[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
I also noticed actual versions of xkb-data & xkb-data-i18n in Ubuntu 14.04.4/5 broke again right-ctrl-key with french ( alternative ) keyboard. I've fixed it installing versions from xenial, using dpkg command. http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/xkb-data http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/xkb-data-i18n -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
@Dominique Meèus : how did you install xkb-data 2.12-1 in Trusty ? I've downloaded the .deb from https://packages.debian.org/sid/all/xkb-data/download but gdebi says : État : Erreur : n'est plus fourni xkb-data I've tried through Logithèque which seems to install it (no error message) but still no classic right control key even after rebooting. I'm using keyboard : Français (variante) and the keymap still shows level 5… under Right Ctrl key. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
As Trusty Tahr is a LTS edition, it should include the bug resolution so that it won't last for years. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
it would be nice to have a bug we can use for the SRU, not sure if that one is appropriate since it's years old and close. Otherwise agreed that we should fix that issue in trusty -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
Sebastien Bacher a écrit ce qui suit, le 23/07/14 12:10 : it would be nice to have a bug we can use for the SRU, not sure if that one is appropriate since it's years old and close. Otherwise agreed that we should fix that issue in trusty In the Debian sid package xkb-data 2.12-1, the bug *is* corrected (Ubuntu is still at 2.10). I did install it in 14.04 and test with the Belgian alternate keyboard (based on the French). Both Ctrl keys do act as Ctrl. I do not understand the thing that would be nice to have above, but it is not an issue any more for Debian testing or for Debian unstable. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
Hi, Any chance to see this bug fixed in Trusty too? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
** Changed in: xkeyboard-config Status: Confirmed = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
I don't believe this thread... Really, this is just unbelivable! Nicolas, I don't know you, but you should seriously try to work on yourself and learn to accept when you're wrong. For the virtual poll here, I say : PUT BACK THE CRTL-R KEY. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
Please give us our Right Ctrl key back. Forcing everyone to make his own .Xmodmap to bypass the bug *is* the disproportionnate thing IMO. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
I discovered that bug with Ubuntu 14.04. Seriously what's the hell! Sorry to be rude but Nicolas you seriously fucked up here and raised an hungry mob. I'm a full time developper and I just cannot think about writing code without CTRL_R. It make me feel so hungry when I discovered that bug and even more at what caused that. I was like: WTF Seriouslyy F Temp fix: echo 'keycode 105 = Control_R' ~/.Xmodmap echo 'add Control = Control_R' ~/.Xmodmap echo 'xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap' ~/.bashrc source ~/.bashrc -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
is there generic popular Linux-oriented site in France? Like slashdot.org or smth... LinuxFr.org -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
is there generic popular Linux-oriented site in France? Like slashdot.org or smth... LinuxFr.org -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
Bonjour, moi aussi je préfère que ma touche rctrl (Control R) se comporte comme une touche Control, et non comme level5_machin_chose. Merci d'avance, alex Hello, so would I rather my rctrl key to behave as a control key. Thanks, alex -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
Give us back - please - the right control key acting the same as left control key. http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=1563071 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
By the way, with this modification, the drawing around line 120 in/usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/fr is wrong because it shows a keyboard with a Ctrl key on the right, not a Level5 thing... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
I really do not understand why this key is disabled. If it is there, it is certainly not to make the keyboard look pretty. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
Yes, please give it back ! Moreover I got two Super keys (with windows logo), why my right Super is also broken ? Is it the same problem as Ctrl ? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
Rendez-vous la touche Ctrl-Droite, souiplait :-/ PLEASE GIVE US OUR RIGHT [CTRL] KEY BEHAVING AS A [CTRL] KEY BACK !!! It is especially important for left-handed people. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
Hello, I am french, I use the Français (variante) keymap because I like how the keys are arranged (², ³, œ, etc). I also am left-handed and use Ctrl-Up and Ctrl-Down to switch desktops. I do so by using RCtrl + arrows, keeping my left hand on the mouse. Now, on Ubuntu 14.04, I am also suffering from this weird level5 thing. For some reason I don't really understand, I should now use both hands to change desktops (I replaced Ctrl-Alt-Up/Down with Ctrl-Up/Down with to not use both hands, as you understood). By the way, as stated in a previous comment, RCtrl is a very important key on VirtualBox... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
I would also like to add that Ctrl-PgUp and Ctrl-PgDown, to change tabs in tabbed apps (GNOME Terminal or Firefox, for example), now need a manipulation involving both hands. This is clearly a big regression, at least for left-handed people, probably for right-handed people too... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
Just upgraded to Trusty and found about this not working Right- Ctrl-gate. What a PITA. My work-around for now : select Français (variante obsolète) Regards, Patrick. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
This bug is still present in package xkb-data 2.10.1ubuntu1 (trusty): include level5(rctrl_switch) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
Launchpad has imported 39 comments from the remote bug at https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15804. If you reply to an imported comment from within Launchpad, your comment will be sent to the remote bug automatically. Read more about Launchpad's inter-bugtracker facilities at https://help.launchpad.net/InterBugTracking. On 2008-05-02T11:31:59+00:00 Ludovic Lebègue wrote: Gnome default setup when Xorg keyboard is fr/oss leads to the France Alternative layout. In this layout some application can't handle space caracter properly. (See URL as some exemples). Workaround is to force France Alternative, latin9 only in Gnome or change Xorg.conf replacing : Option XkbVariantoss by Option XkbVariantlatin9 Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard- config/+bug/1013881/comments/0 On 2008-05-02T11:32:46+00:00 Ludovic Lebègue wrote: Created attachment 16310 xorg.conf Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard- config/+bug/1013881/comments/1 On 2008-05-02T13:32:00+00:00 Sergey V. Udaltsov wrote: First of all, GNOME represents whatever is in base.xml. There is default French layout and several variants (including oss and oss_latin9). User choses whatever he wants. So I am not really sure what is the essence of your complain. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard- config/+bug/1013881/comments/2 On 2008-05-02T14:19:32+00:00 Ludovic Lebègue wrote: From the user's point of view there was no choice made when installing Ubuntu 8.04 (just picked a French keyboard without knowing the underlying mechanism). In the end some functions are altered. According to what I understand (and I have no real knowledge of the process) 1- User install X = picks a keyboard 2- X is somehow configured with XkbdLayout and XkbdVariant in /etc/X11/xorg.conf 3- GNOME picks these value and reads the associated entries in /etc/X11/xkb/base.xml to use them as default. Step 1 and 2 above = This is the responsability of the linux distribution to configure xorg.conf. In Ubuntu it seems that debconf is the xorg.conf creation tool (according to the comment). Is this tool responsible to pick oss instead of latin9 ? What do you think ? Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard- config/+bug/1013881/comments/3 On 2008-05-02T14:23:37+00:00 Ludovic Lebègue wrote: Another idea here : Perhaps is it simply the oss variant that is faulty and does not behave as expected ? (In that case it seems to trigger a ctrl+space when the user press space) Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard- config/+bug/1013881/comments/4 On 2008-05-02T15:35:40+00:00 Sergey V. Udaltsov wrote: This is actually distro-specific, xkeyboard-config has nothing to do with it. FWIW fr(oss) produces space when space is pressed. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard- config/+bug/1013881/comments/5 On 2008-05-02T15:43:18+00:00 Ludovic Lebègue wrote: Let's take the following assumptions : 1 - configure manually xorg.conf (no distro involved here) to put fr variant oss 2 - use GNOME who accurately detects France Alternative 3 - try to search something in Rhythmbox involving a space caracter. 4 - it fails as if ctrl+space was triggered instead of space I'm just trying to figure where the bug is... The point is as for now it actually seems to be in oss because of the manual configuration step. How can we make sure ? Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/comments/6 On 2008-05-02T15:51:01+00:00 Sergey V. Udaltsov wrote: You can easily check. Try running xev utility and press space Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard- config/+bug/1013881/comments/7 On 2008-05-02T17:23:47+00:00 Ludovic Lebègue wrote: Just made a check with xev. Everything seems fine at xev level. From xev point of view pressing space returns char 20 = which indeed is a space. My latest idea about oss being the source of the problem is not the good one. Did you try the configuration to reproduce the bug ? That is : = xorg.conf such as the attachment I made = Set 'France Alternative' as default keyboard in GNOME. then launch rhythmbox and try to search with something including a space caracter. Reply at:
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
** Branch linked: lp:~jm-leddy/ubuntu/quantal/xkeyboard-config/micmute -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
This bug was fixed in the package xkeyboard-config - 2.5-1ubuntu6 --- xkeyboard-config (2.5-1ubuntu6) quantal; urgency=low * Disable patch 109. The fix causes behavioral changes for right control. Needs to be fixed differently; discussion ongoing upstream. (LP: #1013881) -- Bryce Harrington br...@ubuntu.com Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:08:18 -0700 ** Changed in: xkeyboard-config (Ubuntu) Status: In Progress = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/xkeyboard-config -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
The fix for this cannot progress to precise-updates until it is fixed in quantal. Can somebody please confirm that the bug is fixed in quantal? Preferrably by marking the bug status as 'Fix Released'. ** Also affects: xkeyboard-config (Ubuntu Precise) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: xkeyboard-config (Ubuntu Precise) Status: New = Fix Committed ** Changed in: xkeyboard-config (Ubuntu Precise) Importance: Undecided = High -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
This particular bug pertains to the /reverting/ of a patch that was included in a previous SRU upload that was not yet promoted to -updates. So solving this in quantal should not be a blocker for promoting this SRU. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
This bug was fixed in the package xkeyboard-config - 2.5-1ubuntu1.3 --- xkeyboard-config (2.5-1ubuntu1.3) precise-proposed; urgency=low * Add 113_ossmath_is_five_levels.patch: Some keymaps like fr(oss) fail to load because they include ossmath (via keypad(oss)) which misconfigures the keypad as 4-level when it should be 5-level. This patch from upstream bugzilla fixes this by adding the 5th level to the ossmath definition. (LP: #985065) * Drop 109_fr_oss_space_char.patch change; the fix causes behavioral changes for right control which a fr(oss) user did not like. (LP: #1013881) xkeyboard-config (2.5-1ubuntu1.2) precise-proposed; urgency=low * Add 111_cz_ssharp.patch: Fix mapping of 4th level of the AC11 key to ssharp rather than quotedbl for the Czech layout. Cherrypick of patch from upstream. (LP: #953477) * Add 112_dk_dvorak_tilde.patch: Fix tilde key in the Danish Dvorak layout. It's not the same as Norwegian as has been assumed previously. (LP: #989626) xkeyboard-config (2.5-1ubuntu1.1) precise-proposed; urgency=low * Add 109_fr_oss_space_char.patch: Fix problems using space bar in various applications when using the fr(oss) keymap. (was for LP bug 221112) * Add 110_dead_hook_horn.patch: Add two deadkeys on level 3 and 4 of the j key for the latin keymap. (LP: #825624) -- Bryce Harrington br...@ubuntu.com Mon, 25 Jun 2012 17:32:15 -0700 ** Changed in: xkeyboard-config (Ubuntu Precise) Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/precise-proposed/xkeyboard-config -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
@Emmanual: the reason we rolled back rather than include that nl-n 1 liner change is that we want to see the other fixes out and it's still not clear that the change is the correct one and wouldn't create issues and lead to another SRU verification fail. Do you know the drawbacks we would have exactly with doing that change? It was mentioned upstream that it would make easier to insert nbsp chars by mistake, would you consider that a regression? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
I've analysed the use of nbsp(levelX) in all the keyboards defined in /usr/share/X11/xkb Keyboards defining nbsp on level 3: ./symbols/tr:include nbsp(level3) ./symbols/fi:include nbsp(level3) ./symbols/lt:include nbsp(level3) ./symbols/fr:include nbsp(level3) // French (legacy, alternative) ./symbols/no:include nbsp(level3n) ./symbols/ca:include nbsp(level3s) Keyboards defineinf nbsp on level4: ./symbols/fi:include nbsp(level4) ./symbols/fi:include nbsp(level4) ./symbols/fr:include nbsp(level4nl)// The only keyboard using level4nl -- which I think is buggy. What nbsp(levelX) exactly means: nbsp:level2 Non-breakable space character at second level nbsp:level3 Non-breakable space character at third level nbsp:level3s Non-breakable space character at third level, nothing at fourth level nbsp:level3n Non-breakable space character at third level, thin non-breakable space character at fourth level nbsp:level4 Non-breakable space character at fourth level nbsp:level4n Non-breakable space character at fourth level, thin non-breakable space character at sixth level nbsp:level4nlNon-breakable space character at fourth level, thin non-breakable space character at sixth level (via Ctrl+Shift) Broken with RhythmBox We have the following choices after dropping the level4nl (which is the cause of the RhythmBox problem): – using level4n works (I've tested it), but actually I can't produce thin-nbsp as I don't know how to get sixth level. However, fr-oss defines thin-nbsp on AltGr-V. – using level4 might work just like level4n (I can test it). It has the advantage of being in use in finish keyboard (fewer risk of bug). – level3s is in use in Canada, but as you said, some people have complained that it leads to mistyping (I don't agree, but it is only my opinion). If you want nbsp accessible from the space bar, with a slight change for those who use AltGr-Shift-Space to get nbsp, choose level3n. * nsbp on AltGr-Space / thin-nbsp on AltGet-Shift-Space and AltGr-V) If you want a conservative choice, choose level4 (thin-nbsp still available on Alt-Gr V). * nsbp on AltGr-Shift-Space / thin-nbsp on AltGr-V) I prefer the first option, but I won't complain if you choose the conservative one. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
Hello Emmanuel, or anyone else affected, Accepted xkeyboard-config into precise-proposed. The package will build now and be available at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard- config/2.5-1ubuntu1.3 in a few hours, and then in the -proposed repository. Please help us by testing this new package. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed for documentation how to enable and use -proposed. Your feedback will aid us getting this update out to other Ubuntu users. If this package fixes the bug for you, please change the bug tag from verification-needed to verification-done. If it does not, change the tag to verification-failed. In either case, details of your testing will help us make a better decision. Further information regarding the verification process can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/PerformingSRUVerification . Thank you in advance! ** Tags added: verification-needed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
Unfortunately, the test failed: – Right Ctrl works = OK – Rhythmbox Ctrl-Space works = KO – Nbsp is available (on level 4) = OK I think it w -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
Unfortunately, the test failed: – Right Ctrl works = OK – Rhythmbox Ctrl-Space works = KO – Nbsp is available (on level 4) = OK I think I was not clear in comment #24. The comment #22 of Sebastien Bacher is clearer. The line 128 of symbol/fr include nbsp(level4nl) must be replaced by include nbsp(level4n) For an unknown reason, the line «include nbsp(level4nl)» produces the bug of Rhythmbox. Next time might be the right time. ** Tags removed: verification-needed ** Tags added: verification-failed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
Emmanuel, the intent of this latest upload is to roll back *all* changes to the space handling, so that the SRU can proceed with the other unrelated fixes rather than being blocked by a perfect solution to this one. From that perspective, my understanding is that the change that's applied here *has* fixed the issue you reported in this bug, hasn't it? In that things now work consistently for you between versions 2.5-1ubuntu1 and 2.5-1ubuntu1.3 of xkb-data? In that case, could you please mark this bug 'verification-done' rather than 'verification-failed', and we'll use the original bug, bug #221112, for tracking the Ctrl+Space issue. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
Ok ** Tags removed: verification-failed ** Tags added: verification-done -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
Since 2.5-1ubuntu1.1 is included in precise-updates now, I guess this bug will become very popular... Excuse my ignorance, but what is the SRU. When you say upstream, do you mean the FreeDesktop bug? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
Yes, I am left handed! So what? Nothing specific, you took that the wrong way, as said I was trying to have a feeling of what percentage of the users it concerns and what is their usecase, I didn't say it was fine to bug anyone, but understand that any of the suggested solution so far do bother a part of the userbase, so we are stucked in choising what part is the smallest one or what issue is easier to work around Since 2.5-1ubuntu1.1 is included in precise-updates now, I guess this bug will become very popular... No, it's not, as pointed before that patch and behaviour was default in Ubuntu in the lucid LTS and for years and we get very few negative feedback about it, I'm sorry it's impacting you directly but that doesn't make it an issue that impact every french user... Excuse my ignorance, but what is the SRU. stable release update, that's how we can bug fixes uploaded to stable series When you say upstream, do you mean the FreeDesktop bug? yes -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
note also that the bug is easy to work around, you can change for another french layout than the french (variante) one in the system settings -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
Ok, checking on lucid, by then we had this fix: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/44180279/xkeyboard-config_1.8-1ubuntu6_1.8-1ubuntu7.diff.gz # Description: Don't include level4nl but only level4n for french oss layout. # both space and Ctrl + space returned the same XLookupString, which prevents # space using in some application using gtk_action_group_add_toggle_actions # to setup Ctrl + space accelerator. We loose rctrl accelator but that's better # than not having space in those applications and setup it manually will # reintroduce https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/198759 # Ubuntu: https://launchpad.net/bugs/221112 # Upstream: http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15804 Index: xkeyboard-config-1.8/symbols/fr === --- xkeyboard-config-1.8.orig/symbols/fr2010-04-14 17:52:47.850615502 +0200 +++ xkeyboard-config-1.8/symbols/fr 2010-04-14 17:53:03.174604295 +0200 @@ -129,7 +129,7 @@ include latin include level3(ralt_switch) -include nbsp(level4nl) +include nbsp(level4n) include keypad(oss) name[Group1]=France - Alternative; so by then we didn't add the include level5(rctrl_switch) line ... does anyone know why it was added this time? it seems lucid in fact had both rhythmbox and rctrl working -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
Bryce, 2.5-1ubuntu1.1 is included in precise-updates now, since the SRU request was accepted and processed. No, it isn't. The 2.5-1ubuntu1.2 SRU was accepted (incorrectly) into precise-proposed before 2.5-1ubuntu1.1 was promoted to precise-updates. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
I've just tested the patch from Sebastian, i.e. removing the «include level5(rctrl_switch)» from the current precise-proposed package. The behavior is Ok for me: – Right Ctrl works – Rhythmbox Ctrl-Space works – Nbsp is available (on level 4). Now, what is the procedure to cook the patch of the patch? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
Steve, ah, weird, I assumed the previous version was supposed to get pushed to -updates before a new sru would go in. In that case, then yes I can just discard the earlier fix. I've done so and re-uploaded 2.5-1ubuntu1.3 with that reverted out. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
@Emmanual: we will get an update with the other pending fixes out while the question of the space,ctrl issue is sorted, we will address that one in another update -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
** Changed in: xkeyboard-config (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) = Canonical Desktop Team (canonical-desktop-team) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
Hey Bryce, could you look at that bug? I can't confirm the issue there using a fr oss layout on my french precise but maybe it depends of special configs or interactions ** Changed in: xkeyboard-config (Ubuntu) Assignee: Canonical Desktop Team (canonical-desktop-team) = Bryce Harrington (bryce) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
As stated previously (#9), the problem only appears when activating the 'precise-proposed' package source. However, if it is not solved now, the problem will appear for every user using the French Oss keyboard (that is most of French users). 2012/6/25 Sebastien Bacher seb...@ubuntu.com Hey Bryce, could you look at that bug? I can't confirm the issue there using a fr oss layout on my french precise but maybe it depends of special configs or interactions ** Changed in: xkeyboard-config (Ubuntu) Assignee: Canonical Desktop Team (canonical-desktop-team) = Bryce Harrington (bryce) -- You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
Emmanual: reading the upstream bug we have the choice between - having space input broken in media players (i.e rhythmbox) - having rctrl broken - having a layout that leads to wrongly input nbsp chars neiher of those look to good and I'm not sure what's the best solution, I will need to check what lucid was doing but - the rhythmbox issue was solved at this time (not sure if the fix was already breaking rctrl there) - we really want the rhythmbox issue fixed, so if we have to choice we will pick one of the 2 other bugs - I'm not sure how many users use rctrl, I'm french and I never used it nor saw people around me use ... are you left handed (I'm wondering if that reverses usage and if a lefty would use the right ctrl)? until we get those questions sorted we will stay on the current behaviour which seems the less annoying from the ones listed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
Yes, I am left handed! So what? Having RCtrl broken is against the tradition of computer keyboards. It is against the philosophy of Ubuntu: computer for people – including left handed, those who are born with two hands, and those who have to type only with one. Letting a bug in Rhythmbox is not a good option too. What does lead to wrongly input nbsp chars if we put it into level 3 instead of level 4? Most of keyboards use level3, except a Finland one which use «include nbsp(level4)», not «include nbsp(level4n)» I think the the support of nbsp(level4n) is broken in X11. And really, removing RCtrl is not an option. 2012/6/26 Sebastien Bacher seb...@ubuntu.com Emmanual: reading the upstream bug we have the choice between - having space input broken in media players (i.e rhythmbox) - having rctrl broken - having a layout that leads to wrongly input nbsp chars neiher of those look to good and I'm not sure what's the best solution, I will need to check what lucid was doing but - the rhythmbox issue was solved at this time (not sure if the fix was already breaking rctrl there) - we really want the rhythmbox issue fixed, so if we have to choice we will pick one of the 2 other bugs - I'm not sure how many users use rctrl, I'm french and I never used it nor saw people around me use ... are you left handed (I'm wondering if that reverses usage and if a lefty would use the right ctrl)? until we get those questions sorted we will stay on the current behaviour which seems the less annoying from the ones listed -- You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
The change is from patch 109_fr_oss_space_char.patch which was brought in with version 2.5-1ubuntu1.1. Changing the behavior of the right control key was intentional, as requested by reporters in bug #221112 to fix a bad problem that occurs when using Rhythmbox. 2.5-1ubuntu1.1 is included in precise-updates now, since the SRU request was accepted and processed. So it's too late to pull the fix, it'd need a new SRU filed with a reversion. Note that the patch in question was also included in Lucid and Maverick as a Ubuntu-specific patch (when RB was the default music player), but inadvertently got dropped for natty and oneiric. Meanwhile, the patch was sent upstream and accepted there. While the patch is a behavioral change compared with oneiric, since it preserves a behavior fixed in Lucid it seems sensible to me to include it to eliminate the LTS-LTS behavior change. As to the proposed alternate solution, I am open to that if it does indeed fix things for both parties, *and* if it gets taken upstream. I see that bug reporters have already raised that upstream, so thanks! What we're going to do is wait and see what upstream thinks about it, and if/when they commit a fix we can consider pulling it for Ubuntu too. ** Changed in: xkeyboard-config (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = In Progress ** Also affects: xkeyboard-config via https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15804 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
High - A problem with an essential hardware component (Keyboard) ** Changed in: xkeyboard-config (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = High -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
Do you need help from me to solve the problem? Cordially Emmanuel Castro 2012/6/24 Dave Gilbert ubu...@treblig.org High - A problem with an essential hardware component (Keyboard) ** Changed in: xkeyboard-config (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = High -- You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
Thanks to Emmanuel Castro for the workaround (forcing a previous version). The choice w -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
Sorry, pushed some wrong key. [The choice…] was between 2.5-1ubuntu1 (precise) and 2.5-1ubuntu2 (precise-proposed). On https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuUpdates, I read: « Enabling the proposed updates repository can break your system. It is not recommended for inexperienced users. » I didn’t know this. I unchecked Proposed in my updates choices for the future. The update was introducing level5(rctrl_switch) in response to a long complicated discussion (https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15804) about some applications using some Ctrl+space shortcut. To me it seems that everybody expects to have two Ctrl keys on a regular PC keyboard. Suppressing the right Ctrl should be an option for those who need it, not the default. ** Bug watch added: freedesktop.org Bugzilla #15804 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15804 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
Thank you for the information. I am puzzled by the way how the bug FreeDesktop bug 15804 was handled! The correct way to solve the RhythmBox bug was to remove the line include nbsp(level4nl) not patching the keyboard with the ugly include level5(rctrl_switch) Ok, we are loosing the non-breaking space. Only people doing typesetting use it anyway. If the nbsp(level4nl) can't be solved for RhythmBox, maybe they should have their separate keyboard. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
And what if instead of level 4, we put non-breaking space to level 3. I find it is more convenient (and I think I am not alone). So, instead of: include nbsp(level4nl) we put non-breaking space to level 3: include nbsp(level3n) This gives us back the Right-Ctrl. It does not break RhythmBox behaviour any more. And people using non-breaking spaces will be happy. Thanks to Domique Meeùs for his useful suggetions -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: xkeyboard-config (Ubuntu) Status: New = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
With Belgian OSS, I have the same Ctrl-R changed into Level5 as Emmanuel Castro (his attached image 2012-06-16). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
It is probably because the config file for Belgian OSS include French OSS. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~alexeyten/xkeyboard-config/master/view/1477/symbols/be line 69 Par ailleurs, pour revenir à un clavier qui marche : – lancez Synaptics (installez le si besoin), – sélectionnez le paquet xkb-data. – allez dans le menu Paquets | Forcer la version..., sélectionnez 2.5-1ubuntu1 (precise) à la place de 2.5-1ubuntu1.2, et appuyez sur le bouton Forcer la version ; – et enfin fermez votre session et ouvrez-en une nouvelle. Longue vie au Ctrl-droit ! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
It seems to be linked to this modification in wkeyboard-config http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~alexeyten/xkeyboard-config/master/revision/1477#symbols/fr It don't know what it tries to solve, but actually it creates more pain. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
The right CTRL key is wrongly assigned to Level5 (see the attached picture). ** Attachment added: The right CTRL key is wrongly assigned to Level5 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+attachment/3192533/+files/French%20keyboard.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
-- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881] Re: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
Do note that the bug was reported AFTER switching back to the last fully functional version of xkb-data. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
