Re: [Bug 108057] Re: Romanian layout with ș and ț in it is not among the options in the GU I

2007-08-09 Thread secarica
On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 07:17:43 -, Mihai Capotă wrote:

 What does Yahoo mail have to do with this bug? As you said
 yourself, the encoding doesn't support cedilla characters either.

I was only trying to identify (vaguely) the target users affected by
this discussion. Yahoo users (apparently a large Romanian community)
are not affected, I mean from this point of view it does not matter
which Romanian layout becomes the default one.

Cristi

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Re: [Bug 108057] Re: Romanian layout with ș and ț in it is not among the options in the GU I

2007-08-09 Thread secarica
On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 08:00:46 -, ctomer wrote:

 How many Windows XP user will be affected by this change?  It would
 only be Romanian XP users who access content written by Romanian
 users of the very latest version of Ubuntu, right?  That's not a
 significant number of users, is it?

Today, most computer users are Windows XP users :)

In my opinion the true compatibility problem comes merely from legacy
applictions, rather than from documents exchange between users.
What is the 8 bit versus Unicode situation on Linux ? How many
applications requires Latin 2 as mandatory ? What is the workaround in
such cases ?

Other than that, I tend to agree with Jani Monoses's comment still, if
those correct characters are not getting used the situation will
persist indefinitely.

Cristi

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Re: [Bug 108057] Re: Romanian layout with ș and ț in it is not among the options in the GU I

2007-08-08 Thread secarica
On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 22:59:01 -, Mihai Capotă wrote:

 Let's not forget there's a patch from Microsoft that adds support for
 ș and ț in Windows XP.

Yes, but only for displaying ș and ț, not for generating ș and ț from
keyboard (it is basically a font update, nothing more).
Although a good thing, the update is limited to the most used fonts:
Arial and Times New Roman (for printed documents), Verdana (for web)
and Trebuchet (they said this is for MS Office, but I know that this
also solves a titlebar issue when the user selected desktop appearance
is Windows XP instead of Windows Classic).

Another problem is that the font update download *) (not the actual
install) requires genuine validation check, which I doubt it will pass
on many home users. In my opinion this will affect the reading on
web-based forums, but less the e-mail, because most home users
appears to be Yahoo mail users **). The standard Yahoo mail
interface generates broken encoding declaration anyway (it is fixed to
ISO-8859-1) and will ignore the incoming mail encoding declaration
anyway (it treates all incoming mail as ISO-8859-1), so most Yahoo mail
users will see garbage, regardless the cedila or comma story ***).

*)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=0ec6f335-c3de-44c5-a13d-a1e7cea5ddeaDisplayLang=en
**) merely my own supposition; comments on this may be required
***) this may change if their new beta interface will become widely
used, which I doubt

Cristi

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