[Bug 1161675] Re: LibreOffice lacks support for documents' spell-checking in Ubuntu for most languages and dialects

2014-09-30 Thread Jon Hanna
I've found after two installs on other machines (one Ubuntu, one Mint),
that I had to do a full reinstall of LibreOffice before I could get the
workaround above to correctly get the dictionaries to work. I'm pretty
sure that wasn't the case above, so some people may not find that
necessary, but having the dict-* files in place before doing a reinstall
definitely means one can have working dictionaries.

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[Bug 1161675] Re: LibreOffice lacks support for documents' spell-checking in Ubuntu for most languages and dialects

2014-09-09 Thread Jon Hanna
I looked at this again, since I'd been installing libreoffice from their
website while bug 739184 had yet to be fixed.

Copying over the dict-* directories from C:\Program Files
(x86)\LibreOffice 4\share\extensions of a Windows partition to
/usr/lib/libreoffice/share/extensions and restarting LibreOffice
completely fixes this.

It would seem that these dictionaries are left out of the Ubuntu package
deliberately, perhaps under the belief that aspell or myspell procides
sufficient support, which it might do for some dialects (maybe it's even
better, but I haven't left my installation in a useless state long
enough to do comparisons), but neither supports the range of
LibreOffice's own dictionaries (though maybe there's in fact an overlap,
I don't know).

If it is indeed deliberate, all that's needed to fix this is to stop
doing it!

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[Bug 1161675] Re: LibreOffice lacks support for documents' spell-checking in Ubuntu for most languages and dialects

2014-04-22 Thread Jon Hanna
** Summary changed:

- LibreOffice lacks support for English documents' spell-checking in Ubuntu
+ LibreOffice lacks support for documents' spell-checking in Ubuntu for most 
languages and dialects

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[Bug 1246583] Re: All hotkeys of LibreOffice don't work in non-English keyboard layout [ubuntu 13.10]

2013-11-05 Thread Jon Hanna
Simon, there's a difference between shortcuts for particular actions
(such as Ctrl+S to save) and keyboard access to the menu via the alt
key. The two work in different ways, or in the case of Libreoffice on
Ubuntu, the two fail to work in different ways. Bug 739184 is about the
issue you mention.

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[Bug 822872] Re: LeftCtrl+LeftAlt+Key should be equivalent to RightAlt+Key

2013-04-26 Thread Jon Hanna
** Changed in: xkeyboard-config (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed = Invalid

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[Bug 822872] Re: LeftCtrl+LeftAlt+Key should be equivalent to RightAlt+Key

2013-04-26 Thread Jon Hanna
The Ctrl+Alt equivalence to AltGr is a Windows workaround to the fact
that some keyboards didn't have an AltGr (such keyboards are still
sometimes found in the US) to enable people with such keyboards to
attempt to write languages like Spanish and English (okay, there are
other ways of writing words like façade and naïve, but Windows didn't
support those either, and indeed the Ctrl+Alt technique still leaves
many characters out - so copy-paste from charmap or autocorrect bindings
are still needed on Windows to write many languages).

This is a reasonable workaround in that system for the following reasons:
1. They were stuck for anything else to try, because there simply wasn't an 
AltGr key on those keyboards.
2. They don't have many uses for other Ctrl+Alt bindings, and those they do use 
(Ctrl+Alt+Delete of course) don't have AltGr bindings on most keyboard layouts.

It remains a reasonable workaround for that system, because it's a fixed
workaround for that system  - this leads to item 2 remaining true, and
people don't create Ctrl+Alt bindings.

Strictly, that last point isn't true; people sometimes do program
bindings to Ctrl+Alt combos that have no built-in binding in their
locale, and then have internationalisation problems, but the workaround
dug a hole that it's now next to impossible to dig out of because so
many Windows users are used to it.

This is not a reasonable workaround on other systems.
1. It isn't needed for most keyboards (though admittedly such keyboards do 
still exist).
2. There are a large number of cases where Ctrl+Alt is bound to something. 
Ctrl+Alt L will default to locking the screen, Ctrl+Alt T will launch a 
terminal window; clearly we cannot have those happening when someone tries to 
type a letter, or vice versa.

Windows did something decades ago that seemed like a good idea at the
time, and arguably was, and has to live with the negative consequences
because Windows users are used to it.

*nix did something different decades ago that seemed like a good idea at
the time to people who did have AltGr keys, was largely invisible to
most who didn't (who mostly make little use of the characters it allows
anyway), and has to live with the fact that it confuses Windows users
because *nix users are used to it.

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[Bug 1157733] Re: Alt shortcuts do not in work LibreOffice using Unity

2013-03-28 Thread Jon Hanna
This would seem to be a duplicate of 739184, though now that the menu
integration is from LO themselves, maybe it's now a bug for them.

Some initial testing yesterday seemed to suggest that the workarounds
from that bug no longer work, making LibreOffice and Unity an either/or
proposition, but I'll try some more things and add detail.

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[Bug 1157733] Re: Alt shortcuts do not in work LibreOffice using Unity

2013-03-28 Thread Jon Hanna
Trying today, I find that uninstalling libreoffice-gnome doesn't do the
trick (even with a full reboot after it), but removing libreoffice-gtk
does.

Yesterday, on that day's daily build, that had managed to leave me with
no menus at all!

Still, at least the workaround still works.

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[Bug 777013] Re: LibreOffice *looks* as if it was checking the spelling when the dictionary is not installed.

2013-03-28 Thread Jon Hanna
Yes, it makes sense if you had a document that was mostly in e.g. en-GB,
with some phrases in fr, ang and la and you had dictionaries for British
English and French but not for Latin or Anglo-Saxon, that it would pass
by those Latin and Anglo-Saxon phrases.

I think the ideal would be a list of languages in the document that
weren't checked for that reason.

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[Bug 1161675] [NEW] LibreOffice lacks support for English documents' spell-checking in Ubuntu

2013-03-28 Thread Jon Hanna
Public bug reported:

Fresh install of Raring (because I'm playing with the Beta, but I've
noted similar issues before with other builds), en-IE locale.
Libreoffice has English dictionaries for: en-AU, en-CA, en-GB, en-US,
en-ZA, and no others.

Uninstall Libreoffice and install from .deb files. Libreoffice has
support for: en-AU, en-BZ, en-CA, en-GB, en-GH, en-IE, en-IN, en-JM, en-
MW, en-NA, en-NZ, en-PH, en-TT, en-US, en-ZA  en-ZW.

This severely hampers the usefulness of LibreOffice to many English
speakers, unless they've installed manually.

A workaround can be to mark your document as being in the supported
dialect closest to your own and then spell-check it before changing it
back. This is imperfect in checking for some dialects, and not as easily
done if you are mixing languages (or worse, dialects of English) in the
same document.

** Affects: libreoffice (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New


** Tags: i18n l10n

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[Bug 1161675] Re: LibreOffice lacks support for English documents' spell-checking in Ubuntu

2013-03-28 Thread Jon Hanna
I'd guess other languages are equally affected, but this is the one that
I noticed since I speak English.

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[Bug 1157733] Re: Alt shortcuts do not in work LibreOffice using Unity

2013-03-28 Thread Jon Hanna
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 739184 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/739184

** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 739184
   [Libreoffice] Mnemonics do not work in Unity

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[Bug 1034609] Re: Palimpsest warns about misalignment of extended partition

2013-03-28 Thread Jon Hanna
** Changed in: gnome-disk-utility (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Confirmed

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[Bug 1161675] Re: LibreOffice lacks support for English documents' spell-checking in Ubuntu

2013-03-28 Thread Jon Hanna
Oh, I meant to add, I'd gone to Ubuntu Language Settings, and that
didn't help. I note that the forms of English supported almost
corresponds by those supported in that settings app, though it does
include en-NZ which is one of those that Libreoffice supports through
download, but not through ppa.

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[Bug 739184] Re: [Libreoffice] Mnemonics do not work in Unity

2012-11-02 Thread Jon Hanna
Thanks Marius, that did the trick. It does ruin a lot of the integration
as you say, but not as much as having to boot into windows to get some
writing done does.

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[Bug 739184] Re: [Libreoffice] Mnemonics do not work in Unity

2012-10-31 Thread Jon Hanna
This has gotten so much worse with quantal. Before we had the workaround
of uninstalling lo-menubar and putting up with the menu not visually
matching the rest of the shell. Now there's no longer that in-between
option (it's quite literally quantal).

I haven't tried installing libre office from their site rather than the
ppa. Has anyone tried that yet?

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[Bug 739184] Re: Keyboard shortcuts to menus do not work.

2012-09-04 Thread Jon Hanna
I don't understand why it's invalid in precise because the bug is in the
beta for quantal.

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[Bug 1034609] [NEW] Palimpsest warns about misalignment of extended partition

2012-08-08 Thread Jon Hanna
Public bug reported:

On a drive that requires 64-byte alignment, palimpsest complains if an
extended partition is misaligned, suggesting repartitioning.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this irrelevant with an extended
partition, only mattering with physical and logical partitions?

The warning certainly looks alarming. It definitely looks like I should
be fixing things as a matter of urgency! Unless I'm wrong in my
understanding that this is harmless, the warning should be removed in
such cases.

** Affects: gnome-disk-utility (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

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[Bug 1012607] Re: xserver-xorg-video-all fails to install

2012-08-06 Thread Jon Hanna
I think this is a duplicate of bug 989902. The xorg-server code is
correct, but the alternate CDs (all flavours) are naming them wrong on
the image.

** Package changed: xorg-server (Ubuntu) = ubuntu-cdimage

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[Bug 668415] Re: Movement of Unity launcher

2012-07-30 Thread Jon Hanna
Ironically, my finding the design decision to have the launcher on the
left in Ubuntu encouraged me to move the taskbar on my Windows install
there too (something I'd tried before with a smaller screened laptop
that had 1280*800 as its native resolution, and quickly undid). It works
great on a 1600*900 screen at least as far as I'm concerned. I noticed
that my 12yo, who also dual-boots Ubuntu and Windows on a 16:9 ratio
screen had done the same thing.

If I were a subject, we'd definitely come out as a weighing on the side
of the status quo here.

But... of the two OSs mentioned here, why is Ubuntu the one where we'd
just better like it, because it's not going to change if we don't?

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