[Bug 106381] Re: Locale es_MX doesn't have t_fmt_ampm and am_pm defined
I let go, but I send the patch alone with the pending values defined ** Patch added: es_MX.patch https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/langpack-locales/+bug/106381/+attachment/4286507/+files/es_MX.patch -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/106381 Title: Locale es_MX doesn't have t_fmt_ampm and am_pm defined To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/langpack-locales/+bug/106381/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 106381] Re: Locale es_MX doesn't have t_fmt_ampm and am_pm defined
Hi Dan, Thanks for your patches. I'll be happy to help you get the am/pm thing into the Ubuntu archive, if you do the following: 1. File an upstream bug. The locale definitions in Ubuntu origin from glibc, and we don't usually modify them without at least trying to have the changes applied upstream. https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi?product=glibccomponent=localedata 2. In the upstream bug report, please provide some kind of evidence that the am/pm time format is in use in written Spanish in Mexico. It could be links to e.g. governmental sites or major news sites. (There are some old links in comment #6 above, but they are either broken or don't support 'the case'.) Bug #1288843, which is similar to this one, was fixed that way. TIA ** Changed in: langpack-locales (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Incomplete -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/106381 Title: Locale es_MX doesn't have t_fmt_ampm and am_pm defined To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/langpack-locales/+bug/106381/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 106381] Re: Locale es_MX doesn't have t_fmt_ampm and am_pm defined
I'm Mexican and I send you the patch for fix the es_MX file ** Patch added: es_MX.patch https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/langpack-locales/+bug/106381/+attachment/4285893/+files/es_MX.patch -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/106381 Title: Locale es_MX doesn't have t_fmt_ampm and am_pm defined To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/langpack-locales/+bug/106381/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 106381] Re: Locale es_MX doesn't have t_fmt_ampm and am_pm defined
The attachment es_MX.patch seems to be a patch. If it isn't, please remove the patch flag from the attachment, remove the patch tag, and if you are a member of the ~ubuntu-reviewers, unsubscribe the team. [This is an automated message performed by a Launchpad user owned by ~brian-murray, for any issues please contact him.] ** Tags added: patch -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/106381 Title: Locale es_MX doesn't have t_fmt_ampm and am_pm defined To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/langpack-locales/+bug/106381/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 106381] Re: Locale es_MX doesn't have t_fmt_ampm and am_pm defined
@Dan Jared: the patch contains unrelated changes: for example, the thousand separator is modified, but that is not related to this bug report (which only deals with defining a.m./p.m.) nor does it abide to RAE/ASALE rules, which state that the thousands separator should be a no-break space instead of a comma or a dot (see Fundéu as well). Please limit the patch to just what is being requested here. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/106381 Title: Locale es_MX doesn't have t_fmt_ampm and am_pm defined To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/langpack-locales/+bug/106381/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 106381] Re: Locale es_MX doesn't have t_fmt_ampm and am_pm defined
And es_MX use first_weekday = 1 too -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/106381 Title: Locale es_MX doesn't have t_fmt_ampm and am_pm defined To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/langpack-locales/+bug/106381/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 106381] Re: Locale es_MX doesn't have t_fmt_ampm and am_pm defined
es_MX still lacks the a.m. / p.m. And we don't use gnome-panel anymore. ** Changed in: langpack-locales (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid = Triaged ** Changed in: langpack-locales (Ubuntu) Importance: Wishlist = Medium -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/106381 Title: Locale es_MX doesn't have t_fmt_ampm and am_pm defined To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/langpack-locales/+bug/106381/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 106381] Re: Locale es_MX doesn't have t_fmt_ampm and am_pm defined
Mauricio, the bug is not in the langpack. As Martin said, this should become an option in the panel. See bug #51255 for details. (I marked this as Invalid because I can't re-set it to Won't Fix. ** Changed in: langpack-locales (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Invalid -- Locale es_MX doesn't have t_fmt_ampm and am_pm defined https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/106381 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 106381] Re: Locale es_MX doesn't have t_fmt_ampm and am_pm defined
I don't know why Spain and Mexico keep getting tied to the same locale issue. Spain uses other conventions than Mexico and other Latin American countries. They were right in filling the bug where states that they use 24 hour clock convention, and as far as I know, Chile and Ecuador use it too. As for the other Spanish speaking countries I am pretty sure they use 12 hour clock convention. I am from Mexico and can say 24 hour clock is pretty annoying, it is only used in military, political or very formal backgrounds. But for regular use the 12 hour clock is what everyone uses and should have, at least as an option!!! I couldn't agree more with Alejandro (Comment #42) about everything and how ridiculous it is for someone in the community that takes the time, wants to help and lives and has the knowledge of his own country conventions having to convince and prove Ubuntu programmers and maintainers that what he is saying is true! Anyway, for the happiness and peace of mind of the maintainers, here it goes: 1. Cinepolis (One of the largest movie theater chains in Mexico): http://www.cinepolis.com.mx/indexmx.asp 2. Mexican Government Citizens Portal: http://www.gob.mx/wb/egobierno/temas 3. El Universal (One of the most important Mexican newspapers): http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/noticias.html 4. Screen shot of certain operaiting system getting it right (By the way, they have the best localization and translations I have seen) Furthermore, what applies to all Spanish speaking countries, as stated by the Real Academia Española (Official Royal Institution responsible for regulating the Spanish language http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_Academia_Espa%C3%B1ola) is the correct abbreviation in lowercase a.m. and p.m. as opposed to English language. Again, here is the hard proof: http://buscon.rae.es/dpdI/apendices/apendice2.html http://esl.proz.com/kudoz/english_to_spanish/general_conversation_greetings_letters/2167232-am_pm_am_pm.html Mauricio ** Changed in: langpack-locales (Ubuntu) Status: Won't Fix = Confirmed -- Locale es_MX doesn't have t_fmt_ampm and am_pm defined https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/106381 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 106381] Re: Locale es_MX doesn't have t_fmt_ampm and am_pm defined
I will pull the patch from locales again, see bug 202661. This should instead become an option in the panel (using 12 hour format for the clock), see bug 51255. ** Changed in: langpack-locales (Ubuntu) Assignee: Martin Pitt (pitti) = (unassigned) Status: Fix Released = Won't Fix -- Locale es_MX doesn't have t_fmt_ampm and am_pm defined https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/106381 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 106381] Re: Locale es_MX doesn't have t_fmt_ampm and am_pm defined
24-hour format is absolutely much more used than AM/PM format in Spain. 24-hour format is the default format upstream, and so in the previous Ubuntu releases until Hardy. See bug 202611. -- Locale es_MX doesn't have t_fmt_ampm and am_pm defined https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/106381 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 106381] Re: Locale es_MX doesn't have t_fmt_ampm and am_pm defined
Sorry!, the above bug report number must say: bug 202661. -- Locale es_MX doesn't have t_fmt_ampm and am_pm defined https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/106381 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 106381] Re: Locale es_MX doesn't have t_fmt_ampm and am_pm defined
** Changed in: langpack-locales (Ubuntu) Status: New = Fix Committed ** Changed in: langpack-locales (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Wishlist Assignee: (unassigned) = Martin Pitt (pitti) -- Locale es_MX doesn't have t_fmt_ampm and am_pm defined https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/106381 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 106381] Re: Locale es_MX doesn't have t_fmt_ampm and am_pm defined
This bug was fixed in the package langpack-locales - 2.7.9-1 --- langpack-locales (2.7.9-1) hardy; urgency=low * Synchronize to locales data from glibc 2.7-9. - Now includes pl_PL_dateformat.patch, drop patch. - Fixes pt_PT monetary decimal point. (LP: #111791) - Fixes pl_PL date format. (LP: #184405) - Adds AM/PM for es_VE. (LP: #119645) * Tag our remaining patches. * Add debian/patches/en_IE-am_pm.patch: Add AM/PM definition for en_IE. (LP: #199899) * Add debian/patches/eo_US.patch: Add eo_US locale, thanks to David Mandelberg. (LP: #1918) * Add debian/patches/es-am_pm.patch: Add AM/PM defintion for es_ES (LP: #51255) and es_MX (LP: #106381) * Add debian/patches/es_CR-first-weekday.patch: Fix first weekday and workday for es_CR. (LP: #149007) * Add debian/patches/en_AU-first-weekday.patch: Fix first weekday and workday for en_AU. (LP: #192507) -- Martin Pitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:10:48 +0100 ** Changed in: langpack-locales (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released -- Locale es_MX doesn't have t_fmt_ampm and am_pm defined https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/106381 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 106381] Re: Locale es_MX doesn't have t_fmt_ampm and am_pm defined
Can someone please provide some third-party evidence that the AM/PM format is actually relevant and used in Spain? Upstream is hesitant to apply these fixes without further evidence. If possible, please answer directly to http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=5910. Thank you! -- Locale es_MX doesn't have t_fmt_ampm and am_pm defined https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/106381 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
