[Bug 986831] Re: system freezes for some seconds: Attempted to yield the CPU while in atomic or interrupt context

2013-09-15 Thread Joris V.
no way... they even have standard messages now.

just create a new report and all will be fine! yeah...

Canonical seems to spread itself thin on various targeted markets, but
are neglecting their core business at the moment.

Haven't I heard that from another software company having gone the exact
same route?

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[Bug 986831] Re: system freezes for some seconds: Attempted to yield the CPU while in atomic or interrupt context

2013-08-19 Thread Joris V.
@M. van Workum: This is getting to a point which makes my computer
unusable.

I know the feeling. Got similar instability problems with Ubuntu ever
since 12.04, rendering the computer unusable.

12.10 and 13.04 did not fix it.

Tried to escalate within Canonical on a few occasions, but all they said
was repro steps are too vague. While they were right, these are not
bugs to defer, since I was far from the only one.

Quite happy with Debian 7.1 now. Rock-solid, like I remember Ubuntu
being before 12.04. I don't think I will easily come back here.

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[Bug 908335] Re: Kernel Hard Freezing Very Often

2013-06-21 Thread Joris V.
yea... got the same problem as well. Have reported on it many many
times. Have even sent an email to Mr. Shuttleworth's assistant (over it
- maybe indeed). Fact is, I have been more than happy with Ubuntu ever
since my definite migration from windows to 9.10. Thanks to Canonical
and its community - sincerely. I did also start making publicity for
Canonical's and the community's great efforts!

However, even though all updates went fine, I ran into the problem
mentioned here, first on 12.04. My first _clean_ install since 9.10,
mind! After rebooting and anxiously looking forward to the new
possibilities, it crashed not 10 minutes later - without installing
anything additional! Just browsing the web. Hard reset only option. It
kept on doing so...

I mostly used 11.10 in the mean time, as 12.10 did not fix the problem.
13.04 initially seemed a lot more stable on my machine. But it quickly
started to break up as well. Did I really need to back to Windows? I
wanted GIMP 2.8 and LibreOffice 4.0!

No.

Wheezy was released, and, since it was installed about two weeks ago, I
have not experienced a single crash - well one, but it was recoverable
through PTYx. It is fast, has the latest versions of the programs I
wanted to update and it seems rock-solid. Should I put in a Ubuntu
background, I might not even notice a difference at all on Gnome3. I
switched from Ubuntu to Debian because of necessity, but given
Canonical's indifference to these showstopper problems and Debian's
stability, I think I will stay...

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Re: [Bug 993187] Re: ubuntu 12.04 completely freezes frequently.

2013-01-07 Thread Joris V.
Yep... I am more and more convinced the root of this bugger is a kernel
problem.

I didn't have success with any kernel higher than 3.2, although I only
tried standard distro kernels up to now.

I did try ubuntu 12.x, the last two mints and fedora. In degrees of
stability, only ubuntu had the deep freeze this bug is about. Mint got
unstable when switching from nouveau to nvidia propriety (and nouveau is
not up to speed literally). Fedora was solid.

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On Jan 7, 2013 12:16 PM, Martin Wildam 993...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:

 On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 11:04 AM, audunpoi 993...@bugs.launchpad.net
 wrote:
  Hi Rabit. For me it's the same with Kubuntu or Mint. It does not seem to
  matter. I didn't try any other distros, though this problem certainly
  motivates me.

 This confirms my experience, that all of the Debian-based distros
 currently have quality issues and the problem lies deeper than just
 related to unity or compiz.

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   ubuntu 12.04 completely freezes frequently.

 Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu:
   Won't Fix
 Status in “plymouth-theme-int2mil-ubuntu-11.04” package in Ubuntu:
   Fix Released
 Status in “xserver-xorg-video-intel” package in Ubuntu:
   Won't Fix
 Status in “linux” source package in Precise:
   Won't Fix
 Status in “plymouth-theme-int2mil-ubuntu-11.04” source package in Precise:
   Fix Released
 Status in “xserver-xorg-video-intel” source package in Precise:
   Won't Fix

 Bug description:
   Update: 6/12/2012
   This bug is about a complete system lock-up. No other TTYs can be
 started. Mouse doesn't move. Keyboard doesn't react. The only solution is
 hard reset.

   Seems to happen on a variety of configurations, including nVidia, ATI
   and Intel graphics.

   If you are still able to TTY or SSH into other sessions, move the
   mouse or use the keyboard, file another bug.

   Thx. Joris V. (brains).

   Update: 5/21/2012
   Updating the kernel to 3.3.6 as suggested by Michael in #91, the system
 seems stable, no freezes yet in 5-6 hrs of using and watching videos for
 couple of hrs.

   Original description:
   I recently installed newly released ubuntu 12.04 LTS 64 bit version on
 my desktop. And it is frequently freezing, for the first few hours it ran
 smoothly and when I started watching videos it started freezing randomly.
   I have to use hard restart every time.
   Initially it was only during videos but now even during normal browsing
 it is freezing.

   I am using on board graphics and do not have any graphics card
   installed.

   Can someone please help me here, I really love the new looks of 12.04
   and it bugs me not being able to use :(

   Below is my hardware configuration:
   Processor: Intel CORE i3 processor (2nd generation)
   Board: Intel® Desktop Board DH67BL
   Ram: 4GB
   Graphics: On board
   HDD: 500 GB

   Please let me know if you need more information, or any specific logs
   I can capture (and how).

   Thanks,
   Ketan Patil

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[Bug 993187] Re: ubuntu 12.04 completely freezes frequently.

2012-12-23 Thread Joris V.
Good, I've written to Ubuntu's technical board (I hope the distribution
list gets monitored).

This is my mail:


Hey there,

First time I write to this list...

Thanks for co-creating Ubuntu. Have been using it since 9.10 as my main
OS. All swell and stable until upgrading to 12.04 LTS.

The system got unstable, completely freezing with only a hard reset
working to boot it back up. This happens within 10 minutes of usage,
without specific scenario's... unfortunately. 12.10 does not solve the
problem...


I'm writing because of bug #993187 (https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/993187)

It's been active since 02/05/2012 and has been put on Won't Fix for
the last few months.

Its heat is at 1838 and rising - making it the hottest bug around if I
queried the db well.


Can one of you please look into it - I think the best place to start is from 
the bottom upwards? The bug comments at 600+ are not clean. There are lots of 
persons posting with a responsive system - not valid for this report. There are 
a lot who aren't though.

I offered to clean these up, but I don't have a clue how. I suppose it
is a permissions thing.


Do look into it and at least comment on it. If I can be of any non-technical 
help, please advice


Thanks in advance.

Happy holidays.


Joris

PS: back on 11.10 now, which is rock-solid.

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[Bug 993187] Re: ubuntu 12.04 completely freezes frequently.

2012-12-21 Thread Joris V.
@AG: it is not only about Chromium / Chrome. Changing to Firefox does
not solve the problem here, as stated in #606.

The Chromium bug 145600 you link to tells the current window is
unresponsive, but that you can still minimize / restore.

This bug is about COMPLETE system lock-ups: no keyboard, no mouse, no
tty, no ssh. Only means of recovery is holding the power button and
restart the computer from BIOS POST onwards.

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[Bug 993187] Re: ubuntu 12.04 completely freezes frequently.

2012-12-20 Thread Joris V.
@renaud: your comment being out of place was already suggested in the
first six lines of this bug report, not only on comment #579.

The comments which should be posted in this thread are all about option
4.

YES, we DO experience LOTS of system lock-ups.
NO, whatever we do, i.e. change browser, change driver, change display effects, 
heck, even change kernel, we STILL experience lock-ups. 

like said: if you can still move the mouse, use the keyboard, TTY , SSH
or find any other means of a workaround, this thread is NOT the thread
to post in.


@canonical: how can I clean this up?

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[Bug 993187] Re: ubuntu 12.04 completely freezes frequently.

2012-12-17 Thread Joris V.
@renaud: with all due respect, but you belong to the group of people who
should not be posting in this thread. If you can still sudo pkill,
then your system still is responsive. This thread is about COMPLETE
lockups: no mouse, no kb, no tty, no SSH possible. Holding the power
button and rebooting is the only means of recovery!


@admins / canonical: I would be willing to clean up the 500+ posts in this 
thread to sift out false reports like the above and only keep the relevant 
ones. How can I do this?

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[Bug 993187] Re: ubuntu 12.04 completely freezes frequently.

2012-12-15 Thread Joris V.
@Kayvan: great write-up. Thanks.

But the problem is broader than intel with on-board CPU. It happens on
Intel-nVidia CPU as well, which is my set-up: a Core2Duo with an nVidia
8400M. I does not at all happen on Oneiric 11.10, which I went back to.
It starts from 12.04 and continues into 12.10.

It does not necessarily happen with intensive use. I had it while just
browsing the web - although the web can be intensive use as well on
some sites, which load up lots of flash ads and things. Both on Firefox
and on Chrome / Chromium.

I did notice that when scrolling up and down a page, the screens blinks
(i.e. goes to black and back up) for some milliseconds. Sometimes the PC
passes / recovers from such a blink, sometimes it results in this lock-
up.

To make sure: it _is_ a complete system lock-up I have: no mouse, no
keyboard, no TTY, no log-entries. Hard-reset is the only option.

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[Bug 993187] Re: ubuntu 12.04 completely freezes frequently.

2012-12-05 Thread Joris V.
Well, Jeremy. I do not blame you. There really is no interest from
Canonical into fixing this bug. There is no guidance, no follow-up, no
reaction.

Yes, truth is that all different comments filed here seem to appear
related, but are not necessarily so, making pinpointing the source of
this bug difficult, maybe even nigh impossible. But, please canonical,
do react then, have this followed up and try to use the snippets of
information being posted here, posted on a daily basis! This bug is
_highest_ on the heat chart! That should give it some more priority,
even if comments appear to be unrelated? If these are duplicated, at
least file a list of other bugs and dissallow comments on this one?

I still have this bug, I hoped it would have been a temporary 12.04
issue. 12.10 has the exact same problem though.

I'm on an MSI EX600 laptop with Core2Duo processor and nVidia 8400G
card.

As far as I can judge, this is a kernel thing messing up with GPU.
Something crept into the later kernels, i.e. above 3.0, shipped with
Oneiric 11.10. Oneiric is rock-solid, even with propriety nVidia driver.
Every distro I tried with a higher kernel gave problems (but Ubuntu is
the harshest - crashing where only a hard reset works). Every distro
with a kernel higher than 3.0 makes nVidia's driver unuseable on my
system.

About to sign out of this bug as well - but I'll see for a few more
weeks.

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[Bug 993187] Re: ubuntu 12.04 completely freezes frequently.

2012-07-03 Thread Joris V.
@351: it already is and canonical keeps quiet...

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[Bug 993187] Re: ubuntu 12.04 completely freezes frequently.

2012-07-03 Thread Joris V.
@Tim: I second that. It happens immediately during web browsing. I only
tried Firefox  Chromium.

@Jeremy: I second that as well. I switched to Fedora because of this
mess. I promoted Ubuntu in the past, but have become really afraid to do
so... this bug makes the machine utterly unusable. I'd rather recommend
users to stick to their virus- and trojan-infested Windows install. It's
slow, but at least a LOT more stable than machines having this issue...

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[Bug 993187] Re: ubuntu 12.04 completely freezes frequently.

2012-06-27 Thread Joris V.
Anybody who tried repro in a VM? I was wondering about this.

Ever since the problem, I moved to Fedora, which runs stable, but I
prefer Ubuntu's look  feel... :/

Did anyone already try reproducing the error in a VM / fixing it by
updating the VM's kernel?


I'll try it anyway one of these days...

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[Bug 993187] Re: ubuntu 12.04 completely freezes frequently.

2012-06-12 Thread Joris V.
@Martin (cyderia8530): Your bug is not related to this one. This bug is
for people experiencing lock-ups where TTY, SSH or another means of
recovery is NOT possible, unless a HARD reset. I updated the
description.

** Description changed:

+ Update: 6/12/2012
+ This bug is about a complete system lock-up. No other TTYs can be started. 
Mouse doesn't move. Keyboard doesn't react. The only solution is hard reset.
+ 
+ Seems to happen on a variety of configurations, including nVidia, ATI
+ and Intel graphics.
+ 
+ If you are still able to TTY or SSH into other sessions, move the mouse
+ or use the keyboard, file another bug.
+ 
+ Thx. Joris V. (brains).
+ 
+ 
  Update: 5/21/2012
  Updating the kernel to 3.3.6 as suggested by Michael in #91, the system seems 
stable, no freezes yet in 5-6 hrs of using and watching videos for couple of 
hrs.
  
  Original description:
  I recently installed newly released ubuntu 12.04 LTS 64 bit version on my 
desktop. And it is frequently freezing, for the first few hours it ran smoothly 
and when I started watching videos it started freezing randomly.
  I have to use hard restart every time.
  Initially it was only during videos but now even during normal browsing it is 
freezing.
  
  I am using on board graphics and do not have any graphics card
  installed.
  
  Can someone please help me here, I really love the new looks of 12.04
  and it bugs me not being able to use :(
  
  Below is my hardware configuration:
  Processor: Intel CORE i3 processor (2nd generation)
  Board: Intel® Desktop Board DH67BL
  Ram: 4GB
  Graphics: On board
  HDD: 500 GB
  
  Please let me know if you need more information, or any specific logs I
  can capture (and how).
  
  Thanks,
  Ketan Patil

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[Bug 993187] Re: ubuntu 12.04 completely freezes frequently.

2012-06-07 Thread Joris V.
@Kevin LeBlanc (leblanc-kevin-u): 
 I'm really, really unimpressed by how Canonical's bug-fix squad is not 
 handling this. 
 This is enough to drive people back to Windows, which I've actually been 
 considering.

Totally agree. Or to Fedora, Mint, Gentoo, Debian, Slack... plain
incredible.

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[Bug 993187] Re: ubuntu 12.04 completely freezes frequently while watching videos (Fixed by 3.3.6 kernel)

2012-06-05 Thread Joris V.
unbelievable... 264 comments and counting and this is set to won't
fix?!

I changed from Ubuntu to Fedora 16 because of this with the latter
running stable. All were pristine installs.

This bug's thread is a hodge podge of different scenario's precisely
because it happens IN a multitude of scenario's. Affected users can have
the problem while watching video's, while working with GIMP, while
browsing CPU / GPU intensive websites and so on. If anything, the bugs
title and description should be updated instead of dismissing this.

I can reproduce it 100% within 3 minutes by:
Clean install on my MSI EX600
Either update or don't the nVidia drivers (doesn't make a difference)
Open www.eurogamer.net (quite resource heavy that one)
Open a digital foundry face-off article (just because it's a combination of 
flash, of images, video and a whole lot of comments)
Scroll up and down the article.
Crash within a minute!

The crash is instant, no log files get updated afaik.

The crash may be preceded by one or more screen flashes - as if the
display is updating. This is milliseconds long, but clearly noticeable.

One of the flashes eventually freezes the complete system, with a hard
reset the only solution.

Happens on nVidia, ATI, Intel etc. But clearly has somethign to do with
the display, the LCD image updating. Quite where - I don't know.

This bug is blocking for those involved. Critical for Canonical. As
mentioned - I am getting used to Fedora now - one of many answers to
this problem.

Please update priority and status. Thanks!

** Summary changed:

- ubuntu 12.04 completely freezes frequently while watching videos (Fixed by 
3.3.6 kernel)
+ ubuntu 12.04 completely freezes frequently.

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[Bug 996989] Re: Ubuntu 12.04 Freezes Frequently

2012-06-05 Thread Joris V.
That seems to be the exact problem indeed. Added a comment there as
well.

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[Bug 993187] Re: ubuntu 12.04 completely freezes frequently.

2012-06-05 Thread Joris V.
@Timo: I understand that the bug is difficult to describe and that the
plethora of different descriptions make it difficult to debug /
pinpoint, hence address. It does not mean canonical or the community
should not keep track of it.

This is not venting frustration - although it also is. This is a genuine
bug report, which made me move to Fedora (for the time being), since
Ubuntu is plain and simply unusable at the moment.

If this kind of stability is your first encounter with Ubuntu / Linux,
you'll never return. I checked out bug reports and sorted them on
heat. The first bug is Microsoft has a majority stake on OS
installs. Hardly a bug which you can repro as well, is it? Yet that
keeps open. I suppose as an inside joke, but still, this bug will NOT
help reach that goal...

Reopen and have it addressed. Get hold of a laptop having this problem!

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[Bug 996989] Re: Ubuntu 12.04 Freezes Frequently

2012-06-02 Thread Joris V.
guys. this has nothing to do with video drivers or at least not
specifically an nVidia or ATI one.

My system has nVidia, and it results in the exact same thing...

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[Bug 996989] Re: Ubuntu 12.04 Freezes Frequently

2012-05-27 Thread Joris V.
Can't believe this is on invalid! I got an MSI EX600 machine, which I
have been using Ubuntu on since 9.10 without major hick-ups.

I have _switched_ from Ubuntu to Fedora now, since this bug really makes
the system unworkable. There is nothing written in logs when this
happens, although I know a way to fully reproduce the crash.

Open your webbrowser and point to a resource-intensive website, like
www.eurogamer.net. Click on one of the reviews or digital foundry face-
offs. Now just scroll up and down. You'll notice that from time to time
the browser screen refresh seems to hang just an instant. Continue to
scroll up and down. You would be very lucky if the momentary hang
doesn't result in a full lock-up after a few occurances.

This bug is 100% reproducable. Since you can not work on the system for
more than half an hour, Ubuntu becomes plain unusable, which is a shame.

This happens on a fully clean install. With or without updating Nvidia
drivers.

Don't dismiss this. The bug is here, reproducable, blocking.

https://www.google.com/#q=ubuntu+12.04+freezes+-installer

Invalid - Confirmed

** Changed in: ubuntu
   Status: Invalid = Confirmed

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  Ubuntu 12.04 Freezes Frequently

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