[Bug 398368] [NEW] GDM face directory on user tab issue
Public bug reported: In systemadministrationlogin window, in the last tab - users, the global face directory defaults to /faces but if you somehow try to change it, there is no way to go back into a sub directory, all you have as options are the places and folders that would be displayed in your nautilus side pane. There is no way to change or select specific directories. It also sometimes changes at random to different directories when you browse around for the default face right above it. ** Affects: hundredpapercuts Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Affects: gdm (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Also affects: gdm (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- GDM face directory on user tab issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/398368 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 392518] Re: Two Desktop GNOME panels unnecessary
Ok I know this is not befitting of a serious and useful place like Launchpad, but that seriously calls for a.ROFL :D Klicki, you do not know what you have just done, you have opened a pandora's box. I would suggest, run and do not look back :D. Are you new to Linux or Linux forums? People HATE it when anyone suggests be like windows just for the sake of it or to attract windows users. Linux is Linux, for any change, there should be a good reason irrespective of windows. That windows does it a certain way is all the more reason for most Linux users to NOT want it like that. Windows is a dirty word hehe. So I could not stop laughing when I read this: Simply change the default layout in Ubuntu, so that it resembles (visually and behavior-wise) Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Kubuntu, … It's so easy to do and would make switching to Ubuntu so much user-friendler.. Not my views, but just the way things are in Linux forums, you might not get bashed and flamed here because this is launchpad and usually full of mature devs and similar people but on user forums, what you suggested (actually the way you suggested it) would go down very badly with the enthusiasts. I actually agree with you on most points but not simply because Windows does it, but because Windows, KDE and Mac do it a certain way simply because it is a better way. Many people consider KDE a sell out because of its Windows like taskbar. -- Two Desktop GNOME panels unnecessary https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/392518 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 390735] Re: Colour of font on panel and desktop should be customisable
** Also affects: gnome-panel (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Colour of font on panel and desktop should be customisable https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/390735 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 392518] Re: Two Desktop GNOME panels unnecessary
** Also affects: gnome-panel (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Two Desktop GNOME panels unnecessary https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/392518 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 73343] Re: Gnome-panel locks each applet (or each element). Global lock is better
I know this bug report is a duplicate and seems to be marked confirmed and triaged (except for the 100 bugs project) but I think it should be considered for the 100 papercuts project because the older bugs were filed and appraised 2 and 3 years ago (and not as part of this project) and still haven't been fixed upstream! Is anyone even looking at them now? If ubuntu could fix it for its distribution it would be nice especially because it seems to be a trivial change and fits perfectly into the papercut definition. Thanks -- Gnome-panel locks each applet (or each element). Global lock is better https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/73343 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 389287] Re: gnome-panel lock feature should be panel-wide
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 73343 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/73343 I know this bug report is a duplicate, but I think it should be considered for the 100 papercuts project because the older bugs were filed 2 and 3 years ago (and not as part of this project) and still haven't been fixed upstream! Is anyone even looking at them now? If ubuntu could fix it for its distribution it would be nice especially because it seems to be a trivial change and fits perfectly into the papercut definition. Thanks -- gnome-panel lock feature should be panel-wide https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/389287 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 392518] Re: Two Desktop GNOME panels unnecessary
** Also affects: ubuntu Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Package changed: ubuntu = ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) -- Two Desktop GNOME panels unnecessary https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/392518 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 390735] Re: Colour of font on panel and desktop should be customisable
** Also affects: meta-gnome2 (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Colour of font on panel and desktop should be customisable https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/390735 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 390724] Re: Back button (most used) in Nautilus smaller than rest
Well I had too. You still don't seem to understand that this is not a subjective issue based on my perception. Its an objective design flaw. I just tested some other GTK apps and this issue could not get funnier. In Eye of Gnome, you have a customisable toolbar. Try dragging a button with a long name (such as properties, slideshow, show last) and see what happens. ALL the buttons readjust their size in order to be the same size as the largest button. So the button wraps around the text of the largest button and all the others adjust to that largest size for consistency. Works much better than Nautilus. Earlier I thought maybe the GNOME HIG were flawed, but certainly the discrepancy between EoG and Nautilus means one of them isn't following the guidelines. So definitely a bug and not my opinion. With you buttons to fit labels paradigm, you could potentially have all buttons of different sizes. That would certainly be a nightmare. I have nothing further to say. No more spam from this end. -- Back button (most used) in Nautilus smaller than rest https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/390724 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 390724] Re: Back button (most used) in Nautilus smaller than rest
mac_v, Your screenshot looks much much better than the default. The spacing too looks consistent. I don't know how the actual code works and know nothing about programming, but from what I see at the UI level, the two drop down buttons are separate buttons (seem to be be even if they aren't) from the Back and Forward buttons. So why is BACK a separate widget from every other button like UP,HOME? It could be the same and the drop down arrow be separate. Ideally a much better way of doing it would be to have only one single drop down arrow for both the BACK AND FORWARD. This is the method adopted in Firefox by Mozilla and numerous other File managers and Web browsers. It's merits are obvious, both the drop down currently show the same set cut into two pieces determined by where you currently are. In a single arrow implementation, it will show a full history with a radio button/dot to indicate where you currently are. ' Furthermore, the HOME button needs to go (the STOP and RELOAD are also fairly useless but can come into play when browsing files over the network, they could and should be combined however). All of this just increases productivity and more importantly space efficiency, which is very important for users with smaller screens which are now very popular due to this small little (pun intended) not-so-transient fad callednetbooks. But since I can barely convince people of the current issue, I guess I better just leave all that alone :P But wait! what is this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/386150 Wow, now THOSE are big changes, and it gets a CONFIRMED tag! Does that mean it will be implemented in 9.10? :D Lol and here I am pushing for a slightly larger back button. -- Back button (most used) in Nautilus smaller than rest https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/390724 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 390724] Re: Back button (most used) in Nautilus smaller than rest
Lol, yeah I know. I meant your work modifying it is great. I have another usability question. If GNOME has so designed Nautilus that the button wraps around the text, what the hell happens when in some non-English language, the back and forward words are so mismatched that one is very long and one is very short? Does one button then look twice as big as the other? Further evidence of bad design! Ideally, the buttons would be identical and then you would adjust whatever is to be displayed accordingly. Ultimately the button and it's icon are the important things [universal to understand], the text is just there for new users and to improve usability. -- Back button (most used) in Nautilus smaller than rest https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/390724 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 390724] Re: Back button (most used) in Nautilus smaller than rest
** Attachment added: Up button http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28246854/Up%20button.png -- Back button (most used) in Nautilus smaller than rest https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/390724 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 390724] Re: Back button (most used) in Nautilus smaller than rest
** Attachment added: Forward button http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28246864/Forward%20button.png -- Back button (most used) in Nautilus smaller than rest https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/390724 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 390724] Re: Back button (most used) in Nautilus smaller than rest
** Attachment added: Forward button http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28246865/Forward%20button.png -- Back button (most used) in Nautilus smaller than rest https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/390724 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 390724] Re: Back button (most used) in Nautilus smaller than rest
Sorry for multiple posts, could not figure out how to get multiple attachments in the same post. Anyway above I have posted the Up and forward buttons for comparison and this here is the back button. Default 'text below icons' and default themes (although I did not see it change in any of the 20+ themes I tried, the problem remains). Even redundant and useless buttons such as Home and Stop are bigger and the same size as the rest. I mean seriously, a STOP button in a file manager? :D That too not combined with a reload button, is that some sort of easter egg or in- joke :D ** Attachment added: Back Button http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28247127/Back%20button.png -- Back button (most used) in Nautilus smaller than rest https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/390724 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 390724] Re: Back button (most used) in Nautilus smaller than rest
No. Else the UP button should be even smaller. So it is not adapted to the label just like it isn't a theme issue, I tried a dozen themes, nothing fixed it and anyway, the default theme that matters has the issue as well. If it is indeed adapted to the label, then it definately is a traditional bug since the adaptation is inconsistent (since the UP is so big) Otherwise I agree its not a traditional bug but it is exactly the sort of issue the 100 bugs project is for. Quoting From: https://launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts - bugs that are system-wide (Nautilus, Gnome panel, etc), rather than app-specific (F-Spot, OOo, Terminal, etc.) - bugs that impact standard workflows (like connecting to the network, copying files, browsing folders, etc.), rather than specialised or corner case workflows - bugs that are easy to address, rather that ones that require significant design or development efforts - issues with existing features, rather than requests for new features - bugs that relate to usability and design (like size of the notification bubbles), rather than broken software (e.g. notifications flickering in fullscreen) Point by point: -This is system wide and is to do with Nautilus as stated by first criteria -It is to do with browsing folders as stated by second criteria -It is easy to address as stated by third criteria, it won't take a re write or significant tweaking to fix, it's a very minor UI change -It is to do with an existing feature as stated by fourth criteria -It is precisely to do with usability AND design as stated by final criteria, besides, the example of the size of notification bubbles in amusingly analogous to this issue of size of the most used file browser button. I would be hard pressed to find an issue that fits the stated criteria of the 100 bugs project better. -- Back button (most used) in Nautilus smaller than rest https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/390724 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 390724] Re: Back button (most used) in Nautilus smaller than rest
Look I am not on a personal crusade to get a bigger back button :D It's just that when I saw this 100 bugs project, it made me think, this is EXACTLY what Ubuntu needed since its a little rough around the edges, these are the sort of things that affect the perception of people as to whether or not Ubuntu is a polished product. Design consistency is a very basic design principle and one that everyone should be able to understand. The fact that right now it is inconsistent cannot be disputed for the reasons I have already outlined above. But this issue is not only to do with design or UI, rather it is also a much bigger usability issue. See this to get all technical about the issue: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fitts_law To experienced UI designers, the current Nautilus window will immediately standout as wierd. It's not just that the back button is small, its more to do with the fact that it is smallER than the other buttons despite being one of the most important (if not the most important) on that toolbar. What further violates the law is that totally redundant or little used buttons such as STOP, RELOAD and HOME are much bigger than it. This is not just personal preference, the stop/reload buttons are fairly redundant in a file browser, they could become more important while browsing over the network (local or wide area) but even then they would never be used as often as BACK. Similarly HOME is made redundant by the side pane showing the file directory. Hope that is sufficient detail to get this rectified in 9.10 -- Back button (most used) in Nautilus smaller than rest https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/390724 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 390724] Re: Back button (most used) in Nautilus smaller than rest
If they indeed are, then that makes the issue worse, not better, because now it's bad design since it is by intention, not just an oversight. Like I explained above, this is not a matter of my personal preference but derived from basic principles of design. Why would it look weird to have similar sized buttons?? Design consistency will look weird? That all GTK apps use such a system is not a defence, its not a good thing. Just for knowledge though, in which other app can I see the same behaviour? I haven't myself seen asymmetric back/forward buttons in other apps. EOG/Gthumb etc have equal sized ones but I guess that is because they do not have the drop down arrow next to them and no text to fit to either. I don't use epiphany but looking at the screenshots, it follows the GNOME HIG closer than Firefox, and hence seems to suffer the same problem as Nautilus. I know a lot of people were pissed off about Firefox violating GNOME HIG but frankly, now I can see why they did that. Epiphany and the GNOME HIG seem to have never heard of Fitts law or of UI design in general, glad to know that Mozilla know its UI design and have violated the GNOME HIG for a very very good reason. -- Back button (most used) in Nautilus smaller than rest https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/390724 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 390724] Re: Back button (most used) in Nautilus smaller than rest
Because this seems to be going to and fro, let me just state a small fact and put this into perspective: Right now the most important toolbar button (the one used most often) in Nautilus is also the smallest. I mean not only is it not the same size as the rest, it is actually smaller! For whatever reason that might be(GNOME HIG, consistency with other GTK apps etc) Think about that for a second :D Since you correctly point out that the scope of the problem is much bigger (GNOME HIG, GTK), I doubt it will be fixed now but lets not pretend it is ideal. It is quite simply and objectively, bad design. -- Back button (most used) in Nautilus smaller than rest https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/390724 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 390724] Re: Back button (most used) in Nautilus smaller than rest
No not at all. Default theme, everything set to default. Do not disable text below icons (else you will not have the issue). Keep everything default and you will see it. A screenshot might not help much because you won't see the button borders/margins unless you hover over the buttons. If you want, I could post 2 screenshots, one hovering over the back button and one hovering over any other button (like forward). But you can check it out easily on your own install. It is 100% reproducible all the time. -- Back button (most used) in Nautilus smaller than rest https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/390724 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 388500] Re: EoG should use Nautilus file sorting
Steps to reproduce?? Open a picture folder Sort by modification date Open a file Click next Watch as EOG goes to the next file in order of name rather than modified date It affects everyone in practice by not letting you view pictures in any sequence other than by name. How people have lived with this for so long, I have no clue. -- EoG should use Nautilus file sorting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/388500 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
