Re: java-atk-wrapper in ubuntu 20.04

2020-10-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello,

Halim Sahin, le sam. 17 oct. 2020 09:55:45 +0200, a ecrit:
> there seems to be a problem with atkwrapper in Ubuntu focal.
> When I run a java application orca reads nothing and the app itself seems to
> be crashed.

Which application is this?

> Is this a known problem?

No, otherwise it would either be fixed, or the package would have been
dropped out of release-critical-bug-ness.

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Re: How is Ubuntu-mate 18.04 enabling QT accessibility?

2018-08-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Dave Hunt, le mer. 29 août 2018 18:12:11 -0400, a ecrit:
> I've looked in ~/.profile and /etc/profile.d/mate-qt.sh  and cannot find where
> the accessibility switches are enabled; I'd like to make this access work on a
> machine running Arch. 

This is probably in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90qt-a11y which would do:

QT_ACCESSIBILITY=1

export QT_ACCESSIBILITY

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Re: Accessibility for person with a motor disability

2018-03-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Alex ARNAUD, on mar. 20 mars 2018 17:33:25 +0100, wrote:
> Is Dasher should be configured to replace the keyboard when I open a text
> edition field?

IIRC that has never been implemented.  It would be a matter of making it
e.g. an ibus input method or such.

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Re: Accessibility for person with a motor disability

2018-03-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Mats L, on mar. 20 mars 2018 16:22:25 +0100, wrote:
> Unfortunately the GNU/Linux environments are badly missing a full-featured
> tailorable on-screen keyboard alternative (including switch input etc.)
> following up on the [4]GOK project since it was discontinued.

Is onboard not the continuation of GOK?

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Re: It is time for me to depart.

2017-11-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello,

Luke Yelavich, on mer. 08 nov. 2017 12:46:30 +1100, wrote:
> It is with an extremely heavy heart that I write to you all to announce my 
> departure from free and open source software development.

Uh :/

I'm very sorry about this.  Of course I understand your decision, and
understand how difficult it must be for you; you will for sure be
missed.

> I am sure I will return one day, with renewed motivation, enthusiasm, and a 
> desire to contribute again.

I definitely hope so, and you'll always be welcome back!

Cheers and all the best for your coming projects,
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Accessibility topic of LSM 2017

2017-03-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
LSM/RMLL 2017
 17th Libre Software Meeting
  July 1-7, 2017
  Saint-Etienne, France
  http://2017.rmll.info/
  Call For Papers and Participation
   limited to accessibility topic
 [we apologize for duplicate receipt of this message]
 Last call before deadline : march *31st* 2017


Sharing of knowledge, freedom of information, community spirit,
exchange of ideas, technological progress: every year the Libre
Software Meeting (LSM) follows the Libre philosophy.

RMLL/LSM is a non-commercial series of conferences, round tables
discussions and practical workshops based on Libre/Free Software and
its uses. Its aim is to provide a platform for Libre/Free Software
users, developers and stakeholders.

Access to LSM is free of charge and open to everyone. The conference
will be held in Beauvais from July 1st to July 7, 2017.

We hereby announce the opportunity to submit papers for selection by
the technical review committee for the RMLL/LSM 2017.

This year again we would like to put a particular emphasis on
accessibility on the whole RMLL/LSM event. We will have our usual
workshop, as described below, but we would like to have accessibility
talks held in other sessions too, if possible all of them, as was
achieved in 2010 in Bordeaux.

We thus invite you to submit your accessibility talks to various
topics, so as to broaden the audience of accessibility questions.

Concerning our dedicated accessibility workshop, to better target the
various exchanges that will be taking place, the programme committee
of the accessibility workshop proposes several kinds of meetings:

- "Solution" meetings, with conferences  and round tables to present
solutions dedicated to previous areas.

- "State of the art" conferences between practitioners, developers,
scientists and users to discuss about what exists according to the
specific needs of users, what works well or a little less well,
to talk about approaches...

- "Technical" presentations between developers and scientists. This
will allow initiation of exchanges between communities that do not
necessarily have the opportunity to meet and will maybe lead to new
collaborations or projects.

Finally, a workshop area will be available to try out and exchange
tools presented by their authors or by seasoned users of those
solutions.


Information on workshops from last event is available on
- https://2015.rmll.info/accessibilite

Information on the previous global RMLL/LSM emphasis on accessibility
in 2010 is available on
- http://2010.rmll.info/+-Accessibilite,2-+.html


You will be able to attend conferences  on other related issues
such as "System Administration" (like Nagios, GLPI, Cfengine,
...), "Development" (like NoSQL, Lucene, GCC, ...), "Law" (like
Licenses,OpenData, FSF, ...), "Internet" (WebGL, Jabber, Typo3, ...),
... Conferences from last year are available on :
- https://2015.rmll.info/conferences-et-ateliers

If you are interested in participating, please have a look at the
topics presentation on
https://2017.rmll.info/pages/themes.html

and submit your presentation at:
https://2017.rmll.info/cfp/talk/new

Please feel free to share this information with others people who
may be interested. We welcome your participation and input and look
forward for a valuable meeting. 

Deadlines =

The following dates are important if you wish to participate to the
call for papers.

Abstract submission: no later than 31st of March 2017

Submission guidelines 

Speakers should submit an abstract in English or French ; about 400
words, and in 2 languages if possible. If accepted, this abstract
will be published on the website.

Submissions should be submitted via this form:
https://2017.rmll.info/cfp/talk/new

Submissions should also include the following:
  
  * Contact information and Geographical location of presenter
  (country of origin/passport).
  * A brief biography.
  * Any significant presentation and/or educational
  experience/background.
  * For technical topics: Reason why this material is innovative,
  significant or an useful tutorial.
  * Optionally, any outlines or samples of prepared materials.
  * Information whether the submission has already been presented,
  and if so, where.

Personal information will be used exclusively for the sole purpose
of the RMLL/LSM committee and shall not be shared with third parties.

If the paper is not accepted for the main session, it may be accepted
for a short-form or "lightning talk" session.

Travel Assistance 

Non-commercial and based upon volunteer work, RMLL/LSM are events with
limited resources. However, speakers who exhibit particular need may
receive a refund for their transportation charges at the discretion
of the selection committee. If you know the estimated cost of the
transportation, providing this will make it easier for 

Re: accessible EFI?

2016-05-28 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello,

Eric Oyen, on Fri 27 May 2016 22:30:41 -0700, wrote:
> does anyone happen to know if there is a project to make an accessible EFI?

I had discussed about it with an Intel tiano core developer, he said
that technically it's very possible, as an EFI module. It "just" needs
people working on it...

> Also, does anyone happen to know what programming environment is used to 
> compile a working EFI image?

Well, an assembler and a C compiler I guess :)

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Re: how can I get a beep sound when GRUB appears

2015-09-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Milton, le Thu 17 Sep 2015 18:27:37 +0200, a écrit :
> #GRUB_INIT_TUNE="480 440 1"
> 
> So I did uncomment the line and ran update-grub.
> But still no beep. Do I miss something?

That should be it.  You can check in your /boot/grub/grub.cfg that the
"play 480 440 1" command appears, and that there is
/boot/grub/i386-pc/play.mod.  If so, then perhaps your machine simply
doesn't have a standard PC speaker :/

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Re: is there a development project for the Braille Sense?

2015-08-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Luke Yelavich, le Mon 31 Aug 2015 10:03:01 +1000, a écrit :
 On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 07:52:00AM AEST, Eric Oyen wrote:
  Is there a development project to compile a running version for the braille 
  sense U2? I am trying to find out what ARM chip they are using and a few 
  other specifications. The device currently runs on windows CE 6 (ugh!) and 
  only has a few apps developed for that execution environment.  If at all 
  possible, I would like to compile and make a full firmware installation 
  image that would boot up on there and give me a braille supported interface.
 
 If the hardware has an Android port, then GNU/Linux would be a possibility. 
 However, if the hardware is only running Windows CE, then its highly likely 
 that it cannot run Ubuntu, since its not likely that the ARM chip supports 
 ARM v7 instructions.

Other distributions like Debian should however be runnable (armhf arch).

Samuel

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Accessibility and mobility topic of LSM 2015

2015-02-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
LSM/RMLL 2015
 16th Libre Software Meeting
  July 4-10, 2015
 Beauvais, France
   http://2015.rmll.info/
  Call For Papers and Participation
 limited to accessibility and mobility topic
 [we apologize for duplicate receipt of this message]
 Last call before deadline : march *31st* 2015


Sharing of knowledge, freedom of information, community spirit,
exchange of ideas, technological progress: every year the Libre
Software Meeting (LSM) follows the Libre philosophy.

RMLL/LSM is a non-commercial series of conferences, round tables
discussions and practical workshops based on Libre/Free Software and
its uses. Its aim is to provide a platform for Libre/Free Software
users, developers and stakeholders.

Access to LSM is free of charge and open to everyone. The conference
will be held in Montpellier from July 4 to July 10, 2015.

We hereby announce the opportunity to submit papers for selection by
the technical review committee for the RMLL/LSM 2015.

This year again we would like to put a particular emphasis on
accessibility on the whole RMLL/LSM event. We will have our usual
workshop, as described below, but we would like to have accessibility
talks held in other sessions too, if possible all of them, as was
achieved in 2010 in Bordeaux.  One of the reasons for that is that in
France, on 1st January 2015, a law entered in action to require
accessibility of all public places.  Now is thus the time to enter
in action if not done already!

We thus invite you to submit your accessibility talks to other topics
than the health topic, so as to broaden the audience of accessibility
questions.

Concerning our dedicated accessibility and mobility workshop,
to better target the various exchanges that will be taking place,
the programme committee of the accessibility and mobility workshop
proposes several kinds of meetings:

- Solution meetings, with conferences  and round tables to present
solutions dedicated to previous areas.

- State of the art conferences between practitioners, developers,
scientists and users to discuss about what exists according to the
specific needs of users, what works well or a little less well,
to talk about approaches...

- Technical presentations between developers and scientists. This
will allow initiation of exchanges between communities that do not
necessarily have the opportunity to meet and will maybe lead to new
collaborations or projects.

Finally, a workshop area will be available to try out and exchange
tools presented by their authors or by seasoned users of those
solutions.


Information on workshops from last year is available on
- https://2014.rmll.info/schedule?redline=accessibility#schedule

Information on the previous global RMLL/LSM emphasis on accessibility
in 2010 is available on
- http://2010.rmll.info/+-Accessibilite,2-+.html


You will be able to attend conferences  on other related issues
such as System Administration (like Nagios, GLPI, Cfengine,
...), Development (like NoSQL, Lucene, GCC, ...), Law (like
Licenses,OpenData, FSF, ...), Internet (WebGL, Jabber, Typo3, ...),
... Conferences from last year are available on :
- http://schedule2013.rmll.info/

If you are interested in participating, please submit your presentation
at:
https://2015.rmll.info/programme/article/appel-a-conferences

Please feel free to share this information with others people who
may be interested. We welcome your participation and input and look
forward for a valuable meeting. 

Deadlines =

The following dates are important if you wish to participate to the
call for papers.

Abstract submission: no later than 31st of March 2015

Submission guidelines 

Speakers should submit an abstract in English or French ; about 400
words, and in 2 languages if possible. If accepted, this abstract
will be published on the website.

Submissions should be submitted via this form:
https://2015.rmll.info/programme/article/appel-a-conferences

Submissions should also include the following:
  
  * Contact information and Geographical location of presenter
  (country of origin/passport).
  * A brief biography.
  * Any significant presentation and/or educational
  experience/background.
  * For technical topics: Reason why this material is innovative,
  significant or an useful tutorial.
  * Optionally, any outlines or samples of prepared materials.
  * Information whether the submission has already been presented,
  and if so, where.

Personal information will be used exclusively for the sole purpose
of the RMLL/LSM committee and shall not be shared with third parties.

If the paper is not accepted for the main session, it may be accepted
for a short-form or lightning talk session.

Travel Assistance 

Non-commercial and based upon volunteer work, RMLL/LSM are events with
limited resources. However, speakers who 

[Extended call] Accessibility and mobility topic of LSM 2014

2014-04-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello,

The call for talks for LSM has been extended up to 15th April, please
consider submitting talks!

Thanks,
Samuel

LSM/RMLL 2014
 15th Libre Software Meeting
  July 5-11, 2014
 Montpellier, France
   http://2014.rmll.info/
  Call For Papers and Participation
 limited to accessibility and mobility topic
 [we apologize for duplicate receipt of this message]
 Last call before deadline : april *15th* 2014


Sharing of knowledge, freedom of information, community spirit,
exchange of ideas, technological progress: every year the Libre
Software Meeting (LSM) follows the Libre philosophy.

RMLL/LSM is a non-commercial series of conferences, round tables
discussions and practical workshops based on Libre/Free Software and
its uses. Its aim is to provide a platform for Libre/Free Software
users, developers and stakeholders.

Access to LSM is free of charge and open to everyone. The conference
will be held in Montpellier from July 5 to July 11, 2014.

We hereby announce the opportunity to submit papers for selection by
the technical review committee for the RMLL/LSM 2014.

This year we would like to put a particular emphasis on accessibility
on the whole RMLL/LSM event. We will have our usual workshop, as
described below, but we would like to have accessibility talks held
in other sessions too, if possible all of them, as was achieved in
2010 in Bordeaux.  One of the reasons for that is that in France, on
1st January 2015, a law will enter in action to require accessibility
of all public places.  2014 is the last year to get ready for this.

We thus invite you to submit your accessibility talks to other topics
than the health topic, so as to broaden the audience of accessibility
questions.

Concerning our dedicated accessibility and mobility workshop,
to better target the various exchanges that will be taking place,
the programme committee of the accessibility and mobility workshop
proposes several kinds of meetings:

- Solution meetings, with conferences  and round tables to present
solutions dedicated to previous areas.

- State of the art conferences between practitioners, developers,
scientists and users to discuss about what exists according to the
specific needs of users, what works well or a little less well,
to talk about approaches...

- Technical presentations between developers and scientists. This
will allow initiation of exchanges between communities that do not
necessarily have the opportunity to meet and will maybe lead to new
collaborations or projects.

Finally, a workshop area will be available to try out and exchange
tools presented by their authors or by seasoned users of those
solutions.


Information on workshops from last year is available on
- 
http://schedule2013.rmll.info/programme/sante/accessibilite-autonomie-et-gestion/

Information on the previous global RMLL/LSM emphasis on accessibility
in 2010 is available on
- http://2010.rmll.info/+-Accessibilite,2-+.html


You will be able to attend conferences  on other related issues
such as System Administration (like Nagios, GLPI, Cfengine,
...), Development (like NoSQL, Lucene, GCC, ...), Law (like
Licenses,OpenData, FSF, ...), Internet (WebGL, Jabber, Typo3, ...),
... Conferences from last year are available on :
- http://schedule2013.rmll.info/

This year, LSM will have as guiding thread Free software and you, which
can be particularly suited to the accessibility and mobility topic :)

If you are interested in participating, please submit your presentation
at:
https://2014.rmll.info/Appel-a-conferences

Please feel free to share this information with others people who
may be interested. We welcome your participation and input and look
forward for a valuable meeting. 

Deadlines =

The following dates are important if you wish to participate to the
call for papers.

Abstract submission: no later than 15th of april 2014

Submission guidelines 

Speakers should submit an abstract in English or French ; about 400
words, and in 2 languages if possible. If accepted, this abstract
will be published on the website.

Submissions should be submitted via this form:
https://2014.rmll.info/Appel-a-conferences

Submissions should also include the following:
  
  * Contact information and Geographical location of presenter
  (country of origin/passport).
  * A brief biography.
  * Any significant presentation and/or educational
  experience/background.
  * For technical topics: Reason why this material is innovative,
  significant or an useful tutorial.
  * Optionally, any outlines or samples of prepared materials.
  * Information whether the submission has already been presented,
  and if so, where.

Personal information will be used exclusively for the sole purpose
of the RMLL/LSM committee and shall not be shared with third parties.

If the paper is not accepted for the 

Accessibility and mobility topic of LSM 2014

2014-02-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
   
LSM/RMLL 2014
 15th Libre Software Meeting
  July 5-11, 2014
 Montpellier, France
   http://2014.rmll.info/
  Call For Papers and Participation
 limited to accessibility and mobility topic
 [we apologize for duplicate receipt of this message]
 Last call before deadline : march *31st* 2014


Sharing of knowledge, freedom of information, community spirit,
exchange of ideas, technological progress: every year the Libre
Software Meeting (LSM) follows the Libre philosophy.

RMLL/LSM is a non-commercial series of conferences, round tables
discussions and practical workshops based on Libre/Free Software and
its uses. Its aim is to provide a platform for Libre/Free Software
users, developers and stakeholders.

Access to LSM is free of charge and open to everyone. The conference
will be held in Montpellier from July 5 to July 11, 2014.

We hereby announce the opportunity to submit papers for selection by
the technical review committee for the RMLL/LSM 2014.

This year we would like to put a particular emphasis on accessibility
on the whole RMLL/LSM event. We will have our usual workshop, as
described below, but we would like to have accessibility talks held
in other sessions too, if possible all of them, as was achieved in
2010 in Bordeaux.  One of the reasons for that is that in France, on
1st January 2015, a law will enter in action to require accessibility
of all public places.  2014 is the last year to get ready for this.

We thus invite you to submit your accessibility talks to other topics
than the health topic, so as to broaden the audience of accessibility
questions.

Concerning our dedicated accessibility and mobility workshop,
to better target the various exchanges that will be taking place,
the programme committee of the accessibility and mobility workshop
proposes several kinds of meetings:

- Solution meetings, with conferences  and round tables to present
solutions dedicated to previous areas.

- State of the art conferences between practitioners, developers,
scientists and users to discuss about what exists according to the
specific needs of users, what works well or a little less well,
to talk about approaches...

- Technical presentations between developers and scientists. This
will allow initiation of exchanges between communities that do not
necessarily have the opportunity to meet and will maybe lead to new
collaborations or projects.

Finally, a workshop area will be available to try out and exchange
tools presented by their authors or by seasoned users of those
solutions.


Information on workshops from last year is available on
- 
http://schedule2013.rmll.info/programme/sante/accessibilite-autonomie-et-gestion/

Information on the previous global RMLL/LSM emphasis on accessibility
in 2010 is available on
- http://2010.rmll.info/+-Accessibilite,2-+.html


You will be able to attend conferences  on other related issues
such as System Administration (like Nagios, GLPI, Cfengine,
...), Development (like NoSQL, Lucene, GCC, ...), Law (like
Licenses,OpenData, FSF, ...), Internet (WebGL, Jabber, Typo3, ...),
... Conferences from last year are available on :
- http://schedule2013.rmll.info/

This year, LSM will have as guiding thread Free software and you, which
can be particularly suited to the accessibility and mobility topic :)

If you are interested in participating, please submit your presentation
at:
https://2014.rmll.info/Appel-a-conferences

Please feel free to share this information with others people who
may be interested. We welcome your participation and input and look
forward for a valuable meeting. 

Deadlines =

The following dates are important if you wish to participate to the
call for papers.

Abstract submission: no later than 31st of March 2014

Submission guidelines 

Speakers should submit an abstract in English or French ; about 400
words, and in 2 languages if possible. If accepted, this abstract
will be published on the website.

Submissions should be submitted via this form:
https://2014.rmll.info/Appel-a-conferences

Submissions should also include the following:
  
  * Contact information and Geographical location of presenter
  (country of origin/passport).
  * A brief biography.
  * Any significant presentation and/or educational
  experience/background.
  * For technical topics: Reason why this material is innovative,
  significant or an useful tutorial.
  * Optionally, any outlines or samples of prepared materials.
  * Information whether the submission has already been presented,
  and if so, where.

Personal information will be used exclusively for the sole purpose
of the RMLL/LSM committee and shall not be shared with third parties.

If the paper is not accepted for the main session, it may be accepted
for a short-form or lightning talk session.

Travel 

Accessibility topic of LSM 2013

2013-02-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
   
LSM/RMLL 2013
 14th Libre Software Meeting
  July 6-11, 2013
 Brussels, BELGIUM
   http://2013.rmll.info/
  Call For Papers and Participation
   limited on health  accessibility topic
 [we apologize for duplicate receipt of this message]
 Last call before deadline : march *31st* 2013


Sharing of knowledge, freedom of information, community spirit,
exchange of ideas, technological progress: every year the Libre
Software Meeting (LSM) follows the Libre philosophy.

RMLL/LSM are non-commercial series of conferences, round tables
discussions and practical workshops based on Libre/Free Software and
its uses. Its aim is to provide a platform for Libre/Free Software
users, developers and stakeholders.

Access to LSM is free of charge and open to everyone. The conference
will be held in Brussels from July 6 to July 11, 2013.

We hereby announce the opportunity to submit papers for selection by
the technical review committee for the RMLL/LSM 2013.


Each year the accessibility, autonomy and dependency management
workshop is held as part of this broader meeting.

The LSM committee aims to disseminate and improve Libre projects
in the health and accessibility domains through this workshop. To
better target the various exchanges that will be taking place, the
programme committee of the health  accessibility workshop proposes
several kinds of meetings:

- Solution meetings, with conferences  and round tables to present
solutions dedicated to previous areas.

- State of the art conferences between practitioners, developers,
scientists and users to discuss about what exists according to the
specific needs of users, what works well or a little less well,
to talk about approaches...

- Technical presentations between developers and scientists. This
will allow initiation of exchanges between communities that do not
necessarily have the opportunity to meet and will maybe lead to new
collaborations or projects.

Finally, a workshop area will be available to try out and exchange
tools presented by their authors or by seasoned users of those
solutions.


... Information on health workshops from previous annual meetings
are available on :
- 
http://schedule2012.rmll.info/-Accessibilite-autonomie-et-gestion-de-la-dependance-
You will be able to attend conferences  on other related issues
such as System Administration (like Nagios, GLPI, Cfengine,
...), Development (like NoSQL, Lucene, GCC, ...), Law (like
Licenses,OpenData, FSF, ...), Internet (WebGL, Jabber, Typo3, ...),
... All previous conferences are available on :
- http://schedule2012.rmll.info/

This year, LSM will have as guiding thread Everyday Freedom, which
can be particularly suited to the accessibility topic :)

If you are interested to participate, please submit your presentation
at:
http://2013.rmll.info/submit-your-talk/talk/new

Please feel free to share this information with others people who
may be interested. We welcome your participation and input and look
forward for a valuable meeting. 

Deadlines =

The following dates are important if you wish to participate to the
call for papers.

Abstract submission: no later than 31st of March 2013

Notification date: 15th of April 2013

Submission guidelines 

Speakers should submit an abstract in English, French or Dutch;
limited to 400 words; and in 2 languages if possible.

The program committee will review all papers and the author of each
paper will be notified of the result by electronic means. If accepted,
this abstract will be published on the website.

Submissions should be submitted via this form:
http://2013.rmll.info/cfp

Submissions should also include the following:
  
  * Contact information and Geographical location of presenter
  (country of origin/passport).
  * A brief biography.
  * Any significant presentation and/or educational
  experience/background.
  * For technical topics: Reason why this material is innovative,
  significant or an useful tutorial.
  * Optionally, any outlines or samples of prepared materials.
  * Information whether the submission has already been presented,
  and if so, where.

Personal information will be used exclusively for the sole purpose
of the RMLL/LSM committee and shall not be shared with third parties.

If the paper is not accepted for the main session, it may be accepted
for a short-form or lightning talk session.

Travel Assistance 

Non-commercial and based upon volunteer work, RMLL/LSM are events with
limited resources. However, speakers who exhibit particular need may
receive a refund for their transportation charges at the discretion
of the selection committee. If you know the estimated cost of the
transportation, providing this will make it easier for us to obtain
a clearer view of the expenses that will be incurred.


Re: Talking debian installer (d-i) for Ubuntu

2013-01-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jeffrey Malewski, le Thu 24 Jan 2013 10:52:28 -0500, a écrit :
 They are available as .udeb or source (tar.bz2) I am
 unsure how to add the alsa, espeak, and espeakup .udebs to the initrd.img so

I am unsure either.  I how how it happens in the Debian d-i, but I don't
know the installer is built in Ubuntu. Ideally you'd just need to add
the speakup-modules-${kernel:Version} sound-modules-${kernel:Version}
and espeakup-udeb into the package list of the Ubuntu installer, but I
don't know how that works, that's why I advised you to see with the
Ubuntu installer maintainers.

 my
 first question is whether I would be better off to build the di kernel as a
 monolithic kernel or not.

Probably not. It's probably easier to let speakup as modules, and let
the rootskel init scripts automatically load the module and
espeakup-udeb start the synth.

 The Debian Cd has a
 mechanism to disable the gtk frontend so that the installer runs in a pure 
 text
 environment (everything is directly on-screen rather than ina dialoge box)
 which allows speakup to read the options as they appear on-screen. Is this
 something I should try to incorporate into the modified initrd.img?

I believe Ubuntu still has something like this, called alternate
installer. Again, see with the installer maintainers.

I don't have the time to discuss with these maintainers myself, but keep
me in Cc, and I'll help if I see there are misunderstandings, or some
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Re: Will be ship Quantal with Liblouis 2.5.0 or 2.5.1 release? Very important packaging a new version to works Orca with contracted braille feature in Ubuntu 12.10.

2012-09-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello,

Alan Bell, le Fri 28 Sep 2012 08:58:27 +0100, a écrit :
 looks like this is 2.4.1 in Debian too
 http://packages.debian.org/source/sid/liblouis
 
 so this is more than a sync request from debian

I have just uploaded 2.5.1 into debian experimental.

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Re: Accessibility Meta-package or pp?

2012-03-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Dave Hunt, le Tue 13 Mar 2012 13:12:30 -0400, a écrit :
 Is there a single package or ppa containing the accessibility for Ubuntu
 12.04?  This would be handy for derivative distros, like Trisquel, to be
 sure their accessibility is the latest and complete.  My question is
 prompted by an experience with the Trisquel 5.5 beta, in which orca was
 present, but without libgail-3.  The lack of this library caused many
 objects, known to be accessible with orca, not to work properly.  I added
 all things libgail-3 from the repositories, and my system is as accessible
 as any Ubuntu 11.10, running orca, and using Gnome Classic desktop.

Ideally gnome should just always depend on it, so that all desktops are
accessible already without having to add anything else.

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Health Accessibility topic of LSM 2012

2012-02-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
LSM/RMLL 2012
 13th Libre Software Meeting
  July 7-12, 2012
 Geneva, SWITZERLAND
   http://2012.rmll.info/
  Call For Papers and Participation
   limited on health  accessibility topic
 [we apologize for duplicate receipt of this message]
 Last call before deadline : march *31* 2012


Dear Colleague,

The 13th Libre Software Meeting (LSM) takes place in Geneva,
Switzerland, July 7-12 2012 (http://2012.rmll.info/).

LSM is an annual non-commercial conference on Libre Softwares that
includes round tables and practical workshops. The objective is
to provide a place where users, developers and promoters of Libre
Software can exchange ideas and information. Attendance is free and
open to everyone. 

Each year the health  accessibility workshop is held as part of
this broader meeting.  This year, it will be organized around 3
major fields:

- Accessibility, autonomy and dependency management (mobile/web
accessibility, accessible desktop applications, usability, ...)

- Hospital information system  Tele-health (EHR, telemedicine systems,
workflow solutions, PACS, HL7, ...)

- Imaging  visualization of medical data (CAS, CAD, bio-imaging,
image acquisition/processing/segmentation/registration, simulation,
organ tracking ...)
We invite presentations that address these major fields.

The LSM committee aims to disseminate and improve Libre projects
in the health and accessibility domains through this workshop. To
better target the various exchanges that will be taking place, the
programme committee of the health  accessibility workshop proposes
several kinds of meetings:

- Solution meetings, with conferences  and round tables to present
solutions dedicated to previous areas.

- State of the art conferences between practitioners, developers,
scientists and users to discuss about what exists according to the
specific needs of users, what works well or a little less well,
to talk about approaches...

- Technical presentations between developers and scientists. This
will allow initiation of exchanges between communities that do not
necessarily have the opportunity to meet and will maybe lead to new
collaborations or projects.

Finally, a workshop area will be available to try out and exchange
tools presented by their authors or by seasoned users of those
solutions.


Last year the health  accessibility workshop received (for example)
the following projects: Chewing Word, drupal, FreeMedForms, GDCM,
ITK, joomla kaekus, odt2braille, OpenStreetMap, OsiriX, typo3, ubuntu,
VTK, WEASIS, wordpress, ...

... Information on health workshops from previous annual meetings
are available on :
- http://2011.rmll.info/-Sante-accessibilite-et-handicap-?lang=en
You will be able to attend conferences  on other related issues
such as System Administration (like Nagios, GLPI, Cfengine,
...), Development (like NoSQL, Lucene, GCC, ...), Law (like
Licenses,OpenData, FSF, ...), Internet (WebGL, Jabber, Typo3, ...),
... All previous conferences are available on :
- http://2011.rmll.info/-Programme-?lang=en

This year, LSM will have also 3 transversal topics (thread) :

  • Cloud

  • Common goods

  • Libre economy


If you are interested to participate, please submit your presentation
at:
http://call.rmll.info/talk/new

Please feel free to share this information with others people who
may be interested. We welcome your participation and input and look
forward for a valuable meeting. 

*IMPORTANT* *DATES*:
- The deadline for submission is 31 March 2012. 
- The list of accepted presentations will be announced 15 April, 2012.
- Meeting: July 7-12, 2012.

*ABSTRACT* *SUBMISSION*:
- The call for papers is available here:
 EN : http://2012.rmll.info/participer/call-for-papers
 DE : http://2012.rmll.info/participer/call-for-papers-deutsch
 FR : http://2012.rmll.info/participer/appel-a-conferences

- And you can answer on :
 http://call.rmll.info/
 (Note, you can submit in *english* or *french*)

Best regards,
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Re: speakup under oneiric

2011-10-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jude DaShiell, le Mon 17 Oct 2011 01:29:32 -0400, a écrit :
 speechd-up and speakup do not play nicely together.  One or the other is 
 possible but not both.On Mon, 17 Oct 2011, mk360 wrote:

You mean speechd-up and espeakup, I guess.

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Re: Speakup on ubuntu 11.4

2011-07-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello,

mk360, le Thu 07 Jul 2011 11:18:36 -0400, a écrit :
 DKMS make.log for speakup-3.1.5.dfsg.1 for kernel 2.6.38-8-generic-pae

For recent versions of linux, you do not need to install speakup, it is
already provided in Linux itself. Simply modprobe speakup_ltlk for
instance, and voila.

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LSM from 9th to 14th july 2011

2011-06-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello,

The Libre Software Meeting (LSM, RMLL) will take place from 9th to 14th
july 2011 in Strasbourg. All the information are available on
http://rmll.info

For people who would like lost-cost accomodation, reservations are now
open.

Reservation is recommended anyway, to get a badge and Internet access.

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Re: daisy player

2011-06-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
mattias, le Thu 16 Jun 2011 01:34:50 +0200, a écrit :
 exist one?
 ubunu natty 64 bit

One has been added to oneiric, called daisy-player. The dependencies are
relaxed enough that you should be able to install it without having to
upgrade your Ubuntu system at all.

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Re: Arabic Screen Reader

2010-11-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Barakat El-Dareer, le Fri 19 Nov 2010 12:57:43 +0300, a écrit :
   I'm so wonder if your team work on Arabic language support for Orca 
 ,
 especially there are a lot of theme on Windows Hal, NVDA , Jaws and so on,
 that makes 1/6 of blindness people around the word out of Ubuntu.

Well, it should already be working: just select the arabic table in
the brltty preference menu, or use the arabic contraction table in
orca itself, and it should be working. It however seems like at-spi is
reporting digested arabic letters, i.e. not just use the U+06xy unicode
plane, but the U+FExy plane instead.

In any case, it's more a bug than a missing feature: arabic tables are
there already (and NVDA actually just uses the same table).

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Hardware-based screen magnification

2010-08-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello,

Now that xrandr 1.3 has panning support again, I have written a small
documentation on how this can be used for simple hardware-based screen
magnification:

http://brl.thefreecat.org/wiki/Xorg

the advantage over compiz-based magnification being that it's completely
hardware-driven (except the mouse tracking), thus CPU-free and smooth.

Concerning Orca, that could be an option that users might prefer on
sluggish machines. Concerning Gnome, the shortcut to cycle modes might
be a useful addition. Integrating panning configuration in a nice gui
tool would probably be useful too.

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Re: Speech Dispatcher 0.7 Beta -- Please help with testing

2010-04-27 Thread Samuel Thibault
trev.saund...@gmail.com, le Tue 27 Apr 2010 14:30:39 -0400, a écrit :
 THere is a rather large local security problem with your use of unix sockets. 
  It is very easy for a local hostile user to cause a denial of service, 
 because you put the unix sockets in a world readable place with *very* 
 predictable names.  They are so predictable because a the only thing that the 
 attacker has to gues is the UID of the user, and because UID's for standard 
 users start at 1000, and are assigned in order, the attacker would only have 
 to create say 100 files, wich with a simple shell script is trivial.

That's actually not really new, compared to the previous TCP/IP
approach.

The place (or port number) has to be well-known for applications to be
able to connect to it anyway, so any security layer needs to be added
after connection.

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Re: Announcing the OpenTTS project, a fork of speech-dispatcher

2010-04-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello,

Bill Cox, le Mon 19 Apr 2010 09:50:51 -0400, a écrit :
  Brailcom has always officially supported the work done by Luke Yelavich and 
  others.  We
  linked Luke's git from the official Speech Dispatcher web page and we were 
  trying to
  promote this work where possible.  We also put at least some minimal effort 
  into
  reviewing how the development continues and plan to make an official release

Couldn't brailcom just share the responsibility of releases with Luke
 co?  I believe forking was for a big part needed to actually commit
and release new versions.  Projects that I have seen forked were usually
like that: the maintainers not having the time to develop and release
new versions, and not having other people do it either.

It'd be really better if we could avoid any fork, as that would save a
lot of packaging / naming headache.

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Re: speakup integration?

2010-04-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jacob Schmude, le Tue 13 Apr 2010 02:13:02 -0400, a écrit :
 Are there any plans to have Speakup on the text-based installer disks in
 the future so as to facilitate the installation of Ubuntu Server, for
 example?

Just to mention that Debian has speakup on its installer disks since
Etch (along the graphical installer for space reason). So the code
exists, just pick it up.

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Re: Lucid update broke accessibility

2010-03-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Bill Cox, le Thu 04 Mar 2010 10:03:27 -0500, a écrit :
 Anyone have any ideas what's going on?  Shall I file a
 bug report on bugs.launchpad.net?

Unless somebody speaks within a day, report a bug. Better report bugs
several times and they will be merged, than risk not reporting the bug
at all.

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Re: OCR made easy on ubuntu 9.04

2010-03-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello,

sathyan, le Tue 02 Mar 2010 16:32:39 -0500, a écrit :
 Now a visually impaired person can enjoy reading the printed books using
 free software, cuneiform is a wonderful ocr engine

Sorry to moderate a bit, but according to Debian, cuneiform is not free,
because the source for the .dat files is unknown, see
http://bugs.debian.org/496264

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Accessibility and handicap topic of LSM 2010

2010-02-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
The Libre Software Meeting (LSM or RMLL in French for Rencontres
Mondiales du Logiciel Libre) is conferences cycle about Free
Softawre. LSM is an annual event born in 2000 and since 2003, it
occurs in a different town each year. LSM are free as in beer and as
a speech :-) No fees, no places limit.

So far, among the various topics (culture, social and solidarity
economy, …) an accessibility and handicap topic used to take place.
This year, in addition to being a dedicated topic, the Accessibility
and Handicap topic is a transverse topic. It will thus not only
be composed of conferences in its own session (itself composed of
several approaches), but also participation to the other topics.

http://2010.rmll.info/Accessibility-and-handicap-topic.html

Now we just need to fill it! You can not only propose to expose
something among the ideas already proposed or not, or just
give a talk idea, or just a speaker idea, by simply replying to
accessibil...@listes2010.rmll.info

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Re: Public workstations

2010-02-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Storm Dragon, le Thu 11 Feb 2010 11:42:21 -0500, a écrit :
 Accessible distros are great in some ways, they solve a lot of problems for
 people, especially newbies who want and expect things to just work. The 
 problem
 I have with them, is that when Linux gains enough popularity that it is
 installed on public computers, like at the library say, it's probably not 
 going
 to be the accessible distro.

I do agree with your point.

I'd like to note however that I'm not sure windows is much better at
this, so getting mainline distros accessible would even make Linux a
better choice at least for that reason :)

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Re: ORCA, SSH and XWindows

2009-10-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Loren Schoof, le Sun 11 Oct 2009 13:24:37 -0700, a écrit :
 When I connect to a Linux machine using PUTTY, JAWS does not handle the 
 windowed environment from the Linux machine.

Mmm, are you using just an ssh connexion?  In that case there is no
windowed environment to be read.  Are you using an X server on your
windows box and using X forwarding?  In that case it's just that JAWS
isn't able to read Linux application, which is normal.

 So my question is: if I convert my PC to Linux with ORCA and connect to the 
 SAS server via SSH or RLOGIN, will ORCA be able to work with the SAS windows?

I guess you here really mean X forwarding over ssh.j Orca will not be
able to read it unless you run it directly on the server.

However, I'm wondering: in the windows case, you install a SAS software
in order to access the central server, right?  Isn't there the same kind
of similar software for Linux that you run on your own machine?

In any case, to be accessible, the SAS windowed system needs to be
implemented using gtk.

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Re: SAPI

2009-07-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Angelo D. Marra, le Tue 14 Jul 2009 02:08:17 +0200, a écrit :
 I've been googoling without  clear results:
 Can we have sapi 5 on ubuntu?

There has been plans to implement sapi in wine, I don't know how well it
is going, but I'm pretty sure it's not available yet.

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Re: espeakup in Jaunty

2009-04-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Storm Dragon, le Fri 10 Apr 2009 08:00:25 -0400, a écrit :
 I have installed speakup, and everything went as expected until I tried to
 compile espeakup.  I kept getting errors about functions being implicitly
 defined.  Does anyone know what changed to cause this to happen, and beter 
 yet,
 how to fix it?

How do you get espeakup?  There used to be such warnings, but they were
only warnings.

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Re: espeakup in Jaunty

2009-04-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Storm Dragon, le Fri 10 Apr 2009 08:41:17 -0400, a écrit :
 Is there a way to make it compile even though it has errors?

Ah, so they are really errors on your system?  Show them to us.

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Re: espeakup in Jaunty

2009-04-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Storm Dragon, le Fri 10 Apr 2009 09:13:36 -0400, a écrit :
 stormdra...@stormdragon-laptop:~/speakup/contrib/espeakup-0.60$ make
 cc -c -Wall   -o espeakup.o espeakup.c
 In file included from espeakup.c:27:
 espeakup.h:26:30: error: espeak/speak_lib.h: No such file or directory

That's the issue.  You need to install the package that ships it, namely
libespeak-dev

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Re: Laptop screens

2009-03-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
David Ryder, le Thu 12 Mar 2009 13:45:14 +1100, a écrit :
 Does this mean that if _you_ did xrandr -x, your display would be like
 the enclosed?

I _did_ it before sending my mail, to check that it was xrandr -x and
not xrandr -y, yes. (and actually had a hard time typing xrandr -o
normal to get back to normal :) )

 I guess boot up, setup,install would be excluded?

- Text mode would be more kernel work.
- X-based install is a matter of integrating the call to that command.
- IIRC FB has a mirror option too.

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Re: Laptop screens

2009-03-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
David Ryder, le Thu 12 Mar 2009 15:08:48 +1100, a écrit :
 Of course, my preference would be for a display card/adapter to do the
 work so the whole computer was permanently like that? Is there a
 hardware way?

It is possible, yes. Probably easier with DVI ports than with VGA ports.
I guess that may already exists as there is probably already some needs
in other contexts (street screens rendered indirectly or such). I have
not idea where to look for it, however.

As a side note, I'm very curious about the disability itself: do people
who need this fix actually read reversed?  I really wonder how that
can be.  I can understand that one could better understand a reverted
mouse, but reverted reading quite astonishes me.  Would you have links
explaining this a bit more?

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Re: Laptop screens

2009-03-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
David Ryder, le Thu 12 Mar 2009 06:50:12 +1100, a écrit :
 Does anybody know of any laptop (suitable for linux) that allows the
 user to display the screen in mirror image?

What do you mean by mirror image?

xrandr -x

?

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Re: Laptop screens

2009-03-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
David Ryder, le Thu 12 Mar 2009 12:29:34 +1100, a écrit :
 On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 01:42 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
  David Ryder, le Thu 12 Mar 2009 06:50:12 +1100, a écrit :
   Does anybody know of any laptop (suitable for linux) that allows the
   user to display the screen in mirror image?
  
  What do you mean by mirror image?
  
  xrandr -x
  
  ?
 
 Hold a mirror up to the screen and look at it in the mirror. What you
 will see is called mirror image.

Ok, so just run

xrandr -x

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Re: Vibuntu the most accessible Ubuntu Linux live cd for theVisually Impaired EVA III

2008-12-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
luke Davis, le Mon 15 Dec 2008 01:44:35 -0500, a écrit :
 Ubuntu may even recognize the value in adding at least a beeping 
 bootloader, and a less tricky installation process for disabled users.  

Again, please do not take things wrong.  Ubuntu does _not_ have any
opinion of what accessibility features should be enabled.  The problem
is not of willness, but of manpower.  See
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gfxboot-theme-ubuntu/+bug/180561
for instance, which I filed some time ago about the precise feature you
are asking for.  Luke didn't say he doesn't recognize the value.  He
says he depends on somebody fixing sound support in gfxboot.

 That would go a long way to eliminating the need for this project, I 
 think, and is probably the way I would rather see things go.

I definitely see it this way, yes.  Instead of duplicating the work of
mastering a CD, it'd be better to just fix Ubuntu itself.  Yes, that
means talking with developers to get things included, but once it's
there, it's for good (if you provide a way to test it).

 But so what?  Are we not all about offering alternatives and choices?  Too 
 many choices can be a bad thing.

The problem is sustainability of the alternative.

 Put this CD in, boot it up, and follow the spoken or brailled or
 magnified instructions, is not usually the response given to such
 questions.

When you have a USB braille device, it is now in Debian.  Because I took
the time to have things for it integrated upstream.

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Re: Speech-dispatcher as a service?

2008-12-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
David Picón Álvarez, le Thu 04 Dec 2008 16:21:59 +0100, a écrit :
 Even better would be if Ubuntu came like that already, but that's
 probably harder to manage.

Why?  Yes, working with people is difficult, but keeping a parallel
distribution is a lot of long-term work.  See what happened in
Debian: I pushed the support for braille devices, and added a wiki page
describing how to check that it still works.  The result is that a few
debian-installer people actually do test it themselves, so I don't need
to do _any_ work any more on that regard and I could push the support
for speakup, for which I added a wiki page, etc.

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Re: ubuntu 8.10 textinstaller and braille

2008-11-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Simon Bienlein, le Tue 18 Nov 2008 19:52:58 +0100, a écrit :
 After the installation, BrlTTY is not automatically started as in the 
 file /etc/default/brltty the parameter RUN_BRLTTY is set on no. Can 
 this problem be fixed by developers or do I have to register with 
 launchpad to submit a bug?

It'd probably be better to do the latter.

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Re: I have a question about file browsers

2008-11-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
mike, le Fri 07 Nov 2008 16:55:45 -0600, a écrit :
 Hi, in the dos days there was a nice little program called sdir. It was a 
 file browser that once ran let you use the arrow keys to look at different 
 files.  If I remember correctly, sdir even let you change to different drives.
   Does anyone know if there are any file browsers like this for Linux?

Midnight Commander (mc) for instance?

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Re: New developer

2008-10-27 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello,

Tom Lloyd, le Mon 27 Oct 2008 16:23:43 -0700, a écrit :
 As a side project I am intergrating SAPI into Ubuntu to gives access
 to the MS speech engines using speech dispatcher.

That is really great news!

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Re: why Your development team disabled automatic braille display detection and support during booting from A Ubuntu live CD?

2008-08-25 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello,

Luke Yelavich, le Mon 25 Aug 2008 11:18:59 +1000, a écrit :
 Unfortunately I do not have a USB Braille display, so cannot test and check 
 detection myself.

Qemu now (svn version) has a -curses option to work in text mode, and a
-usbdevice braille option to emulate a USB baum device.

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Re: Braille display

2008-07-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jan Mura, le Tue 29 Jul 2008 05:32:46 +0200, a écrit :
 It doesn't work with Orca still write down that there is a startup problem.

Actually it's not orca that displays it, but brltty.  You can press a
braille key to acknowledge the error, and see the /var/log/daemon.log to
get the full error.

 The second thing is if I push ALT+CTRL+Fx am I in console?

Yes.

 Should I install some reader for console?

It is already installed, that's brltty.

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Re: liblouisxmml

2008-05-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
[EMAIL PROTECTED], le Thu 15 May 2008 14:44:41 -0400, a écrit :
 gcc -c  -Wall  -fPIC -O2 transcriber.c -I/usr/include/libxml2 
 In file included from transcriber.c:35:
 louisxml.h:34:27: error: libxml/parser.h: No such file or directory

apt-file search libxml/parser.h

libxml2-dev: /usr/include/libxml2/libxml/parser.h

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qemu, Ubuntu CDs, and braille

2008-05-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello,

svn's version of qemu (as well as the debian qemu package starting
from version 0.9.1-4) has support for virtual braille devices.  That
means that people without braille device can still check the support by
installing brltty and then running:

brltty -b xw -A auth=user,host=:1 
BRLAPI_HOST=:1 qemu -usbdevice braille -cdrom ubuntu.iso

which will display a fake braille device, on which will appear the
output of the virtual USB device emulated by qemu.

That will probably be helpful to get (sighted) ubuntu core developers
test e.g. automatic brltty+orca installation/launch upon detection of
braille device, so please spread the word ;)

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Re: libspi-1.0

2008-04-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Donald Raikes, le Mon 14 Apr 2008 19:35:05 -0700, a écrit :
 I am trying to compile a package from a tarball, but it keeps saying
 that it requires libspi-1.0 or later.

libspi is in libatspi1.0-0

# apt-get install apt-file
# apt-file update
# apt-file search libspi

;)

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Re: Ubuntu for visually impaired

2008-03-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jan Mura, le Fri 07 Mar 2008 15:59:33 +0100, a écrit :
 just would like to ask if this list is for blind persons specific problem?

That's the main topic yes
(though other kinds of accessibility issues are completely on-topic of
course).

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Re: [orca-list] BrlTTY package testing.

2008-02-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sérgio Neves, le Fri 29 Feb 2008 14:39:47 -, a écrit :
 Is it recommended to remove the old brltty with
 sudo apt-get --purge remove brltty
 or this new brltty replaces completely the other?

It should nicely replace the old one.

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Re: Ubuntu with german speech

2007-05-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hi,

Lutenitsa, le Sat 12 May 2007 11:18:43 +0200, a écrit :
 Bytheway, are there some hints to setup urca or to configure brllty to work
 with the console?
 Does orca recognize a braille terminal that is conected via usb or do I have 
 to
 make some configurations in .conf files.

A USB device should just work fine without any configuration: just plug
it in and brltty should get started automatically, recognize it and
provide console access. And then you can start orca which will use it
automatically for displaying braille.

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Re: SSHD on Ubuntu

2007-05-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hi,

Christian, le Thu 03 May 2007 19:07:14 +0200, a écrit :
 I need to have SSHD isntalled onto my Ubuntu 7.04 but i cannot seem to find 
 it wiht apt-cache. any thoughts?

It's probably rather called openssh

Note: for such not accessibility-related question, you should rather ask
on more generic lists.

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Re: this may be useful to read man pages

2007-04-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hi,

mike coulombe, le Sat 21 Apr 2007 16:26:22 -0500, a écrit :
 Hi, I found a program by accident and thought I would share it with you.
 I typed info in the terminal and was told info was not installed.
 After installing it with aptitude I found it reads man pages.

It's not really meant to read man pages originally. It's used for
reading texinfo pages. Try

info gcc

For instance.

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Re: accessibility of windows applications running under wine

2007-04-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Lubos Pintes, le Tue 10 Apr 2007 20:15:31 +0200, a écrit :
 Just curious: Can Orca read applications running under wine?

Not yet, because wine wasn't ported to using atk. But this should be
relatively easily feasible, it's just that someone has to actually do
it.

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Re: Braille support testing

2007-01-31 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hi,

Henrik Nilsen Omma, le Wed 31 Jan 2007 12:02:34 +0100, a écrit :
 After Herd 3 is out (this week) we want to switch back on general USB 
 detection and deploy a script to assist with the configuration of serial 
 displays. We would appreciate help with testing from anyone with a 
 braille device, and esp. serial ones.

For testing over serial cable, you could just use the TTY driver (tt),
that lets you use another box with minicom.

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Re: eSpeak - PPC architecture

2007-01-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Luke Yelavich, le Sun 21 Jan 2007 22:58:57 +1100, a écrit :
  Is the byte order different from i386?
 
 I think it is, but I couldn't be sure of that.

It is different indeed: ppc is big endian.

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Re: Orca on laptops.

2006-11-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Bill Haneman, le Wed 08 Nov 2006 13:24:53 +, a écrit :
 Luke Yelavich wrote:
  ...
  In Windows, Jaws manages to prevent the capslock key from being latched 
  or unlatched. To latch/unlatch, you press shift + Capslock, or press 
  capslock twice quickly.

 I see.  I expect that would be a hazardous and/or fragile thing to 
 attempt on X, especially if, as I believe, the latching behavior is a 
 hardware feature on some (most?) keyboards.

It was on some old keyboard, but with PC keyboard it is just a regular
key.

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Re: Orca on laptops.

2006-11-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
On my french keyboard, Mod2 is Numlock, Mod4 is Windows and Mod5 is AltGr.
I didn't manage to hit Mod3.

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Re: Orca on laptops.

2006-11-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Luke Yelavich, le Wed 08 Nov 2006 06:21:58 +1100, a écrit :
 So what modifier key would you like to use for Orca?

Couldn't this be just configurable?

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Re: Orca on laptops.

2006-11-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Bill Haneman, le Tue 07 Nov 2006 20:15:53 +, a écrit :
 AltGr is one that often gets forgotten; what about that?  It does appear 
 to be a modifier key on all the systems I am aware of.

Yes, but it's widely used for typing ~, #, {, [, |, `, \, ^, @, ], },
€, «, », œ, æ, ß, ...

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Re: Orca on laptops.

2006-11-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Bill Haneman, le Tue 07 Nov 2006 20:35:47 +, a écrit :
  Yes, but it's widely used for typing ~, #, {, [, |, `, \, ^, @, ], },
  €, «, », œ, æ, ß, ...
 
 Agreed, but doesn't orca use arrow keys for many of its functions?

I use altgr-arrows for producing ←→↑↓ :)

 I know there are lots of keys which AltGr doesn't appear to do 
 anything with.

On an american qwerty keyboard maybe, but even latin languages need a
bunch of algr keys.

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Re: Orca on laptops.

2006-11-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Luke Yelavich, le Wed 08 Nov 2006 07:43:42 +1100, a écrit :
 On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 07:35:47AM EST, Bill Haneman wrote:
  Agreed, but doesn't orca use arrow keys for many of its functions?
  I know there are lots of keys which AltGr doesn't appear to do 
  anything with.
 
 I have never heard of AltGr. What key is this?

It is also known as right alt: that's the key just on the right side
of the space bar.  It is used for expending what can be typed on a
keyboard. Mandatory for many (all?) non-english languages.

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Re: BRLTTY ignores option for attributes table

2006-10-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hi,

Henrik Nilsen Omma, le Wed 18 Oct 2006 15:48:49 +0200, a écrit :
 Simon Bienlein wrote:
  I tested BRLTTY and Orca with the ubuntu cd of October 8. After the
  jingle, I pressed strg+alt+F1 and entered the following command:
 
  sudo brltty -a text.de -b ht -d ttyS0
 
 
 
  The German attributes table was not loaded. Is this a bug or did I do
  something wrong?
 
 I'm not very familiar with brltty, but it seems like -a wants the full 
 path to the attributes table.

Simon, are you sure you're talking about the attribute table (-a), and
not about the text table (-t)?  What I guess you want is

brltty -t de -a attributes.tbl

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Re: A Bit OT: Making the Command-Line Friendlier (DOS-Background, Long)

2006-10-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Krister Ekstrom, le Tue 10 Oct 2006 14:13:09 +0200, a écrit :
  But once learned, this is a very efficient approach.  Yes, it means
  learning.  Well, yes, bare unix will probably be for programmers for
  long.
  
 Yes and it's sad because unix/Linux is a powerful system but unless it
 doesn't get user friendlier, which it works on, it's gonna be kinda hard
 to convinse windows folks to leave Windows... 

I'm talking about unix, not gnome.  You can very well be a windows folk
using a GNU/Linux system through gnome, you won't need to have the
unixish way of thinking.

 Where can you obtain this? I checked but Ubuntu didn't have it.
 On another not, would it be at all possible for Brltty to have some kind
 of option to track other cursors than the standard system cursor, for
 example the soft cursor found in MC?

The problem with soft cursor is precisely that it is soft: only MC
knows about it.  The correction is quite simple: just have MC route the
hard cursor just like the soft one. That's precisely what AMC does.

In general, if a text application behaves like MC, just send an email to
the author, it will probably not be very hard to fix that.

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Re: Software: MIDI Seqs, Graphical Devel Tools

2006-10-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Veli-Pekka Tätilä, le Tue 10 Oct 2006 17:23:19 +0300, a écrit :
  Any tools you could recommend for writing C-apps and editing Gnome
  GUis?
  For editing Gnome GUIs, glade should be accessible.
 Is it text based or graphical, by the way. It is not that big a difference 
 in this case. I'm wearing my progremmer hat and thus am willing to edit make 
 files, resource scripts and such. Of course, I've been spoiled by Visual 
 Studio so graphical debugging would  rock, too.

Since it is for graphical interfaces, glade is graphical. Mmm, that
said, since it involves putting buttons on windows, it might not be so
accessible.

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Re: Software: MIDI Seqs, Graphical Devel Tools

2006-10-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jan Claeys, le Tue 10 Oct 2006 20:17:48 +0200, a écrit :
 Op dinsdag 10-10-2006 om 16:26 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Samuel
 Thibault:
  Since it is for graphical interfaces, glade is graphical.
 
 Glade-the-application is graphical, but .glade files are just XML of
 course.  I'm not sure what's easiest to edit for someone who's blind?

As usual with XML, .glade files are more storage files than editable
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Re: Making the Command-Line Friendlier (DOS-Background)

2006-10-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hi,

Veli-Pekka Tätilä, le Mon 09 Oct 2006 09:09:08 +0300, a écrit :
 LS output is very speech unfriendly,

What do you mean? Because it speaks all file names?

 silence on success feels disconcerting,

Isn't the prompt spoken ?

 having to specify that you want a confirmation appears to negate its
 whole point and even the switches are all wrong by default.

Yes. That's because when you use commands in a shell script, you don't
want to have all confirmations printed by default.  If you really want
a confirmation, you can use another shell than bash (bash is quite
limited), and tinker with your $PS1 variable (the command prompt) and
the $? variable (the return code, which is 0 in case of success).

 Speaking the users language wouldn't be bad either. e.g:
 
 cp: cannot stat `foo': No such file or directory
 
 Hmm and what do we gain by knowing that a stat system call is used? All the 
 user cares about is that the source file could not be found.

Well, here that's a concern not really related to accessibility.  The
problem is that programmers are programmers.  But you can report this
problem to the package that provides cp, coreutils.

 So are there bash configs and or other scripts for making the environment 
 more DOS-like in a good way.

For some issues yes, for others no.

 That is more hand holding,

What do you mean ?

 confirmation prompts,

This you can do it, by having the shell look at the $? variable when
returning to prompt, and say OK when it is 0.

 verbose command output

For this it's generally the -v option: cp -v foo bar for instance. You
can put
alias cp='cp -v'
in your .bashrc for this.  The problem is that it's quite talkative.  Do
you really want to hear all files that are being transfered?  (That's
why it's not enabled by default).

 and a general attitude of not assuming you are a programmer and know
 what you are doing.

As I said, that's quite another problem.  Linux was first programmed for
programmers, and the difficulty is now to change this.  Just submit bugs
to the appropriate packages, and this will be corrected.

 I have to dabble as root a little, and that's scary when I don't
 know exactly how the shell will deal with wild cards or quoting, for
 example.

You can

echo *.foo*

before doing

rm *.foo*

for checking the wild card expansion.

 assuming the current directory is in the path

This poses security problem: if the current directory contains an ls
script, then you won't be able to read the directory.  Or worse, the
script may actually perform ls, but also mail  /etc/passwd
[EMAIL PROTECTED], etc...  So I would really _not_ recommand having this
behavior and really always use ./foo instead of just foo.

 [I] seem to have an immense dislike for most non-interactive Unix
 command-line apps and shells. Maybe this is just culture shock and
 initial change resistance.

Unfortunately, that's the Unix way of thinking...  So yes I'd say it is
just a shock.

 in particular, SunOS 5 and TCSH as used in our Uni machine is just
 plain terrible. e.g:
 
 grep: illegal option -- help
 Usage: grep -hblcnsviw pattern file . . .
 
 Really helpful. Compare to findstr /? which gives you much more info 
 including what the command actually does.

Indeed.

The thing is: unix was initially written for programmers.  Microsoft
writes software for general public.  No wonder why the achievment is not
the same.

But you can have GNU's coreutils behave friendlier: just report a
wishlist to the appropriate packages, and it will be corrected.

Note however: don't say printing `cannot stat foo' sucks !, which is
rude to the programmer who wrote the program.  Instead, say could it
print `cannot find file foo' please?.

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Re: Available text-to-speech software for linux

2006-10-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hi,

LarsWiki probably has a list
http://larswiki.atrc.utoronto.ca/wiki

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Re: Available text-to-speech software for linux

2006-10-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jonathan Duddington, le Mon 09 Oct 2006 13:07:02 +0100, a écrit :
 The LarsWiki list is incomplete.  There's also eSpeak:
   http://espeak.sourceforge.net/

Then please notify LarsWiki people.

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Re: BrlTTY / orca

2006-10-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hi,

Veli-Pekka Tätilä, le Wed 04 Oct 2006 16:45:18 +0300, a écrit :
 I'm natively running Windows XP and Dolphin Supernova 7, which is a combined 
 screen reader and magnifier. WIthin WIndows I have a pair of virtual serial 
 ports com 1 and com 2 that are connected like a null-modem cable. 
 Additionally, I'm running VmWare Server 1.01 which runs Ubuntu Dapper as a 
 guest OS. There's a serial port in that Linux virtual machine which is 
 connected to the host machine's com2 port. The last component of the puzzle 
 is the terminal emulator TeraTerm which monitors the com 1 port, that being 
 the other end of the virtual null modem cable.

Ah, ok. I can understand this much better now :)

 VmWare server also supports USB devices and if my WIndows reader is not 
 using it, the LINux virtual machine can see my Braille display (Tieman 
 Voyager). What I'd like to do would be to get brlTTY working

Doesn't this already work?  I mean, if you cut down your windows reader,
BrlTTY should be able to grab the device, and give you a reading of the
console, and once orca/gnopernicus run, get their reading of the gnome
session.

 I've already got Gnopernicus speaking but it says it cannot find the
 braillle display.

As gnopernicus probably said, the checklist is
- /etc/brlapi.key exists and is not empty.
- you have read right on /etc/brlapi.key
- brltty is running with API enabled.

Another possibility would be to run brltty natively inside windows, and
have gnopernicus connect to it through network.  A bit tricky, but not
that much (you just need to set the BRLAPI_HOSTNAME environment variable
to host:0 where you replace host by the name of your windows machine,
or its IP).

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Re: braille displays/notetakers and ubuntu

2006-09-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hi,

MICHAEL WEAVER, le Sun 24 Sep 2006 20:03:12 +0100, a écrit :
 Could anyone give me any suggestions as to displays/notetakers that will 
 work with Ubuntu?

See http://www.mielke.cc/brltty/ (when it is available again) for a list
of supported hardware.

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Re: Edgy Eft installable with Braille display?

2006-09-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hi,

Henrik Nilsen Omma, le Fri 15 Sep 2006 10:12:53 +0100, a écrit :
 Honestly we have not put as much effort into Braille display support for 
 Dapper and Edgy as we perhaps should have. Partly because we've not had 
 good access to braille displays.

You don't really need a braille device. You can use minicom via
a serial cable, and BRLTTY's tt driver. (That's how I debugged
debian-installer)

Don't hesitate to ask me anything about how I implemented it in
debian-installer.

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[Bug 58718] Re: [Bug 58718] brltty must be started with sudo

2006-09-03 Thread Samuel thibault
Henrik Nilsen Omma, le Sun 03 Sep 2006 14:21:10 -, a écrit :
 Permissions in Ubuntu seem to be prganised such that brltty (the braille
 system) must always be started as root (sudo). Please consider adding a
 device type that normal users can have the appropriate permissions for
 to fix this.
 
 $ brltty
 brltty: BRLTTY 3.7.2
 brltty: Linux Screen Driver
 brltty: Cannot open screen device: /dev/vcsa: Permission denied
 brltty: cannot read screen.

Mmm, being able to read the console is quite dangerous: via an ssh
account, it's just spying. And being able to insert keypresses on the
console is even more dangerous.

I'd suggest to rather add a brl group that would have such permissions
(so as to limit people who have such powerful permissions).

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Re: [BRLTTY] Brltty on ubuntu cd

2006-08-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hi,

Cheryl Homiak, le Wed 23 Aug 2006 12:09:11 -0500, a écrit :
 Wasn't sure on which list this was most appropriate, so hope nobody  
 will mind my posting here.

There is an ubuntu-accessibility lists, so I'm forwarding this.

 My question is: is there a way at boot to specify the braille-driver  
 on the ubuntu cd? If one cuses f5 and the blindness choice for  
 accessibility, brltty will, if I understand correctly, be looking for  
 the braille display as a usb device. If one has a serial or usbserial  
 device, one needs to be able to specify this device instead. It  
 wasn't clear to me whether, before hitting the final enter for  
 ubuntu to start booting, there was provision for entering the brltty  
 driver information.

Please Ubuntu guys answer this ;)

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Re: d-i accessibility for Edgy (was, Re: [Bug 13457] Re: Keyboard rate is not long enough for users withdisabilities)

2006-05-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
Henrik Nilsen Omma, le Tue 23 May 2006 16:37:27 +0100, a écrit :
 I wonder if d-i would work with Speakup as well?

Speakup is included in the access floppies.  I haven't done it yet,
but I consider asking for inclusion of the speakup-enabled kernel in
usual CDs.

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Re: a11y Dapper TODO list!

2006-05-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hi,

* We need to decide which brltty packages are needed in main,
  currently brltty is seeded to be there, but brltty-flite,
  brltty-x11 are not (they are only Suggests: but not Depends:)
  -
  do we need to seed some of these to make stuff work?

brltty-x11 includes the AtSpi screen reader, that can be very useful for
reading gnome-terminals with brltty.

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Re: [Bug 39332] Re: brltty needs to install non-interactively

2006-04-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Henrik Nilsen Omma, le Thu 13 Apr 2006 08:52:16 -, a écrit :
 Yes I agree that it should be configured so that it is inactive for most 
 people.

It can be left in autodetect mode. Whenever a USB braille device is
plugged-in, it wakes up.

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Re: Testing plan

2005-12-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hi,

Just to let people know about the Accessibility Application Development
HOWTO at TLDP:

http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Accessibility-Dev-HOWTO/

I guess such documentations should get merged somehow, and hosted at a
common place, such as a11y.org

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