[Bug 66566]

2018-12-14 Thread Alexander-kern
(In reply to gpy98671 from comment #148)

gpy98671 until the team changes it's opinion on this, which doesn't look
likely, there would need to be an extension to get your desired
functionality back. However AFAIK webextensions do not have this
capability right now. You can join the conversation here to follow the
progress and/or help/get help:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1215061

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[Bug 66566]

2018-12-14 Thread Alexander-kern
Jesse, you can follow the progress of the issue/bug for better keyboard 
shortcut control here https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1215061
When it's done there can be extensions that change this behavior. It is a bit 
unfortunate the change to webextensions was rushed and now we are missing some 
features.

:Gijs, I don't know how to tag people here so I hope posting here again
is ok to contact you. Could you show me the lines where you changed this
code so I can have a look at it? Because on the issue I created it was
said that it might be too much development effort to fix the issue
(resolving the inconsistency of pressing multiple modifiers and enter in
the navbar). Thank you!

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2018-12-12 Thread Alexander-kern
Followup issues for inconsistencies of combinations and search input added:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1506203
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1506247
respectively.

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[Bug 66566]

2018-12-12 Thread Alexander-kern
Hey all, I think opening a new tab in background in a fast way/without
leaving the current page is very useful. I had an extension for that but
it's no longer possible because webext API does not offer that
possibility. That's why I'm following this bug closely. However now I'm
surprised. Here are all the things that happen on Firefox nightly 64.0a1
(2018-09-06) (64-Bit):

ctrl: add www..com
ctrl shift: www.com (should be add www..com in new window?)
shift: new window foreground
alt: new tab foreground
alt ctrl: add www..com and open in new tab foreground
alt shift: nothing happens, should be default action in tab background or new 
window background?
alt shift ctrl: www.com new tab background

The name/description of this bug is "Inconsistent "open in new tab"
shortcuts (Ctrl+Enter for links, but Alt+Enter in address bar and search
bar)"

So I think the changes now are useful, but do they solve the original
issue? Ctrl+Enter still doesn't open a new tab in background, like it
does everywhere else. I suggest:

ctrl: open in new tab in background
shift: open in new window in foreground
alt: Doesn't matter to me, maybe add www..com so people who want it still have 
it or keep it as new tab in foreground (but what's the advantage of that? just 
hit ctrl+t)
ctrl shift: open in new window in background
alt shift: like alt but in new window in foreground
alt ctrl: like alt but in new background tab
alt shift ctrl: like alt but in new window in background

What do you think? Sorry, I don't want to stand in the way of closing
this or marking it as fixed, but it doesn't seem to address the original
point to me. Anyway thanks for the changes and reading this.

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2018-12-12 Thread Alexander-kern
Hi! Yes it is possible! Well no to be exact, not possible with
ctrl+enter but with ctrl+shift+enter instead. You can try the newest
nightly/alpha/Aurora version of Firefox and test it out yourself. So you
could use it right now :-)

So if Webextensions can modify about:config settings you could revive your 
extension but with ctrl+shift+enter instead. I don't think it's possible for 
Webextensions to edit that keyboard command (some others like ctrl+f are 
possible to rewrite though). If you want to track progress on that issue, it is 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1215061
However enter is not even a keyboard shortcut I suppose so it is probably not 
affected by that issue, right?

Oh and it's not possible with the search bar right now! They don't seem
to share the code. Is that considered as a bug? :Gijs?

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2018-12-12 Thread Alexander-kern
(Yeah, but not using the URL bar is just not as nice. For example look &
feel, use search & bookmarks keywords, afaik.)

Ah thanks, I missed the mention of that pref! Well I'd rather have it
not be consistent, but I understand your reasoning and gave my opinion.

Still, should the combinations not stack like ctrl+shift canonize and
open in new window? alt+ctrl does already stack as expected (canonize
and open new tab). Why does only that stack? And alt+shift to open in
new background tab would be incredibly useful for users who don't want
to mess with about:config or don't know about it. They can just find it
by trying it out or understanding how stacking should work.

Anyway this is a followup issue and you said you wanted this bug to be
closed, so if I don't hear back soon I'll submit a new ticket. Thanks!

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2018-12-12 Thread Alexander-kern
Hello, can we have alt+return open the page in the background? It's
useful when you want to do something later. If you want to focus the
page immediately, like Firefox does right now for alt+return, you can
just use ctrl+t so I don't understand why alt+return opens in foreground
too since there is already ctrl+t for that.

Before there was the extension background tabs but there is no
Webextension version of that.

Thanks for reading

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2018-12-12 Thread Alexander-kern
Hi Aaron,
muscle memory is a reasonable point to me. However you could say the same about 
the people who muscle memorized the current function maybe.
Your three listed points all look legit to me. For all of them, opening in new 
*background* tab instead of new tab in focus is actually a better option I 
suppose. Especially your last point
> * reload the same page in a background tab
As it is right now you'd have to wait for the site to finish loading up (or 
switch back to your other tab).
Kind regards

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2018-12-12 Thread Alexander-kern
Hi Christopher, I kinda agree. However the change may be confusing for users 
who use the ctrl+enter to add .com. What is your suggestion for that shortcut? 
Swap it with alt+enter? Also, the current "open in new tab" doesn't really make 
sense to me. If one wants to immediately switch to that tab, one can also just 
use ctrl+t. Maybe then change that behaviour to "open in new background tab" 
just like the extension does? But this may be out of the scope for this issue.
Kind regards

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2018-12-12 Thread Alexander-kern
Hi all, the extension background tabs works for that purpose. It's also
extra useful because it opens the url you put in in a new background
tab. If you want to open it and also focus you can use ctrl+t.

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