[Bug 1892440] Re: Shell text is too small in mutter 3.36.4-0ubuntu0.20.04.2
> How much did you pay to Canonical for using Ubuntu 20.04? How much are you willing to pay to Canonical for a fix? I feel this, and "if you don't like it go use proprietary software," are extremely harmful perspectives. Open source is still evolving, and it's not so much about demanding free labor from Canonical as it is about preventing broken updates from being published to universe in the first place, providing for some sort of rapid rollback protocol when that does happen, or something. At this stage in Ubuntu's life, I think it is a healthy standard to say, "if we break the gnome-shell GUI on every box running 20.04, we should rapidly roll-back that update and/or fix it". -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1892440 Title: Shell text is too small in mutter 3.36.4-0ubuntu0.20.04.2 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+bug/1892440/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1892440] Re: Shell text is too small in mutter 3.36.4-0ubuntu0.20.04.2
[PLEASE SEE COMMENT #17 FOR A WORKAROUND.] > OK, you state it's a massive bug breaking desktops. Is this really true? Is it a security issue? Are you not able to use the desktop because of this bug? It's fair enough to point out that it's (probably) not a security bug, but it IS pretty substantial bug in that it affects the entire gnome- shell GUI. > IMHO it's just a minor issue causing an annoying graphics design. I even would never have taken notice of the bug on my system if not a forum user of https://ubuntuusers.de/ asked for help there. How many users do experience this bug? Judging by the responses, a lot. It doesn't even seem limited to a specific graphics vendor. > OK, packages in universe repo should be free of critical bugs. Thank you, I'm glad you agree. > But as we all know, bugs are phenomena in software engineering, that can > occur due to human nature of programmers. Nobody's perfect thus no human work > is ever perfect. I'm very sure there are good reasons for the delay. Absolutely, and I don't mean to take away from the engineers working on it either. It's just embarrassing - Windows users would never have to deal with this, for instance. PopOS pushed a fix pretty quickly, so you can see that there are Ubuntu flavors who are actively managing themselves better than Canonical is managing the main distro. > My guess is simply there's not enough manpower in regard to the severity of > the mutter bug. Software engineering is a very time consuming task and good > code doesn't come from heaven. Yes, I'm understanding of this. It's just usually you can hold Ubuntu to a pretty high standard, and I echoed others' sentiments that this is taking longer than it could to fix. > If you are skilled enough to contribute code, why don't you help but instead > complain? I probably WILL dedicate time to this, but the bug has an assignee and I am not sure if I would be re-doing redundant work that is already done. This issue makes it pretty clear that we have some organizational issues as far as maintaining Ubuntu Desktop goes (incl. pre-release testing), and this 1999-style bug ticket system probably doesn't help these issues get addressed or triaged any better. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1892440 Title: Shell text is too small in mutter 3.36.4-0ubuntu0.20.04.2 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+bug/1892440/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1892440] Re: Shell text is too small in mutter 3.36.4-0ubuntu0.20.04.2
That’s an extremely limited perspective, Stefan. My point is that ideally, nobody would push a version of mutter with a massive bug that breaks desktops around the world in the first place. As I said, it is extremely embarrassing. Defending bad software design is even more embarrassing. It’s not asking for “free lunch” to say that packages in the universe repos should be free of critical bugs, I have no idea what kind of uninspired simpleton would defend a major package staying broken for several months. This community sometimes, I swear. On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 10:15 AM schollsky <1892...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote: > This tendency is childish. > > > > If you want warranted security with fast(?) bug fixing, look out for a > > proprietary OS solution or better contribute to Ubuntu by coding support. > > > > Please stop behaving like a child: > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_ain't_no_such_thing_as_a_free_lunch > > > > If you want freedom of choice, you should better get along with the > > implications. > > > > Best regards > > > > Stefan > > > > Am 09.09.20 um 08:32 schrieb Telework Inc.: > > > vervelover is honestly right, this is pretty embarrassing. > > > > > > > -- > > stefan.czinczoll[at]arcor.de > > https://schollsky.jimdofree.com > > > > -- > > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug > > report. > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1892440 > > > > Title: > > Shell text is too small in mutter 3.36.4-0ubuntu0.20.04.2 > > > > Status in mutter package in Ubuntu: > > Confirmed > > Status in mutter source package in Focal: > > Confirmed > > > > Bug description: > > See also bug 1892521. > > > > The package mutter version (3.36.4-0ubuntu0.20.04.2) for Ubuntu 20.04 > > causes small text in GNOME Shell menu with NVIDIA cards. > > > > With a previous version (3.36.4-0ubuntu0.20.04.1) all works fine. The > problem is after update to the (3.36.4-0ubuntu0.20.04.2). > > --- > > ProblemType: Bug > > ApportVersion: 2.20.11-0ubuntu27.8 > > Architecture: amd64 > > CasperMD5CheckResult: skip > > CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME > > DistroRelease: Ubuntu 20.04 > > InstallationDate: Installed on 2020-08-18 (2 days ago) > > InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 20.04.1 2020.08.15 LTS "Custom Focal Fossa" > (20200815) > > NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia_modeset nvidia > > Package: mutter 3.36.4-0ubuntu0.20.04.2 > > PackageArchitecture: amd64 > > ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 5.4.0-42.46-generic 5.4.44 > > Tags: focal > > Uname: Linux 5.4.0-42-generic x86_64 > > UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) > > UserGroups: adm cdrom dip lpadmin lxd plugdev sambashare sudo > > _MarkForUpload: True > > modified.conffile..etc.default.apport: > ># set this to 0 to disable apport, or to 1 to enable it > ># you can temporarily override this with > ># sudo service apport start force_start=1 > >enabled=0 > > mtime.conffile..etc.default.apport: 2020-08-15T17:44:36 > > > > To manage notifications about this bug go to: > > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+bug/1892440/+subscriptions > > -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1892440 Title: Shell text is too small in mutter 3.36.4-0ubuntu0.20.04.2 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+bug/1892440/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1892440] Re: Shell text is too small in mutter 3.36.4-0ubuntu0.20.04.2
vervelover is honestly right, this is pretty embarrassing. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1892440 Title: Shell text is too small in mutter 3.36.4-0ubuntu0.20.04.2 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+bug/1892440/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1892440] Re: Shell text is too small in mutter 3.36.4-0ubuntu0.20.04.2
Have held back Mutter for now in the manner provided in comment #17. Following for updates. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1892440 Title: Shell text is too small in mutter 3.36.4-0ubuntu0.20.04.2 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+bug/1892440/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
