[Bug 119318] Re: power manager insists batter is broken
Not clear whether there are still reasons to keep this bug open. Anyway we would need more details about each person's problem - so I close according to what the original reporter experiences. Don't hesitate to file new reports. ** Changed in: gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Invalid ** Changed in: gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu Gutsy) Status: Confirmed = Invalid -- power manager insists batter is broken https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/119318 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 119318] Re: power manager insists batter is broken
Please all make a distinction and open separate bug reports accordingly: - gnome-power-manager reports you battery only lasts X hours while it is much more *actually* - just an estimation problem - since Gutsy, your laptop uptime on battery is much shorter than in Feisty - power consumption problem - before Gutsy, the estimated time was bogus (based on vendor information) and now it's accurate, though sorter - no problem, just desillusion ;-) Please notice it's really normal that even new computers don't last what the advertisement says (who said vendors lie?). And if some issues are fixed now in Hardy, please let us know. For now this bug mixes about three different problems and thus is useful to nothing at all. Thanks - and BTW if you need help to work this out, just ask! -- power manager insists batter is broken https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/119318 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 119318] Re: power manager insists batter is broken
As I mentioned above, I haven't encountered any gpm problems since Hardy. I hesitate to close the bug, as some users seem to have similar issues. But as far as I'm concerned you can close it and let people file new issues for Hardy (it's kind of old for a bug, anyway). -- power manager insists batter is broken https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/119318 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 119318] Re: power manager insists batter is broken
I have this problem too. On my Lenovo/IBM ThinPad Z60m Feisty had over 4.5 hours of battery life, which I've used. After upgrading to Gutsy, it reports 2.5 hours of battery life. Gnome Power Manager and acpi (command line) agree. I note that acpi (command line) and Xfce battery monitor initially reported over four hours of battery life. Now they are giving values that agree with GPM. -- power manager insists batter is broken https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/119318 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 119318] Re: power manager insists batter is broken
Same problem here with a Toshiba Tecra, battery life is drastically shortened. -- power manager insists batter is broken https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/119318 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 119318] Re: power manager insists batter is broken
I should probably mention that this doesn't seem to happen anymore for me. However, during the last few weeks I had several computer issues, which among other things led to replacing the motherboard (twice), the hard drive and the battery, and reinstalling Gutsy from scratch (the previous one had been updated all the way from Dapper). The fact that the battery was broken — and, more interestingly, it still worked but its self-reporting didn't — may mean that was the problem. However, the symptoms I reported initially did happen right after updating to Gutsy, so there was probably a bug involved, too. With the new battery uptime seems to be close to three hours, which is quite good. That's about what I was getting when I first got the laptop, despite the fact that the new battery is smaller (5200mAh vs 6000). -- power manager insists batter is broken https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/119318 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 119318] Re: power manager insists batter is broken
Hello, I have the same problem on my laptop (Fujitsu AMILO Pi 2530) with Gutsy the battery is given for 3 hours of autonomy but it's saying 1h15 98% ; It's strange because it's a new computer... -- power manager insists batter is broken https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/119318 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 119318] Re: power manager insists batter is broken
I got the same problem as Rodrigo has. In Feisty, I got around 2h40m, with Gutsy I get around 1h40m battery life. Strange, since Gutsy was supposed to be easier on the battery than Feisty; at least that was the reason why I upgraded to Gutsy. -- power manager insists batter is broken https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/119318 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 119318] Re: power manager insists batter is broken
Since I have upgraded to Gutsy I'm getting 1h30m of battery life instead of almost 2h30h I had at Feisty. -- power manager insists batter is broken https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/119318 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 119318] Re: power manager insists batter is broken
At the live CD at least of gutsy tribe 5, I am experiencing the same. But Feisty also reported that my battery's capacity was ~= 50% of initial desing capacity from the very first time I bought this laptop (6 months ago). my cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/info present: yes design capacity: 6000 mAh last full capacity: 3712 mAh battery technology: rechargeable design voltage: 14800 mV design capacity warning: 192 mAh design capacity low: 116 mAh capacity granularity 1: 10 mAh capacity granularity 2: 25 mAh model number:Primary serial number: battery type:LION OEM info:Hewlett-Packard which if i remember correctly (I had checked it a couple of months ago), my battery is not a 6000mAh but around 3000mAh (I read it on the battery). I don't know where is the bug exactly, but I think its not gnome's... HP dv6187ea -- power manager insists batter is broken https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/119318 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 119318] Re: power manager insists batter is broken
I think it's probably an over-enthusiastic extrapolation No, it's a broken BIOS that doesn't read the battery data, but instead hardcodes some values. My X60 does the same. -- power manager insists batter is broken https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/119318 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 119318] Re: power manager insists batter is broken
the manager could simply do what it did before it had the new profiling features. Some batteries don't give out rate, or if they do, it's _wildly_ inaccurate. Seriously, sometimes it's out my an order of magnitude. -- power manager insists batter is broken https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/119318 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 119318] Re: power manager insists batter is broken
I think there are actually two sides to this bug. On the one hand, I occasionally get the warning that my battery's old or broken and only has 36-25% maximum capacity left. (Not, this is not the charge of the battery, but the maximum charge.) I don't know how it estimates it (presumably from some battery self-description), but (a) it's vastly inaccurate, as my charge couldn't have decreased that much without me noticing, and (b) it decreased by about seven percent in the two weeks since I upgraded. I didn't notice the warning in a while, but I might have pressed the don't warn me anymore button, I'm not sure. On the other hand, it's the estimation of _current_ charge that's the problem. After I upgraded to Gutsy, the new estimator became active. The problem is that it was convinced that power was critically low when the battery was at around 50% charge (and it's weird, it _told_ me I had 50% charge, but only five minutes left...) And since the computer was set to shut down on critically low power, it _could_not_ learn that the charge was enough for 40 more minutes, because it was shut down. I had to manually disable the automatic shutdown (and risk data corruption) to get it to learn it was safe to stay up until about 5% of the charge. -- power manager insists batter is broken https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/119318 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 119318] Re: power manager insists batter is broken
About your battery max capacity, I'm not really sure, but probably g-p-m gets your battery capacity from /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/info. If that's not accurate, it's probably not g-p-m's fault. About your battery current charge, you can read a little more here: http://hughsient.livejournal.com/28386.html. -- power manager insists batter is broken https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/119318 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 119318] Re: power manager insists batter is broken
About the current charge (since I can't post there, I don't have LJ): instead of bugging users, the manager could simply do what it did before it had the new profiling features. (Or, it could initialize the profile with the old one, instead of blank data.) It will then be at least as good as the old one, and it will get better while learning. (Now it can be better, but it's worse than the old one the first few charge cycles.) About the battery max capacity, this is really weird. I took a look at that /proc file, it looks quite strange (see below). The last/current charge is given as more than ten times the design capacity. I think it's probably an over-enthusiastic extrapolation (the voltage is higher than designed, and I think there's an exponential there in the calculation). Anyway, the warning is still weird. It should warn me I have too much battery capacity, not too little... (By the way, I notice it has some by design numbers for low/warning levels, they should be used to initialize the model.) $ cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/info present: yes design capacity: 5200 mAh last full capacity: 63718 mAh battery technology: rechargeable design voltage: 11100 mV design capacity warning: 520 mAh design capacity low: 157 mAh capacity granularity 1: 52 mAh capacity granularity 2: 52 mAh model number:DELL PC7646 serial number: 1660 battery type:LION OEM info:Samsung SDI $ cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state present: yes capacity state: ok charging state: charged present rate:1 mA remaining capacity: 63718 mAh present voltage: 12352 mV -- power manager insists batter is broken https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/119318 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 119318] Re: power manager insists batter is broken
Confirmed. I've experienced shutdowns because policy actions are not taken until an accurate profile is built for a battery. Old estimation should be used instead to take policy actions, until an accurate profile is built. ** Changed in: gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) Status: Unconfirmed = Confirmed -- power manager insists batter is broken https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/119318 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 119318] Re: power manager insists batter is broken
Current version affected by this bug: 2.19.3-0ubuntu2. -- power manager insists batter is broken https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/119318 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 119318] Re: power manager insists batter is broken
** Changed in: gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) Sourcepackagename: None = gnome-power-manager -- power manager insists batter is broken https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/119318 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
