseract which is not the email I replied to because you are the second person who emailed me something about it instead of ocropus to my query about ocropus here. The other guy who emailed me I am even more sure meant tesseract because he actually included a link to it. I appreciate everyone's kindness to answer questions, but please read the message people are replying to before replying. Thanks. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: OCR in Linux
Hi. Have you tried ocropus? Don't know if it's in Ubuntu, but it's definitely a Debian package. Kenny On Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 04:15:42PM -0500, Pia wrote: Does anyone have an opinion about what the best OCR software is for Linux for blind people that talks well? I would prefer a command line package, but if there is only a GUI one that works OK, knowing about it would be good to know too. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: How's Karmic these days?
Hi. This is fine if you already have speech, but how would you do this with no speech due to no volume? Kenny On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 09:24:56PM +0530, Arky wrote: --- On Wed, 21/10/09, Jon j.orcau...@googlemail.com wrote: WARNING, if you dont have volume buttons on your keyboard/laptop then its probably not worth your time. The issue seems to be that pulse audio volume is set to 0 when it starts, and if you dont have keys for changing the volume, or a sighted person to change it for you then you wont be able to hear orca. Hi, Perhaps you should not fear this so much. You can use gnome-keybinding-properties and set Volume down / up to key binding for example Alt+F11 and Alt+F12 and you would find its possible to increase and decrease the volume. I have just tried this on a Karmic machine and assure it works. Cheers --arky Rakesh 'arky' Ambati| IT Consultant| http://www.braillewithoutborders.org | Blog: http://playingwithsid.blogspot.com Connect more, do more and share more with Yahoo! India Mail. Learn more. http://in.overview.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: crashes in gnome-terminal when using karmic
Hi. It's definitely an upstream problem since I'm seeing it in Debian Sid. It started with the release of gnome-terminal 2.28. Hope it can be fixed soon because it has forced me to return to the text console to use my system. Kenny On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 09:25:46AM +1000, Luke Yelavich wrote: On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 10:02:42PM EST, jose vilmar estacio de souza wrote: Hi all, I know that this is not a problem related to accessibility but I don't know where to ask. Sometimes when using gnome-terminal, my session is closed and I am returned to desktop. Anyone experiencing a similar situation? Yes, and its got to do with some of the terminal widget's accessibility code, according to the crash report. I have filed a bug with a copy of the crash report, and am probably going to send it upstream today as well, so it can be attended to ASAP. Its interrupting my work as well. Luke -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: remove Pulseaudio
Hi. Yes, you switch to a text console using control alt f1. Then brltty will be your screen reader. Note: this assumes you have braille working in orca. You hold down control and alt, then press f1. Use alt f7 to return to your gnome session. Kenny On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 12:44:38PM +0200, Daniele Corciulo wrote: Hey all Is there a possibility to see the Terminal without orka to remove poulseaudio? I have an Alva braille display. Thanks Daniele -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Ubuntu-accessibility Digest, Vol 43, Issue 23
Hi. Your asumption is wrong. The problem of systems not having internal speakers any more is a change in main stream production. In the past, a computer case included an internal speaker. That is no longer true. That fact was never advertised, so there isn't any way to know in advance if a new system will have a speaker or not. Usually, the answer is no. Installing one will require sighted help since you will need to know where to plug it into the mother board. Since you need sighted help, why not just let them read your screen for a few seconds to let you get accessibility started. This is more likely since almost anyone with sight can read a screen, but it takes some knowledge to know where to plug a speaker on a circuit board. Kenny On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 06:30:01PM +1000, Richard Horobin wrote: I support Petra Ritter's suggestion of beeping when ready. A person who's interested in accessibility issues will probably have a sound-producing component attached. If the beep helps, then that's a help, isn't it? Richard Horobin. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Accessibility suggestion
i. Your solution makes an asumption that isn't always true. You assume all computers still have an internal speaker. I have had several desktops now that don't have an internal speaker. The speaker seems to be one of those pieces of hardware that isn't getting included in newer systems. Kenny -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: here is a way around the orca save settings problem for now
Hi. Your solution suggests the problem was a permitions issue with the account that couldn't save settings. Not sure what you did or why it happened, though. Best guess is you somehow changed the permitions on that user's home dir. Kenny On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 01:36:30PM -0500, mike wrote: Hi, to anyone installing 9.04, you will find at this time you can't save the Orca settings in your account. I'm sure this issue is being worked on, but for now here is how to fix this. First create a new account for yourself, log in to that account and set up Orca. When you log back in you will find you can save the Orca settings. Next delete your old account. If you are happy with the new name, that is all you have to do. But if you still want your original name on the account do the following. In terminal, type usermod -l followed by a space and type the name you used before followed by a space and the name you are using on this new account right now. Then press enter and log out. You should now be able to log in under the name you wanted for the account and Orca will work fine. Hope this helps some of you. Mike. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: why using graphics mode for a11y?
Hi. The short answer is the world uses it. There are more and more apps in Linux that only exist in the GUI. Web browzing is probably the best example. True, there are text browzers, but none of them provide the access to web sites available with Firefox. Kenny On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 10:36:06AM +, Nuno Donato wrote: Hello everyone I sent this email for a specific person, but would also like to get your opinions. I'm currently working in a computer company, and I would like to start helping in the development of accessible solutions for free software users. I am a new comer in this area, so I would like to make you a simple question: What is the advantage of using something so complicated as a graphical user interface, instead of using a text-only alternative? To better understand the goods and bads of orca, I tried to simulate its use by closing my eyes and trying to do tasks in my desktop. Of course it takes time for anybody to get used to it... but still, I don't get it very well. The graphical interface is interesting and can speed the use of the computer. But in case of blind people I feel it slows down even more as we have to create a mental image of the interface. I know linux has good accessiblity support since years in its text mode form. Wondering if you ever tried it, or what you think about it. take care Nuno -- Nuno Donato Serra - Tecnologias de Informação http://www.serra-ti.com ge...@serra-ti.com 912456704 / 241631188 -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Run Vibuntu on USB with persistant storage!
Hi. Create your own list and please stop constantly spamming other lists. Kenny On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 03:18:26PM -, Anthony Sales wrote: I have been cross-posting because I presumed there would be some people who are only subscribed to one list, like I was at first (Ubuntu)until someone advised me to post on the Orca list, and then someone else asked me to post on Gnome, and since then someone has asked me to post on the Ally list as well. Which list do people think it would be best to focus on: Ubuntu, Orca or Gnome. I suppose Ubuntu is the most relevant but there seems to be a lot more traffic on the other two lists, the Orca one particularly. Or is it just a few grumpy old men who disapprove of young whippersnappers like me babbling enthusiastically about their geekish obsessions? Can subscribers let me know what they think. The results will be based on a democratic vote, the judges decision is final, employees and relatives of employees are not entitled to enter! Drbongo Damn I just cross-posted again! Doh! -Original Message- From: Tomas Cerha [mailto:ce...@brailcom.org] Sent: 17 December 2008 12:34 To: Anthony Sales Subject: Re: Run Vibuntu on USB with persistant storage! Anthony Sales napsal(a): Sorry if I have annoyed anybody, as the project is very new I am still trying to reach as wide an audience as possible. Of course, I understand your motivation. However this doesn't change anything. I will try to limit any announcements or developments to one a day from now on, excluding answering individual queries that people may have! Cross posting is a bad practice in any case. If you could at least choose one mailing list, that would be significantly more considerate to the others. You can announce where you are moving Vibuntu discussions on the other lists so those who are interested will not miss it. Thank you and best regards, Tomas Confidentiality: This e-mail and its attachments are intended for the above named only and may be confidential. If they have come to you in error you must take no action based on them, nor must you copy or show them to anyone: please reply to this e-mail and highlight the error to the sender. Security Warning: Please note that e-mail has been created in the knowledge that the Internet e-mail is not a 100% secure communication medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us. Viruses: Although we have taken steps to ensure that this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advised that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free. Confidentiality: This e-mail and its attachments are intended for the above named only and may be confidential. If they have come to you in error you must take no action based on them, nor must you copy or show them to anyone: please reply to this e-mail and highlight the error to the sender. Security Warning: Please note that e-mail has been created in the knowledge that the Internet e-mail is not a 100% secure communication medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us. Viruses: Although we have taken steps to ensure that this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advised that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: working linux distribution
hi. i don't see your problem here. I find my Hardy install to be stable. As for other distros, you'd have to ask there users on the mailing list for that distro. kenny -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Orca at Login
hi. For now, that isn't an option. unfortunately, accessible login with gdm isn't currently working. The gdm developers are working on changes that will eventyally make it work, but the sound when the system is ready for ligin is the best we have. This problem isn't specific to ubuntu, it effects all Linux distros. Kenny On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 06:57:09PM -0300, E.J. Zufelt wrote: Good evening, I have successfully installed Ubuntu 8.04 on my laptop. I am wondering where, if possible, I can go to enable Orca to speak at the Ubuntu login screen? Thank you, Everett -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: best screen reader with speech for the text console
hi. you might want to check out yasr. sudo apt-get install yasr To be honest, i run all console apps in gnome-terminals now, so don't use a console screen reader any more. Kenny On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 07:17:26AM +0200, Tony Bernedal wrote: Hi there all What is the best solution for speech only in the text console? No braile. It looks like speakup is gone from ubuntu, but is there any other screen reader that works good? All the best Tony Hälsningar Tony -- Lyssna på Lördagsmys på www.radiomix.no lördagar 19 - 21. -- -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Hardy and Alsa
Hi. Pulseaudio isn't a replacement for alsa. Instead of me trying to explain, you might want to visit pulseaudio.org. Any player that uses gstreamer will work with pulseaudio. Rhythmbox and totem both use gstreamer. I believe the ubuntu developers have patched mplayer and the xine engine as well. The lack of documentation doesn't bother me since I run Linux full time. I'm on several mailing lists and google will always find information. The change to pulseaudio was discussed in the Hardy release notes. I used to support new users coming to Linux and do my best to correct wrong information. Lately, I've stopped doing that. I've had it with Windows users posting messages on Linux mailing lists slamming Linux and telling me how Windows is so much better. I don't post mail to Windows lists saying how much better Linux is than Windows. The fact they can't show me the same courtesy, is insulting. My new attitude is: if they break it because they can't read and learn, they deserve it. Besides, they've already said Windows is better. Voxin, ttsynth, or what ever they call Viavoce should be avoided. They are 10 year old binaries with several nasty bugs. The people who sell them don't tell the full story about there product, and they don't seem to support it. Kenny On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 08:58:15PM -0700, Deborah Norling wrote: Thanks Kenny for the heads up on PulseAudio! I clearly broke my system by making those changes from the FAQ. I'd edit the FAQ if I knew more. Maybe someone who does, should. So with PulseAudio, am I supposed to be able to get multiple sound channels -- like listening to internet radio and software speech simultaneously? I know I have a multi-channel sound card on this machine. Which media players are compatible with this new-fangled thing? Several years ago, Alsa replaced Oss, and I never completely understood why. I did understand for some apps you had to run Oss emulation. Is Pulse-Audio now a new replacement for Alsa? So where is there user level documentation on PulseAudio? What makes it better? Do I now have to find Alsa emulation for PulseAudio? What else does this break? Would voxin or ttsynth for example still work? Any pointers to reading material would be appreciated. I have this love-hate relationship with Linux, and I think the thing I hate the most is the abundance of out-of-date and downright dangerous documentation. Not to mention the general lack of clear docs. I keep vowing to write some, but I always seem to be behind, and by the time I understand something thoroughly enough to document it, the thing I understand is depricated. I think I'm going to wear a t-shirt that says: Everything I know is now depricated! --Debee -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Hardy and Alsa
hi. Yes, that info is no longer valid. Hardy now uses pulseaudio for all output. Gnome-speech is already set up to use pulseaudio. i don't have a Hardy install nere now, but you should have left gnome-speech alone and changed all audio output in system sound to pulse instead of alsa. Hope this helps. Kenny On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 04:36:28PM -0700, Deborah Norling wrote: I am following the directions in question number 4 of the Orca faq under the heading titled: How do I get Orca to speak alongside other ALSA applications? Apt-get says that alsa-oss is already installed and the newest version. This is Hardy, installed from the live CD choosing mostly defaults. Orca worked fine, but other media players were silent when orca was running. I easily locate and edit the file GNOME_Speech_SynthesisDriver_Espeak.server. I change the third line, as the FAQ instructs so it now reads: type=exe location=/usr/bin/aoss /usr/bin/espeak-synthesis-driver I save, shutdown safely and restart. This completely breaks speech in Orca. However, I can run espeak on a command line in gnome-terminal and get speech for example a simple ls | espeak works fine. Does this information in the FAQ no longer pertain to Hardy? I remember reading somewhere that Hardy's sound drivers had drastically changed, but I can't locate the information now. --Debee -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: a question about installing the live cd to hard drive
Hi. No, that won't work. Kenny On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 06:26:39PM -0500, mike coulombe wrote: Hi, I am going to be going back to Michigan the state I grew up in for a few days next week. I would like to help some people get set up with ubuntu while I am there. Chances are most of the time I will not have any sighted help. My question is, since the installer isn't working with orca yet. If I copy the content of the live CD to a blank hard drive with a fat 32 partition would the computer boot from it that way? I would try this before I leave California, but I don't have a extra PC to format at the moment. If anyone has tried this and found it to work let me know. At least this would get a few people going with ubuntu, and they could re install later on a linux partition if they wanted to. I think one or two of the computers may still have windows 98 in them, so in those cases I can install inside windows. But I'm sure most of them have been formatted. Thanks for any suggestions Mike. X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080410-1, 04/10/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: need a program for listening to Internet radio
Hi. Totem, rhythmbox, and mplayer all will do this. There are many others, but these are the ones I use. Kenny On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 11:24:56AM -0500, mike coulombe wrote: Hi, is there a program that works with orca that will let me listen to Internet radio stations. Thanks Mike. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: a question about kde
Hi. This is something you will need to ask the KDE developers. As far as I know KDE is supposed to be accessible some day, but I haven't seen anything that says when or how. They are supposed to have added accessibility to qt4, but they chose a method that won't be easily used by ORca. Even after they release a screen reader or ORca compatible method of getting accessibility info, it will be a long time before KDE apps that use qt3 are rewritten to use qt4. Kenny -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: reading web pages with orca
Hi. Unless you have changed it, keypad enter reads the page. You need to be running the latest Firefox 3.0. Normally, Orca will just start reading the page after it loads. Kenny -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Orca Preferences won't launch
Hi. Have you tried running orca -t in a terminal? Also, control-alt-backspace is the wrong way to quit the desktop. You should choose quit from the system menu instead. Ctl-alt-backspace is the equivalent of ctl-alt-del to the Xserver. Killing the Xserver like that is only done when you have no other option. Kenny On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 09:43:50PM -, Ian Pascoe wrote: Hi All Ever since upgrading to Gutsy I haven't been able to launch the Orca preferences using Orca Key Insert + Space Bar. When I do this I get the message Orca Preferences launching - this may take some time and the speech disappears, although the screen magnification remains running. I have tried launching this from initial login, with focus on the menus and when in a terminal but to no avail. During the upgrade process, I also lost all my setings for Orca which is why I want to get at the preferences dialogue box. I have just tried it again with no success and when quitting the Gnome desktop using Ctrol + Shift + Backspace, it now sends me into restart and not back to the login. Can anyone suggest anything I can do to get things working again? If not, I'll wipe the installation and start afresh. To an aside., I think the problems arose because during the upgrade a dialogue appeared that asked if I wanted to remove old docs and folders, or some such, and I replied yes to this; I'm fairly sure that when upgrading to Fiesty from Edgey I said no at this point last time Cheers Ian -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: will orca run under kde.
Hi. No, it will not at this time. For what ever reason, KDE decided to use a different method for access than at-spi. Because of this, Orca won't work with KDE. Kenny On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 08:08:50AM -0600, mike coulombe wrote: Hi, I heard kde 4 is suppose to be axcessable. My question is will orca now run under kde? It has been over a year since I looked in to this. So some improvement should have been made by now. Mike. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: a question about installing programs
Hi. Edit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the entry for the CD. Leave the entries for internet sources uncommented and it should work. Kenny On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 11:10:16PM -0500, mike coulombe wrote: Hi, I installed ubuntu using the alternative CD, and everything worked fine. The problem I am having is when using the add remove programs. It always asks for the CD that I installed ubuntu from. Has anyone else had this problem. If so what do I have to install to correct this. Thanks Mike. X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071027-0, 10/27/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [BRLTTY] brltty.conf is altered]
Hi. I'm forwarding this message because I no longer run Ubuntu so my information on updating the initrd won't be correct. Would someone more knowledgeable please help? It is really annoying to have something break your accessibility. Kenny - Forwarded message from Sérgio Neves [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Sérgio Neves [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [BRLTTY] brltty.conf is altered Hi Kenny, Sorry for emailing you directly, but I don't want to fill the list of unecessary emails. Can you explain me what is initrd image, this function and how do I access it? Or a web site where I can learn it in a easy way? Sorry for this stupid question, but I don't dominate this subject. Thanks and best regards Sérgio Neves - Original Message - From: Kenny Hitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [BRLTTY] brltty.conf is altered i. It looks like Ubuntu has a copy of brltty.conf on there initrd. Probably the best solution is to cp your updated brltty.conf from /etc to the copy on the initrd image. then your changes will exist in both copies. The other option is to comment out the lines in brltty.sh that do the copy. Kenny ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general information, go to: http://mielke.cc/mailman/listinfo/brltty - End forwarded message - -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: resetting orca to defalt
Hi. You could always blow away your ~/.orca directory and go through the Orca setup again. Kenny -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: All these old kernels...
Hi. You can remove them using aptitude. Since they are old kernels, they are listed in obsolete packages. Just use the underline key to mark them for purging. Use g to tellaptitude to go do what you ask. Kenny On Sun, Aug 12, 2007 at 02:19:38PM +0200, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi folks. I have a whole bunch of old and obsolete kernels on my hard drive and every time there comes a new kernel my /boot/grub/menus.lst gets updated and ofcourse then includes all my old and obsolete kernels, so i have to go in and trim down the menu.lst file by hand so that i can use my dual boot with not so much down arrowing. What i would like to know is, is there a way in Ubuntu to delete the old kernels that i no longer need so that only new kernels get used and so that the menu.lst doesn't get updated and gets longer and longer? If i could start gnome, which i can't due to a mistake from me, i could probably hand-delete the kernels or something like that but i wonder if there are other more safe methods to remove old kernels. Thanks for any help. /Krister -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: need help with open office
Hi. I'm no expert on Open Office, but it looks like the only way to see the misspelled word is to use flat review. The line with the misspelled word seems to be at the top of the spell check dialog. Hope this helps. Kenny On Sat, Apr 07, 2007 at 04:40:12PM -0500, mike coulombe wrote: Hi, Open office seems to work better than it did, but I have one question. When using the spell checker orca doesn't say the misspelled word. It does say the choices of words that can be used to replace the word that is misspelled. Is there a way to get orca to say the misspelled word as well, or is this something that still doesn't work. Mike. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Upgrading to Orca
Hi. The best way to get ORca version 2.18 is to upgrade to Feisty. Although Feisty hasn't been released yet, I find it to be fairly stable. Kenny -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Help! there's something strange with my Synaptic
Hi. When I try it, I get prompted for my password and then nothing. After I enter the password, I loose speech. Orca is still running, but flat review sees nothing and I can't seem to switch to any of my open Windows. Kenny -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: a problem with time and date
Hi. Although getting access to the admin tools will be nice, I would rather see effort spent on Firefox accessibility. I have been running Linux for years, so doing admin tasks in the terminal isn't a problem for me while I have web sites I can't access in Linux yet. To answer your problem, use the ntpdate command to set your time with a ntp server. If you don't want to do it that way, use the date command in a terminal to set the date. To learn more, man date or man ntpdate. Kenny On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 11:30:21AM -0500, mike coulombe wrote: Hi, under edgy Time was accessible. However I notice it still isn't under feisty. Is this something that will be fixed in the future. Or do we have to wait for a new release before this problem is addressed. I tried on three computers and got the same results each time. As I remember I didn't have to enter a password in edgy. It now asks for the password and speech is lost after that point. I did try running this tool from terminal, but that didn't work. I then tried using yasr, but after the accessibility module initialized speech went crazy. I do understand a lot of work is being done on firefox and other programs at this point, but I think the admin tools are very important to people. Especially to anyone who has to configure their system. I for example need to set the time on my computer and can't. Don't misunderstand, I have seen a lot of progress made. The terminal doesn't crash anymore and many other programs work better. I was just wondering what if any progress is being made on getting the admin tools to work with orca from their menu. It's hard to show ubuntu and always be asked about these tools. Mike. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Please provide some updated details.
Hi. Unless you are willing to upgrade to Feisty, apt-get won't help you with Open Office, espeak, the gnome-speech espeak driver, or gnome-orca. If you stay with Edgy, you will need to build from source. There is an espeak package in Edgy, but it isn't recent enough for your needs. I run Feisty, so the espeak driver already exists for me as a Ubuntu package. I know there is a link with instructions on how to get it working from source, but I don't have it available here. There isn't a Firefox 3 package in Ubuntu yet, so you will need to download a nightly build from: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/ Kenny On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 07:17:53PM +0530, krishnakant Mane wrote: ok, so I need to install open office 2.2 on ubuntu 6.10 for best available accessibility is it right? if so then will just apt-get install get me the right version? and as of firefox 3 will I need to setup some thing in my system? till date I have mostly depended on apt-get so will I get the right firefox version for orca? and should I do apt-get install gnome-orca for the latest version of orca or is it needed to be compiled from source? I also get the impression that espeak works better with orca as far as the responsiveness is concerned. if that is so can some one give me some steps to get espeak working with orca. I don't have espeak running on my machine right now but I tested it on windows and it seams to be very responsive. thanks, Krishnakant. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
OT getting files added to a Ubuntu package
Hi. I recently noticed there wasn't a way for speechd-up to start automatically. I created a udev rule to start speechd-up in daemon mode. What is the procedure to get this rule included in the speechd-up package? Thanks in advance for information. Kenny -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: help needed
Hi. You didn't say what message you are getting from Orca. Unless you start some apps, or tell Gnome to switch focus to a desktop or panel, you won't hear anything from Orca except Welcome to Orca switching to focus tracking mode. Kenny -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: I need a program
Hi. Have you tried dict? Kenny -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Please provide some updated details.
Hi. I believe you should stick to 6.10 and not try to get Gnome accessibility working on earlier versions of Ubuntu. If I remember, 6.06 is running Gnome 2.14. There were several accessibility issues that were fixed in Gnome 2.16. Kenny -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: problem with orca and sound after installation
Hi. In a terminal or the console try the following: amixer set Master 29 on amixer set PCM 31 on On my sblive, those commands set master to 29 and unmute it. The second command does the same for the PCM device. Once you have sound working again, you might want to go to the sounds preferences and make sure your desktop sounds are enabled. Hope this helps. Kenny On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 06:16:40PM +0100, Simone Dal Maso wrote: Hi, I installed Ubuntu 6.10 just yesterday. I made it alone without problems, using orca in conjunction with my display braille mdv mb408s, supported by Brltty. So now? The problem is that I've no more any sounds! The first time I rebooted the pc I hear a little sound from my sound blaster live, then I login into ubuntu and Orca starts properly speaking. But now, all sounds are mute! So I tried to open a console and digit: asoundconf list to see if there are more than 1 audiocard installed, but the system tells me only the word live! That is my sb live. Is there a mode to check volumes? I can use only display braille in text mode or with some difficult also in gnome environment but without voice, so... if there are commands that can check and modify volumes please tell them to me! Thanks in advance. --- avast! Antivirus: In partenza messaggio pulito. Virus Database (VPS): 000718-0, 27/02/2007 Controllato il: 27/02/2007 18.16.42 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Herd 4: Cannot start Orca because it cannot connect to the Desktop.
Hi. You didn't say how you started Orca after setup. If you started it in a text console, you will get that error. Gdm won't let apps started in the console connect to it's display. Use alt-f2 from within your gnome session to start ORca. Kenny -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: is there a way to change the volume
Hi. The volume is still on the top panelt to the left of the clock There was a time in Feisty when the volume wasn't accessible, but that was recently fixed. Kenny -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: openoffice
Hi. apt-get remove package will remove package. However, you will need to be careful. Open Office is closely integrated in Ubuntu's Gnome. Removing it will leave you with a broken gnome. Make sure to notice all the packages apt-get removes so you can install everything again. Kenny -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Potential issue when rebuilding gnome-speech under feisty.
Hi. I rebuild gnome-speech after every release to make sure my Commercial synth drivers are updated. My experience is not building a drever like speech-dispatcher or espeak isn't a problem. The origional driver doesn't get deleted when I install my locally built version. Kenny -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Problems with Ubuntu Espeak 1.19 package?
. I can varify your first problem. The answer to your second problem is to install the libespeak-dev package. Remember, Debian based distros ship the headers for a package in a name with the -dev ending. Kenny -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: lsr
Hi. On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 03:47:27PM +1100, Luke Yelavich wrote: Is that an official release, or from svn? -- Luke Yelavich It is the CVS version. I haven't updated lsr to svn yet. Based on the dates in the Changelog, it was from 12/27/2006. Although I've tried it, I don't run it very often. It isn't as useful in gnome-terminal as Orca. Since I still use console apps for several things, I prefer Orca for daily screen reading use. Kenny -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: lsr
Hi. On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 10:11:10PM -0600, mike coulombe wrote: Hi, I tried lsr on the computer I just put ubuntu on, and it still doesn't work. Has anyone else been able to get it to work in feisty. Is there another package I have to install to make it work. Mike. I do have lsr working in Feisty, but I built it from source. Kenny -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
building libvte9 with debug symbols
Hi. I'm having a really bad crash with gnome-terminal. In order to figure out the problem, I need a version of libvte with debugging symbols. Could someone please point me to information on how to modify the Ubuntu package to create a dbg version? I've used apt-get source libvte9 to get the Ubuntu source. I've looked at debian/rules, but I don't see any obvious way to stop the build process from stripping the binary. Thanks in advance. Kenny -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: gnome-terminal crash in Feisty
Hi. On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 07:48:07AM +, Padraig O'Briain wrote: We need to know what the calls in libvte are. Padraig Is this better? Let me know what else I need to send, and I'll be happy to get it. Kenny Program received signal SIGABRT, Aborted. [Switching to Thread -1227127104 (LWP 17968)] 0xb7efc410 in ?? () (gdb) bt #0 0xb7efc410 in ?? () #1 0xbf8182cc in ?? () #2 0x0006 in ?? () #3 0x4630 in ?? () #4 0xb74d0df0 in raise () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 #5 0xb74d2641 in abort () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 #6 0xb761f64a in g_logv () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 #7 0xb761f689 in g_log () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 #8 0xb761e249 in g_malloc () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 #9 0xb7d2b1aa in vte_terminal_accessible_get_text (text=0x83d56a0, start_offset=807, end_offset=808) at /home/kenny/src/vte/vte-0.15.0/./src/vteaccess.c:982 #10 0xb7d2b64d in vte_terminal_accessible_get_text_somewhere (text=0x83d56a0, offset=807, boundary_type=ATK_TEXT_BOUNDARY_LINE_START, direction=direction_current, start_offset=0xbf818a24, end_offset=0xbf818a20) at /home/kenny/src/vte/vte-0.15.0/./src/vteaccess.c:1164 #11 0xb7d2b7ad in vte_terminal_accessible_get_text_at_offset (text=0x83d56a0, offset=807, boundary_type=ATK_TEXT_BOUNDARY_LINE_START, start_offset=0xbf818a24, end_offset=0xbf818a20) at /home/kenny/src/vte/vte-0.15.0/./src/vteaccess.c:1212 #12 0xb79146ed in atk_text_get_text_at_offset () from /usr/lib/libatk-1.0.so.0 #13 0xb6bfed41 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libspi.so.0 #14 0x083d56a0 in ?? () #15 0x0327 in ?? () #16 0x0005 in ?? () #17 0xbf818a24 in ?? () #18 0xbf818a20 in ?? () #19 0x0004 in ?? () #20 0xb776d7ab in link_connection_writev () from /usr/lib/libORBit-2.so.0 #21 0xb6bf4acf in _ORBIT_skel_small_Accessibility_Text_getTextAtOffset () from /usr/lib/libspi.so.0 #22 0xb7760797 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libORBit-2.so.0 #23 0x084b4904 in ?? () #24 0xbf818b90 in ?? () #25 0xbf818b70 in ?? () #26 0xbf818c08 in ?? () #27 0xbf818d1c in ?? () #28 0xb6bfecc1 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libspi.so.0 #29 0xbf818aa8 in ?? () #30 0xb7766905 in ORBit_OAObject_invoke () from /usr/lib/libORBit-2.so.0 Backtrace stopped: frame did not save the PC -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list
Re: gnome-terminal crash in Feisty
Hi. On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 03:30:51PM +, Padraig O'Briain wrote: The number of bytes which g_malloc() is trying to allocate would be useful. If the number if normal then it suggest that you have run out of virtual memory. If it is abnormal it suggest a bug in the code. Padraig The system still has 230 meg of unused swap space according to top. Will I need to install the debug version of glib to get this info, or should I use some gdb command? Thanks for all your help in solving this problem. Kenny -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
gnome-terminal crash in Feisty
Hi. I am having a strange problem using gnome-terminal in Feisty. Gnome-terminal crashes with no error dialog. Then it crashes, all terminal sessions close. The crash is random, but it seems to happen when I use a Orca review key. Gnome-terminal is at version 2.16.1-0ubuntu1 Libvte9 is at version 1:0.15.0-0ubuntu1 The only other information I can provide is my .xsession-errors file. If there's anything I can do to provide more information, please let me know and I'll do it. Thanks in advance. Kenny /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: Registering your session with wtmp and utmp /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: running: /usr/X11R6/bin/sessreg -a -w /var/log/wtmp -u /var/run/utmp -x /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xservers -h -l :0 kenny /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup... Xlib: extension XEVIE missing on display :0.0. Bonobo accessibility support initialized GTK Accessibility Module initialized SESSION_MANAGER=local/spot:/tmp/.ICE-unix/4838 GTK Accessibility Module initialized ** (gnome-session:4838): WARNING **: Host name lookup failure on localhost. GTK Accessibility Module initialized GTK Accessibility Module initialized Bonobo accessibility support initialized Bonobo accessibility support initialized GTK Accessibility Module initialized Bonobo accessibility support initialized GTK Accessibility Module initialized GTK Accessibility Module initialized Bonobo accessibility support initialized GTK Accessibility Module initialized Bonobo accessibility support initialized Initializing gnome-mount extension GTK Accessibility Module initialized Bonobo accessibility support initialized ** (gnome-cups-icon:4964): WARNING **: IPP request failed with status 1280 ** (gnome-cups-icon:4964): WARNING **: IPP request failed with status 1280 GTK Accessibility Module initialized Bonobo accessibility support initialized evolution-alarm-notify-Message: Setting timeout for 52787 1168300800 1168248013 evolution-alarm-notify-Message: Mon Jan 8 18:00:00 2007 evolution-alarm-notify-Message: Mon Jan 8 03:20:13 2007 GTK Accessibility Module initialized ** Message: drive = 0 ** Message: volume = 0 ** Message: drive = 0 ** Message: volume = 0 ** Message: drive = 0 ** Message: volume = 0 ** Message: drive = 0 ** Message: volume = 0 ** Message: drive = 0 ** Message: volume = 0 ** Message: drive = 0 ** Message: volume = 0 (gnome-panel:4932): Gtk-WARNING **: gtk_widget_size_allocate(): attempt to allocate widget with width -3 and height 24 anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey ** (gnome-cups-icon:4964): WARNING **: Could not start the printer tray icon, because the CUPS server could not be contacted. anykey anykey anykey anykey GTK Accessibility Module initialized Bonobo accessibility support initialized anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey Window manager warning: Log level 8: atk_relation_set_get_n_relations: assertion `ATK_IS_RELATION_SET (set)' failed anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey (gnome-terminal:5383): Vte-WARNING **: No handler for control sequence `device-control-string' defined. anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey
Re: espeak and orca
Hi. The problem I have with festival is it's slow responsiveness. Normally, I use espeak with the speech-dispatcher gnome-speech driver. This driver doesn't support the read to end command, so I either switch to festival when I want to read an entire document, or use the direct speech-dispatcher backend for Orca. Kenny On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 05:56:04PM +0100, Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote: You currently need speech-dispatcher to use eSpeak with Orca, and there are some instructions here: http://live.gnome.org/Orca/SpeechDispatcher Gilles is working on a gnome-speech driver for eSpeak though which will be a more robust solution (until SD and Orca support matures anyway). We are currently evaluating whay technical solutions to use for the future so we are *very* interested in feedback about peoples user experiences. * What is the exact problem with Festival, the speed of speech of lack of responsiveness? * For those who have eSpeak working (which option did you use the experimental Orca support or the gnome-speech-SD bridge?) -- how is it working? Any issues? * When we have the gnome-speech eSpeak driver working how does that compare with the other setups? etc. Henrik -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: espeak and orca
Hi. Yes, they are both available in the Orca preferences. Both aren't being used at the same time, but you can switch any time you want. Kenny On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 10:40:50PM +0100, Krister Ekstrom wrote: On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 13:04 -0600, Kenny Hitt wrote: Normally, I use espeak with the speech-dispatcher gnome-speech driver. This driver doesn't support the read to end command, so I either switch to festival when I want to read an entire document, or use the direct speech-dispatcher backend for Orca. Can you actually use both drivers at the same time? I thought it was one or the other and installing them both would mean conflict. How does one choose between them? I guess they get visible in the orca prefs in some way, right? -- /Krister -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: gnome-terminal crash in Feisty
Hi. Thanks to help from Luke, I was able to get the following from gdb. Program received signal SIGABRT, Aborted. [Switching to Thread -1226291520 (LWP 15468)] 0xb7fba410 in ?? () (gdb) bt #0 0xb7fba410 in ?? () #1 0xbfa25e6c in ?? () #2 0x0006 in ?? () #3 0x3c6c in ?? () #4 0xb759cdf0 in raise () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 #5 0xb759e641 in abort () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 #6 0xb76eb4b2 in g_logv () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 #7 0xb76eb4e9 in g_log () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 #8 0xb76ea0b9 in g_malloc () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 #9 0xb7dedbe7 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libvte.so.9 #10 0xffd2 in ?? () #11 0xb7e70ae8 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libvte.so.9 #12 0x in ?? () I noticed gdb didn't find debug symbols for some of the libs linked to gnome-terminal. Is this enough info, or do I need to do more? Kenny On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 03:48:37PM +, Padraig O'Briain wrote: I think that a stack trace for gnome-terminal process will be necessary. Padraig Kenny Hitt wrote: Hi. I am having a strange problem using gnome-terminal in Feisty. Gnome-terminal crashes with no error dialog. Then it crashes, all terminal sessions close. The crash is random, but it seems to happen when I use a Orca review key. Gnome-terminal is at version 2.16.1-0ubuntu1 Libvte9 is at version 1:0.15.0-0ubuntu1 The only other information I can provide is my .xsession-errors file. If there's anything I can do to provide more information, please let me know and I'll do it. Thanks in advance. Kenny /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: Registering your session with wtmp and utmp /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: running: /usr/X11R6/bin/sessreg -a -w /var/log/wtmp -u /var/run/utmp -x /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xservers -h -l :0 kenny /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup... Xlib: extension XEVIE missing on display :0.0. Bonobo accessibility support initialized GTK Accessibility Module initialized SESSION_MANAGER=local/spot:/tmp/.ICE-unix/4838 GTK Accessibility Module initialized ** (gnome-session:4838): WARNING **: Host name lookup failure on localhost. GTK Accessibility Module initialized GTK Accessibility Module initialized Bonobo accessibility support initialized Bonobo accessibility support initialized GTK Accessibility Module initialized Bonobo accessibility support initialized GTK Accessibility Module initialized GTK Accessibility Module initialized Bonobo accessibility support initialized GTK Accessibility Module initialized Bonobo accessibility support initialized Initializing gnome-mount extension GTK Accessibility Module initialized Bonobo accessibility support initialized ** (gnome-cups-icon:4964): WARNING **: IPP request failed with status 1280 ** (gnome-cups-icon:4964): WARNING **: IPP request failed with status 1280 GTK Accessibility Module initialized Bonobo accessibility support initialized evolution-alarm-notify-Message: Setting timeout for 52787 1168300800 1168248013 evolution-alarm-notify-Message: Mon Jan 8 18:00:00 2007 evolution-alarm-notify-Message: Mon Jan 8 03:20:13 2007 GTK Accessibility Module initialized ** Message: drive = 0 ** Message: volume = 0 ** Message: drive = 0 ** Message: volume = 0 ** Message: drive = 0 ** Message: volume = 0 ** Message: drive = 0 ** Message: volume = 0 ** Message: drive = 0 ** Message: volume = 0 ** Message: drive = 0 ** Message: volume = 0 (gnome-panel:4932): Gtk-WARNING **: gtk_widget_size_allocate(): attempt to allocate widget with width -3 and height 24 anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey ** (gnome-cups-icon:4964): WARNING **: Could not start the printer tray icon, because the CUPS server could not be contacted. anykey anykey anykey anykey GTK Accessibility Module initialized Bonobo accessibility support initialized anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey Window manager warning: Log level 8: atk_relation_set_get_n_relations: assertion `ATK_IS_RELATION_SET (set)' failed anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey anykey
Re: SV: lsr and speakup
Hi. I only use modprobe speakup_sftsyn to use speakup for software speech. I'm wondering why you also modprobe speakupmain? Thanks in advance. Kenny On Mon, Dec 25, 2006 at 05:47:09PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. What speech synth will you be using? Assuming you will be using speech dispatcher the command line will look something like this: modprobe speakupmain modprobe speakup_sftsyn speechd-up all as root. Hope this helps. /Krister -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: lsr and speakup
Hi. Someone has already answered your question, but you don't seem to understand the difference in Linux interfaces. Speakup will only work in a text console. Gnome-terminal is a graphical console, not text. True, you use Gnome-terminal to run text apps, but you are running in Gnome. Orca gives very good results reading text apps running in a Gnome-terminal, so I don't understand your need for speakup. Kenny On Sun, Dec 24, 2006 at 05:32:42PM -0600, mike coulombe wrote: Hi, two questions, has anyone gotten lsr to work in feisty. Also if speakup is in the kernel it doesn't come up when I try to use it in gnome terminal. What is the command to start it. Thanks Mike. X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0662-1, 12/24/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
gnome-terminal crashing
Hi. It appears I have a problem with the gnome-terminal app in Feisty. For some reason, gnome-terminal will crash. I don't get any crash report, and I still haven't found a way to make it happen consistantly. When the crash happens, all terminal sessions close and I am returned to what ever app is still open in my Gnome session. I would like to know if anyone else is seeing my problem. Also, is there something I can try so I can get a back trace or a crash report? Thanks in advance. Kenny -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Ubuntu Release Schedule (was Re: need some info)
Hi. Although it isn't the latest speakup, I am using 2.6.19 with speakup. Linux spot 2.6.19-7-generic #2 SMP Wed Nov 29 04:57:58 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux You are right about breaking Gnome. For some reason, gdm isn't starting my Gnome session. I have to run startx in a console to use Gnome. On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 10:48:21PM +1100, Luke Yelavich wrote: On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 10:47:30PM EST, Luke Yelavich wrote: Thats all you have to do, but please be mindful that things can, and sometimes do breakk, particularly X and GNOME, which could leave you with an inaccessible system. Do so at your own risk. Oh yeah, and there is no speakup in the feisty kernel yet. -- Luke Yelavich GPG key: 0xD06320CE (http://www.themuso.com/themuso-gpg-key.txt) Email MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
best option for web accessibility
Hi. On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 09:35:32AM -0900, Terrence van Ettinger wrote: And one more question, somewhat related since the question may well come up. Since firefox is not really accessible, what is the best option for web browsing with accessibility under Ubuntu? The best options are elinks or install the Fire Vox extention for Firefox. Kenny -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: eSpeak and Screen readers?
Hi. Speech-dispatcher has a config file to use espeak and the generic speech-dispatcher module. In Ubuntu, you will just install speech-dispatcher and espeak. Then, edit the /etc/speechd.conf file and uncomment the line to add the espeak-generic module. Change the default output module to espeak-generic and restart speech-dispatcher. You will probably need to make other changes to speechd.comf and espeak-generic.conf for your language, but I don't know what should be changed since I use English. Both files are well commented, so you should have no trouble finding the needed lines to change. Once you have speech-dispatcher working with espeak, you can tell orca to use the gnome-speech speech-dispatcher driver. To get things working with speakup, install the speechd-up package. Hope this helps. Kenny -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: eSpeak and Screen readers?
Hi. You can use espeak as the synth with any screen reader that has speech-dispatcher support. The 2 screan readers I know of that can use speech-dispatcher are speakup and orca. Hope this helps. Kenny On Mon, Oct 30, 2006 at 09:31:24PM -0200, Cleverson wrote: Hello all First, thanks Terrence who answered my previous question regarding access to terminal apps in Ubuntu using Orca. Now I'd like to know if it's already possible to use eSpeak as a soft synth with some screen reader, or if it will be soon. I'm helping to develope a Brazilian Portuguese voice for eSpeak. Me and brazilian people in general will certainly take much advantage of it when it's available and manageable by a screen reader under Linux. Many thanks Cleverson -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: anyway to stop orca from speaking.
Hi. I can think of two ways. You can press insert-s to silence speech system wide in Orca. Insert-s again will turn speech back on again. You can also just minimize the terminal window running the dist-upgrade. When it is minimized, it won't speak. Hope this helps. Kenny On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 02:38:24PM -0500, mike coulombe wrote: Hi, when doing a dist upgrade through apt-get, is there a way to keep orca from speaking all the time. Mike. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Almost ashamed to ask but ...
Hi. Try installing gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3 Kenny On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 03:23:52PM +0200, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hey folks, Krister here with another little query for you. I'm trying to play an .mp3 file by selecting it on the Gnome desktop and then hitting the enter key. But instead of nice music, a dialog comes up saying that Totem can't play this type of file since i don't have a decoder for .mp3 installed and my question is what package i should install? I've searched for mp3 decoders, but with no luck at all, probably because i don't know the propper name of the package, so could anyone please shed some light on this? TIA -- /Krister -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
building elinks with javascript support breaks Gnome
Hi. Since Firefox accessibility still has a ways to go, I do most of my web browsing with elinks. Unfortunately, the Ubuntu elinks package has javascript support disabled. When I try to install the libmozjs-dev package needed to get javascript support in elinks, aptitude wants to remove large parts of gnome to satisfy dependencies. Would it be possible to enable javascript support in the Ubuntu elinks package? If not, does anyone know a way to install the libmozjs-dev package so I can build elinks from source without breaking Gnome? Kenny -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: ho do I see file size.
Hi. If you mean in nautilus, it is in the view menu. Kenny On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 01:52:56PM -0500, mike coulombe wrote: Hi, at one time I was able to hear the file size and date. I think I had to change it to list view. However I don't see this in the menu settings anymore. Has anyone else done this. Mike. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: I have two questions.
Hi. The volume control is the icon just to the left of the clock on the top pannel. Orca reads it as icon. You will have to edit /etc/apt/sources.list as root and uncomment the lInes for universe. Although you can do it in a Gnome session, it won't be easy. The best way to edit files in /etc as root is to use the text console and either speakup or brltty as your screen reader. Kenny On Sun, Oct 01, 2006 at 10:43:16AM -0500, mike coulombe wrote: Hi, I asked about this before, but maybe the message didn't get out. 1, How do I change the volume in edgy. I don't find a control for this. 2, I am having a hard time trying to enable universe. The following is listed for dapper. Adding Extra Repositories X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0639-4, 09/29/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean To enable the extra repositories: Open System-Administration-Software Properties . Select Add To enable the Universe repository, check the Community Maintained (Universe) button. [Note] Adding this repository will mean that the majority of the Free Software universe will be available to install on your system. This software is supported by a carefully selected group of volunteers within the Ubuntu Community, but is not supported by the core Ubuntu development team and may not include security In edgy there is no software properties. I tried to edit the file, but it is read only. I tried to open the file with administration privileges in terminal and orca stopped speaking. Has anyone been able to do this in edgy. Thanks Mike. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: working with apt-get
Hi. Did you remember to uncomment the lines for universe in your sources.list? Kenny On Tue, Sep 19, 2006 at 11:38:38PM -0500, mike coulombe wrote: Hi, I don't know how I did it. But on my computer apt-get got all packages I ask for, for example, apt-get install links. I installed on another drive and now this doesn't work. Is there some setting I changed to make this work. It didn't work at first on the old drive either, but some how it started to work after I installed some software. Has anyone else played with this. Mike. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: need help with dpkg
Hi. Trsudo apt-get -f install If that doesn't work, maybe dpkg -i package_name You will have to be in the same dir as package_name for that command to find the package. Kenny On Tue, Sep 19, 2006 at 12:47:30PM -0500, mike coulombe wrote: Hi, does anyone know the commands for dpkg. I was installing emac and it got interrupted. Now if I run apt-get, it says dpkg has to be run manually to fix the problem. Thanks for any help Mike. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
