[Bug 1243267] Re: Backlight brightness control doesn't work

2013-11-02 Thread Christopher M. Penalver
** Tags removed: acpi backlight lenovo t430 thinkpad
** Tags added: needs-kernel-logs needs-upstream-testing regression-potential

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[Bug 1243267] Re: Backlight brightness control doesn't work

2013-10-22 Thread Seth Forshee
Björn: We also have reports that this patch fixes the backlight on the
T430 (bug #1183856). Possibly Lenovo is making machines that look the
same to the kernel but behave differently.

Please also provide the following information.

Grab a copy of your acpi tables by running acpidump  acpi-tables.txt
and attach acpi-tables.txt here.

Also grab a copy of your dmi information by running dmidecode 
dmi.txt and attach dmi.txt here.

Then, please do the following twice, once with an Ubuntu kernel where
your backlight works and once with one where it doesn't.

1. Capture dmesg output and attach it here.

2. Provide the output from ls /sys/class/backlight.

3. For each of the directories in /sys/class/backlight, run cat
max_brightness to find the maximum brightness value supported. Then try
writing a few values between 1 and max_brightness to the brightness
file, e.g. echo 10 | sudo tee brightness. Working backlights should
change brightness each time you write a new value to brightness. Let me
know which backlights work and which do not.

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[Bug 1243267] Re: Backlight brightness control doesn't work

2013-10-22 Thread Joseph Salisbury
** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = Medium

** Tags added: saucy

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[Bug 1243267] Re: Backlight brightness control doesn't work

2013-10-22 Thread Björn Cassens
Hi, here are all files you wanted in a tar.gz file format. Every output
is marked, when the files have been generated (backlight_ok or
backlight_NOT_ok). One maybe important fact is, that if i write in to
/etc/classes/.../brightness nothing happens, the file actual_brightness
shows the written value. But if I'm using xcfe4-power-manager and using
the Fn keys it seems to be working and the value in the file
actual_brightness changes as well. When i reach the highes possible
brightness, the file actual_brightness does not show 100 (which is the
max brightness when i'm using the kernel, where the brightness control
seems to be working) instead of this it shows only the number 6. The
same behavior applies to the not working version of the kernel.

** Attachment added: acpi-tables.txt
   
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1243267/+attachment/3887574/+files/acpi-tables.txt

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[Bug 1243267] Re: Backlight brightness control doesn't work

2013-10-22 Thread Björn Cassens
I'm sorry i have choosen a wrong file.

** Attachment added: dmesg, acpi-table, dmi, etc. logs
   
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1243267/+attachment/3887575/+files/logs.tar.gz

** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete = Confirmed

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[Bug 1243267] Re: Backlight brightness control doesn't work

2013-10-22 Thread Seth Forshee
One more thing. Can you supply the output of running cat
/sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/device/firmware_node/path for both
kernels?

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[Bug 1243267] Re: Backlight brightness control doesn't work

2013-10-22 Thread Björn Cassens
Here you are... but both files are equal
The naming convention is in this tar.gz the same as the provided files before.

** Attachment added: path_backlight.tar.gz
   
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[Bug 1243267] Re: Backlight brightness control doesn't work

2013-10-22 Thread Seth Forshee
The firmware has lots of strange complexities, but as far as I can tell
the acpi_video0 backlight interface should fundamentally work no better,
or possibly worse, when the patch is reverted. It would be instructive
if you could verify this by trying to adjust the brightness using some
mechanism other than the hotkeys, e.g. a brightness slider in the UI or
something like that.

In that case your backlight would probably be getting changed directly
by the firmware rather than by the operating system, and it could be
that this commit is responsible for the differing behaviors:

http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-
saucy.git;a=commitdiff;h=efaa14c7e981bdf8d3c8d39d3ed12bdc60faabb8

If reverting this commit fixes your backlight when the other commit is
present then we'll know that's what is happening.

What this likely boils down to is that the ACPI backlight is broken in
weird ways, and Lenovo and/or their firmware supplier never bothered to
test it because they aren't using it in Windows. There's nothing in the
DMI data that I see which will allow us to distinguish between the
T430's for which the quirk works and those for which it does not. If you
were using the nouveau driver for your graphics you might have an
alternate backlight interface which worked, but the nvidia driver isn't
providing one.

What you can do as a workaround is to modify your setup to pass the
option acpi_osi=Windows 2012 to the kernel when booting, which ought
to override the quirk. I can't tell you how this would be done for your
distribution however.

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