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On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 10:07:10PM AEDT, Daniel Crone wrote: > Hello. On an external hard drive I have vinux 5, but thought of putting > ubuntu on it. > I welcome anyone’s advice as to which version of ubuntu might be most > accessible. Also, I would like to know if I might do better using gnome or > mate. At this point in time I suggest VInux 5. Vinux 5 comes with 3 desktop environments, Unity, GNOME Shell, and Mate. BTW, you didn't reply to the list, but to me only, so replying to the list which is where I think you meant the post to go. Luke -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: accessibility profiles, what is it and how it works?
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 09:28:59AM AEDT, B. Henry wrote: > Is there now, or will there in the planned future be an easy way to export > and import accessiblity profiles? If you have a profile, you can just drop it in /usr/share/a11y-profile-manager/profiles and it should be picked up. It does not make sense to put them in your home directory because a profile is much more useful if its available system wide. Having said that, it would probably be useful to have a tool that could export, import, and package up profiles to be shared. Editing profiles on the other hand is not likely to be as easy, given you are working with raw gsettings, so putting together a profile will be a matter of knowing the gsettings schema, the gsettings you want to change within that schema, and optionally the schema path, if that particular gsettings schema has a relocatable schema path. This will likely require knowledge of the settings of the applications you want to change. Further to this though, I think there is a way one can monitor for gsettings schema changes, so again it may be possible to make a tool that can monitor for changes, and gather them, and then save them for you into a file. You would then load the tool, run your app, change the settings you want changed, then save the file. At this point in time, there is no mechanism to support other settings systems or configuration file formats. Ini style file formats could be supported, but that would require another file format to define the ini file layout and expected values. Other database based settings systems could be supported if there was enough demand. Luke -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: accessibility profiles, what is it and how it works?
hi This is a fantastic idea. I can see lots of uses for this. In particular, this could be a wonderful edition to sonar once other desktops are supported. Thanks Kendell Clark B. Henry wrote: > This does indeed sound very good, and of course leads one to wonder about > sharing custom profiles. > Is there now, or will there in the planned future be an easy way to export > and import accessiblity profiles? > Thanks much to you and anyone who has worked on enhancing this functionality. > > > > -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: accessibility profiles, what is it and how it works?
This does indeed sound very good, and of course leads one to wonder about sharing custom profiles. Is there now, or will there in the planned future be an easy way to export and import accessiblity profiles? Thanks much to you and anyone who has worked on enhancing this functionality. -- B.H. Registerd Linux User 521886 Luke Yelavich wrote: Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 04:03:16PM +1100 > On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 09:31:46PM AEDT, Pavel Vlček wrote: > > Hi, > > after today's update, when I press alt f10 key, I get accessibility > > profiles menu. I am using Orca normally, but no profile was selected. > > I changed it to screen reader witch speech. What changet? I am using > > Ubuntu daily, to install the Ubuntu, I used live dvd from 10th March. > > Accessibility profiles are a way to facilitate the configuration of the > Ubuntu desktop for people with disabilities. An accessibility profile > contains settings that improve the usage of the desktop environment for > particular assistive technologies. > > Accessibility profiles have been around for many years now, I think as early > as Ubuntu 8.04, if not earlier, however until now, they have not been as easy > to work with. For one, they were only available in the live session or the > installer, and for another, they were not available post install, and were > hard coded in a shell script, that was only present in the live environment. > > As of Ubuntu 16.04, the accessibility profile system has been much > improved. The profiles are available on the live session, and during > installation, and also available post install. So for example, you can now > create a new user, log into that user, and enable a particular accessibility > profile for them, without having to manually tweak a bunch of settings. > > What you are seeing is the new accessibility profiles indicator. By default, > the indicator is enabled when any accessibility profile is enabled, > to allow the switching between profiles if the user so desires. The > indicator can be turned off from the universal access control panel, > under the accessibility profiles tab. > > One other advantage of the new accessibility profile system is you can now > create your own profiles, and they will appear in the indicator alongside > other profiles. The profile system allows for any gsettings key to be > changed when a profile is enabled. Creating a profile is not yet documented, > and thats something I have to work on, and it will likely be put on the > Ubuntu wiki under the accessibility section. > > Unfortunately due to time constraints, I was not able to implement this > support for all Gtk/GNOME based flavours of Ubuntu. Doing so would require > adding UI to the various desktop environments to allow the profiles > indicator or equivalent to be enabled/disabled. I would also have to > code extra modules to properly support GNOME shell, and Mate's own panel > applet system. Once this work is done however, the design is such that it > would then be possible for profiles to contain settings specifically for a > particular desktop environment, so you could have settings for mate that > would be applied when the profile is enabled, and those settings would > not be enabled under Unity or GNOME shell. > > Luke > > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility End of quoted content pgp5mbtw81jcw.pgp Description: PGP signature -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
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I now ask accessibility UBUNTU support Chinese operation? I am a user from China. ------ ??:"Luke?0?2Yelavich"<them...@ubuntu.com>; :2016??3??30??(??) 1:03 ??:"ubuntu-accessibility"<ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com>; ????:Re: accessibility profiles, what is it and how it works? On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 09:31:46PM AEDT, Pavel Vl?0?0ek wrote: > Hi, > after today's update, when I press alt f10 key, I get accessibility > profiles menu. I am using Orca normally, but no profile was selected. > I changed it to screen reader witch speech. What changet? I am using > Ubuntu daily, to install the Ubuntu, I used live dvd from 10th March. Accessibility profiles are a way to facilitate the configuration of the Ubuntu desktop for people with disabilities. An accessibility profile contains settings that improve the usage of the desktop environment for particular assistive technologies. Accessibility profiles have been around for many years now, I think as early as Ubuntu 8.04, if not earlier, however until now, they have not been as easy to work with. For one, they were only available in the live session or the installer, and for another, they were not available post install, and were hard coded in a shell script, that was only present in the live environment. As of Ubuntu 16.04, the accessibility profile system has been much improved. The profiles are available on the live session, and during installation, and also available post install. So for example, you can now create a new user, log into that user, and enable a particular accessibility profile for them, without having to manually tweak a bunch of settings. What you are seeing is the new accessibility profiles indicator. By default, the indicator is enabled when any accessibility profile is enabled, to allow the switching between profiles if the user so desires. The indicator can be turned off from the universal access control panel, under the accessibility profiles tab. One other advantage of the new accessibility profile system is you can now create your own profiles, and they will appear in the indicator alongside other profiles. The profile system allows for any gsettings key to be changed when a profile is enabled. Creating a profile is not yet documented, and thats something I have to work on, and it will likely be put on the Ubuntu wiki under the accessibility section. Unfortunately due to time constraints, I was not able to implement this support for all Gtk/GNOME based flavours of Ubuntu. Doing so would require adding UI to the various desktop environments to allow the profiles indicator or equivalent to be enabled/disabled. I would also have to code extra modules to properly support GNOME shell, and Mate's own panel applet system. Once this work is done however, the design is such that it would then be possible for profiles to contain settings specifically for a particular desktop environment, so you could have settings for mate that would be applied when the profile is enabled, and those settings would not be enabled under Unity or GNOME shell. Luke -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: accessibility profiles, what is it and how it works?
Hi, thanks for the detailed explanation. Look forward to the wiki article. cheers On 30/03/16 16:03, Luke Yelavich wrote: > On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 09:31:46PM AEDT, Pavel Vlček wrote: >> Hi, >> after today's update, when I press alt f10 key, I get accessibility >> profiles menu. I am using Orca normally, but no profile was selected. >> I changed it to screen reader witch speech. What changet? I am using >> Ubuntu daily, to install the Ubuntu, I used live dvd from 10th March. > Accessibility profiles are a way to facilitate the configuration of the > Ubuntu desktop for people with disabilities. An accessibility profile > contains settings that improve the usage of the desktop environment for > particular assistive technologies. > > Accessibility profiles have been around for many years now, I think as early > as Ubuntu 8.04, if not earlier, however until now, they have not been as easy > to work with. For one, they were only available in the live session or the > installer, and for another, they were not available post install, and were > hard coded in a shell script, that was only present in the live environment. > > As of Ubuntu 16.04, the accessibility profile system has been much > improved. The profiles are available on the live session, and during > installation, and also available post install. So for example, you can now > create a new user, log into that user, and enable a particular accessibility > profile for them, without having to manually tweak a bunch of settings. > > What you are seeing is the new accessibility profiles indicator. By default, > the indicator is enabled when any accessibility profile is enabled, > to allow the switching between profiles if the user so desires. The > indicator can be turned off from the universal access control panel, > under the accessibility profiles tab. > > One other advantage of the new accessibility profile system is you can now > create your own profiles, and they will appear in the indicator alongside > other profiles. The profile system allows for any gsettings key to be > changed when a profile is enabled. Creating a profile is not yet documented, > and thats something I have to work on, and it will likely be put on the > Ubuntu wiki under the accessibility section. > > Unfortunately due to time constraints, I was not able to implement this > support for all Gtk/GNOME based flavours of Ubuntu. Doing so would require > adding UI to the various desktop environments to allow the profiles > indicator or equivalent to be enabled/disabled. I would also have to > code extra modules to properly support GNOME shell, and Mate's own panel > applet system. Once this work is done however, the design is such that it > would then be possible for profiles to contain settings specifically for a > particular desktop environment, so you could have settings for mate that > would be applied when the profile is enabled, and those settings would > not be enabled under Unity or GNOME shell. > > Luke > -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: accessibility profiles, what is it and how it works?
On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 09:31:46PM AEDT, Pavel Vlček wrote: > Hi, > after today's update, when I press alt f10 key, I get accessibility > profiles menu. I am using Orca normally, but no profile was selected. > I changed it to screen reader witch speech. What changet? I am using > Ubuntu daily, to install the Ubuntu, I used live dvd from 10th March. Accessibility profiles are a way to facilitate the configuration of the Ubuntu desktop for people with disabilities. An accessibility profile contains settings that improve the usage of the desktop environment for particular assistive technologies. Accessibility profiles have been around for many years now, I think as early as Ubuntu 8.04, if not earlier, however until now, they have not been as easy to work with. For one, they were only available in the live session or the installer, and for another, they were not available post install, and were hard coded in a shell script, that was only present in the live environment. As of Ubuntu 16.04, the accessibility profile system has been much improved. The profiles are available on the live session, and during installation, and also available post install. So for example, you can now create a new user, log into that user, and enable a particular accessibility profile for them, without having to manually tweak a bunch of settings. What you are seeing is the new accessibility profiles indicator. By default, the indicator is enabled when any accessibility profile is enabled, to allow the switching between profiles if the user so desires. The indicator can be turned off from the universal access control panel, under the accessibility profiles tab. One other advantage of the new accessibility profile system is you can now create your own profiles, and they will appear in the indicator alongside other profiles. The profile system allows for any gsettings key to be changed when a profile is enabled. Creating a profile is not yet documented, and thats something I have to work on, and it will likely be put on the Ubuntu wiki under the accessibility section. Unfortunately due to time constraints, I was not able to implement this support for all Gtk/GNOME based flavours of Ubuntu. Doing so would require adding UI to the various desktop environments to allow the profiles indicator or equivalent to be enabled/disabled. I would also have to code extra modules to properly support GNOME shell, and Mate's own panel applet system. Once this work is done however, the design is such that it would then be possible for profiles to contain settings specifically for a particular desktop environment, so you could have settings for mate that would be applied when the profile is enabled, and those settings would not be enabled under Unity or GNOME shell. Luke -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
accessibility profiles, what is it and how it works?
Hi, after today's update, when I press alt f10 key, I get accessibility profiles menu. I am using Orca normally, but no profile was selected. I changed it to screen reader witch speech. What changet? I am using Ubuntu daily, to install the Ubuntu, I used live dvd from 10th March. In this dvd, there was not language select screen and try and install buttons. It booted to desktop, using English language. Can you explain please, how the accessibility profiles work? Thanks, Pavel -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
