[Bug 1255761] Re: localepurge breaks KDE l10n
Hi Harald. I think it is not a good idea to change the title of the bugreport . Nobody encoutering the problem I had will ever find this bugreport with the changed title. At leasst not if one hasn't background knowlidge about the relavance of localpurge for the localization. So I think it would be better lo leave it as it was and open a new bugreport about localpurge. Or should I make a post in the forums about the solution and link it to this bugreport? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1255761 Title: localepurge breaks KDE l10n To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/localepurge/+bug/1255761/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1255761] Re: localepurge breaks KDE l10n
Problem SOLVED! In the error messages from debsums -c I found among others following entrie: debsums: missing file /usr/share/locale/l10n/C/entry.desktop (from kde-runtime-data package) debsums: missing file /usr/share/locale/l10n/C/flag.png (from kde-runtime-data package) Reinstalled kde-runtime-data and everything is back to normal. Even setlocale.sh now has reasonable entries. Thanks for your help. Knut -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1255761 Title: localepurge breaks KDE l10n To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/localepurge/+bug/1255761/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1255761] Re: Can't configure country, languages, or spell checker
And here the output of debsums -c: knut@knubuntu:~$ debsums -c 2> debsums-err.txt /opt/Adobe/Reader9/Reader/GlobalPrefs/.config /usr/share/backintime/kde4/app.py /usr/share/info/dir.gz /usr/lib/kde4/searchbarplugin.so /usr/share/kde4/apps/konqueror/kpartplugins/searchbar.desktop /usr/share/doc/libvte9/changelog.Debian.gz /var/lib/xine/xine.desktop The output contained a load of error messages which I redirected to a file that now contains almost 4.000 lines. Do you want to this file as well? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1255761 Title: Can't configure country, languages, or spell checker To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-runtime/+bug/1255761/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1255761] Re: Can't configure country, languages, or spell checker
Well, /usr/share/locale/all_languages didn't exist. Just reinstalling kdelibs5-data didn't help to bring it back. Following Steve's suggestion and uninstalling localepurge first did the job. But it helped only partially. 1. In systemsettings language I get the list with all languages again and even can choose my preferred languages. But still there are no flags, neither in the language setting dialogue nor for the keyboard switch widget in the taskbar. 2. I still can't choose any other currency except US dollar, but even for that not a symbol. 3. No change in the country tab. It still offers "System Country ()" and "No Country (Default Settings)". Doesn't state that Spanish is set als system language nor offers to change that. 4. In systemsettings dictionary I can choose now from "German ()" "English ()" "English" "Spanish ()" "Spanish". Notice that English and Spanish occure twice and German only once. 5. In kmail the situation imporved partially. I can now select die dictionary for spell checking again. Only drawback, the German dictionary doesn't work, whereas both English and Spanish dictionaries do. And German unfortunately is the one I use most ;-( 6 The localization of the kde applications seems to work again. Menus are in the language that is the top one in "Preferred Languages", except for the applications where the language was set separately. Furthermor I noticed that ~/.kde/env/setlocale.sh is back again. It actually is created every time language settings are saved. And it still messes up locales. After reinstalling kdelibs5-data and making some changes to language settings they looked as follows: knut@knubuntu:~$ locale locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory LANG=de_C.ISO-8859-1 LANGUAGE=de:es:en_GB:en LC_CTYPE="de_C.ISO-8859-1" LC_NUMERIC="de_C.ISO-8859-1" LC_TIME="de_C.ISO-8859-1" LC_COLLATE="de_C.ISO-8859-1" LC_MONETARY="de_C.ISO-8859-1" LC_MESSAGES="de_C.ISO-8859-1" LC_PAPER="de_C.ISO-8859-1" LC_NAME="de_C.ISO-8859-1" LC_ADDRESS="de_C.ISO-8859-1" LC_TELEPHONE="de_C.ISO-8859-1" LC_MEASUREMENT="de_C.ISO-8859-1" LC_IDENTIFICATION="de_C.ISO-8859-1" LC_ALL= with ~/.kde/env/setlocale.sh: export LANG=de_C.ISO-8859-1 export LANGUAGE=de:es:en_GB:en knut@knubuntu:~$ locale locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory LANG=es_C.ISO-8859-1 LANGUAGE=es:de:en_GB:en LC_CTYPE="es_C.ISO-8859-1" LC_NUMERIC="es_C.ISO-8859-1" LC_TIME="es_C.ISO-8859-1" LC_COLLATE="es_C.ISO-8859-1" LC_MONETARY="es_C.ISO-8859-1" LC_MESSAGES="es_C.ISO-8859-1" LC_PAPER="es_C.ISO-8859-1" LC_NAME="es_C.ISO-8859-1" LC_ADDRESS="es_C.ISO-8859-1" LC_TELEPHONE="es_C.ISO-8859-1" LC_MEASUREMENT="es_C.ISO-8859-1" LC_IDENTIFICATION="es_C.ISO-8859-1" LC_ALL= with ~/.kde/env/setlocale.sh: export LANG=es_C.ISO-8859-1 export LANGUAGE=es:de:en_GB:en knut@knubuntu:~$ locale locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory LANG=en_GB.ISO-8859-1 LANGUAGE=en_GB:es:de:en LC_CTYPE="en_GB.ISO-8859-1" LC_NUMERIC="en_GB.ISO-8859-1" LC_TIME="en_GB.ISO-8859-1" LC_COLLATE="en_GB.ISO-8859-1" LC_MONETARY="en_GB.ISO-8859-1" LC_MESSAGES="en_GB.ISO-8859-1" LC_PAPER="en_GB.ISO-8859-1" LC_NAME="en_GB.ISO-8859-1" LC_ADDRESS="en_GB.ISO-8859-1" LC_TELEPHONE="en_GB.ISO-8859-1" LC_MEASUREMENT="en_GB.ISO-8859-1" LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_GB.ISO-8859-1" LC_ALL= with ~/.kde/env/setlocale.sh: export LANG=en_GB.ISO-8859-1 export LANGUAGE=en_GB:es:de:en In all cases instead of UTF-8 ISO-8859-1 was set as charset which interferred with quite a few applications as digikam and kontact. And except for the English setting we again have strange locales like de_C.ISO-8859-1 or es_C.ISO-8859-1. After I deleted the file everything went back to normal and the system works as above stated. The only thing I have do do that it stays like that, is deleting ~/.kde/env/setlocale.sh every time I make changes to language settings in systemsettings. BTW, after deleting it the first time at least the ISO-8859-1 charset isn't appended anymore, but UTF-8 again. So I would say it more or less works for me again with some minor drawbacks - like deleting ~/.kde/env/setlocale.sh business and the missing flags and currency symbols - and of course the missing German spell checking, which I regard a major loss. BTW, apart from reinstalling kdelibs5-data I reinstalled all laguage packages including those for kde and gnome. Only exception packages related to firefox and libreoffice. ** Attachment added: "all_languages" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kd
[Bug 1255761] Re: Can't configure country, languages, or spell checker
Encountered this problem yesterday after upgrading under Saucy from KDE 4.11.2 to 4.11.3. Thinking it might be caused by misconfiguration I did some reseach wich cost me almost a day without fixing it .-( But I hope thus I can at least provide some useful addtional information :-) 1. After the update I first noticed that the spell checking in kmail was gone. I couldn't choose the language any more and spell checking doesn't work for preset German any more. Neither could I choose system language nor make any additional language or location settings in systemsettings. Furthermore I noticed that the little widget I use to switch my keyboard from German to English or Spanish doesn't show the flags anymore. And even though all application I set to use other languages than system language still use these, at least for menus, I couldn't change the language anymore. 2. Somehow language setting got totally messed up during the update. locale -a produces following output, which shows all the three languages I have installed: knut@knubuntu:~$ locale -a C C.UTF-8 de_AT.utf8 de_BE.utf8 de_CH.utf8 de_DE.utf8 de_LI.utf8 de_LU.utf8 en_AG en_AG.utf8 en_AU.utf8 en_BW.utf8 en_CA.utf8 en_DK.utf8 en_GB.utf8 en_HK.utf8 en_IE.utf8 en_IN en_IN.utf8 en_NG en_NG.utf8 en_NZ.utf8 en_PH.utf8 en_SG.utf8 en_US.utf8 en_ZA.utf8 en_ZMSin nombre en_ZM.utf8 en_ZW.utf8 es_AR.utf8 es_BO.utf8 es_CL.utf8 es_CO.utf8 es_CR.utf8 es_CU es_CU.utf8 es_DO.utf8 es_EC.utf8 es_ES.utf8 es_GT.utf8 es_HN.utf8 es_MX.utf8 es_NI.utf8 es_PA.utf8 es_PE.utf8 es_PR.utf8 es_PY.utf8 es_SV.utf8 es_US.utf8 es_UY.utf8 es_VE.utf8 POSIX But invoking just locale produces weird results: knut@knubuntu:~$ locale locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory LANG=es_C.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=es:de:en_GB:en_US:en LC_CTYPE="es_C.UTF-8" LC_NUMERIC="es_C.UTF-8" LC_TIME="es_C.UTF-8" LC_COLLATE="es_C.UTF-8" LC_MONETARY="es_C.UTF-8" LC_MESSAGES="es_C.UTF-8" LC_PAPER="es_C.UTF-8" LC_NAME="es_C.UTF-8" LC_ADDRESS="es_C.UTF-8" LC_TELEPHONE="es_C.UTF-8" LC_MEASUREMENT="es_C.UTF-8" LC_IDENTIFICATION="es_C.UTF-8" LC_ALL= Please notice the weird locale es_C.UTF-8. After further investigation I encountered the file ~/.kde/env/setlocale.sh with following contents: export LANG=es_C.UTF-8 export LANGUAGE=es:de:en_GB:en_US:en Deleting it I at least got rid of "es_C.UTF-8". BTW, as a look into my backups revealed, above mentioned file didn't exist before the update. At least it did not exist a week before the update and meanwhile I did not make any changes to the localization. 3. Hoping this might fix the problem I shortly after the update to 4.11.3. updated to 4.12 from the backport ppa's. It did not help. I suppose the problem is caused by a bug in the package systemsettings which inspite of the update to 4.12 still is 4:4.11.3-0ubuntu01. At least I could not find any other kde related package responsible for language settings. language-selctor-kde, as proposed in a post I found, doesn't exist in the Saucy repositories. BTW, I installed language-selctor-gnome and could access all localization setting for gnome application without problem. Thus I suppose this is a kde related problem. Here the basics again: knut@knubuntu:~$ lsb_release -a LSB Version: core-2.0-ia32:core-2.0-noarch:core-3.0-ia32:core-3.0-noarch:core-3.1-ia32:core-3.1-noarch:core-3.2-ia32:core-3.2-noarch:core-4.0-ia32:core-4.0-noarch:core-4.1-ia32:core-4.1-noarch:security-4.0-ia32:security-4.0-noarch:security-4.1-ia32:security-4.1-noarch Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description:Ubuntu 13.10 Release:13.10 Codename: saucy knut@knubuntu:~$ uname -a Linux knubuntu 3.11.0-14-generic #21-Ubuntu SMP Tue Nov 12 17:07:40 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux knut@knubuntu:~$ kded4 --version Qt: 4.8.4 KDE Development Platform: 4.12.0 KDE Daemon: 4.12.0 Package systemsettings is 4:4.11.3-0ubuntu01 Furtherrmore I add some screenshots made from kmail and systemsettings. I hope this information may help fix the bug soon. Knut ** Attachment added: "localization settings in systemsettings and missing dictionaries and language settings in kmail" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-runtime/+bug/1255761/+attachment/3933814/+files/localization-kde-4.11.3.jpg -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1255761 Title: Can't configure country, languages, or spell checker To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-runtime/+bug/1255761/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1100622] Re: package kdelibs5-plugins (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/ktelnetservice', which is also in package kdelibs4c2a 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-3ubuntu2.10.04
Hi all, want to come back to this thread since I ran again into the old problem when KDE 4.11 came out. I could avoid it by not upgrading KDE, but when it came to upgrading to Kubuntu 13.10 there was no way around it any more. And of course, during the upgrade process all my KDE3 applications should have been uninstalled. That is why I did some research to find an updated version of kdelibs4c2a, which did not conflict with KDE 4.11. Eventually I stumbled upon this post http://www.binarytides.com/install- quanta-plus-ubuntu-13-04/ about installing Quanta plus under Raring. And it worked for me. The thus installed Quanta survived the upgrade from Raring to Saucy and runs under KDE 4.11. Big drawback: all my other KDE3 application were gone, since the original kdelibs4c2a was uninstalled during the upgrade process. And for some reason they were not in the Trinity packages. But I still could find them on lauchpad: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/i386/ Here I searched for all the packages I needed and downloaded them. Then I edited them acording to the procedure proposed by @robegue in post #17. I basically did two things: 1. I moved all stuff whch was found under /usr to /opt/kde3, where the Trinity packeges are installed 2. I edited the control file to change the dependencies which basically means I added -kde3 to kdelibs4c2a, since the Trinity project renamed all packages by adding -kde3. Last but not least I added /opt/kde3/bin to the PATH variable to make sure that the programs can be evoked by their name instead of the full path. Probalbly it would be wise to add something to the man path etc. too, but I couldn't be bothered. @Silver Moon: as described above one gets Quanta plus running under 13.10. But you have to make sure to uninstall the kdelibs4c2a package as well as the old kdelibs-data. @Martin Schläffer: with the kde3 maintainers repository already exists a PPA which holds a working kdelibs4c2a. The only thing, not all programs found their way into this repo. What about publishing the missing packages on your PPA? I could contribute hacked lucid packages for klamav, kleansweep, knmap, knoda, kstreamripper and ktranslator. But it would be a good idea if someone with more insight in packaging would have a look at my packages first. Have fun. Knut -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1100622 Title: package kdelibs5-plugins (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/ktelnetservice', which is also in package kdelibs4c2a 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-3ubuntu2.10.04.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/1100622/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1100622] Re: package kdelibs5-plugins (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/ktelnetservice', which is also in package kdelibs4c2a 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-3ubuntu2.10.04
Hi Martin, great idea. I'll join in. See you at the ppa. Knut -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1100622 Title: package kdelibs5-plugins (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/ktelnetservice', which is also in package kdelibs4c2a 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-3ubuntu2.10.04.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/1100622/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1100622] Re: package kdelibs5-plugins (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/ktelnetservice', which is also in package kdelibs4c2a 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-3ubuntu2.10.04
Hi robegue, 1. you are right, my fault. Didn't copy your command into the terminal but simply chaged the last one and thus was invoking: dpkg-deb -i ../newpackage.deb The package I install with GDebi. 2. My idea was getting all the old stuff out of the way just in case later changes in newer packages would lead to more conflicts like this one. Moving the old libs and applications into another directory at least would prevent them from being overridden, I thought. In your post #14 you were mentioning that this fix isn't a long term solution. Hoped my idea could be one. But maybe I think the wrong way. Don't know nothing about packaging and even prefer tools like moun or synaptic to the command line. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1100622 Title: package kdelibs5-plugins (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/ktelnetservice', which is also in package kdelibs4c2a 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-3ubuntu2.10.04.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/1100622/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1100622] Re: package kdelibs5-plugins (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/ktelnetservice', which is also in package kdelibs4c2a 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-3ubuntu2.10.04
And here the updated package. ** Attachment added: "kdelibs4c2a_3.5.10.dfsg.1-6ubuntu2_i386.deb" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4libs/+bug/1100622/+attachment/3579577/+files/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.10.dfsg.1-6ubuntu2_i386.deb -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1100622 Title: package kdelibs5-plugins (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/ktelnetservice', which is also in package kdelibs4c2a 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-3ubuntu2.10.04.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/1100622/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1100622] Re: package kdelibs5-plugins (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/ktelnetservice', which is also in package kdelibs4c2a 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-3ubuntu2.10.04
Thanks robegue, it worked like a charm. Got the new version installed and now the old kde3-apps won't be marked for deinstallation on upgrade to 4.10 anymore. There are two more questions I've got. 1. shouldn't it be "pkg -I ../newpackage.deb" with capital I. The other option wasn't recognized. 2. wouldn't it be possible to get all the kde3-applications out of the way by editing their respective Debian packages. What I mean is in case of kdelibs4c2a for instance changing the directory tree like this: /usr -> /kde3 Wouldn't that mean, that all applications, libraries and documentation files would be installed under /kde3 instead /usr? Adding the new paths should be enough to make them accessible. The only thing that worries me ist the file installed under /etc. But there it already has been installed into a kde3-subdirectory. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1100622 Title: package kdelibs5-plugins (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/ktelnetservice', which is also in package kdelibs4c2a 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-3ubuntu2.10.04.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/1100622/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1100622] Re: package kdelibs5-plugins (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/ktelnetservice', which is also in package kdelibs4c2a 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-3ubuntu2.10.04
thanks robegue for providing the new package. Can I use it with an i386-installation as well? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1100622 Title: package kdelibs5-plugins (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/ktelnetservice', which is also in package kdelibs4c2a 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-3ubuntu2.10.04.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/1100622/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1100622] Re: package kdelibs5-plugins (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/ktelnetservice', which is also in package kdelibs4c2a 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-3ubuntu2.10.04
My problem seems related but is even worse. Upgrading via muon in quantal from 4.9.4 to 4.10 worked like a charm but all my precious kde3-applications, which until this moment resided peacefully side by side with kde4, were deinstalled during the process. Only could get them back by playing back an image I fortunately had taken befor upgrading. Giving it a second try I can't find a way in muon to get kde4.10 installed without kde3-applications being deinstalled. So my question. Is there a new kdelibs4c2a in some ppa wich I can update to, so that kde4.10 doesn't encounter a conflict? Where can I find it? Or, how does this override-thing work. Neither muon nor muon-updater offer this option as far as I know. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1100622 Title: package kdelibs5-plugins (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/ktelnetservice', which is also in package kdelibs4c2a 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-3ubuntu2.10.04.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/1100622/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs