Re: [Bug 1269728] Re: could not install grub bootloader (ubuntu-gnome)

2014-01-17 Thread Arnaud Ongenae
First of all thank you for the follow-up.
Just for the sake of completeness here are all the step

- I had a running 12.10 ubuntu (normal version) that would have reach
end of life the 29th January.
The install was only on a SSD hard drive (64Gb)

- I acquired an refurbished 500Gb regular hard drive. It probably
hosted some version of windows (I don't really know and cared at the
time)

- I decided to install a new ubuntu-gnome 13.10 and have the /home
partition on the normal HDD, leave the swap and / on the SSD
First install, I rearrange the partition as mentioned and at the very
end of the installation process, I got the error message stated in the
bug report.
At this stage, there are three available options
* choose another partition (I tried them all /dev/sda /dev/sda1
/dev/sdc /dev/sdc5)
* finish the installation without bootloader
* cancel the installation

- I tried all available partition of the drop list, unsuccessfully.

- I decided to cancel the installation and was presented the
opportunity to fill a bug report (which I did)

- I rebooted the computer, there was no bootloader.

- I launched the live session again and tried a normal installation,
leave the partition to the installer, I choose exclusively my SDD
disk. At the end I encounter the same issue. I chose to exit without
the installation of the bootloader.

- I opened the disk utility and erased the 500Gb disk writing all
zeros (took a very long time)

- Retried the custom partition install... unsuccessfully and exit with
the option no bootloader

- I mounted the / partition and I chroot in it. I tried to install
grub manually. folIowing this howto:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1581099
At this point I encounter the more verbose error message:

/usr/sbin/grub2-bios-setup: warning: Sector 32 is already in use by
the program `FlexNet'; avoiding it.  This software may cause boot or
other problems in future.  Please ask its authors not to store data in
the boot track.

That lead me to:
http://pissedoffadmins.com/general/usrsbingrub2-bios-setup-warning-sector-32-is-already-in-use-by-the-program-flexnet-avoiding-it-this-software-may-cause-boot-or-other-problems-in-future-please-ask-its-authors-not-to-store.html

- I followed the instructions and could finally install grub
- reboot and victoire :)


As you can see, It's a (almost) fresh install. I didn't install (try)
windows in between tries (I don't have windows disk at all)


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On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 12:28 AM, Phillip Susi ps...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 This report says that grub failed to *install*.  If you subsequently
 resolved that in the way I stated and later got the error at boot time
 after successfully booting windows, then yes, you ran into a second,
 unrelated issue.

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Re: [Bug 1269728] Re: could not install grub bootloader (ubuntu-gnome)

2014-01-17 Thread Arnaud Ongenae
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Thank you for the follow-up. It feel like some personal training.
I learned a lot dealing with this problem.
I'll reconfigure the grub as suggested.

Again thank you

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On 2014-01-17 15:18, Phillip Susi wrote:
 On 1/17/2014 2:55 AM, Arnaud Ongenae wrote:
 At this stage, there are three available options * choose
 another partition (I tried them all /dev/sda /dev/sda1 /dev/sdc
 /dev/sdc5) * finish the installation without bootloader * cancel
 the installation
 
 - I tried all available partition of the drop list, 
 unsuccessfully.
 
 Unfortunately there is another bug in the installer where if 
 installing grub fails the first time, even if you choose the
 correct location to retry, it won't work either.  It has to be
 correct on the first try.
 
 /usr/sbin/grub2-bios-setup: warning: Sector 32 is already in use 
 by the program `FlexNet'; avoiding it.  This software may cause 
 boot or other problems in future.  Please ask its authors not to 
 store data in the boot track.
 
 That isn't an error; it is a warning.  It installed successfully
 and is just letting you know that it detected this flexnet
 garbage and is working around it.
 
 By the way, since you installed grub manually, it will not be able
 to correctly upgrade itself.  To correct this, run sudo
 dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc and select the drive(s) to install to in
 the menu so that it will remember your choice for when it is time
 to upgrade.
 
 
 
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[Bug 1269728] [NEW] could not install grub bootloader (ubuntu-gnome)

2014-01-16 Thread Arnaud Ongenae
Public bug reported:

At the end of the installation of ubuntu-gnome 13.10,  it failed to install the 
bootloader.
The original disk was a SSD
The installer allowed me to choose another disk, I tried without success on a 
normal drive.

The partition are as follow, I asked the install to format these partition 
(there was an older ubuntu version on them)
- SSD 64G
10G swap
54G /

- normal disk 550G
500G /home

It's the first time I encounter such issue on this computer/disks, I use
this HW since ubuntu 11.10 without issue.

ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 13.10
Package: ubiquity 2.15.26
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.11.0-12.19-generic 3.11.3
Uname: Linux 3.11.0-12-generic x86_64
ApportVersion: 2.12.5-0ubuntu2
Architecture: amd64
CasperVersion: 1.336ubuntu1
Date: Thu Jan 16 10:13:11 2014
InstallCmdLine: noprompt cdrom-detect/try-usb=true 
file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu-gnome.seed boot=casper initrd=/casper/initrd.lz 
quiet splash -- maybe-ubiquity
LiveMediaBuild: Ubuntu-GNOME 13.10 Saucy Salamander - Release amd64 (20131017)
MarkForUpload: True
ProcEnviron:
 LANGUAGE=en_US
 PATH=(custom, no user)
 XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=set
 LANG=en_US.UTF-8
 SHELL=/bin/bash
SourcePackage: grub-installer
UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

** Affects: grub-installer (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New


** Tags: amd64 apport-bug saucy ubiquity-2.15.26 ubuntu-gnome

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Re: [Bug 1269728] Re: could not install grub bootloader (ubuntu-gnome)

2014-01-16 Thread Arnaud Ongenae
Thanks for the follow-up
However, I didn't issue the command myself, it's part of the normal
install... I simply clicked next in the wizard and at the last
moment, the installer fail and this error message is displayed.

I already installed tons of Ubuntu systems for more than 10 years
without such problem.

I found that some people encounter the same but always in a dual-boot
environment. I only have ubuntu on this system.
I also read that it might be related to the disk alignment...
Anyway, I'll keep searching, sorry if I wasted some of your time with
this bug report.


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On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Phillip Susi ps...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 You tried to install grub to /dev/sda, which has no partitions.  You
 need to either create a partition there, or install grub to another
 disk.


 ** Changed in: grub-installer (Ubuntu)
Status: New = Invalid

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Re: [Bug 1269728] Re: could not install grub bootloader (ubuntu-gnome)

2014-01-16 Thread Arnaud Ongenae
I have been doing some more research and I'm convinced that I'm in
this scenario:

http://pissedoffadmins.com/general/usrsbingrub2-bios-setup-warning-
sector-32-is-already-in-use-by-the-program-flexnet-avoiding-it-this-
software-may-cause-boot-or-other-problems-in-future-please-ask-its-
authors-not-to-store.html

Ubuntu related bug:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/441941


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On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 7:18 PM, Phillip Susi ps...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 No worries.  If you choose manual partitioning you can pick where to
 install grub to so you can select another drive, otherwise just creating
 a partition on sda ( and making sure your bios is set to boot from that
 drive ) will do the trick.

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Re: [Bug 1269728] Re: could not install grub bootloader (ubuntu-gnome)

2014-01-16 Thread Arnaud Ongenae
Well, I definitely encounter all symptoms, all error messages
presented on these two web site and I could fix my situation with the
help given in the first web site followed by this:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1581099

It's only after fixing my mbr with the commands given in the
http://pissedoffadmins.com page that the re-installation of grub in
chroot was successful

As I said in the original bug report, I'm no expert in the area, I
never encountered such issue in all my years using/installing ubuntu.
I understand the difference, however, the procedure describer, even if
not completely related, solved my problem (maybe as side effect)

I remain convinced that there is a bug out there. I just don't have
the experience to pin-point it, and describe it with the necessary
level of information.

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On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Phillip Susi ps...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 No, that is completely unrelated.  That is about grub installing,
 working, then being killed by some badly behaving Windows software.

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