Re: New Mailing List Signee
Hello Arielle, welcome to the list. Probably your best place to start learning about Orca is by checking out the Orca Wiki at: live.gnome.org/Orca. There you will find lots of information on getting and using the latest orca as well as working with the nightly builds of Firefox. Hope this helps. Mike Mabuhay! I came across Joining the Ubuntu Accessibility Team thread in the Ubuntu Forum and from there signed up to this mailing list. My name is Arielle, from the Philippines, and I am a freelance web designer who is also connected to my country's web accessibility group (PWAG, http://www.pwag.org). I have been using Ubuntu exclusively since the Edgy release last year and this is the first and only Linux distribution that I've tried to date. But novice as I am, I would like to have the opportunity to test Ubuntu's accessibility features, primarily those concerning web browsing and other related operations for three reasons: First and the more self-serving one is of course, for providing myself a testing tool for my work. Second is for providing PWAG added knowledge on accessible software since most of us in our group have only heard of JAWS. (I try to use ORCA when I can though and I'm anxious to find out how well it will work with the new Firefox.) And most importantly, to give a small contribution of time and effort to the Ubuntu community where from I have benefited much in the last several months. Um... I guess that's it for now? I hope you'll take me. =) Cheers! Arielle (I'm a guy, by the way) -- Arielle B Cruz www.abcruz.com I am a Man of Truth. I am a Free Human Person. I am a Peacemaker. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: email with evolution
Hello Keith, Having now got ubuntu 7.4 installed, I am wondering if evolution mail is reccommended for e-mail. Evolution is what many of us are using with success. In order to view messages you will have to enable caret mode from the view menu. If you select your inbox from the folder tree and then shift+tab twice you should be in the list of messages in your inbox. Hope this helps. Mike -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
RE: call for braille device testing
Hello Henrik, the problems I reported a couple weeks ago still exist. 1. When I boot feisty with my USB braille display connected brltty still attempts to start twice initially giving an error which I have to press any key on the display to dismiss. 2. Orca is still not able to connect to brlapi and display braille. As both of these issues are already documented in bugs filed against feisty I won't bother with more details here but I just wanted to let you know that at least in my environments braille is still not in a particularly useful state. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Henrik Nilsen Omma Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 4:54 AM To: Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: call for braille device testing Hello! We have recently implemented the braille-support spec i Feisty which aims to provide default support for USB braille devices and relatively simple configuration of serial and bluetooth devices. If you have a USB device is should just come up working on a Live CD or installed Feisty system (provided a screen reader is active to feed it text). If you boot the Live CD with F5+4 you will get a braille configuration script for usb, serial or bluetooth devices (this needs documentation to be useful). The script can be run from a terminal too with 'brltty-setup'. Expect a few changes in this script soon as well. So, if you have a braille device, please help us test! Many of the people who have contributed to this don't have access to braille displays so we need input from others. Please be patient with the process, we a expect a fair number of things to not work at the start. We will make updated scripts available and it would be great if people could test those before we put it on the CD. See spec: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/Specs/BrailleSupport Henrik -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
RE: Problems with Ubuntu Espeak 1.19 package?
Hi Henrik, I don't know about the details of this, but espeak has now made it into main and installs fine here. After an update on Feisty the espeak driver for gnome-speech becomes available in the Orca selection box. It seems as though all voices have not yet been uploaded. The ones I've noticed are the UK female and the English-test-us voice. The U.S. voice would be nice to have as it does sound a little more like a U.S. speaker. Jonathan is really responsive to requests for improvement so perhaps it should be included and improved as changes are made. We still have tweak gnome-speech or Orca to make it run espeak by default from the Live CD. This will be a nice improvement. Thanks Mike -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
RE: Problems with Ubuntu Espeak 1.19 package?
Ah, perhaps we've missed a dependency on espeak-data. I would not have noticed since I installed it from universe earlier. Actually, I had installed from universe as well. I think that all voices just haven't been pulled into espeak data. Mike -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Orca on laptops.
Couldn't this be just configurable? Yes but we'd really like to offer a default to help users get started more quickly. Mike -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Very important question, still can't get openoffice work with orca
Hello, this is probably the 4th time I am pointing this problem about openoffice. I can't get the fonts attribute read out in openoffice word processor and can't know what attributes or alignment I have changed/ set. what is the problem. am I doing some thing wrong? is it a known bug and in the process of being fixt? This issue is currently being worked on by the Openoffice team and is being tracked by the orca team. Mike -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: trouble with orca keystrokes when orca is run from a vertualterminal
Hi all, Over the past hour, another big Ubuntu update was released. I just tested this again after downloading that update, and at least on my system, it appears that the problem has gone away as suddenly as it appeared. After updating and rebooting I'm still seeing the problem. Mike -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
latest gaim can not get focus in edgy
Hi all, I have successfully been using gaim on an edgy install for the last several days. This morning I pulled the latest set up updates which contained gaim 2.0 beta3.1 as well as gaim data. After the updates I can now start gaim and it is running but I am not able to give it focus. I have confirmed that the gaim process is indeed running. I had this problem several weeks ago pre not1 but haven't seen it in quite a while. Can anyone else confirm this behavior after updating today? I'm assuming that it is a setting in one of the configuration xml files in the .gaim directory but will need to look into this. Mike -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Serious accessibility issue in Gnome 2.15.
Hi Al, I'm running Edgy with Gnome 2.15, and am experiencing major weirdness in terms of accessibility when attempting to use it with Orca. I am also running the latest ubuntu edgy with the latest orca and finding similar problems. I've also reproduced our problems running gnopernicus. It seems as though there is a serious problem with this version of gnome 2.15 which is independent of orca. 1. Focus in gaim seems to be messed up. I was able to create one account, a freenode irc account. But now, after doing that, I can never seem to bring focus back to the main buddy list window, as for whatever reason, it doesn't seem to appear in the alt tab order. I am also able to reproduce this problem which I actually reported at the beginning of last week. It happens with both orca from CVS head and gnopernicus. 2. Very strange things are happening in gnome terminal. Orca tracks live events well enough, but if I attempt to use flat review, it's all over the place. The read current line command seems to start at the top of the window, rather than at the last location of the cursor. Another oddity is that not all of the window is accessible via flat review. in other words, if my screen fills up with data, flat review stops before actually reaching the last line on the screen. 3. Open office writer is completely inaccessible. Orca won't even read the menu bar or the help dialog. If I attempt flat review, all I get is panel. I am also unable to read content with openoffice with this version of the desktop. If this is a general desktop problem and not related to the particular edgy we are running this will be a serious regression from gnome 2.14. Mike -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
problem with gaim in latest edgy
Hi all, I am running an up to date edgy with orca. I'm noticing a problem when I start gaim. I start gaim and add my accounts and close the account dialog. At this point gaim seems to minimize to the panel. I know that the gaim process is still running but can find no way to give it focus. It is probably still visible but because the panels don't work well from the keyboard I am unable to find it. Is anyone else running edgy to confirm this? I can find no way to make gaim come up with focus now. thanks Mike -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: [Spec sudo-admin-atspi] GUI admin tools should work with AT-SPI
Hi Henrik, I believe this bug should help solve this problem when it is addressed hopefully for gnome2.16. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163132 Mike Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote: Specification changed by Henrik Nilsen Omma: Definition Status: Drafting = Pending Approval Whiteboard changed to: kamion 2006-07-05: review ok with minor edits mdz 2006-07-05: design for focus grab prevention is indefinite; please take a decision about how to handle it and document in the spec heno 2006-07-05: fixed -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
RE: Experiences with live cd 20060429.
Hi Luke, This might be a problem. I'll build a test CD with my fixes included later today and give it a whirl to confirm this for myself. If you build a test CD and it works, any chance you could post it some where for a few of us to try? Thanks much Mike -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Network configuration from the console
Hi all, this might be somewhat off-topic but perhaps not. As I mentioned the other day with the default user configuration it is not possible to read many of the admin tools with a screen reader such as orca. I am wondering: Is it possible to configure a wireless network from the console? I'm connecting to a WEP encrypted WiFi network that is already connected via wired LAN connection. thanks for any ideas. Mike -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
RE: [Bug 26995] Re: brltty: Does not support USB for Alva devices - please upgrade
Hi Luke, After checking both the dapper version and the Debian Sid version of brltty, it appears that the newest version in Debian is a new upstream release. I am wondering whether this would simply be better to sync to the latest Debian release? This seems logical it would also make sense to update the configuration script to include the new configuration script to include the latest supported displays and devices. If you want me to test any packages just let me know. Thanks for the quick response. Also, thanks for creating the gnome-orca package. It's really great to see people trying and giving feedback on where we are so far. Mike -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
