[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] HandBrake
Handbrake is already in Ubuntu since Trusty. ** Changed in: ubuntu Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 Title: [needs-packaging] HandBrake To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/105458/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] HandBrake
** Changed in: baltix Importance: Undecided = Medium ** Changed in: baltix Assignee: (unassigned) = Mantas Kriaučiūnas (mantas) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 Title: [needs-packaging] HandBrake To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/105458/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] HandBrake
Handbrake got commited to raring-proposed several hours ago. Still not available in 13.10. Any news about this? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 Title: [needs-packaging] HandBrake To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/105458/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] HandBrake
Handbrake requires libav9, and possibly some others upgraded. We'll try to have everything in place for trusty. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 Title: [needs-packaging] HandBrake To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/105458/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] HandBrake
Handbrake got commited to raring-proposed several hours ago. Please see bug 1114173. ** Changed in: ubuntu Status: Confirmed = Fix Committed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 Title: [needs-packaging] HandBrake To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/105458/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] HandBrake
Hi, Paul. (I'm CC'ing pkg-multimedia-maintainers, as there are many people there interested in handbrake---and they have done a lot to help me getting handbrake in shape in Debian). On Feb 03 2013, Paul Gevers wrote: On 02-02-13 12:31, Rogério Theodoro de Brito wrote: The only reason why it was uploaded to experimental is that we didn't want to disrupt with Debian's freeze for the release of wheezy. Ok, understood. Does this mean that a sync request for Ubuntu is safe. Yes, it is. Just be sure to make it clear to the users (perhaps updating the package's long description) that the package does not have the two features that I cited due to sad licensing reasons. Of course, those that only use things will curse and moan, but they don't know how it is to get these things straight. Just for the record, the package is with reduced functionality, due to license reasons: Understood, but as Ubuntu follows Debian if nobody put in the time to do something different, I think that is 100% acceptable. OK, great. Any kind of help is mostly appreciated, especially when talking to upstream and: This is not a package that is so trivial to make available on a distribution and I have spent many weeks trying to get it to a point where it was able to be included in Debian. I am currently working on getting an other project (openmotif) in shape for Debian. After that I might have the time to help if it is then still needed. Help is surely wanted. I am more or less stagnated with this, because I have not been able to put the necessary time to talk with upstream. Convincing them to cut a new stable release would be superb, as: 1 - They have some important features there (e.g., bob deinterlacing, a lot of work fixing subtitles etc). *and* 2 - It would make packaging significantly easier, as they are churning out new patches to third-party libraries that we already have in Debian (but not necessarity in patched form), and it would take coordination with maintainers of other packages, so that we all have compatible stuff. From handbrake's point of view, it is certainly the faster route to continue the development patching the libraries that they need (and bundle such libraries), but it is a major burden for distributions that want to have handbrake available in their repositories. More frequent releases from their part would be so much appreciated. Regards, -- Rogério Brito : rbrito@{ime.usp.br,gmail.com} : GPG key 4096R/BCFC http://rb.doesntexist.org/blog : Projects : https://github.com/rbrito/ DebianQA: http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=rbrito%40ime.usp.br -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 Title: [needs-packaging] HandBrake To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/105458/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] HandBrake
On 03-02-13 09:51, Rogério Theodoro de Brito wrote: Hi, Paul. (I'm CC'ing pkg-multimedia-maintainers, as there are many people there interested in handbrake---and they have done a lot to help me getting handbrake in shape in Debian). [I think you forgot to actually add the CC, doing it now.] On Feb 03 2013, Paul Gevers wrote: On 02-02-13 12:31, Rogério Theodoro de Brito wrote: The only reason why it was uploaded to experimental is that we didn't want to disrupt with Debian's freeze for the release of wheezy. Ok, understood. Does this mean that a sync request for Ubuntu is safe. Yes, it is. Just be sure to make it clear to the users (perhaps updating the package's long description) that the package does not have the two features that I cited due to sad licensing reasons. I would just ask for a SYNC, which means that the description is taken over as it is now in Debian. Don't you think the Debian users would want this warning as well, so that it warrants an update there? Of course, those that only use things will curse and moan, but they don't know how it is to get these things straight. Fully ACK. I have been involved in those kind of discussions before. Just for the record, the package is with reduced functionality, due to license reasons: Understood, but as Ubuntu follows Debian if nobody put in the time to do something different, I think that is 100% acceptable. OK, great. Any kind of help is mostly appreciated, especially when talking to upstream and: This is not a package that is so trivial to make available on a distribution and I have spent many weeks trying to get it to a point where it was able to be included in Debian. I am currently working on getting an other project (openmotif) in shape for Debian. After that I might have the time to help if it is then still needed. Help is surely wanted. I am more or less stagnated with this, because I have not been able to put the necessary time to talk with upstream. Convincing them to cut a new stable release would be superb, as: 1 - They have some important features there (e.g., bob deinterlacing, a lot of work fixing subtitles etc). *and* 2 - It would make packaging significantly easier, as they are churning out new patches to third-party libraries that we already have in Debian (but not necessarity in patched form), and it would take coordination with maintainers of other packages, so that we all have compatible stuff. From handbrake's point of view, it is certainly the faster route to continue the development patching the libraries that they need (and bundle such libraries), but it is a major burden for distributions that want to have handbrake available in their repositories. More frequent releases from their part would be so much appreciated. I understand. So you are basically saying that so far Handbrake upstream has not seen much interest in being nice to distributions? Shame on them then, or is it just that they don't know but are willing to learn? Paul -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 Title: [needs-packaging] HandBrake To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/105458/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] HandBrake
On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Paul Gevers p...@climbing.nl wrote: On 03-02-13 09:51, Rogério Theodoro de Brito wrote: Hi, Paul. (I'm CC'ing pkg-multimedia-maintainers, as there are many people there interested in handbrake---and they have done a lot to help me getting handbrake in shape in Debian). [I think you forgot to actually add the CC, doing it now.] On Feb 03 2013, Paul Gevers wrote: On 02-02-13 12:31, Rogério Theodoro de Brito wrote: The only reason why it was uploaded to experimental is that we didn't want to disrupt with Debian's freeze for the release of wheezy. Ok, understood. Does this mean that a sync request for Ubuntu is safe. Yes, it is. Just be sure to make it clear to the users (perhaps updating the package's long description) that the package does not have the two features that I cited due to sad licensing reasons. I would just ask for a SYNC, which means that the description is taken over as it is now in Debian. Don't you think the Debian users would want this warning as well, so that it warrants an update there? Yes, please file a bug so that we do not forget about that. Of course, those that only use things will curse and moan, but they don't know how it is to get these things straight. Fully ACK. I have been involved in those kind of discussions before. Just for the record, the package is with reduced functionality, due to license reasons: Understood, but as Ubuntu follows Debian if nobody put in the time to do something different, I think that is 100% acceptable. OK, great. Any kind of help is mostly appreciated, especially when talking to upstream and: This is not a package that is so trivial to make available on a distribution and I have spent many weeks trying to get it to a point where it was able to be included in Debian. I am currently working on getting an other project (openmotif) in shape for Debian. After that I might have the time to help if it is then still needed. Help is surely wanted. I am more or less stagnated with this, because I have not been able to put the necessary time to talk with upstream. Convincing them to cut a new stable release would be superb, as: 1 - They have some important features there (e.g., bob deinterlacing, a lot of work fixing subtitles etc). *and* 2 - It would make packaging significantly easier, as they are churning out new patches to third-party libraries that we already have in Debian (but not necessarity in patched form), and it would take coordination with maintainers of other packages, so that we all have compatible stuff. From handbrake's point of view, it is certainly the faster route to continue the development patching the libraries that they need (and bundle such libraries), but it is a major burden for distributions that want to have handbrake available in their repositories. More frequent releases from their part would be so much appreciated. I understand. So you are basically saying that so far Handbrake upstream has not seen much interest in being nice to distributions? Shame on them then, or is it just that they don't know but are willing to learn? My contact with upstream has been mainly with John Stebbins, who is really a very nice guy. What is lacking is mainly manpower to solve the last remaining issues. Unfortunately, the tasks are not exactly easy, and upstream prefers to take the easy route (i.e., relying on libraries with questionable licenses that are not acceptable for Debian, and btw also not for ubuntu). -- regards, Reinhard -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 Title: [needs-packaging] HandBrake To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/105458/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] HandBrake
I understand that this package is in debian, from the bottom of this page: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=456165 So when will it come to Ubuntu? ** Tags added: raring -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 Title: [needs-packaging] HandBrake To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/105458/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] HandBrake
On 02-02-13 09:19, Lonnie Lee Best wrote: I understand that this package is in debian, from the bottom of this page: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=456165 So when will it come to Ubuntu? I will investigate (the package is in experimental, not unstable), hopefully tomorrow, and if appropriate, I will file a sync request. Paul -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 Title: [needs-packaging] HandBrake To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/105458/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] HandBrake
Hi. On Feb 02 2013, Paul Gevers wrote: On 02-02-13 09:19, Lonnie Lee Best wrote: I understand that this package is in debian, from the bottom of this page: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=456165 So when will it come to Ubuntu? I will investigate (the package is in experimental, not unstable), The only reason why it was uploaded to experimental is that we didn't want to disrupt with Debian's freeze for the release of wheezy. hopefully tomorrow, and if appropriate, I will file a sync request. Just for the record, the package is with reduced functionality, due to license reasons: * No faac support (faac is non-free). * No ability to generate MP4 files, only MKV, as mp4v2 can't be mixed with the GPL. I would appreciate any help to get these fixed or worked around. Potential solutions: * Use dlopen for faac. * Use libav for generation of MP4 files. Any kind of help is mostly appreciated, especially when talking to upstream and: * pushing the lots of patches that they have accumulated to other projects. * getting newer snapshots of handbrake to be packaged. This is not a package that is so trivial to make available on a distribution and I have spent many weeks trying to get it to a point where it was able to be included in Debian. Regards, -- Rogério Brito : rbrito@{ime.usp.br,gmail.com} : GPG key 4096R/BCFC http://rb.doesntexist.org/blog : Projects : https://github.com/rbrito/ DebianQA: http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=rbrito%40ime.usp.br -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 Title: [needs-packaging] HandBrake To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/105458/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] HandBrake
On 02-02-13 12:31, Rogério Theodoro de Brito wrote: The only reason why it was uploaded to experimental is that we didn't want to disrupt with Debian's freeze for the release of wheezy. Ok, understood. Does this mean that a sync request for Ubuntu is safe. Just for the record, the package is with reduced functionality, due to license reasons: Understood, but as Ubuntu follows Debian if nobody put in the time to do something different, I think that is 100% acceptable. Any kind of help is mostly appreciated, especially when talking to upstream and: This is not a package that is so trivial to make available on a distribution and I have spent many weeks trying to get it to a point where it was able to be included in Debian. I am currently working on getting an other project (openmotif) in shape for Debian. After that I might have the time to help if it is then still needed. Paul -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 Title: [needs-packaging] HandBrake To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/105458/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] HandBrake
[2012-10-03] Accepted handbrake 0.9.8+dfsg1-1~19.gbpc8b9ba in Debian Experimental. All the good work is done by Rogério Brito Reinhard Tartler. This is an almost complete rework of the packaging included in previous iterations of handbrake. This changelog reflects only a fraction of the work that went into make it suitable for Debian and involved the work of many people. For the complete list of changes, we kindly refer you to the git repository for all the details. http://packages.qa.debian.org/h/handbrake.html Please package Ubuntu now. ** Description changed: HandBrake is an open-source, GPL-licensed, multiplatform, multithreaded video transcoder, available for MacOS X, Linux and Windows. URL: http://handbrake.fr/ License: GPL - The Debian Bug watch claims that there is a Fix Released in Debian - (i.e. it is packaged there) -- but it is not. On the contrary, they - decided not to package it for now. - - Handbrake PPA: https://edge.launchpad.net/~handbrake-ubuntu/+archive/ppa - PPA with a version working with Ubuntu Lucid/10.04: https://edge.launchpad.net/~stebbins/+archive/handbrake-snapshots + The Debian Bug watch claims that there is a Fix Released in Debian. + Accepted 0.9.8+dfsg1-1~19.gbpc8b9ba in experimental -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 Title: [needs-packaging] HandBrake To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/105458/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] HandBrake
In Git they merged 'upstream' branch to debian/0.9.8+dfsg1-1_19.gbpc8b9ba, removed ccache from build-depends, added libdvdread4 to recommends, added man pages, added dbg package fixed debian/watch. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 Title: [needs-packaging] HandBrake To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/105458/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] HandBrake
** Changed in: debian Status: New = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 Title: [needs-packaging] HandBrake To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/105458/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] HandBrake
Handbrake absolutely must be in the official repositories, or in the partner ones at least... The need to go to a PPA should not exist. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 Title: [needs-packaging] HandBrake To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/105458/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] HandBrake
** Changed in: baltix Status: New = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 Title: [needs-packaging] HandBrake To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/105458/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] HandBrake
** Also affects: baltix Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 Title: [needs-packaging] HandBrake To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/105458/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] HandBrake
** Tags removed: handbrake -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 Title: [needs-packaging] HandBrake To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/105458/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] HandBrake
@Carlos Silva: Handbrake's official PPA at https://launchpad.net/~stebbins/+archive/handbrake-releases still misses an Oneiric and Precise package. Oneiric is out for 3 months now, I wonder if that archive is inactive? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 Title: [needs-packaging] HandBrake To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/105458/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] HandBrake
@MestreLion, i think GHB devels just prefers svn versions instead stable. See root@scrat:~# apt-cache policy handbrake-gtk handbrake-gtk: Instalado: 4424svnppa1~oneiric1 Candidato: 4424svnppa1~oneiric1 Tabela de versão: *** 4424svnppa1~oneiric1 0 990 http://ppa.launchpad.net/stebbins/handbrake-snapshots/ubuntu/ oneiric/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status root@scrat:~# -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 Title: [needs-packaging] HandBrake To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/105458/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] HandBrake
Just to let everyone know, the package in stebbins ppa has versions to 11.04 too (and it works) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 Title: [needs-packaging] HandBrake To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/105458/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] HandBrake
** Changed in: debian Status: Fix Released = New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 Title: [needs-packaging] HandBrake To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/105458/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] HandBrake
Would it help that debian-multimedia already provides Handbrake packages in its repo? http://debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/h/handbrake/handbrake.php -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 Title: [needs-packaging] HandBrake -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] HandBrake
Two more comments: - there's is also a ppa repo for handbrake, but unfortunately without the GTK version and a bit dated https://launchpad.net/~handbrake-ubuntu/+archive/ppa - ogmrip is not a perfect substitute. It is OK for dealing with DVD sources, but it cannot handle simple multimedia files as inputs: one cannot use it to transcode a video file to another format/codec -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 Title: [needs-packaging] HandBrake -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] HandBrake
Sorry for so much spam. The ppa repo actually contains the GTK package, but no packages for 10.10 https://launchpad.net/~handbrake-ubuntu/+archive/ppa/+packages -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 Title: [needs-packaging] HandBrake -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] HandBrake
** Changed in: ubuntu Assignee: Adam Sunderland (iterion) = (unassigned) ** Changed in: ubuntu Status: In Progress = Confirmed -- [needs-packaging] HandBrake https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] HandBrake
ogmrip is already in universe. It performs a similar role to Handbrake. Packaging Handbrake so it does not need Internet access at build time will be significant work, and require (I suspect) some ongoing packaging maintenance to keep current (when upstream picks up a new version of some library, Ubuntu packaging needs to change to match...). Until someone with the packaging skills and time commitment to ongoing maintenance of Handbrake packages for Debian/Ubuntu steps forward, Handbrake seems to me to be unlikely to be officially packaged. It's build system is fundamentally at odds with the Debian/Ubuntu build model. -- [needs-packaging] HandBrake https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] HandBrake
** Description changed: HandBrake is an open-source, GPL-licensed, multiplatform, multithreaded video transcoder, available for MacOS X, Linux and Windows. URL: http://handbrake.fr/ License: GPL + + The Debian Bug watch claims that there is a Fix Released in Debian + (i.e. it is packaged there) -- but it is not. On the contrary, they + decided not to package it for now. + + Handbrake PPA: https://edge.launchpad.net/~handbrake-ubuntu/+archive/ppa + PPA with a version working with Ubuntu Lucid/10.04: https://edge.launchpad.net/~stebbins/+archive/handbrake-snapshots -- [needs-packaging] HandBrake https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] HandBrake
I also would like this program in the official repos. -- [needs-packaging] HandBrake https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] HandBrake
I think is a bit hard to put it on oficial repos because the package isnt allowed to get packages from internet, so a patch containing all dependencies or a patch to make handbrake detect system libraries is a must to (I think the last option isnt reliable because Handbrake apply patches to vanilla branch of ffmpeg and libavcodec to increase ipod compatibility). Anyway, im trying to find a way to make a patch to this. Corey B. escreveu: I also would like this program in the official repos. -- Leonardo Amaral - Administrador de Sistemas Linux Cerificado LPIC-2 LPI000106747 (Verificador hgwxf77vau) Tel: +55 31 8542-7467 / +55 31 4062-7411 -- Leonardo Amaral - Linux System Administrator LPI ID: LPI000106747 Level 2 certified (Verifier hgwxf77vau) Tel: +55 31 8542-7467 / +55 31 4062-7411 -- [needs-packaging] HandBrake https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] HandBrake
I just discovered this great program! I installed the package for Ubuntu 8.10 from the HandBrake website on Jaunty and so far so good! I've already converted a couple videos. I would love to see this app in the official repositories. -- [needs-packaging] HandBrake https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] HandBrake
Why it's not in the official repository for ubuntu 9.10? -- [needs-packaging] HandBrake https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] HandBrake
I updated a description, and the current and correct HandBrake Homepage URL. Thanks Savvas Radevic for your report/tip : ] ** Summary changed: - [needs-packaging] Handbrake + [needs-packaging] HandBrake ** Description changed: + HandBrake is an open-source, GPL-licensed, multiplatform, multithreaded + video transcoder, available for MacOS X, Linux and Windows. + + URL: http://handbrake.fr/ License: GPL - Homepage: http://handbrake.m0k.org/ ** Tags added: handbrake -- [needs-packaging] HandBrake https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] Handbrake
There's a process in revu: http://revu.ubuntuwire.org/p/handbrake Also a PPA: https://launchpad.net/~handbrake-ubuntu/+archive/ppa -- [needs-packaging] Handbrake https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] Handbrake
Although the bug status above for Debian says that it is fixed, there is no handbrake package in Debian. The bug was merely closed because the submitter found some other package to do the job. Quote: Yes. I found ogmrip significantly easier to use, and it also doesn't require major surgery to make it suitable for packaging. Christian Marillat already has packages of ogmrip on debian-multimedia. I no longer have any need for handbrake packages, so I'll close this RFP with this mail. If anyone else wants handbrake, they can reopen the RFP and set themselves as the submitter. -- [needs-packaging] Handbrake https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] Handbrake
** Changed in: debian Status: New = Fix Released -- [needs-packaging] Handbrake https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] Handbrake
Note that Handbrake have now released a new version, 0.9.3, which features a native GTK Linux GUI as well as Ubuntu .deb packages. The latest Handbrake should be packaged, presumably leveraging the work done for the existing official .deb packages. -- [needs-packaging] Handbrake https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] Handbrake
Hi Leonardo, cheers for the update, when I have a moment I'll put my mind to it to think about possible methods for correcting the issues. Cheers for the work you've done so far, Il -- [needs-packaging] Handbrake https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] Handbrake
Em Saturday 27 September 2008 11:10:00 Illuvator escreveu: Hi Leonardo, cheers for the update, when I have a moment I'll put my mind to it to think about possible methods for correcting the issues. Cheers for the work you've done so far, Il Its very nice have someone thinking together with me. Ubuntu-MOTUs said to me find someway to put all distfiles into the orig.tar.gz (I really dont know how to do). Ive thinked too create a uuencode file and apply in compilation time. Need to find the best suitable method. This is the cause i dont developing now (I dont found a way to solve this *WOP*). WOP = Workarround Oriented Programming :p -- Leonardo Amaral - Administrador de Sistemas Linux Tel: 31 8432-5025 / 31 4062-7411 Cerificado LPIC-1 LPI000106747 Eu gosto das cousas. As cousas sim! As pessoas atrapalham. Estão em toda parte. Multiplicam-se em excesso. As cousas são quietas. Bastam-se. Não se metem com ninguém. E não exigem nada. Apenas que não as tirem do lugar onde estão. - Mario Quintana -- [needs-packaging] Handbrake https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] Handbrake
Em Friday 26 September 2008 00:29:14 Tree MendUs escreveu: Hi Leonardo, Where is the Revu location that you sent it to? Sorry if the location thta i found was incorrect at http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=2490 This link is correct! -- Leonardo Amaral - Administrador de Sistemas Linux Tel: 31 8432-5025 / 31 4062-7411 Cerificado LPIC-1 LPI000106747 Eu gosto das cousas. As cousas sim! As pessoas atrapalham. Estão em toda parte. Multiplicam-se em excesso. As cousas são quietas. Bastam-se. Não se metem com ninguém. E não exigem nada. Apenas que não as tirem do lugar onde estão. - Mario Quintana -- [needs-packaging] Handbrake https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] Handbrake
Cheers for the pointer Tree MendUs :) Looks like there are still outstanding issues: is there still active progress being made or has this one been put on the backburner? Il -- [needs-packaging] Handbrake https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] Handbrake
Em Thursday 25 September 2008 05:34:52 Illuvator escreveu: Cheers for the pointer Tree MendUs :) Looks like there are still outstanding issues: is there still active progress being made or has this one been put on the backburner? Il The problem to package it is handbrake compiles FFMPEG and a lot of another libraries existents on Ubuntu with own patches (and big patches) and create a monolithic binary. The build process (jam) downloads EVERY package from internet, and a limitation of build machines is no internet access, so is needed a way to leave all sources it downloaded in some place, and this will require a Jamfile patch too. Its too hard to do when you get out of time. Ive sent the last package to REVU. If someone have ideas, please send it :] -- Leonardo Amaral - Administrador de Sistemas Linux Tel: 31 8432-5025 / 31 4062-7411 Cerificado LPIC-1 LPI000106747 Eu gosto das cousas. As cousas sim! As pessoas atrapalham. Estão em toda parte. Multiplicam-se em excesso. As cousas são quietas. Bastam-se. Não se metem com ninguém. E não exigem nada. Apenas que não as tirem do lugar onde estão. - Mario Quintana -- [needs-packaging] Handbrake https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] Handbrake
Hi Leonardo, Where is the Revu location that you sent it to? Sorry if the location thta i found was incorrect at http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=2490 -- [needs-packaging] Handbrake https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] Handbrake
Can you post the REVU link? Cheers, Il -- [needs-packaging] Handbrake https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] Handbrake
The Information from duplicate 269448 follows (note newer URL for the Handbrake project) Please feel freely welcome to use any/all of this info to provide more information for this program's brief. == Summary: [needs-packaging] Handbrake - DVD to MPEG-4 converter , multiplatform, multithreaded URL: http://handbrake.fr/ Description: HandBrake is a multiplatform, multithreaded DVD to MPEG-4 converter, available for MacOS X, Linux and Windows. Supported sources: * Any DVD-like source: VIDEO_TS folder, DVD image or real DVD (encrypted or unencrypted, but protection methods other than CSS are not supported and must be handled externally with third-party software), and some .VOB and .TS files * PAL or NTSC * AC-3, DTS, LPCM or MPEG audio tracks Outputs: * File format: MP4, MKV, AVI or OGM * Video: MPEG-4 or H.264 (1 or 2 passes or constant quantizer/rate encoding) * Audio: AAC, MP3, Vorbis or AC-3 pass-through (supports encoding of several audio tracks) Misc features: * Chapter selection * Basic subtitle support (burned into the picture) * Integrated bitrate calculator * Picture deinterlacing, cropping and scaling * Grayscale encoding License: GPL Notes:] Please make versions for most cpu types (e.g. i386, AMD64, and others), and currently supported Ubuntu versions. === Tags : converter dvd mpeg multiplatform needs-packaging video === Please add any of the above information you like, to this package request. This will help people have more idea about what the program is able to do. Tags are useful for searching on topics. A name that carries a small summary of the program function is more meaningful than just a program name, which may give no indication about what the program does. Screen shots available at http://handbrake.fr/?article=screenshots for example - http://handbrake.fr/site/images/screenshots/Main_Window.png -- [needs-packaging] Handbrake https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] Handbrake
I had a look around for Revu, and found the following ; http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=2490 which was referred to by http://lists.ubuntuwire.com/pipermail/motu-reviewers/2008-June/000429.html and contains the statement ; Comments for upload from May 04 05:10 (debdiff) MOTUMay 04 23:33superm1 I do appreciate an attempt being made at getting this application in, but it’s much more preferred to submit it in it’s source form (especially since it is openly available). I know it has an ugly/nonstandard build system, but that will have to be worked around. -- [needs-packaging] Handbrake https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] Handbrake
Preview package sent to REVU. -- [needs-packaging] Handbrake https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] Handbrake
Im doing it from source, as a alternative to binary package in REVU. May i upload it today or tomorrow. -- [needs-packaging] Handbrake https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] Handbrake
** Bug watch added: Debian Bug tracker #456165 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=456165 ** Also affects: debian via http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=456165 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- [needs-packaging] Handbrake https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] Handbrake
** Changed in: debian Status: Unknown = New -- [needs-packaging] Handbrake https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] Handbrake
Good work :) Il -- [needs-packaging] Handbrake https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] Handbrake
** Changed in: ubuntu Status: Confirmed = In Progress -- [needs-packaging] Handbrake https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] Handbrake
I'm working on this. First attempt works, but not gracefully as it uses wget to download libraries. I'll be removing this dependence before uploading it to REVU. Adam ** Changed in: ubuntu Assignee: MOTU (motu) = Adam Sunderland (iterion) -- [needs-packaging] Handbrake https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] Handbrake
Any new news, would be happy to do the same Il -- [needs-packaging] Handbrake https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] Handbrake
Any progress? -- [needs-packaging] Handbrake https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] Handbrake
I'm interested in learning to package for Ubuntu, would anyone be willing to help me out in packaging this? -- [needs-packaging] Handbrake https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] Handbrake
** Changed in: Ubuntu Importance: Undecided = Wishlist -- [needs-packaging] Handbrake https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105458] Re: [needs-packaging] Handbrake
** Changed in: Ubuntu Assignee: (unassigned) = MOTU Status: Unconfirmed = Confirmed -- [needs-packaging] Handbrake https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105458 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs