[Bug 121574] Re: nvidia X crashes whenever applications use gl

2007-06-23 Thread Sitsofe Wheeler
oz:
Point understood (although bear in mind that if we do find a solution to the 
crashing all 3D calculations will be run on your CPU and may be extremely 
slow). It would be useful to see the left over Xorg.0.old log (assuming you 
start X again) that is left over after a crash. Speculatively punting from 
Ubuntu -> xorg.

** Changed in: xorg (Ubuntu)
Sourcepackagename: None => xorg

** Summary changed:

- nvidia X crashes whenever applications use gl
+ Open source nv X crashes whenever applications use gl

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[Bug 121574] Re: nvidia X crashes whenever applications use gl

2007-06-23 Thread oz
Mr. Wheeler:
This is not a support query for three reasons:
1. X crashes.
2. It's the configuration made by the installer.
3. I do not want closed source drivers. (except the installer 
recommends/installs them automatically.)

"3D support" would be nice, but I do not need it. However, if I start an
application requireing "3D support" but I have no "3D support", the
application should exit and tell me that it won't run without "3D
support". Instead X crashes.

I do not want to modify stuff manually, if I would want that I'd
installd debian or gentoo.

However, I would have queried support, if I wanted to have the problem
only solved for me. Instead I want it solved for everyone. Thats the
spirit, right?

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[Bug 121574] Re: nvidia X crashes whenever applications use gl

2007-06-23 Thread oz
This is my xorg.conf it is like the installer made it. I did not modify
it and I do not want to modify it manually.

** Attachment added: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8173093/xorg.conf

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[Bug 121574] Re: nvidia X crashes whenever applications use gl

2007-06-23 Thread Sitsofe Wheeler
oz:
This is actually more of a support query than a bug report ("How do I get 3D 
going on my NVIDIA graphics card under Ubuntu?") and may have been better asked 
on one of the areas listed on http://www.ubuntu.com/support/communitysupport . 
You did not say what version of Ubuntu you were running (however I from the log 
posted I can deduce that it is probably Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty). If you are using 
7.04, the short answer is to take a look at 
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia .

The long answer is that you are using the open source nv driver and the
open source driver for NVIDIA cards does not have any 3D support. This
is because NVIDIA have not released specifications on how the 3D (or
dual head for that matter) portion of their cards works and nor will
they in the future (see http://www.abclinuxu.cz/clanky/rozhovory/andy-
ritger-nvidia?page=1 ). There is a reverse engineering effort called
Nouveau (http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/FrontPage ) that is
attempting to rectify this but the project is in its infancy. The closed
source NVIDIA binary driver DOES have accelerated 3D support and other
features not available in the open source nv driver but is not installed
"out of the box". https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverEducation talks a
bit about the pros and cons of binary drivers.

At any rate, does following the instructions on
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia rectify the
problem?

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[Bug 121574] Re: nvidia X crashes whenever applications use gl

2007-06-22 Thread leoquant
ps and there is no nvidia driver installed

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[Bug 121574] Re: nvidia X crashes whenever applications use gl

2007-06-22 Thread leoquant
you have no direct rendering. please post here your xorg.conf file.

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[Bug 121574] Re: nvidia X crashes whenever applications use gl

2007-06-22 Thread oz

** Attachment added: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log (before crash, while running)"
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8166610/Xorg.0.log

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[Bug 121574] Re: nvidia X crashes whenever applications use gl

2007-06-22 Thread oz
There was no output from "dpkg -l nvidia-glx* | grep ii":
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -l nvidia-glx* | grep ii
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

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[Bug 121574] Re: nvidia X crashes whenever applications use gl

2007-06-22 Thread oz

** Attachment added: "output of glxinfo"
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8166559/glxinfo

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[Bug 121574] Re: nvidia X crashes whenever applications use gl

2007-06-21 Thread Sitsofe Wheeler
oz:
Please post the output of
dpkg -l nvidia-glx* | grep ii
and can you use the launchpad web interface to attach the file
/var/log/Xorg.0.log
to this bug report?

** Changed in: Ubuntu
   Status: New => Incomplete

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[Bug 121574] Re: nvidia X crashes whenever applications use gl

2007-06-21 Thread leoquant
what driver is installed? the legacy? do you have direct rendering? post 
glxinfo in een file.
could you post your xorg.conf please?

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