[Bug 105519] Re: livecd clock is (inevitably) wrong
casper isn't touching the clock at boot time. ntpdate is triggered by ifupdown which sets the clock to the right time. The timezone is going to be UTC until a location is selected in ubiquity at which point the clock will change to reflect the timezone change. I think the current behaviour is correct, though it indeed could be slightly improved by having NetworkManager parse the dhcp flag and expose that to the desktop environment somehow. ** Changed in: casper (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Won't Fix -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105519 Title: livecd clock is (inevitably) wrong To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/105519/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105519] Re: livecd clock is (inevitably) wrong
** Changed in: casper (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Triaged -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105519 Title: livecd clock is (inevitably) wrong To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/105519/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105519] Re: livecd clock is (inevitably) wrong
Instead of setting the system clock (which appears to be 436535) can the LiveCD not just read the system clock? If it's wrong once the LiveCD is booted I imagine (I'm new) that Ubuntu can be used to set it manually. (Posted a similar comment in 436535 since while not the same the solution might be). -- livecd clock is (inevitably) wrong https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105519 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105519] Re: livecd clock is (inevitably) wrong
Agree with Tormod Volden : the live CD should not modify the hardware clock. See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bug/436535 which might be a duplicate -- livecd clock is (inevitably) wrong https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105519 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105519] Re: livecd clock is (inevitably) wrong
Karmic: The life CD seems to change the hardware clock to UTC, with the side effect, that Vista has UTC after the session. And Vista doesn't even recognize (which is not the fault of Ubuntu, I know eg) IMHO it would be better to leave the time unchanged, because on a live CD session the real exact time is not THAT important. -- livecd clock is (inevitably) wrong https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105519 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105519] Re: livecd clock is (inevitably) wrong
The live CD should absolutely not touch the hardware clock, that would be a separate bug. BTW, disregard my comment 5, it turned out to be the ext3/4 journal replay issue, now solved. -- livecd clock is (inevitably) wrong https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105519 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105519] Re: livecd clock is (inevitably) wrong
There is also a problem if you mount a disk using the live CD, and then boot back into a normal installation. If you are in a UTC+something timezone, the last mounted timestamp will be in the future, and a file system check will be unnecessarily run. -- livecd clock is (inevitably) wrong https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105519 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105519] Re: livecd clock is (inevitably) wrong
** Also affects: casper (Guadalinex) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- livecd clock is (inevitably) wrong https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105519 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105519] Re: livecd clock is (inevitably) wrong
dhcp has a timezone option. I might not be widely used, but dhclient on the livecd should be configured to request timezone or location or whatever the option is. Then if the server does support it, you're all set. DHCP also supports a list of NTP servers, although that's not so necessary since Ubuntu seems to have a default for that anyway. It would be much better to use people's ISP's NTP servers, though. Many machines will have their BIOS clocks set to local time, so if you can get the difference between that and NTP time, that would be a good default for a timezone (although there are multiple timezones with the same time offset). Probably you'd have to record hwclock time, then do ntpdate, if ntpdate modifies the hwclock, too. On machines with BIOS clock = UTC, which is good if you never boot any silly OSes that don't support that, the livecd will just default to timezone = UTC, like before. -- livecd clock is (inevitably) wrong https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105519 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 105519] Re: livecd clock is (inevitably) wrong
Henrik Nilsen Omma writes ([Bug 105519] Re: livecd clock is (inevitably) wrong): One option would be to not show the clock in the Live session ... That would be an improvement, I think. Ian. -- livecd clock is (inevitably) wrong https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105519 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105519] Re: livecd clock is (inevitably) wrong
Unless we can devise some clever way for the Live CD system to figure out where you are, this will often be wrong for people with UTC system clocks, indeed. One option would be to not show the clock in the Live session ... ** Changed in: casper (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Low Status: New = Confirmed -- livecd clock is (inevitably) wrong https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105519 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105519] Re: livecd clock is (inevitably) wrong
** Tags added: iso-testing -- livecd clock is (inevitably) wrong https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105519 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 105519] Re: livecd clock is (inevitably) wrong
gnome-panel is using the system timezone ** Changed in: casper (Ubuntu) Sourcepackagename: gnome-panel = casper -- livecd clock is (inevitably) wrong https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/105519 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
