Re: Installing Ubuntu without GRUB
Glenn / Lenny wrote: > Hi Again, > I have been researching this concern, and it seems to me that I came up > with an idea that might work. I just don't recall the installation steps > to know for sure if I will get my option to do this step. I suspect that > my Windows partition is going to be /dev/sda1 and the empty partition will > be /dev/sda2. Do we get the option of which partition to put GRUB onto? Yes. Sensible choices are the MBR (which is not a partition at all) or the root partition of your linux installation. Remember that you *NEED* some method to tell the boot process to jump to that partition, which you will have to organize yourself - Ubuntu won't do it for you. And the Grub people are strongly opposed to installing Grub to a partition because the housekeeping processes of some filing systems "fix" things in undesirable ways. There are ways to make it work, if you want to. > If > so, I suspect that if I can put GRUB onto the Linux partition, that I will > only be presented with GRUB when I down arrow to the second partition that > my BIOS offers, and having GRUB there is no big deal. Any thoughts? Glenn Are you using BIOS? Or UEFI in legacy mode? Or UEFI as UEFI? If you are using BIOS then LiLo works well, but is no longer maintained. If you are using UEFI then rEFInd works well. These can be used instead of or as well as Grub, depending on taste. What does your firmware offer you, a list of disks, or partitions, or bootable targets? -- blind Pete Sig goes here... -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Installing Ubuntu without GRUB
Brendan Perrine wrote: > On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 13:46:51 -0600 > "Glenn / Lenny" <ger...@cableone.net> wrote: > >> Hi Again, >> I have been researching this concern, and it seems to me that I came up >> with an idea that might work. I just don't recall the installation steps >> to know for sure if I will get my option to do this step. I suspect that >> my Windows partition is going to be /dev/sda1 and the empty partition >> will be /dev/sda2. Do we get the option of which partition to put GRUB >> onto? If so, I suspect that if I can put GRUB onto the Linux partition, >> that I will only be presented with GRUB when I down arrow to the second >> partition that my BIOS offers, and having GRUB there is no big deal. Any >> thoughts? Glenn > > This may limit your options if say you forget your administrative > passwords as many guides suggest using grub to boot into rescue mode for > that for example > http://askubuntu.com/questions/24006/how-do-i-reset-a-lost-administrative-password Bootable USB drives and DVDs will allow you to get at your main installation if necessary, as long as you have not encrypted it. If you have done that then you don't need my help. > Grub also allows you to boot to sometimes an older kernel. I don't know if > your bios has this fucntionality. > > IF you are using the desktop installer you if you select something else in > the installation process it will allow to chose where to install grub as > well as many more advanced options. However you may need to know more > about filesystems as some like xfs or btrfs are not likely to have been > tested by the people who wrote your bios. I would likely try to stay with > ext4 filesystem for doing this. As some other will likely be not tested > and could posibly have problems. -- blind Pete Sig goes here... -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: magnification in Ubuntu 15.10?
My main system is Trusty Tahr, but after a couple of reboots I can tell you that it is easy to install gnome-orca on WW Xubuntu and that it announces itself when started from the command line. What else is does or fails to do I don't know. bP Milton wrote: > Is Xubuntu accessible with Orca? > Milton > > Op 23-11-15 om 00:36 schreef blind Pete: >> Milton wrote: >> >>> Hi List, >>> >>> I did a fresh install of Ubuntu 15.10 to try magnification. I installed >>> compizconfig-settings-manager and compiz-plugins. I notice that Enhanced >>> Zoom Desktop is enabled by default. I changed some short cut keys for >>> avoiding using the Suer key. In Unity and Metacity nothing happens with >>> magnification while in Gnome-shell it works. But in Gnome-shell negative >>> view is not working after I checked this function. Do you have some >>> tips? Thanks. >>> Milton >> >> Xubuntu 15.10 zooms and pans without any configuration. Just hold the >> key and scroll the mouse wheel. >> -- blind Pete Sig goes here... -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: magnification in Ubuntu 15.10?
Milton wrote: > Hi List, > > I did a fresh install of Ubuntu 15.10 to try magnification. I installed > compizconfig-settings-manager and compiz-plugins. I notice that Enhanced > Zoom Desktop is enabled by default. I changed some short cut keys for > avoiding using the Suer key. In Unity and Metacity nothing happens with > magnification while in Gnome-shell it works. But in Gnome-shell negative > view is not working after I checked this function. Do you have some > tips? Thanks. > Milton Xubuntu 15.10 zooms and pans without any configuration. Just hold the key and scroll the mouse wheel. -- blind Pete Sig goes here... -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: working with magnification
Milton wrote: Hi blind Pete, I could not get further because I do not know what buttons are button1, button2 etc. Can you or somebody tell me if I set Zoom-inn to button4 what button that is on my keyboard and also for button5? Thanks in advance. Milton [snip] On a standard mouse; button 1 is the left mouse button, button 2 is the middle button (press the scroll wheel down), button 3 is the right button, button 4 means scroll the mouse wheel one way, button 5 means scroll the wheel the other way. Exotic mice might have more buttons. If you want to be difficult you can reassign buttons in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but I strongly discourage that. On the keyboard; alt, control, and shift should be obvious. Very old keyboards do not have a Super/Windows/Tux key, most have a Windows logo on a key between the Control and Alt keys. (One on each side of the keyboard.) Also, if you have a European keyboard there is one more key than on a US keyboard, and the left and right Alt keys are different. Superbutton5 means hold down one of the keys with a Windows logo on it and scroll the mouse wheel. If you are very lucky you might have pictures of penguins rather than windows. Off topic: Top-posting is normal for most e-mail and some USENET groups. Bottom posting is more normal around here. Be prepared to trim stuff that you are not replying to. I usually add an editor's mark like [snip] to indicate that I have deleted stuff. Anyone who wants to see the original can easily go back to an older message. I am accessing this as a news group via nntp at gmane.linux.ubuntu.devel.accessibility although I guess that you are using it as e-mail. Consider using a news reader rather than a mail agent. It is also possible to look at old posts with a web browser. Also if your signature starts with newline dash dash space newline most news readers will recognize it as a signature and automatically not include it any reply. -- blind Pete Sig goes here... -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: working with magnification
Milton wrote: A question for helping out a friend: can you recommand a system to work with magnification? Thanks in advance. Milton I am not sure how well compiz is supported, or if it is being superseded, but I love the e-zoom feature. With Mythbuntu LTS (and a bit of configuration) holding down the Tux/Windows/Super key and scrolling the mouse wheel puts the screen into a zoom and pan mode. Or, buy a bigger screen, and reconfigure everything to use large fonts, large icons, large pointers, etc. Sometimes you can cheat and tell the computer that the screen is a different size from what it really is - but things tend to get messy when you do that. -- blind Pete Sig goes here... -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: working with magnification
Milton wrote: I tried virtual Magnifyer Glass in GNOME Metacity. So my friend has to judge by himself if it is good enough. Last year I tried Compiz but I could not put the settings right. [snip] How far did you get? ccsm, check enable enhanced zoom desktop, set mouse zoom in button to SuperButton4 and mouse zoom out button to SuperButton5. -- blind Pete Sig goes here... -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Get information about Compiz
MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote: Hi, How can I know the latest release of Compiz? I see on launchpad 0.9.11 and 0.9.12, I cannot determine the current released one. Besides, can I be notified when a new release is done? I hope, from this, to download .orig and .dsc to see the packaging rules. Assuming that you have a reasonably normal system you will get security updates automatically. I have Compiz 0.9.7 on Ubuntu 12.04. If you want a newer version; start with a newer verison of Ubuntu, enable backports, maybe add an untrusted PPA from Launchpad. If you are despirate for the latest and the greatest you will have to get involved with development - and be prepared fro breakages. In parallel, how can I do this for Emerald? It's in a PPA but how can I know the official !elease and be notified of the release? Regards, Have you looked at all of the configuration options in your sofware updater? -- blind Pete Sig goes here... -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: how to set zoom functonality in Trusty?
Milton wrote: Hi Blind Pete, Many thanks. I also noticed that in the compizconfig-setting-manager in some combobox there are button1 til button20. I just wondering what button6 to button20 are. Milton [snip] Sorry, no idea. -- blind Pete Sig goes here... -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: how to set zoom functonality in Trusty?
Milton wrote: Hi Attila, The magnifier in Gnome-shell is working. I took a look in the compizconfig-setting-manager and I noticed the short cut keys for to increase and decrease the magnification with Shift_Super_button4 and Shift_Super_button5. Do you know what button4 and button5 are? Thanks in advance. Milton op 27-04-14 12:55, Hammer Attila schreef: I forgot to wrote the magnifier support related check box possible awailable only if you using GNOME Shell. For example if you installing gnome-session-flashback package and in Lightdm selecting the gnome flashback session, in GNOME Control Center Universal Access preference pane the magnifier related checkbox not available too. Attila Yes. Check to be sure, but I think it is; button1, left mouse button, button2, middle mouse button (press the scroll wheel), button3, right mouse button, button4, scroll the mouse wheel up (or down?), button5, scroll the mouse wheel down (or up?). -- blind Pete Sig goes here... -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: can't remove partitions in Vinux
Luke Yelavich wrote: On Mon, Apr 07, 2014 at 05:50:08PM EST, blind Pete wrote: Is your hard disk GPT or MBR? You could try gdisk or cgdisk for the former. For the latter try fdisk or cfdisk. I would argue to still use gparted. This is due to modern disks, particularly advanced format drives requiring correct partition alignment for best performance, and I have no idea whether those tools you mentioned do this properly. Gdisk maybe, but GPT has been around longer than advanced format drives. All of those partitioning programs, including gparted, are older than advanced format drives, and they have all been updated since. BTW advanced formatting (big sectors) has nothing to do with GPT (Gnu Partition Table). My point was that if one tool does not do what you want there is a (small) chance that it was because of a problem with the tool, and there are other tools to choose from. I say gparted, because under the hood it uses libparted, which is known to work properly with aligning partitions properly for newer drives. The Ubuntu and Debian installers also use libparted under the hood for partition management. Luke Consistency is a definite plus, but we are still waiting to hear back from the OP. -- blind Pete Sig goes here... -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: can't remove partitions in Vinux
Luke Yelavich wrote: On Sat, Apr 05, 2014 at 02:07:46PM EST, Lenny wrote: Hi, I messed my install of Vinux, so I booted up to a live copy, of the same version, 4.0, and in the terminal, I have tried unmounting some partitions from the messed Vinux and although they say unmounted when I run: sudo umount /dev/sda5 and sudo umount /dev/sda2 these partitions won't be deleted. I tried both in gparted and parted. This is probably because the swap partition is still in use. When a live instance of any Ubuntu based distro is booted, a check is made for a swap partition on any locally attached disks. If one is found, it is used. To turn this off, in a terminal run sudo swapoff -a. Luke swapon -s will show which swap partitions are active. More useful is the result of mount, that should list a dozen lines of information. gparted might not know about any unmountings that have happend from the command line. It expects unmounting to happen through its interface, but that problem will go away after a reboot. Is your hard disk GPT or MBR? You could try gdisk or cgdisk for the former. For the latter try fdisk or cfdisk. -- blind Pete Sig goes here... -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: What is the best way to launch Orca in Ubuntu 13.04 or later from the LiveDVD? Thanks!
Keith Hinton wrote: Pete: I'm not sure if you read my message or not. I read it. My hardware at this time is not supported in Vinux. How do you know? It is only supported in upstream Ubuntu as of 13.04 or later releases. I repeat, Vinux has a BACKPORTED kernel. That is, one transplanted from a newer release of Ubuntu - so that IT WILL SUPPORT MORE HARDWARE than Ubuntu 12.04 does. What I was asking was how to get Orca up and going with Ubuntu's Live system. If you are lucky; put the Vinux disc in the slot and turn the power on. When I last used Ubuntu, back in the Gnome2.x days you would: boot the media. Press f5. Hit 3 for screen reader. Press enter. So again my question is what is the best way to get Orca up and going especially if using the Unity environment? *I* think that the best way is to find a distribution that works out of the box, but you are free to do whatever you like. Unity is completely different, from any of the Gnome2.x days. And I thought I'd try Ubuntu 13.04, since my MacBookPro is supported. But 12.04 is not listed, in fact no LTS release supports what I'm trying to run Ubuntu on. I use a MacBook Pro model 8,1. For more details, please see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro Scan down the page. You'll see when you enter 8,1 that no LTS release supports the hardware thus why I can't use Vinux4. And thus my question about how to get Orca up and going with Ubuntu desktop. Cut-n-paste from the link given; MacBookPro 8,1 8,2 8,3: Ubuntu 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) Ubuntu 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal) Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat) end cut-n-paste. The missing version 12.04 is very odd, but since both older and newer versions are listed it looks like a documentation error rather than a real problem. Note also: you can not easily upgrade a DVD, only replace it with a newer one. So any question about Long Term Support is moot for a live CD or live DVD. Of course if you INSTALL it to your hard disk, that is a different story. -- blind Pete Sig goes here... -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: What is the best way to launch Orca in Ubuntu 13.04 or later from the Live DVD? Thanks!
Keith Hinton wrote: Hi folks: I tried to ask the question their in the subject. That being what is the best way to launch Orca for Ubuntu 13.04 and later in the Live DVD images? I'd like to try booting Ubuntu 13.04, on my MacBookPro, 8,1 model. But it's only Ubuntu 13.04 (and probably later) where this machine is supported. That's why I thought I'd ask. Thanks! What is only supported in 13.04? Look at http://vinuxproject.org/. It is only based on Ubuntu 12.04, but it has a backported kernel and it is preconfigured for Orca from a live boot. -- blind Pete Sig goes here... -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: A few questions concerning Ubuntu 13.04
Robert Cole wrote: Hello, everyone. I have enjoyed using fedora over the past year or so, but I just do not have time to solve the big problems which I am having with the system. My wife and family who use my system have run into quite a number of issues, and it makes their experience pretty unpleasant. I am thinking about moving back to Ubuntu, but I have a few questions: If you want to play with it, use the latest and greatest version. If just want something that works, consider the LTS (long term support) versions. 1) Does the problem with the Compiz eZoom plugin on Unity 3D still exist (e.g. only the desktop area si zoomed, but the panel and dash remain unaltered)? I have never used eZoom. Now that I know it exists I will play with it. Did you know that X has a zoom and pan feature that you can use accross all desktop managers? It is documented in man xorg.conf. ControlAltkeypad plus or minus to change through the circular list of modes. Unfortunately some of the video card driver maintainers do not, or even will not, make this work. They quite rightly say that the function could be better handled by desktop managers, things like eZoom I guess. Nvidia's closed source drivers do support Zoom and that is the reason that I buy nVidia cards, but even that has problems: driver versions in the low 300's have bad panning bugs, and it has always been a bit of a pain to set up. Be prepaired to spend some time on it if you go that way. 2) If I install GNOME Shell, will it be version 3.6 or 3.8? I appreciate your help on this one. Take care, everyone. -- blind Pete Sig goes here... -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
