Re: [ubuntu-art] Alternate Natty Wallpaper Proposal
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Сергей shnat...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I want to add my two cents because I've been a wiki admin for 1,5 years, and there are established and time-proved traditions of handling proposals and making decisions. I'll try to provide a summary of them: 1. Every collaborative task must be proposed to wider audience and accepted or declined by the community. 2. It must be absolutely evident that a proposal is just a proposal and may be changed or declined. As a consequence, it must not be located in production namespaces (read: keep it in personal ) 3. Decisions are made by reaching consensus of opinion, not by voting. 4. Admins have absolutely the same authority in making decisions as non-admins do. I'd be very happy if this is accepted for Artwork team as a rule. Regarding the initial topic, I think it's insane to have one pool for photos and illustrations alike. They cannot be judged in the same way nor compared; it's like comparing meters and kilograms. And I personally think that increasing community presence in default Ubuntu installation is great. A pick of top community themes (probably different in every release) also would be a perfect addition to look and feel of Ubuntu. One more thing. I doubt Canonical will endorse or not endorse this initiative. If I were Ivanka, I'd wait and see what it turns out, and then decide if any of these wallpapers make their way into default installation. Either way they must be at least available as a package from universe repository. Respectfully, -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art +1 Thank you, John -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Do you have good links to the Blender, Processing or a particular artwork community?
Hi! I just posted about the Edubuntu and Xubuntu wallpaper thing. This will appear on Planet Ubuntu: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2010/12/14/designing-wallpapers-for-edubuntu-and-xubuntu/ (I mentioned Lubuntu as often as I received replies to my last mail in that matter) I think we should invite users of Blender, Processing and any other free/open graphics applications and generative tools. Same for members of communities centering on illustration/drawing/photography. Please help with this, especially if you have a standing in a particular community. Go there, write an announcement/invitation in the appropriate place and manner. Act as point of contact. Tell us about your activity. If people have a problem with Flickr, make sure submissions are still collected in one place and we know about it. Few will care about Xubuntu and Edubuntu, but creating images that convey the desired message is an interesting challenge. That's the angle to sell this on. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Do you have good links to the Blender, Processing or a particular artwork community?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 11:34:32 +0100 Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de wrote: Hi! I just posted about the Edubuntu and Xubuntu wallpaper thing. This will appear on Planet Ubuntu: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2010/12/14/designing-wallpapers-for-edubuntu-and-xubuntu/ (I mentioned Lubuntu as often as I received replies to my last mail in that matter) I think we should invite users of Blender, Processing and any other free/open graphics applications and generative tools. Same for members of communities centering on illustration/drawing/photography. Please help with this, especially if you have a standing in a particular community. Go there, write an announcement/invitation in the appropriate place and manner. Act as point of contact. Tell us about your activity. If people have a problem with Flickr, make sure submissions are still collected in one place and we know about it. Few will care about Xubuntu and Edubuntu, but creating images that convey the desired message is an interesting challenge. That's the angle to sell this on. Thank you for the blog entry. It is very difficult to generate interest in these derivatives. However, for some of us, it is at least as important as Ubuntu wallpaper. I really appreciate your help and interest. - -- Charlie Kravetz Xubuntu Interim Project Lead Linux Registered User Number 425914 [http://counter.li.org/] Never let anyone steal your DREAM. [http://keepingdreams.com] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNB1w+AAoJEFNEIRz9dxbAhdQIAJ2pmXyaR1lOfjkj4V5P+l/x 3Yae28bJ+jrJRjHuviiuYPqhGBQpLRY/DobX2UfhBCkiU/L9l+OGpc70JeRSimyu Y+5zMVi12a2MeIZpnVOzSPmPEvESijaSSWyMditCnFLl7HQ2+AI05122iZDx+Dut JwQDlvWGSwBMdZw/MpXYr+IRXnbawZE520uhdykQwa/48X0by2Gm4VLL4bDdOwu5 18e8OnB9mAssK3o+NeFMb2Iv5UgzAGu2bX5YjnUmm7MQ+VCfnz7cdfJ/6Yu0QU32 oRGBTitQwQ74ILrlPXHW7+DoF48HmzEp5kv5NNfjwDudxtmSI35s82bJyLTvm+c= =4AZK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Do you have good links to the Blender, Processing or a particular artwork community?
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 5:34 AM, Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de wrote: Hi! I just posted about the Edubuntu and Xubuntu wallpaper thing. This will appear on Planet Ubuntu: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2010/12/14/designing-wallpapers-for-edubuntu-and-xubuntu/ (I mentioned Lubuntu as often as I received replies to my last mail in that matter) I think we should invite users of Blender, Processing and any other free/open graphics applications and generative tools. Same for members of communities centering on illustration/drawing/photography. Please help with this, especially if you have a standing in a particular community. Go there, write an announcement/invitation in the appropriate place and manner. Act as point of contact. Tell us about your activity. If people have a problem with Flickr, make sure submissions are still collected in one place and we know about it. Few will care about Xubuntu and Edubuntu, but creating images that convey the desired message is an interesting challenge. That's the angle to sell this on. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art Thorwil, +1 to Charlie's comments! Thank you. Best regards, John -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Personal Appeal for Change
Vish, With respect and without malice I am asking that you please stop deleting Wiki content and restore the content you removed. Kind regards, John -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Alternate Natty Wallpaper Proposal
On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 11:27 -0500, John Baer wrote: On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Vishnoo v...@ubuntu.com wrote: However, It is not clear what this alternative wallpaper task is meant for? Is this aimed as an addition to default wallpaper? And to be included in the ubuntu-wallpapers package? How different is it from the flickr submissions from the community: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFreeCultureShowcase (This page is a bit outdated, there is another one somewhere out there.) AFAIK in the past all of the alternate wallpapers come as photo's from the Ubuntu Flickr group noted above. My proposal is to open this up for illustrations. Or is it for a replacement of the default wallpapers done by Canonical team? I am unaware of Canonical's desire. As noted above this UbuntuFreeCultureShowcase is still closed. No, kindly do your groundwork before forming conclusions and starting new processes. It hasnt started for this Natty cycle. As mentioned earlier, there is a section for illustrations too. More info that the process is not closed: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2010-November/012476.html Already announced on this very same artwork-mailing list. Also see gobby document : multimedia-design-n-freeculture-showcase https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/multimedia-design-n-freeculture-showcase You were already subscribed to the blueprint. And I'v just moved the gobby document contents to the blueprint. If you are having trouble finding resources or plans for the upcoming cycle, just ask. Someone who knows, where they could be located, will just direct you. This rash behavior is starting to get highly counter-productive and bordering on being disruptive. -- Vish -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Alternate Natty Wallpaper Proposal
Regarding the initial topic, I think it's insane to have one pool for photos and illustrations alike. They cannot be judged in the same way nor compared; it's like comparing meters and kilograms. I don't think comparing illustrations to photos is more problematic than comparing landscape and macro photography ;) Skipping this whole discussion of wiki-fu,, which I have no opinions in; I respectfully disagree, when comparing 2 types of photos the skillset to look for quite similar. Skill of photographer, framing, interestingness of subject matter etc... With illustrations its a similar skillset, but the values placed on certain items are different. Exactly for this reason the submissions should be in the pool, where the jury will see them in any case. Not to mince my words here, but the jury is a bunch of philandering photographers, and not likely to select any illustration wallpapers. They have no way of tapping into the breadth of experience which lets them choose macro shots of flowers and rope for every release. If we are to have illustration wallpapers, let me throw this up: lets make a smaller pool of illustrative artwork, and yes, moderate it ourselves. But at the end of this cycle lets put up a community-illustration-wallpapers package out on the repos. This has the added benefit of testing: 1. seeing how many quality submissions there are. 1.1 this may mean (collective groaning) looking through DA group. and convincing those artists to contribute. 2. seeing if official ubuntu is interested. 2.1 if yes, then they can take over moderating the next cycle 2.2 if no, then the least they can do is throw up a blog post (3.1) 3. seeing if we as a team can get enough people to actually install our packages. 3.1 whether we can drum up some publicity for this package 4. if it all goes down the crapper, then we are left with a few good submissions for the community wallpaper package. Cons: 1.It's work that may ultimately produce nothing 2. (click the reply button, I know you all have some things.) -- Saleel -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Please complete our survey
On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 21:30:00 +, Ivanka Majic ivanka.ma...@canonical.com wrote: Hello everyone, Please can you take the time to fill in this survey? http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/36WWXCF ... It will probably take about 15 minutes to complete and, the more detail you include the better! Best, Ivanka 15 minutes indeed, that was quiet a long survey.. :p Anyways. I read the question about: How do find out about new projects? Now I've looked at this question and compared all ways I ever found out about a project, theirwhere three: IRC, website/wiki, ML. I found that non would be a perfect solution. Especially for big groups they all have their downsides: * A website or wiki (whitout a reminder in the ML or IRC) allways has a lack of notification. Therefor it isn't a good idea as many people will forget to check for it. * IRC is the way I usually find out about projects of Ubuntu-be. But we have only a small core of members and every real decision is made via the IRC channel. (Or at least clarified via IRC) That's why we have an IRC meeting every week. But when you are with +200 members the IRC would be to bulky, also with the timezones and stuff not even half of all people would get to the IRC meetings. * So the only other solution is the ML. Especially for big groups of people this is a nice way to communicate. It rules out the need of being online at the same time, everyone checks their mails so will be notified and you are sure everyone gets the info he needs. But there is a problem with the ML. When posting reports of meetings or guidelines or whatever there isn't really a problem, as long everything is clear that is. And lets face it, not everything is clear all the time. People have questions about details, there has to be some chatting to get every1 on the same track. The ML isn't a sufficient way to do that: In an IRC message you can chat quite fast about something but on an ML it takes days to get something solved. With 9 projects running currently and different questions going for each project you get either a dozen mails a day or just 2 message1...10 mails. Something like: 1. Re: Alternate Natty Wallpaper Proposal (Thorsten Wilms) 2. Re: Alternate Natty Wallpaper Proposal (John Baer) ... 6. Re: Alternate Natty Wallpaper Proposal (Thorsten Wilms) 7. Re: Alternate Natty Wallpaper Proposal (Vishnoo) 8. Please complete our survey (Ivanka Majic) isn't always that clear. So after thinking everything true I personally think that in an ideal situation for Ubuntu-Artwork: - IRC meetings provide answer to big concerns - reports of the meetings are send via the ML - proposals and new project approvals are announced in the ML - each project has his own landing page on the wiki (as it is now) [but with a subscribe to sub-ML button] - each project has his own sub-ML regarding only things about that project (so you don't get bothered with questions about project that don't interest you) - each landing page has a log of the sub-ML messages (so people joining later can get a good overview about what has been said). I'd love to know how you guys think about this! [yes I know this will make the ML even more full of things no-one wants to read] PS: I loved the survey, I hope a lot of useful information can be gathered from it. kind regards woutervddn -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Alternate Natty Wallpaper Proposal
On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 09:48 -0500, Saleel Velankar wrote: If we are to have illustration wallpapers, let me throw this up: lets make a smaller pool of illustrative artwork, and yes, moderate it ourselves. But at the end of this cycle lets put up a community-illustration-wallpapers package out on the repos. This has the added benefit of testing: 1. seeing how many quality submissions there are. 1.1 this may mean (collective groaning) looking through DA group. and convincing those artists to contribute. 2. seeing if official ubuntu is interested. 2.1 if yes, then they can take over moderating the next cycle 2.2 if no, then the least they can do is throw up a blog post (3.1) 3. seeing if we as a team can get enough people to actually install our packages. 3.1 whether we can drum up some publicity for this package 4. if it all goes down the crapper, then we are left with a few good submissions for the community wallpaper package. I'm not opposed to a single pool for non-photo wallpapers, if you are that eager, but please not several. I would also lean towards keeping it open, that is: not tied to a release. I still think ending up with a choice of quality wallpapers for Edubuntu and Xubuntu will be a step forward, already. I expect that at least one person (ideally at least 2, one as fallback), volunteers for packaging beforehand. If no one takes ownership, you can forget it. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Alternate Natty Wallpaper Proposal
I'm not opposed to a single pool for non-photo wallpapers, if you are that eager, but please not several. +1 I would also lean towards keeping it open, that is: not tied to a release. +100500 I expect that at least one person (ideally at least 2, one as fallback), volunteers for packaging beforehand. If no one takes ownership, you can forget it. I can do the packaging (hey, that's easy!), but I'm not a MOTU and don't have upload rights to Ubuntu archives. Respectfully, -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Alternate Natty Wallpaper Proposal
I would also lean towards keeping it open, that is: not tied to a release. +100500 Ugh, I mean... Look at the default wallpaper pool. It has thousands of submissions and uses one pool for all releases. We won't have that many submissions, and it's good to have everything in one place, because it will be easier to search older submissions for inspiration or remixing. I think it's kind of our duty to keep all submissions organized and accessible, because if we don't use something, somebody else will likely find it useful, and keeping everything easy-to-find is a matter of respect to both the author and users/remixers. What's more, it's a matter of improving libre artwork in general. Respectfully, -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Free Culture Showcase History - was Re: Alternate Natty Wallpaper Proposal
On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 09:48 -0500, Saleel Velankar wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 19:52 +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote: Exactly for this reason the submissions should be in the pool, where the jury will see them in any case. Not to mince my words here, but the jury is a bunch of philandering photographers, and not likely to select any illustration wallpapers. OK. Everyone kindly calm down. It is very, very highly disturbing that one person's over-eagerness and inability to even try to listen to what others are saying, ends up being the cause of so much confusion and disruption in a team. As the *only* /community/ member who attended, in-person, /both/ the free culture showcase sessions(during UDS-M and UDS-N), lead by the design team, let me try to clear a few things up. Until Lucid, Free culture showcase was run by the Community-Team. (not Canonical design team or Ubuntu Artwork team). Till Lucid, it was only about the content in the Examples folder. If anyone remembers those, you'd realize it had nothing to do with wallpapers Noting the success of the wallpaper collection contest the Design team had done, Community team decided to hand-over this Free Culture task to the Design team. So for maverick, the Free Culture Showcase was open for several other tasks, including illustrative wallpapers to be submitted on *deviantart* , as listed here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFreeCultureShowcase The judges for the illustrative wallpapers were /not/ meant to be the same from the flickr photo pool. Each section, illustrative/photographic/sound/video , was to have relevant judges. However, members from the Design team who were incharge of certain tasks related to illustrative wallpapers switched jobs from Canonical and eventually their tasks fell in no-man's land. Do try to remember that the illustrative wallpaper was first tried for *only* in the Maverick cycle and it's absence in Maverick is not because of the judges from flickr not choosing the illustrations. It was only due to tasks being lost in the process. For Natty again, we have the same Free Culture task running: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/multimedia-design-n-freeculture-showcase We did discuss who should be the judges and Do note, there is a task for Ivanka Organise judging by professionals If there is a confusion regarding the judges, someone just start a new thread regarding that and hopefully we'd have Ivanka replying there. If anyone has any questions just ask them. Kindly do not speculate and confuse everyone! -- Cheers, Vish -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Alternate Natty Wallpaper Proposal
I'm not opposed to a single pool for non-photo wallpapers, if you are that eager, but please not several. I would also lean towards keeping it open, that is: not tied to a release. I can see the sense behind that, this would be okay . I still think ending up with a choice of quality wallpapers for Edubuntu and Xubuntu will be a step forward, already. Very much agreed, since those have clearly defined specs, I have higher hopes for those. I am seeing this pool as a place for filtering some of the wider areas of Ubuntu wallpapers that exist out there, that aren't grown to spec: the kind of stuff that are texture walls and light walls, maybe even some illustrations. Stuff that as of now has no real home, but is definitely *for* Ubuntu. This is stuff that is *not * going to make it if included in freecultureshowcase. We could invite/find this stuff and put it in a a community package, and give it some eyeballs. It would hopefully make some of these artists willing to work on other stuff with us. I expect that at least one person (ideally at least 2, one as fallback), volunteers for packaging beforehand. If no one takes ownership, you can forget it. I can do the packaging (hey, that's easy!), but I'm not a MOTU and don't have upload rights to Ubuntu archives. Sergey, I am sure we can work around that. Thanks so much for volunteering! As the backup, could we simply release on the web? -- Saleel -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Free Culture Showcase History - was Re: Alternate Natty Wallpaper Proposal
IIRC this years FCS will be focused on an overarching theme of light(?) and ubuntu specific stuff will be turned down. Here is the thing, my proposal for new non photo pool covers stuff that was clearly made for Ubuntu, yet not made because of a request, or a spec. These walls are being made already by enthusiastic members of the larger Ubuntu community, and some are very good and yet they don't seem to have a home. Instead I have to trawl DA for a half an hour and sift through. Giving it a community package allows us : *to get in greater contact with those artists, and hopefully get them onboard for any new spec'd projects. *to engage the wider community. *bring greater amounts of eyeballs on made for ubu walls *bring greater eyeballs to our own spec'd projects *bring convenience to people that are looking for these types of walls *help bring awareness and guidance to using the new branding guidelines I didn't think that this is such a radical proposal as all that. It is simply addressing a need that seems to be present within Ubuntu users for these walls. I certainly did not mean to cause any confusion or disruption, and do profusely apologize if it did occur. --Saleel -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Free Culture Showcase History - was Re: Alternate Natty Wallpaper Proposal
On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 14:22 -0500, Saleel Velankar wrote: I didn't think that this is such a radical proposal as all that. Right, you did switch the focus of the initial proposal(which aims at the default install). The initial proposal though is an unnecessary duplication of efforts, with no real probability of being accepted for a default. The Ubuntu community desires to ... To aide in meeting this objective a selection of alternate wallpapers is shipped *by default* .. I dint comment about your new idea. An additional wallpaper package in the universe repo is not a major issue, a community package seems fine and feasible. If we want to do it, we can get help from MOTU and upload it. Shouldnt be a big hassle. -- Cheers, Vish -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Free Culture Showcase History - was Re: Alternate Natty Wallpaper Proposal
Right, you did switch the focus of the initial proposal(which aims at the default install). The initial proposal though is an unnecessary duplication of efforts, with no real probability of being accepted for a default. The Ubuntu community desires to ... To aide in meeting this objective a selection of alternate wallpapers is shipped *by default* .. I'll focus on stuff that is achievable right now, but my opinions on the original idea still stand I am afraid, I really do think that there ought to be a separate pool for abstract and nonphoto default wall proposals, and they do deserve a decent jury. but nevermind, that is a discussion to be shelved for a later date. -- Saleel -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Free Culture Showcase History - was Re: Alternate Natty Wallpaper Proposal
On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 15:46 -0500, Saleel Velankar wrote: I'll focus on stuff that is achievable right now, but my opinions on the original idea still stand I am afraid, I really do think that there ought to be a separate pool for abstract and nonphoto default wall proposals, and they do deserve a decent jury. but nevermind, that is a discussion to be shelved for a later date. Separate jury and separate pool was exactly how it was supposed to happen for Maverick. It was planned, and submission were included on deviantart http://ubuntu-artists.deviantart.com/blog/33090159/ but the judging just dint happen. -- Cheers, Vish -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Free Culture Showcase History - was Re: Alternate Natty Wallpaper Proposal
On Wed, 2010-12-15 at 02:38 +0530, Vishnoo wrote: On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 15:46 -0500, Saleel Velankar wrote: I'll focus on stuff that is achievable right now, but my opinions on the original idea still stand I am afraid, I really do think that there ought to be a separate pool for abstract and nonphoto default wall proposals, and they do deserve a decent jury. but nevermind, that is a discussion to be shelved for a later date. Separate jury and separate pool was exactly how it was supposed to happen for Maverick. It was planned, and submission were included on deviantart http://ubuntu-artists.deviantart.com/blog/33090159/ but the judging just dint happen. The gallery for the free culture showcase : http://ubuntu-artists.deviantart.com/gallery/25667683 Martin finally gave up trying to get those results: http://ubuntu-artists.deviantart.com/blog/35791192/ So everyone, tickle Martin regarding that for Natty, he did make sure he attended the Natty session.. ;) -- Cheers, Vish -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] A Personal Appeal for Change (2nd request)
Vish, Again, with respect and without malice I am asking that you please stop deleting Wiki content and restore the content you removed. Kind regards, John -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Alternate Natty Wallpaper Proposal
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Saleel Velankar svela...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not opposed to a single pool for non-photo wallpapers, if you are that eager, but please not several. I would also lean towards keeping it open, that is: not tied to a release. I can see the sense behind that, this would be okay . I still think ending up with a choice of quality wallpapers for Edubuntu and Xubuntu will be a step forward, already. Very much agreed, since those have clearly defined specs, I have higher hopes for those. I am seeing this pool as a place for filtering some of the wider areas of Ubuntu wallpapers that exist out there, that aren't grown to spec: the kind of stuff that are texture walls and light walls, maybe even some illustrations. Stuff that as of now has no real home, but is definitely *for* Ubuntu. This is stuff that is *not * going to make it if included in freecultureshowcase. We could invite/find this stuff and put it in a a community package, and give it some eyeballs. It would hopefully make some of these artists willing to work on other stuff with us. I expect that at least one person (ideally at least 2, one as fallback), volunteers for packaging beforehand. If no one takes ownership, you can forget it. I can do the packaging (hey, that's easy!), but I'm not a MOTU and don't have upload rights to Ubuntu archives. Sergey, I am sure we can work around that. Thanks so much for volunteering! As the backup, could we simply release on the web? -- Saleel -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art It looks like we have support to move forward with this. In my mind this will add value to Ubuntu and the greater community and what an opportunity to work other teams toward the same goal. Thank you for the discussion. John -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Alternate Natty Wallpaper Proposal
It looks like we have support to move forward with this. In my mind this will add value to Ubuntu and the greater community and what an opportunity to work other teams toward the same goal. I dont see too much support for the original proposal, indeed looking at it I can see that it is nothing like what I am proposing now. Sorry John, but I am against your original proposal. -- Saleel -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
