[Bug 1214462] Re: Kernel Description doesn't explain its a PAE-Kernel _ since 3.4.0.1.1 _ Linus would not smile _.

2013-08-23 Thread Christopher M. Penalver
Flames_in_Paradise, thank you for reporting this and helping make Ubuntu 
better. The naming convention change has been officially documented in:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/TechnicalOverview/Alpha1#Linux_kernel_3.4

As well, this change was voted in by the Ubuntu Technical Board. For more on 
this, please see:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-May/035176.html

Please feel free to report any future bugs you may find.

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[Bug 1214462] Re: Kernel Description doesn't explain its a PAE-Kernel _ since 3.4.0.1.1 _ Linus would not smile _.

2013-08-21 Thread Flames_in_Paradise
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  _ Linus would not smile _.

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[Bug 1214462] Re: Kernel Description doesn't explain its a PAE-Kernel _ since 3.4.0.1.1 _ Linus would not smile _.

2013-08-21 Thread Flames_in_Paradise
This is probably one of the very last bugs I'm reporting to Ubuntu.
Release-Notes 12.04/12.04.1/12.04.2 get overwritten... One can only
reconstruct it via history.

AND a camouflaged PAE-Kernel ...

Wonder how the other big distros handle the farewell to the 32-Bit Non-
PAE Kernel. From Fedora I 've read they at least establish the live CD
with a non PAE-Kernel.

Can't attach log-iles since whoopsie can't handle stuff like this.

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  _ Linus would not smile _.

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[Bug 1214462] Re: Kernel Description doesn't explain its a PAE-Kernel _ since 3.4.0.1.1 _ Linus would not smile _.

2013-08-20 Thread Flames_in_Paradise
** Description changed:

  Dear Developers and maintainers,
  
  trying not to make a big fuzz about it:
  
  Let me just quote
  https://bugs.launchpad.net/baltix/+bug/930447/comments/97 from
  2012-06-05:
  
-  The non-PAE version of the Linux kernel will be dropped completely
- following the 12.04 release.
+  The non-PAE version of the Linux kernel will be dropped completely 
+  following the 12.04 release.
  
- Pls correct me and mark as invalid, if Ubuntu doesnt have to follow
- naming conventions given on Linux-Kernel.
+ Pls correct me and mark as invalid, if Ubuntu doesn't have to follow
+ naming conventions given on the Linux-Kernel.
  
  Trying to find appropiate information in the package change-log:
  
  linux-meta (3.4.0.1.1) quantal; urgency=low
  
    * Open Quantal Quetzal 12.10
    * Temporarily disable LBM
    * Remove non-PAE i386 references
  
   -- mail adress hid...@canonical.com  Wed, 02 May 2012 06:21:45 -0700
  
- Pls clarify this and correct Ubuntus Kernel-nming on i386 package if
- appropriate
+ Pls clarify this and correct Ubuntus Kernel-naming on i386 package if
+ appropriate.
  
  Personally I think Linus wouldn't smile, even though if I thought the
  index-finger to Nvidia was a bit to rough. Personally I think this bug
  has security-potential.
  
  Thanks for helping to make Ubuntu better every day.

** Description changed:

  Dear Developers and maintainers,
  
  trying not to make a big fuzz about it:
  
  Let me just quote
  https://bugs.launchpad.net/baltix/+bug/930447/comments/97 from
- 2012-06-05:
+ 2012-06-05 (referencing the release-notes on 12.04.2):
  
-  The non-PAE version of the Linux kernel will be dropped completely 
+  The non-PAE version of the Linux kernel will be dropped completely
   following the 12.04 release.
  
  Pls correct me and mark as invalid, if Ubuntu doesn't have to follow
  naming conventions given on the Linux-Kernel.
  
  Trying to find appropiate information in the package change-log:
  
  linux-meta (3.4.0.1.1) quantal; urgency=low
  
    * Open Quantal Quetzal 12.10
    * Temporarily disable LBM
    * Remove non-PAE i386 references
  
   -- mail adress hid...@canonical.com  Wed, 02 May 2012 06:21:45 -0700
  
  Pls clarify this and correct Ubuntus Kernel-naming on i386 package if
  appropriate.
  
  Personally I think Linus wouldn't smile, even though if I thought the
  index-finger to Nvidia was a bit to rough. Personally I think this bug
  has security-potential.
  
  Thanks for helping to make Ubuntu better every day.

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[Bug 1214462] Re: Kernel Description doesn't explain its a PAE-Kernel _ since 3.4.0.1.1 _ Linus would not smile _.

2013-08-20 Thread Brad Figg
** Package changed: linux-meta (Ubuntu) = linux (Ubuntu)

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[Bug 1214462] Re: Kernel Description doesn't explain its a PAE-Kernel _ since 3.4.0.1.1 _ Linus would not smile _.

2013-08-20 Thread Flames_in_Paradise
** Description changed:

  Dear Developers and maintainers,
  
  trying not to make a big fuzz about it:
  
  Let me just quote
  https://bugs.launchpad.net/baltix/+bug/930447/comments/97 from
  2012-06-05 (referencing the release-notes on 12.04.2):
  
   The non-PAE version of the Linux kernel will be dropped completely
   following the 12.04 release.
  
  Pls correct me and mark as invalid, if Ubuntu doesn't have to follow
  naming conventions given on the Linux-Kernel.
  
  Trying to find appropiate information in the package change-log:
  
  linux-meta (3.4.0.1.1) quantal; urgency=low
  
    * Open Quantal Quetzal 12.10
    * Temporarily disable LBM
    * Remove non-PAE i386 references
  
   -- mail adress hid...@canonical.com  Wed, 02 May 2012 06:21:45 -0700
  
  Pls clarify this and correct Ubuntus Kernel-naming on i386 package if
- appropriate.
+ appropriate.If the leftovers in the package are PAE, the package-names
+ are meant to say so Clear  Loud.
  
  Personally I think Linus wouldn't smile, even though if I thought the
  index-finger to Nvidia was a bit to rough. Personally I think this bug
  has security-potential.
  
  Thanks for helping to make Ubuntu better every day.

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[Bug 1214462] Re: Kernel Description doesn't explain its a PAE-Kernel _ since 3.4.0.1.1 _ Linus would not smile _.

2013-08-20 Thread Joseph Salisbury
I'm not sure I understand the description of this bug.  Can you clarify
some more?

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[Bug 1214462] Re: Kernel Description doesn't explain its a PAE-Kernel _ since 3.4.0.1.1 _ Linus would not smile _.

2013-08-20 Thread Flames_in_Paradise
This looks lunatic to me:

http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/linux-generic-pae (Transitional
package - this is a wrapper?)

http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/linux-generic (This contains the PAE-
part of the Kernel?)

Distributions find their own namings for Kernels (may be o.k. in little
variants),

but saying the PAE is the Non-PAE is strange thinking (absolutely illogical to 
me)  –  a camouflaged PAE-Kernel
)

If it's hard to understand: try it the other way around - What if: non-
PAE had been kept  PAE would have been kicked - same naming? See?

Anyway, the -i386 was actually removed from the original Linux-Kernel (I
can open new bug on this?):

 http://www.muktware.com/4967/linux-kills-
intels-386-processors#.UMiPlnKMy7J dated 12.12.12

So the newer kernels should probably rather differentiate e.g. into
i486/AMD64 than into i386/AMD64 on top.

On one old little machine Dell D600 I had no Problems installing a PAE-
Kernel, nowadays I need to change the pre-inst. script on every Kernel-
Update or install a fake-PAE upstart skript. My old anger came up upon
usage of a Live-CD of Elemntary-OS. It refused to start: Use an
appropriate Kernel, bla The Machine runs with Mainline Kernel 3.10 PAE.
This may thrift away a lot of people from Ubuntu  it's derivates.
Enough reason to finally start thinking Is it worth a bug report?
Apport can't help here.

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[Bug 1214462] Re: Kernel Description doesn't explain its a PAE-Kernel _ since 3.4.0.1.1 _ Linus would not smile _.

2013-08-20 Thread Flames_in_Paradise
Excuses, need a little  correction on last posting:

On one old little machine Dell D600 I had no Problems installing a PAE-
Kernel - in 10.04 LTS - , nowadays I need to change the pre-inst. script
on every Kernel-Update or install a fake-PAE upstart skript.

Tech Details : It's a Pentium M, that doesn' show PAE-Flag, but used to
function flawessly, even wt. the PAE Kernel. The switch to 12.04 f***ed
this up. So somethings definetly gone wrong here. Hope to have this
fixed 'til 12.04.4/14.04 LTS

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