[Bug 123713] Re: package description needs rewrite [ubufox]

2010-08-11 Thread Vish
Took 3yrs to get this one done ;-)

** Changed in: hundredpapercuts
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[Bug 123713] Re: package description needs rewrite [ubufox]

2010-08-10 Thread Benjamin Drung
** Changed in: ubufox (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: Alexander Sack (asac) = (unassigned)

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[Bug 123713] Re: package description needs rewrite [ubufox]

2010-08-10 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package ubufox - 0.9~rc2-0ubuntu3

---
ubufox (0.9~rc2-0ubuntu3) maverick; urgency=low

  [ K. Vishnoo Charan Reddy ]
  * debian/control: Improve description (LP: #123713).

  [ Benjamin Drung ]
  * Rename the binary package to xul-ext-ubufox.
  * Drop Vcs-Bzr field. It's maintained in lp:ubuntu/ubufox now.
  * Bump Standards-Version to 3.9.1 (no changes required).
  * Switch from debhelper 5 to 7.
 -- Benjamin Drung bdr...@ubuntu.com   Wed, 11 Aug 2010 01:03:53 +0200

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[Bug 123713] Re: package description needs rewrite [ubufox]

2010-08-05 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:~vish/ubuntu/maverick/ubufox/bug123713

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[Bug 123713] Re: package description needs rewrite [ubufox]

2010-08-05 Thread Vish
** Changed in: hundredpapercuts
   Status: Triaged = In Progress

** Changed in: hundredpapercuts
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Vish (vish)

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[Bug 123713] Re: package description needs rewrite

2010-08-01 Thread Vish
We missed Ubuntu 7.10-rc a long back . removing milestone ;)

@Luke Faraone, could you update your branch with mpt's suggestion
[comment #30]?


** Also affects: hundredpapercuts
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Summary changed:

- package description needs rewrite
+ package description needs rewrite [ubufox]

** Tags added: metadata

** Changed in: ubufox (Ubuntu)
Milestone: ubuntu-7.10-rc = None

** Changed in: hundredpapercuts
   Importance: Undecided = Low

** Changed in: hundredpapercuts
   Status: New = Triaged

** Changed in: hundredpapercuts
Milestone: None = maverick-round-9-sc-metadata

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[Bug 123713] Re: package description needs rewrite

2010-05-18 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
That's much better, kecsap, thank you. You could discard a few words
from the start, something like this: Alters Firefox so that it searches
the Ubuntu software catalog when looking for plug-ins; includes Ubuntu
items in the Help menu; uses Ubuntu’s start page… etc.

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[Bug 123713] Re: package description needs rewrite

2010-03-19 Thread Luke Faraone
** Branch linked: lp:~lfaraone/ubufox/lp123713

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[Bug 123713] Re: package description needs rewrite

2010-03-05 Thread kecsap
I modified the package description as follows, feel free to comment it:

Package: ubufox
Architecture: all
Depends: firefox | abrowser | firefox-3.0 | firefox-2, apturl (= 0.1.2ubuntu1) 
| apturl-kde
Description: Ubuntu Firefox specific changes and apt support
 A package for Firefox which modifies the following things: Searching missing 
plugins
 from ubuntu package repositories; Help menu/new items: report problems,
 get help on-line and help translating firefox; Ubuntu version of the start 
page;
 Restart notification after upgrading Firefox; Help menu/Release notes points
 to Ubuntu release notes; Add ask.com to the search engines.
 .
 You can uninstall this package if you prefer to use a pristine firefox
 install.


** Patch added: new_description.patch
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/40241262/new_description.patch

** Tags added: patch

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[Bug 123713] Re: package description needs rewrite

2010-02-25 Thread John Vivirito
tz:
What you are referring to is not the same as this bug. This bug is about typo 
in package description, please file a new bug on that bug or comment on the bug 
already posted for that issue

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Re: [Bug 123713] Re: package description needs rewrite

2010-02-25 Thread Loye Young
@John Vivirito,
TZ and Kecsap are on the right track. This bug is not about typos. This bug
is about the substance of the description.

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[Bug 123713] Re: package description needs rewrite

2010-02-21 Thread kecsap
Probably meaningful to consider the comment from bug 83 what I have
been marked as duplicate of this bug:

What are various modifiications? Oh, here they are:

https://answers.launchpad.net/ubufox/+question/12077;

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[Bug 123713] Re: package description needs rewrite

2010-02-21 Thread kecsap
Comments from the bug 503782 marked as duplicate of this bug:

Question thread about these issues:

https://answers.launchpad.net/ubufox/+question/84439

and

For example, it appears to have some link into package management for plugins. 
Something like
When a missing plugin is detected, it runs ??? to try to install a package for 
the missing plugin.

A bullet list for each added feature with that level of detail would be
sufficient.

If it does something with fonts, what does it change or add (from the
base)?

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[Bug 123713] Re: package description needs rewrite

2010-02-21 Thread tz
Thanks kecsap for taking this up.

Just for security and consistency, I like to know what changes in
Firefox for anything I install (and I have lots of extensions).  But
extensions and plugins can conflict or do strange things.

There is no real hurry, but something should be in the next release.
The more detail the better, but something which was very brief but a
fairly complete list would be better than the current nothing.

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[Bug 123713] Re: package description needs rewrite

2009-04-06 Thread John Vivirito
Something like stated in

https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubufox/+bug/123713/comments/15

We are pretty much unble to get less general since ubufox has default settings 
that we ship and there are way too many..
 It already states that:

Description: Ubuntu Firefox specific configuration defaults and apt support
 Extension package for Firefox provides ubuntu specific configuration defaults
 as well as apt support for firefox plugins/extensions.

That tells users that it is used to add extensions as well as has configurable 
settings. We are unable to list all settings but it allows you to change 
settings in the advanced setting page about:config But as to explain exactly 
what it does and what can be changed is not really able to happen since there 
are too many settings that can be changed.
Now if you mean that the Description is not user friendly than i can understand

What did you mean by the following from comment 15 link above:

2. apt support for firefox plugins / extensions is meaningless to
someone who doesn't already know what ubufox does. It is also a bit
misleading because apturl requires gnome-app-install and synaptic. Users
of adept, dpkg-www, aptitude, or other apt frontends will not receive
apt support.

As for the above. It is not possible at this point to install firefox without 
GTK apps/libs since there is not yet a qt version. This is being worked on 
upstream but i think they came to a point they had to stop. Once QT support is 
added than we can redo the depends on it to use QT apps/libs
and ubufox is installed with firefox | abrowser | firefox-3.0 | firefox-2
I have also changed the browsers a bit remove 2.0 and added a few other 
versions. as well as updated it to work with 3.5 3.6 and such. This is only in 
my PPA at this time but i will most likely merge what i have to the main branch.

So to have a complete description of what you would like it to be We are flying 
blind on it, If you can give me a reasonible way of how deep you want to go 
with the description than maybe we can come to a compromise but just saying 
what does this mean and what does that mean is a bit too open, Examples above 
about not being able to list everything it does is not really reasonible  since 
it allows you to change Ubuntu config options instead of us having to ship with 
all/none enabled. 
The word unhelpful doesn't really tell us anything except a few people didnt 
understand it. It tells you you can remove it if you want the firefox we ship 
without the configure changes that we made using ubufox to please most people

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Re: [Bug 123713] Re: package description needs rewrite

2009-04-06 Thread Loye Young
Point me to something, anything, that documents what ubufox does and I'll be
happy to write a description.

it allows you to change settings in the advanced setting page
about:config
Firefox already allows changing settings in about:config, without ubufox.
The question is what changes are made by ubufox.

We are pretty much unable to get less general since ubufox has default
settings that we ship and there are way too many
Saying that the package does too much to document is pretty lame, IMHO.
Rather, it's even more important to document them.

It is not possible at this point to install firefox without GTK apps/libs
since there is not yet a qt version.
No one is suggesting to install firefox without GTK, and trying to write it
in QT is silly. In fact, the problem isn't firefox at all.

The description says that it's adding apt support, but that description is
misleading. The problem is the additional GNOME dependencies that apturl
drags in. What's really going on is that ubufox depends on a GNOME graphical
interface to the apt protocol. There are three alternative tacks to take.
(1) If ubufox and apturl don't do anything that is specific to GNOME, drop
the dependency on the GNOME packages in apturl; (2) Change apturl to a
Recommends dependency rather than a Depends (which probably makes sense in
any event); and (3) (germane to this bug report) Provide a more accurate
description of what the apturl dependency does. E.g., ubufox also depends
on apturl, which is a GNOME graphical interface to the apt protocol allowing
installation of software using a URL of the software repository.


Again, if ubufox were documented somewhere, the community could help.


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[Bug 123713] Re: package description needs rewrite

2009-04-03 Thread John Vivirito
Can someone please give a detailed description of what they would like
to see what they do see and how they see it. There is way too many
reports on this bug that are not the same. screenshot of what you see is
also a good idea.

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Re: [Bug 123713] Re: package description needs rewrite

2009-04-03 Thread Loye Young
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 7:53 AM, John Vivirito gnomefr...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Can someone please give a detailed description of what they would like
 to see what they do see and how they see it.


If you want to see what the current package description looks like, type the
following from a command line:

# aptitude show ubufox

The Hardy LTS release shows this:

Description: Ubuntu Firefox specific configuration defaults and apt support
 Extension package for Firefox provides ubuntu specific configuration
defaults
 as well as apt support for firefox plugins/extensions.
 You can uninstall this package if you prefer to use a pristine firefox
install.

Unfortunately, because the package is undocumented, there is no way to tell
you what should be in the description. I can tell you that the current
description is completely unhelpful about what ubuntu specific
configuration defaults means.

In addition, reading the original report of this bug would give you some
idea of what is desired.

Happy Trails,


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Re: [Bug 123713] Re: package description needs rewrite

2009-04-03 Thread Loye Young
John,

For more guidance on this bug, you might also take a look at my comments
here:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubufox/+bug/123713/comments/15.

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[Bug 123713] Re: package description needs rewrite

2009-04-02 Thread John Vivirito
GRaphael:
Mozilla has nothing to do with Ubufox that is Ubuntu's code. Alexander is the 
one that's maintains it.

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[Bug 123713] Re: package description needs rewrite

2009-04-01 Thread GRaphael
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=486187

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[Bug 123713] Re: package description needs rewrite

2008-04-25 Thread Loye Young
The description still doesn't describe what ubufox does. You've said it
changes firefox configuration, but that's no help. I've been asked about
this package, but I don't have a good explanation for what the package
does or whether the package is needed or not, because it is not
documented at all (which is another bug that needs reporting).

1.   After reading the description, the user is left with no idea about
what specific configuration defaults are being changed. As one user
remarked, If they know what the 'specifics' are, why don't they just
tell us?

2.   apt support for firefox plugins / extensions is meaningless to
someone who doesn't already know what ubufox does. It is also a bit
misleading because apturl requires gnome-app-install and synaptic. Users
of adept, dpkg-www, aptitude, or other apt frontends will not receive
apt support.

3.  It is ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT to note in the description that ubufox
depends on GNOME (via the dependency on apturl). The phrase ubuntu
specific is not sufficiently descriptive because ubuntu is an
ambiguous term: sometimes it means the GNOME desktop, and sometimes it
means the superset distribution of all the *buntu flavors.

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[Bug 123713] Re: package description needs rewrite

2008-04-25 Thread Loye Young
Not fixed

** Changed in: ubufox (Ubuntu)
   Status: Fix Released = Confirmed

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[Bug 123713] Re: package description needs rewrite

2008-03-22 Thread VF
Seems good to me in Hardy now

** Changed in: ubufox (Ubuntu)
   Status: In Progress = Fix Released

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[Bug 123713] Re: package description needs rewrite

2007-10-08 Thread Alexander Sack
** Changed in: ubufox (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: Mozilla Bugs (mozilla-bugs) = Alexander Sack (asac)

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[Bug 123713] Re: package description needs rewrite

2007-10-08 Thread Alexander Sack
** Changed in: ubufox (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed = In Progress

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[Bug 123713] Re: package description needs rewrite

2007-10-08 Thread Alexander Sack
OK, is this ok:

Package: ubufox
Architecture: all
Depends: firefox, apturl
Description: Ubuntu Firefox specific configuration defaults and apt support
 Extension package for Firefox provides ubuntu specific configuration defaults
 as well as apt support for firefox plugins/extensions.
 .
 You can uninstall this package if you prefer to use a pristine firefox
 install.


and in addons dialog:

em:nameUbuntu Firefox Modifications/em:name
em:descriptionUbuntu configuration defaults and apt support for firefox 
extensions/plugins./em:description

if nobody complains, I will upload this.

Thanks,
 - Alexander

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[Bug 123713] Re: package description needs rewrite

2007-10-06 Thread Jan Claeys
As someone asked before: Would it be possible to list what those
changes are?

I think the most important changes (those that significantly influence
people's browsing experience) should be listed in the package
description.

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[Bug 123713] Re: package description needs rewrite

2007-10-06 Thread VF
Even something like This package installs an extension which integrates
Firefox's extension and plugin managers with Ubuntu's package system.
would be good

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[Bug 123713] Re: package description needs rewrite

2007-10-03 Thread Colin Watson
Moving milestone forward. Alexander? We can't change the package name so
close to 7.10, but at least the description fixes are trivial.

** Changed in: ubufox (Ubuntu)
   Target: ubuntu-7.10-beta = ubuntu-7.10-rc

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[Bug 123713] Re: package description needs rewrite

2007-07-30 Thread Alexander Sack
In addons dialog it reads for me:

ubufox
Ubuntu Firefox Extension

... isn't that descriptive enough?

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[Bug 123713] Re: package description needs rewrite

2007-07-30 Thread Mario Vukelic
I dunno, it seems there is a pretty consistent naming convention for packages 
that contain ubuntu specifics:
'aptitude search ubuntu' gives:
...
edubuntu-addon-kde
edubuntu-addon-legacy
edubuntu-addon-light
edubuntu-addon-science
...
kubuntu-artwork-kbfx
kubuntu-artwork-usplash
kubuntu-default-settings
kubuntu-desktop
kubuntu-docs
kubuntu-grub-splashimages
kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts
kubuntu-restricted-extras
linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-7-...
...
ubuntu-artwork
ubuntu-calendar
ubuntu-calendar-december
ubuntu-calendar-february
ubuntu-calendar-january
ubuntu-calendar-march
ubuntu-calendar-november
ubuntu-calendar-october
ubuntu-desktop
ubuntu-docs
ubuntu-keyring
ubuntu-laptop-mode
ubuntu-minimal
ubuntu-mobile
...

You get the picture. What's to gain by breaking this pattern?

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[Bug 123713] Re: package description needs rewrite

2007-07-30 Thread VF
Well, I mean, it would be nice if it read

Ubuntu Firefox Extension
Adds [whatever ubufox adds].

So users could actually know what it does from the description, like
other extensions seem to work.

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Re: [Bug 123713] Re: package description needs rewrite

2007-07-29 Thread Alexander Sack
On Sun, Jul 15, 2007 at 09:38:14AM -, VF wrote:
 Yes, also seeing it named 'ubufox' in the Firefox Add-ons window is sort
 of surprising, sounds unpolished
 

Well, the name of this package is not open for discussion here. This
is about package description.

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[Bug 123713] Re: package description needs rewrite

2007-07-29 Thread VF
'Not open for discussion'? Well, I was just making a quick comment of
what I personally thought to a related thing (The description in the
add-on of firefox as opposed to the deb's description)

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[Bug 123713] Re: package description needs rewrite

2007-07-29 Thread VF
I mean, I don't care if the package is named ubufox, but it should be
described as something more descriptive than 'ubufox' in the firefox
add-ons window (like gnome-app-install's application title isn't 'gnome-
app-install')

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[Bug 123713] Re: package description needs rewrite

2007-07-29 Thread Mario Vukelic
Well, a bad package name and a bad package description have the same
result, confused users, so i don't know why one would be open for
discussion but not the other. Seems irrational to me.

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[Bug 123713] Re: package description needs rewrite

2007-07-15 Thread VF
Yes, also seeing it named 'ubufox' in the Firefox Add-ons window is sort
of surprising, sounds unpolished

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[Bug 123713] Re: package description needs rewrite

2007-07-04 Thread William Grant
** Changed in: ubufox (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = Low

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[Bug 123713] Re: package description needs rewrite

2007-07-03 Thread Mario Vukelic
Would it be possible to list what those changes are?

Also, would you consider to change the package name? Ubufox IMHO
needlessly obfuscates the package's purpose and make it hard to find in
the package manager. Maybe firefox-adjustments-ubuntu or some such,
analogous to the themes package?

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