[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2022-01-08 Thread Andrew Yakovlev
I have a keyboard a4tech KV-300h and the bug reproduce on windows too. I have 
already tried to replace to another a new keyboard. The problem isn't gone.
I found out if I use embedded USB port of keyboard to connect a mouse then the 
problem reproduce very often.
Also I tested my keyboard on macbook pro. There is everything works fine. 

System:
  Host: adrug-X470-AORUS-ULTRA-GAMING Kernel: 5.13.0-23-generic x86_64 
  bits: 64 compiler: N/A Desktop: Cinnamon 5.0.7 Distro: Linux Mint 20.2 Uma 
  base: Ubuntu 20.04 focal 
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Gigabyte product: X470 AORUS ULTRA GAMING v: N/A 
  serial: N/A 
  Mobo: Gigabyte model: X470 AORUS ULTRA GAMING-CF v: x.x serial: N/A 
  UEFI: American Megatrends LLC. v: F61 date: 07/13/2021 
CPU:
  Topology: 6-Core model: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen 
  L2 cache: 3072 KiB 
  flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm 
  bogomips: 86394 
  Speed: 2200 MHz min/max: 2200/3600 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2200 2: 2189 
  3: 2199 4: 2200 5: 2199 6: 2199 7: 2199 8: 2200 9: 2249 10: 2198 11: 2200 
  12: 2199 
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD vendor: Gigabyte driver: amdgpu v: kernel bus ID: 0c:00.0 
  Display: server: X.Org 1.20.13 driver: amdgpu,ati 
  unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,radeon,vesa resolution: 2560x1080~60Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: AMD Radeon RX 6600 XT (DIMGREY_CAVEFISH DRM 3.41.0 
  5.13.0-23-generic LLVM 12.0.1) 
  v: 4.6 Mesa 21.3.0-devel direct render: Yes

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2019-07-03 Thread Serge Stroobandt
It is notable to see so much Fujitsu Siemens hardware affected.
I have the same issue with the onboard USB 2.0 of a Fujitsu Siemens P710 E90+ 
Intel i5 3470 desktop computer.

The problem occurs with any of my Varmilo VA88M keyboards, but not with
a Cherry Cymotion G-224. The Varmilo keyboards work perfectly fine on
any other desktop computer I tested but which happened to be not of the
Fujitsu brand.

However, only on the Fujitsu Siemens P710, both Varmilo keyboards would
very often, but not always, stuck and repeat key combinations like
Ctrl+C. This never happened in combination with the Cherry keyboard. So
it seems, reproducibility of this issue depends on both the computer and
the keyboard hardware.

Fed up with this behaviour, I recently installed a NEC USB 2.0 card in
its single conventional PCI slot. The problem never reoccurred over the
span of two weeks now.

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2019-01-27 Thread vak
The bug is still here in Ubuntu 18.04.1 on Lenovo IdeaPad Yoga 13 
(last available BIOS for my model is installed)

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2019-01-07 Thread Felipe Butcher
wow! see this was opened in 2007. just googled this from the future (i
am in 2018) and found this.

using ubuntu 18. found that what was causing it in my case was a
clipboard manager i use here. closing the clipboard manager stopped the
bleeding.

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2018-04-06 Thread Mehmet Soyturk
I'm sorry for flooding this thread, but I have more experience to share.

After another reboot in "clocksource=jiffies" mode, I saw that 1 OS
second passes in real 0.5 seconds. But the rest of the system was pretty
stable. Keyboard auto-repeat was twice as fast, but did not get
triggered inadvertently.

I did another reboot in "clocksource=jiffies" mode and opened the online clock 
application. Initially the clock speed seemed normal. After 20-30 seconds it 
became twice as fast.
Then from the console, I started an application with an infinite loop therein. 
That made the clock seconds turn very very fast. Probably CPU speed has 
influence here.

Good news is that when I changed the boot option to "clocksource=tsc", I
got stable results even after a few reboots. Seconds seem to pass as
fast as they should be.

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2018-04-06 Thread Mehmet Soyturk
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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2018-04-06 Thread Mehmet Soyturk
I'm not sure whether it gives any information, but here is some output
from journalctl, where the bug happens (no "clocksource=jiffies" boot
option is used):

$ journalctl -k | grep clocksource

clocksource: refined-jiffies: mask: 0x max_cycles: 0x, 
max_idle_ns: 7645519600211568 ns
clocksource: jiffies: mask: 0x max_cycles: 0x, max_idle_ns: 
764504178510 ns
clocksource: Switched to clocksource refined-jiffies
clocksource: tsc: mask: 0x max_cycles: 0x2879c5f06f2, 
max_idle_ns: 440795220049 ns
clocksource: Switched to clocksource tsc
clocksource: timekeeping watchdog on CPU0: Marking clocksource 'tsc' as 
unstable because the skew is too large:
clocksource:   'refined-jiffies' wd_now: fffedcd0 wd_last: 
fffedc58 mask: 
clocksource:   'tsc' cs_now: 13ccf176fe cs_last: 13299ba17d 
mask: 
kernel: tsc: Marking TSC unstable due to clocksource watchdog
kernel: clocksource: Switched to clocksource refined-jiffies

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2018-04-06 Thread Mehmet Soyturk
(Note: I intentionally don't fix repeated characters
cccassee by that issue in my message below)


I'm affected by   ttthhhee sssame issue.

Initially I have installed Ubuntu 16.04.4 LTS. While installing it, I
had to add the boot parameter "acpi=off" in grub settings (both for
the installer anddfor booting of the installed OS). Otherwise, I got
a freeze on boot.

aafter installation, I got this probleee. But next to issues
with repeated keys, I got temporary freezes in firefox. I see that
sometimes the caret is applicaatioons flickers too fast (and
that is when I get repeated characters). And other strange issues.

I opened a clock application in https://www.online-stopwatch.com/online-
clock/ and I saw that the speed offf  the "seconds" needle is not
regular, and it sometimes moves backward  bbb  10 to 15
seconds. There is really something wrong with system time.

Then I have upgraded to Ubuntu 17.10, but it was the same (but I got
additional issues because of the upgrade :( ).

And the solution was the one from comment #356 from this thread (
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/124406/comments/356
), which adds a "clocksource=jiffies" boot option.

I'm not done yet. Now I have a hang on Ubuntu shutdown (
https://askubuntu.com/questions/764568/ubuntu-16-04-hangs-on-shutdown-
restart ), and the suggested solution there is ... forcing acpi in boot
options :(

I have no idea whether this issue is related my acpi issues.

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2014-11-30 Thread Abhirav Kumar
I have a lead may be
Given scenario I have my keyboard stuck (i.e. I can't do andything with my 
keyboard)
I suspend my laptop using mouse and voilà my keyboard is working again
Hope this helps!!!

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2014-07-07 Thread Vyacheslav
in my situation - keyboard imitated of clicking '1', '2', '3' etc. even if I 
didn't work on keyboard and mouse for 30 min to several hours. The symbols that 
were stucked (imitated) didn't repet the symbols I manually typed before. The 
bug appeared more often when RealVNC server or TeamViewer server worked (and I 
typed symbols and moved mouse remotely - and VNC server or TeamViewer server 
received this symbols and mouse movements). Every time then bug began - it 
repeated from 1 to some hundreds of same symbols - and I every time can stop 
the bug by pressing any key phisically in keyboard or remotely via VNC server 
or TeamViewer server (but after such a stopping the bug - it could be begin 
again after period from 0.5 seconds to some hours).
THE PROBLEM SOLVED in my situation by phisically removing the USB device called 
'SkypeMate' (USB-B2K model) (this device connects Skype software on desktop via 
USB with wire connected to standard office phone device to make calls via it).

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2014-07-07 Thread Vyacheslav
thank you all for help! as I already understood - in this topic users reports 
about DIFFERENT bugs (but the same sympthoms) - if you are lazy to read this 
topic above:
1) if your dmesg log contains USB errors ('reset low speed USB device' or 
other) - try to physically unplug USB devices (mayby onboard keyboards in 
notebooks seen as like USB devices in some situations?) or re-plug to ANOTHER 
USB controller; try to use USB keyboard (another keyboard); try to disable 
legacy USB support in BIOS. This is kernel problem.
2) if your dmesg log contains non-USB errors ('Unknown key released' or 
something else) - 
try to change the BIOS setting 'Plug and play OS' to it's default state ('No');
try to disable WiFi adapter;
try to disable OpenGl in KDE, Gnome, ...   ;
try to set atkbd.softrepeat=1 parameter to the kernel boot parameters in Grub;
try to unload the battery, AC and thermal modules of kernel after booting;
try to set acpi=off parameter to the kernel boot parameters in Grub;
try to disable legacy USB support in BIOS;
try to execute xset r rate 1000 50 command;
try to set in BIOS do not check if PCI-express videocard not installed search 
for PCI video card, if not - try to initialize internal video card - instead of 
it set BIOS to initialize your existing video card first;
try to disable auto-repeat keys in keyboard in KDE or Gnome settings;
try to switch to another kernel;
try to execute xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.us-101 each time the bug 
occurs;
try to set highres=off nohz=off noapm parameters to the kernel boot parameters 
in Grub;
try to remove gnome-sensors-applet , lm_sensors , net-snmp-libs , hplip , hpijs 
, net-snmp packages or packages with same functionality;
try to edit /etc/mkinitcpio.conf and remove the word 'keyboard' from line 
HOOKS=... ;
try to remove gnome-accessibility-themes , gnome-accessibility-themes-extras 
accessibility packages or packages with same functionality;
try to remove hotkeys-setup package or package with same functionality;
try to report at bugs.launchpad.net and ubuntuforums.org about this bug 
(include your list of hardware (lspci command) and Linux version (uname -a 
command) and dmesg log)
This is a kernel problem also.
useful links (are already listed above in this thread):
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9147
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9448
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/39315
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12021

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2014-07-04 Thread Vyacheslav
also found this bug after installing (at the middle of June 2014) fresh copy of 
ubuntu-14.04-beta2-server-amd64.iso AND NOTHING ELSE! (no KDE, Gnome etc.) 
predominantly arbitrarily keys presses digit '1', digit '2', digit '3', left 
and right arrows and Enter. My Ubuntu is installed at sda7 of hard disk, sda1 
is partition for Win XP (then I boot in Windows, no any bugs with keyboard!), 
grub installed into sda Master Block Record), I selected Russian language 
before installin server, and updates are downloading during install, software 
sources enabled: main, universe, restricted, multiverse, download server is 
Main server (not local for Russian Federation), other software sources: 
Canonical partners, Canonical partners (source code), Independent, Independent 
(source code), Important security updates, Recommended updates, Pre-released 
updates, Unsupported updates, Release upgrade: long term support releases only.
my configuration is Asus P5G41T-M LX motherboard (northbridge Intel G41, 
southbridge Intel ICH7) with Pentium Dual-core CPU E5700 @ 3.00 GHz, 4 Gb 
dual-channel memory. Removing the keyboard physically from PS/2 socket does not 
solve the problem.
Also I installed fresh copy of ubuntu-14.04-beta2-server-amd64.iso and selected 
English and also found this bug (after KDE (kubuntu-desktop package) installed 
or before I install KDE, I don't remember), also found this bug after 
installing fresh copy of ubuntu-12.04.4-server-amd64.iso (with Russian 
selected) and kubuntu-desktop package (I am not sure if this bug will not 
appear after installing fresh copy of ubuntu-12.04.4-server-amd64.iso without 
KDE), but in 12.04.4 this bug appears more rarely then in 14.04. This bug 
appears more often when I use RealVNC or TeamViewer and remotely control my 
computer (in KDE enviromnent).

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2014-06-06 Thread Vyacheslav
also found this bug (keyboard imitates of pressing '1', '2', '3' and Enter) 
after installing of fresh copy of ubuntu 14.04 stable x64 server and when 
installing xorg and kubuntu-desktop meta package
also found this bug after installing of fresh copy of ubuntu 12.04.4 stable x64 
server and when installing xorg and kubuntu-desktop meta package, but more 
rarely when in 14.04
my keyboard is physically well (dual-booting into Windows on this machine shows 
no problems), this bug exists if I change the keyboard to another.
If I reboot the computer and never click a button on keyboard (but work with it 
through RealVNC server and viewer - press any buttons on keyboard at other 
computer and VNC viewer sends it to server) - the bug appears again
The bug also appears sometimes after some hoгs of user inactivity (VNC viewers 
also disconnected for some hours)

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2014-05-14 Thread new4u
Dear developers, maybe a information that helps localize the error: It
is intermittent, and obviously related to a very few packages. The last
days, it did not occur, and now since I updated (from 13th to 14th of
May 2014) from the sources trusty-security, -updates, -proposed and
-backports, the error appears twice an hour. Maybe you could have a look
at these packages, as they seem to influence the behaviour.

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2014-05-02 Thread new4u
Dear all, just wanted to add: Also in 14.04 64bit the error is present,
multiple times a day.

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2014-03-22 Thread new4u
Update for 14.04 beta 64 bit: The same error still also in this
version... I think this error, which really impedes productivity, will
be turning me away from Ubuntu. :(

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2013-10-20 Thread Hồng Quân
Another workaround for me is to login to text console (not graphical UI)
and remove all settings in home folder.

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2013-10-18 Thread Hồng Quân
Yes, me too, Ubuntu 13.10 :'(

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2013-10-11 Thread Artyom Kazak
I’ve never experienced this problem on 13.04, but strangely enough, it
happens very often to me with 13.10. Laptop’s keyboard works fine, but
Bluetooth one stutters every now and then.

** Tags added: saucy

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2013-09-10 Thread Peter M
Just chiming in to say that this bug affects me too. Asus K55n laptop
with Ubuntu 13.04. It randomly acts like sticky keys are enabled. A
minute ago I hit ctrl and it acted as if I was holding ctrl until I
logged out. Extremely annoying!

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2013-08-12 Thread Rizwan
I feel the same as new4u, I have been having this keyboard problem and
its really irritating. I use ubuntu as my main development machine. I
left the mac cause I loved working on this, but with this problem, I
guess I will go back. I have an i5 Asus machine running Ubuntu 13.04. I
have upgraded my Kernel to run 3.9.0 but the problem persists.

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2013-06-07 Thread new4u
Dear developers, I really would like to stress this issue. Only tonight
I had to reboot my machine 3 times due to this issue. It is a MAJOR
impediment in working. The key-stucks happened in gedit, and Gummi
tonight. So it seems not attached to a specific application.

Despite I am not able to develop or program, I see myself as a kind of
evangelist, who converted a lot of people to Ubuntu. But, honestly, it
is a problem for continue recommending it of having basics such as a
keyboard causing problems. I have never seen this on any other
distribution.

So, please, please have a look at this issue, as I guess that many
people might use Asus and Ubuntu 64bit (as it combination seems to
correlate somehow).

Thank you for your time making Ubuntu that great - that also needs to be
said.

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2013-04-24 Thread Mahdi
I feel the same as new4u, I have the problem in 13.04 beta more than
ever, even after I disabled key press repeat in Prefrences - Keyboard,
I have this problem.

I used `xset r off` right now, gonna see if key repeat occurs or not.

P.S: Sorry for my bad English.

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2013-04-18 Thread new4u
In 13.04 (beta) 64bit it occurs more frequently again than I noticed it
in 12.10. This last time it even occured in a Win7-guest in Virtualbox.

Almost same hardware as before, just graphics  soundcard changed.

My Hardware:
Asus P7P55D
Intel i5 750
8GB RAM
ATI HD 7850
SATA-HDDs
USB-Logitech Mouse
PS/2 Fujitsu Siemens Keyboard
Xonard STX Soundcard
Pinnacle PCI TV Card

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2013-02-24 Thread Daniel J Blueman
I've been observing this happen once a week across a wide range of x86
systems with USB keyboards in the last (5?) years.

Since I've observed it in the virtual terminal and have never observed
this with PS/2 keyboards, I suspect there is an event race condition in
the USB input stack, eg a missing write barrier.

When I increase system latency, it looks like there's more chance of it
happening, so this feels like MMIO write ordering causing a lost key up
event.

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2013-02-22 Thread Chris Wilson
** No longer affects: hundredpapercuts

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2013-02-22 Thread essl
Hmmm... Just noticed that I don't have it anymore...

Dell XPS 17
openSuSE 12.2
Linux xps 3.4.11-2.16-desktop #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Sep 26 17:05:00 UTC 2012 
(259fc87) x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
KDE Platform Version 4.8.5 (4.8.5) release 2
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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2013-02-10 Thread new4u
It is still in 12.10. :(

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2012-04-14 Thread Marius Kotsbak
** Tags added: oneiric precise

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2012-02-22 Thread Cinquero
Ubuntu Precise yesterday showed similar symptoms: numlock LED was
insanely blinking, at times no keyboard input was possible on two of
three connected keyboards, and additionally, the mouse cursor was being
dragged down.

Maybe this is related to:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/935912
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46281

??

** Bug watch added: freedesktop.org Bugzilla #46281
   https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46281

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-12-16 Thread Wojciech Musial
I also experienced the exact symptoms of the bug, combined with a bunch
of other problems (sound crackling, system freezes).

This workaround fixed it all together for me (ubuntu 10.04, 2.6.32-36-generic):
http://jannepikkarainen.fi/clocksourcejiffies-ja-ubuntu-910-hidastumiset-pois

Quote:
---
 in /etc/default/grub change line

GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=quiet splash

to be

GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=quiet splash clocksource=jiffies

Then enter sudo update-grub and reboot. See if your problems are gone.
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Unfortunately that triggered another bug: hd-audio0 eats up 20% of my
cpu, but that's another story.

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-12-15 Thread Moritz Winter
Im still experiencing this in 11.10 and removing gnome-applet-sensors or
the unity counterpart (see comment #151) works for me.

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-12-15 Thread Moritz Winter
^^ Sorry, its comment #157

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-09-14 Thread parq
@Marius,
I'm gueesing about a motherboard issue. I'm going to change it an try.

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-08-15 Thread new4u
To me, this happens as well, using Lucid Lynx 64 bit. Even if the
PS/2-keyboard is unplugged, the key which decided to get stuck keeps
repeating.

What I would like to point out:

It only happens when tpying in forms displayed of Firefox (so NOT during
any other application of Ubuntu), and then there on certain forms: when
trying to write an email in Outlook 2010 webmail, or when writing a
comment on the launchpad page, the key repeating error almost
reroducably happens.(This is why I needed to write this mail in Gedit
and copy it conscutively  into launchpad).

On the contrary, it does e.g. not happen in GMail - so maybe there is an
interference between some applications and firefox and Ubuntu.

Despite I turned off the repetition in the preferences - Keyboard
settings - General - Repeat keystrokes when being pressed, the
keyboard keeps stuck in the Firefox forms as mentioned above.

My Hardware:

Asus P7P55D 
Intel i5 750
8GB RAM
ATI HD 4600
SATA-HDDs
USB-Logitech Mouse
PS/2 Fujitsu Siemens Keyboard
Xonard D2X Soundcard
Pinnacle PCI TV Card

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Re: [Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-07-26 Thread Marcus Haslam
I'm out of the office until 1st August.

On 12 May 2011, at 11:23, Bryce Harrington 124...@bugs.launchpad.net  
wrote:

 As I mentioned earlier, this was on the agenda for the xserver  
 wishlist
 bugs session at UDS, and was discussed yesterday.  From reviewing the
 current status of the bug here and upstream, there seems to be a
 legitimate issue in general, however the general fix for this (e.g.
 Ajax's branch) are not things we would want to risk pulling in as a
 backport, nor something of high enough importance for the ubuntu x  
 team
 to invest time into, so for these reasons we're closing the issue as a
 wontfix at this time.

 However, we are concerned about the cases where specific hardware is
 significantly broken (as several have described in recent comments).
 But these issues are difficult to analyze and work on within the  
 context
 of this particular bug report.  For users with issues that need deeper
 investigation, please file a NEW bug using this command:

  $ ubuntu-bug xorg

 It would be helpful if you can reference bug 124406, and include the
 word 'keyboard' in the title so it gets autofiled predictably.


 ** Changed in: xorg-server (Ubuntu)
   Status: Triaged = Won't Fix

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 Status in The Linux Kernel:
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 Status in X.Org X server:
  In Progress
 Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu:
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 Status in “linux” source package in Jaunty:
  Won't Fix
 Status in “xorg-server” source package in Jaunty:
  Invalid
 Status in Gentoo Linux:
  New

 Bug description:
  Keyboard keys such as the arrows, Alt-F4, PageUp/PageDown, etc. often
  get 'stuck' and continue being 'clicked' even after they are
  physically released. For example when clicking Alt-F4, sometimes it
  gets stuck so all the windows are closed instead of just one.

  My configuration is Feisty + Xgl + Compiz Fusion. My previous
  configuration was Edgy + Xgl + Beryl, where this didn't happen.  
 Others
  have reported the same problem without using either Xgl or Compiz.

  The keyboard itself isn't the problem. When dual-booting to Windows,
  everything works fine. Also, the problem happens with two different
  keyboards (internal laptop, external USB).

  My best guess is that the problem occurs at time of high system load.
  Somehow during these times the key-release signal gets lost and the
  key-press is repeated indefinitely. This happens more often with
  Compiz configurations because Compiz tends to increase system load.  
 It
  also happens more often with power-hungry apps like Firefox and
  Acrobat Reader for similar reasons.

  PS: When the keys would repeat all input devices would be locked up.
  ie. mouse won't move, clicks don't do anything, keyboard presses  
 don't
  register. Then when it becomes unstuck, the mouse moves around and
  everything. Hope this helps.

  See also this forum thread for other people with the same problem:
  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=432057

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Re: [Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-07-26 Thread Marcus Haslam
I'm out of the office until 1st August.

On 11 May 2011, at 17:30, Bryce Harrington 124...@bugs.launchpad.net  
wrote:

 @James, aha, as I suspected.  Thanks for checking that.  Those
 interested in seeing development towards a fix for this issue can  
 focus
 on that branch.

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 Status in The Linux Kernel:
  Confirmed
 Status in X.Org X server:
  In Progress
 Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu:
  Won't Fix
 Status in “xorg-server” package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged
 Status in “linux” source package in Jaunty:
  Won't Fix
 Status in “xorg-server” source package in Jaunty:
  Invalid
 Status in Gentoo Linux:
  New

 Bug description:
  Keyboard keys such as the arrows, Alt-F4, PageUp/PageDown, etc. often
  get 'stuck' and continue being 'clicked' even after they are
  physically released. For example when clicking Alt-F4, sometimes it
  gets stuck so all the windows are closed instead of just one.

  My configuration is Feisty + Xgl + Compiz Fusion. My previous
  configuration was Edgy + Xgl + Beryl, where this didn't happen.  
 Others
  have reported the same problem without using either Xgl or Compiz.

  The keyboard itself isn't the problem. When dual-booting to Windows,
  everything works fine. Also, the problem happens with two different
  keyboards (internal laptop, external USB).

  My best guess is that the problem occurs at time of high system load.
  Somehow during these times the key-release signal gets lost and the
  key-press is repeated indefinitely. This happens more often with
  Compiz configurations because Compiz tends to increase system load.  
 It
  also happens more often with power-hungry apps like Firefox and
  Acrobat Reader for similar reasons.

  PS: When the keys would repeat all input devices would be locked up.
  ie. mouse won't move, clicks don't do anything, keyboard presses  
 don't
  register. Then when it becomes unstuck, the mouse moves around and
  everything. Hope this helps.

  See also this forum thread for other people with the same problem:
  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=432057

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Re: [Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-07-26 Thread Marcus Haslam
I'm out of the office until 1st August.

On 7 May 2011, at 14:51, Marius Kotsbak 124...@bugs.launchpad.net  
wrote:

 Bug #770680 has an interesting patch. Not sure if that solves more  
 than
 problems with volume keys.

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  Invalid
 Status in The Linux Kernel:
  Confirmed
 Status in X.Org X server:
  In Progress
 Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu:
  Won't Fix
 Status in “xorg-server” package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged
 Status in “linux” source package in Jaunty:
  Won't Fix
 Status in “xorg-server” source package in Jaunty:
  Invalid
 Status in Gentoo Linux:
  New

 Bug description:
  Keyboard keys such as the arrows, Alt-F4, PageUp/PageDown, etc. often
  get 'stuck' and continue being 'clicked' even after they are
  physically released. For example when clicking Alt-F4, sometimes it
  gets stuck so all the windows are closed instead of just one.

  My configuration is Feisty + Xgl + Compiz Fusion. My previous
  configuration was Edgy + Xgl + Beryl, where this didn't happen.  
 Others
  have reported the same problem without using either Xgl or Compiz.

  The keyboard itself isn't the problem. When dual-booting to Windows,
  everything works fine. Also, the problem happens with two different
  keyboards (internal laptop, external USB).

  My best guess is that the problem occurs at time of high system load.
  Somehow during these times the key-release signal gets lost and the
  key-press is repeated indefinitely. This happens more often with
  Compiz configurations because Compiz tends to increase system load.  
 It
  also happens more often with power-hungry apps like Firefox and
  Acrobat Reader for similar reasons.

  PS: When the keys would repeat all input devices would be locked up.
  ie. mouse won't move, clicks don't do anything, keyboard presses  
 don't
  register. Then when it becomes unstuck, the mouse moves around and
  everything. Hope this helps.

  See also this forum thread for other people with the same problem:
  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=432057

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Re: [Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-07-26 Thread Marcus Haslam
I'm out of the office until 1st August.

On 20 May 2011, at 16:48, james_mcl 124...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:

 Thanks Bryce,

 I did end up replacing the laptop, and it will be a little while  
 before
 I have access to the affected machine again (it now resides in the  
 attic
 at my parents' house!); however I'll be sure to file a bug report as
 soon as I get there.

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 Status in X.Org X server:
  In Progress
 Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu:
  Won't Fix
 Status in “xorg-server” package in Ubuntu:
  Won't Fix
 Status in “linux” source package in Jaunty:
  Won't Fix
 Status in “xorg-server” source package in Jaunty:
  Invalid
 Status in Gentoo Linux:
  New

 Bug description:
  Keyboard keys such as the arrows, Alt-F4, PageUp/PageDown, etc. often
  get 'stuck' and continue being 'clicked' even after they are
  physically released. For example when clicking Alt-F4, sometimes it
  gets stuck so all the windows are closed instead of just one.

  My configuration is Feisty + Xgl + Compiz Fusion. My previous
  configuration was Edgy + Xgl + Beryl, where this didn't happen.  
 Others
  have reported the same problem without using either Xgl or Compiz.

  The keyboard itself isn't the problem. When dual-booting to Windows,
  everything works fine. Also, the problem happens with two different
  keyboards (internal laptop, external USB).

  My best guess is that the problem occurs at time of high system load.
  Somehow during these times the key-release signal gets lost and the
  key-press is repeated indefinitely. This happens more often with
  Compiz configurations because Compiz tends to increase system load.  
 It
  also happens more often with power-hungry apps like Firefox and
  Acrobat Reader for similar reasons.

  PS: When the keys would repeat all input devices would be locked up.
  ie. mouse won't move, clicks don't do anything, keyboard presses  
 don't
  register. Then when it becomes unstuck, the mouse moves around and
  everything. Hope this helps.

  See also this forum thread for other people with the same problem:
  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=432057

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Re: [Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-07-26 Thread Marcus Haslam
I'm out of the office until 1st August.

On 11 May 2011, at 15:44, Bryce Harrington 124...@bugs.launchpad.net  
wrote:

 ** Changed in: xorg-server (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Bryce Harrington (bryce)

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 Status in GNU Emacs:
  Invalid
 Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts:
  Invalid
 Status in The Linux Kernel:
  Confirmed
 Status in X.Org X server:
  In Progress
 Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu:
  Won't Fix
 Status in “xorg-server” package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged
 Status in “linux” source package in Jaunty:
  Won't Fix
 Status in “xorg-server” source package in Jaunty:
  Invalid
 Status in Gentoo Linux:
  New

 Bug description:
  Keyboard keys such as the arrows, Alt-F4, PageUp/PageDown, etc. often
  get 'stuck' and continue being 'clicked' even after they are
  physically released. For example when clicking Alt-F4, sometimes it
  gets stuck so all the windows are closed instead of just one.

  My configuration is Feisty + Xgl + Compiz Fusion. My previous
  configuration was Edgy + Xgl + Beryl, where this didn't happen.  
 Others
  have reported the same problem without using either Xgl or Compiz.

  The keyboard itself isn't the problem. When dual-booting to Windows,
  everything works fine. Also, the problem happens with two different
  keyboards (internal laptop, external USB).

  My best guess is that the problem occurs at time of high system load.
  Somehow during these times the key-release signal gets lost and the
  key-press is repeated indefinitely. This happens more often with
  Compiz configurations because Compiz tends to increase system load.  
 It
  also happens more often with power-hungry apps like Firefox and
  Acrobat Reader for similar reasons.

  PS: When the keys would repeat all input devices would be locked up.
  ie. mouse won't move, clicks don't do anything, keyboard presses  
 don't
  register. Then when it becomes unstuck, the mouse moves around and
  everything. Hope this helps.

  See also this forum thread for other people with the same problem:
  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=432057

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Re: [Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-07-26 Thread Marcus Haslam
I'm out of the office until 1st August.

On 28 Apr 2011, at 13:50, Marius Kotsbak 124...@bugs.launchpad.net  
wrote:

 Japp, that is the same I see, but the freedesktop describe it as you
 need to restart X server to stop it. And some see the bug using USB
 keyboard too, but for me only with the integrated keyboard. And for  
 some
 the problem is a regression. Which makes me beleve our problem is  
 caused
 by the AT keyboard driver in the kernel.

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 Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts:
  New
 Status in The Linux Kernel:
  Confirmed
 Status in X.Org X server:
  In Progress
 Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu:
  Won't Fix
 Status in “xorg-server” package in Ubuntu:
  Incomplete
 Status in “linux” source package in Jaunty:
  Won't Fix
 Status in “xorg-server” source package in Jaunty:
  Invalid
 Status in Gentoo Linux:
  New

 Bug description:
  Keyboard keys such as the arrows, Alt-F4, PageUp/PageDown, etc. often
  get 'stuck' and continue being 'clicked' even after they are
  physically released. For example when clicking Alt-F4, sometimes it
  gets stuck so all the windows are closed instead of just one.

  My configuration is Feisty + Xgl + Compiz Fusion. My previous
  configuration was Edgy + Xgl + Beryl, where this didn't happen.  
 Others
  have reported the same problem without using either Xgl or Compiz.

  The keyboard itself isn't the problem. When dual-booting to Windows,
  everything works fine. Also, the problem happens with two different
  keyboards (internal laptop, external USB).

  My best guess is that the problem occurs at time of high system load.
  Somehow during these times the key-release signal gets lost and the
  key-press is repeated indefinitely. This happens more often with
  Compiz configurations because Compiz tends to increase system load.  
 It
  also happens more often with power-hungry apps like Firefox and
  Acrobat Reader for similar reasons.

  PS: When the keys would repeat all input devices would be locked up.
  ie. mouse won't move, clicks don't do anything, keyboard presses  
 don't
  register. Then when it becomes unstuck, the mouse moves around and
  everything. Hope this helps.

  See also this forum thread for other people with the same problem:
  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=432057

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Re: [Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-07-26 Thread Marcus Haslam
I'm out of the office until 1st August.

On 28 Apr 2011, at 12:35, james_mcl 124...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:

 This is a two-part reply to Bryce Harrington's comment #294.

 1.) I really have to take issue with your statement that it's a minor
 annoyance (rather than an X lockup or crash). When the key that gets
 stuck is Delete, for instance, this has the potential to wipe out
 entire directories, and the consequences when the key in question is
 Enter are utterly unpredictable. Furthermore, for instances of the bug
 when subsequent key presses/releases are ignored and the key remains
 stuck, the result - a reboot and loss of unsaved data - is preceisely
 what would occur if X locked up or crashed.

 2.) You ask people to file *new* bugs and be very specific about the
 issue (with exact steps to reproduce, up to date logs, etc.). Would  
 it
 be sufficient to run

 ubuntu-bug xorg

 referencing bug 124406, and then

 apport-collect (number of new bug)

 or is there any more information you would need that would not be
 supplied by this? (if so, please specify what this would be.)

 Thanks,

 James McLaughlin.

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 Status in GNU Emacs:
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 Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts:
  New
 Status in The Linux Kernel:
  Confirmed
 Status in X.Org X server:
  In Progress
 Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu:
  Won't Fix
 Status in “xorg-server” package in Ubuntu:
  Incomplete
 Status in “linux” source package in Jaunty:
  Won't Fix
 Status in “xorg-server” source package in Jaunty:
  Invalid
 Status in Gentoo Linux:
  New

 Bug description:
  Keyboard keys such as the arrows, Alt-F4, PageUp/PageDown, etc. often
  get 'stuck' and continue being 'clicked' even after they are
  physically released. For example when clicking Alt-F4, sometimes it
  gets stuck so all the windows are closed instead of just one.

  My configuration is Feisty + Xgl + Compiz Fusion. My previous
  configuration was Edgy + Xgl + Beryl, where this didn't happen.  
 Others
  have reported the same problem without using either Xgl or Compiz.

  The keyboard itself isn't the problem. When dual-booting to Windows,
  everything works fine. Also, the problem happens with two different
  keyboards (internal laptop, external USB).

  My best guess is that the problem occurs at time of high system load.
  Somehow during these times the key-release signal gets lost and the
  key-press is repeated indefinitely. This happens more often with
  Compiz configurations because Compiz tends to increase system load.  
 It
  also happens more often with power-hungry apps like Firefox and
  Acrobat Reader for similar reasons.

  PS: When the keys would repeat all input devices would be locked up.
  ie. mouse won't move, clicks don't do anything, keyboard presses  
 don't
  register. Then when it becomes unstuck, the mouse moves around and
  everything. Hope this helps.

  See also this forum thread for other people with the same problem:
  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=432057

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Re: [Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-07-26 Thread Marcus Haslam
I'm out of the office until 1st August.

On 28 Apr 2011, at 13:07, Marius Kotsbak 124...@bugs.launchpad.net  
wrote:

 I guess the problem is that there are more than one symptoms contained
 in this bug and probably more than one bug in possibly xorg and the
 kernel. The best would probably be to have one bug open for each, but
 getting users to respect that is problably hard and maybe we don't  
 even
 know.

 Anyway I want to get this solved. First I want to know if it is a  
 kernel
 or xorg bug for me and then try to ask the right people/mailinglists  
 for
 advices. Digging at the kernel code, I suspect it might be caused by  
 the
 interrupt handler for the keyboard to take too long to finish and  
 while
 it works no new key releases can be handled.

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 Status in GNU Emacs:
  Invalid
 Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts:
  New
 Status in The Linux Kernel:
  Confirmed
 Status in X.Org X server:
  In Progress
 Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu:
  Won't Fix
 Status in “xorg-server” package in Ubuntu:
  Incomplete
 Status in “linux” source package in Jaunty:
  Won't Fix
 Status in “xorg-server” source package in Jaunty:
  Invalid
 Status in Gentoo Linux:
  New

 Bug description:
  Keyboard keys such as the arrows, Alt-F4, PageUp/PageDown, etc. often
  get 'stuck' and continue being 'clicked' even after they are
  physically released. For example when clicking Alt-F4, sometimes it
  gets stuck so all the windows are closed instead of just one.

  My configuration is Feisty + Xgl + Compiz Fusion. My previous
  configuration was Edgy + Xgl + Beryl, where this didn't happen.  
 Others
  have reported the same problem without using either Xgl or Compiz.

  The keyboard itself isn't the problem. When dual-booting to Windows,
  everything works fine. Also, the problem happens with two different
  keyboards (internal laptop, external USB).

  My best guess is that the problem occurs at time of high system load.
  Somehow during these times the key-release signal gets lost and the
  key-press is repeated indefinitely. This happens more often with
  Compiz configurations because Compiz tends to increase system load.  
 It
  also happens more often with power-hungry apps like Firefox and
  Acrobat Reader for similar reasons.

  PS: When the keys would repeat all input devices would be locked up.
  ie. mouse won't move, clicks don't do anything, keyboard presses  
 don't
  register. Then when it becomes unstuck, the mouse moves around and
  everything. Hope this helps.

  See also this forum thread for other people with the same problem:
  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=432057

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Re: [Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-07-26 Thread Marcus Haslam
I'm out of the office until 1st August.

On 30 Apr 2011, at 10:30, james_mcl 124...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:

 Well, I've just been in touch with Ajax.

 I asked if he knew about any experimental thread-based branches:

 There's http://cgit.freedesktop.org/~ajax/xserver/log/?h=input-thread-v3 
  , which I haven't touched
 in months. It's assuredly broken if you poke it hard enough.

 I also asked if Wayland would also be using the same signals-based
 architecture that had caused all this:

 Wayland doesn't have any SIGIO code.

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 Status in GNU Emacs:
  Invalid
 Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts:
  Invalid
 Status in The Linux Kernel:
  Confirmed
 Status in X.Org X server:
  In Progress
 Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu:
  Won't Fix
 Status in “xorg-server” package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged
 Status in “linux” source package in Jaunty:
  Won't Fix
 Status in “xorg-server” source package in Jaunty:
  Invalid
 Status in Gentoo Linux:
  New

 Bug description:
  Keyboard keys such as the arrows, Alt-F4, PageUp/PageDown, etc. often
  get 'stuck' and continue being 'clicked' even after they are
  physically released. For example when clicking Alt-F4, sometimes it
  gets stuck so all the windows are closed instead of just one.

  My configuration is Feisty + Xgl + Compiz Fusion. My previous
  configuration was Edgy + Xgl + Beryl, where this didn't happen.  
 Others
  have reported the same problem without using either Xgl or Compiz.

  The keyboard itself isn't the problem. When dual-booting to Windows,
  everything works fine. Also, the problem happens with two different
  keyboards (internal laptop, external USB).

  My best guess is that the problem occurs at time of high system load.
  Somehow during these times the key-release signal gets lost and the
  key-press is repeated indefinitely. This happens more often with
  Compiz configurations because Compiz tends to increase system load.  
 It
  also happens more often with power-hungry apps like Firefox and
  Acrobat Reader for similar reasons.

  PS: When the keys would repeat all input devices would be locked up.
  ie. mouse won't move, clicks don't do anything, keyboard presses  
 don't
  register. Then when it becomes unstuck, the mouse moves around and
  everything. Hope this helps.

  See also this forum thread for other people with the same problem:
  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=432057

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Re: [Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-07-26 Thread Marcus Haslam
I'm out of the office until 1st August.

On 23 Apr 2011, at 19:52, Marius Kotsbak 124...@bugs.launchpad.net  
wrote:

 ** Also affects: hundredpapercuts
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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 Status in GNU Emacs:
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 Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts:
  New
 Status in The Linux Kernel:
  Confirmed
 Status in X.Org X server:
  In Progress
 Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu:
  Won't Fix
 Status in “xorg-server” package in Ubuntu:
  Incomplete
 Status in “linux” source package in Jaunty:
  Won't Fix
 Status in “xorg-server” source package in Jaunty:
  Invalid
 Status in Gentoo Linux:
  New

 Bug description:
  Keyboard keys such as the arrows, Alt-F4, PageUp/PageDown, etc. often
  get 'stuck' and continue being 'clicked' even after they are
  physically released. For example when clicking Alt-F4, sometimes it
  gets stuck so all the windows are closed instead of just one.

  My configuration is Feisty + Xgl + Compiz Fusion. My previous
  configuration was Edgy + Xgl + Beryl, where this didn't happen.  
 Others
  have reported the same problem without using either Xgl or Compiz.

  The keyboard itself isn't the problem. When dual-booting to Windows,
  everything works fine. Also, the problem happens with two different
  keyboards (internal laptop, external USB).

  My best guess is that the problem occurs at time of high system load.
  Somehow during these times the key-release signal gets lost and the
  key-press is repeated indefinitely. This happens more often with
  Compiz configurations because Compiz tends to increase system load.  
 It
  also happens more often with power-hungry apps like Firefox and
  Acrobat Reader for similar reasons.

  PS: When the keys would repeat all input devices would be locked up.
  ie. mouse won't move, clicks don't do anything, keyboard presses  
 don't
  register. Then when it becomes unstuck, the mouse moves around and
  everything. Hope this helps.

  See also this forum thread for other people with the same problem:
  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=432057

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Re: [Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-07-26 Thread Marcus Haslam
I'm out of the office until 1st August.

On 29 Apr 2011, at 14:11, Marius Kotsbak 124...@bugs.launchpad.net  
wrote:

 james_mcl: find/open a separate bug for your particular hardware then.

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 Status in GNU Emacs:
  Invalid
 Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts:
  Invalid
 Status in The Linux Kernel:
  Confirmed
 Status in X.Org X server:
  In Progress
 Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu:
  Won't Fix
 Status in “xorg-server” package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged
 Status in “linux” source package in Jaunty:
  Won't Fix
 Status in “xorg-server” source package in Jaunty:
  Invalid
 Status in Gentoo Linux:
  New

 Bug description:
  Keyboard keys such as the arrows, Alt-F4, PageUp/PageDown, etc. often
  get 'stuck' and continue being 'clicked' even after they are
  physically released. For example when clicking Alt-F4, sometimes it
  gets stuck so all the windows are closed instead of just one.

  My configuration is Feisty + Xgl + Compiz Fusion. My previous
  configuration was Edgy + Xgl + Beryl, where this didn't happen.  
 Others
  have reported the same problem without using either Xgl or Compiz.

  The keyboard itself isn't the problem. When dual-booting to Windows,
  everything works fine. Also, the problem happens with two different
  keyboards (internal laptop, external USB).

  My best guess is that the problem occurs at time of high system load.
  Somehow during these times the key-release signal gets lost and the
  key-press is repeated indefinitely. This happens more often with
  Compiz configurations because Compiz tends to increase system load.  
 It
  also happens more often with power-hungry apps like Firefox and
  Acrobat Reader for similar reasons.

  PS: When the keys would repeat all input devices would be locked up.
  ie. mouse won't move, clicks don't do anything, keyboard presses  
 don't
  register. Then when it becomes unstuck, the mouse moves around and
  everything. Hope this helps.

  See also this forum thread for other people with the same problem:
  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=432057

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Re: [Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-07-26 Thread Marcus Haslam
I'm out of the office until 1st August.

On 28 Apr 2011, at 22:26, Marius Kotsbak 124...@bugs.launchpad.net  
wrote:

 Bryce, thanks for your insight into this. While starting to  
 investigate
 this problem, I made a very interesting discovery and possibly solved
 the issue (at least drastically reduced the severity of it) for my
 laptop:

 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-
 evdev/+bug/769103/comments/26

 Nice if other people struggeling with this can test this too.

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 Status in GNU Emacs:
  Invalid
 Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts:
  Invalid
 Status in The Linux Kernel:
  Confirmed
 Status in X.Org X server:
  In Progress
 Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu:
  Won't Fix
 Status in “xorg-server” package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged
 Status in “linux” source package in Jaunty:
  Won't Fix
 Status in “xorg-server” source package in Jaunty:
  Invalid
 Status in Gentoo Linux:
  New

 Bug description:
  Keyboard keys such as the arrows, Alt-F4, PageUp/PageDown, etc. often
  get 'stuck' and continue being 'clicked' even after they are
  physically released. For example when clicking Alt-F4, sometimes it
  gets stuck so all the windows are closed instead of just one.

  My configuration is Feisty + Xgl + Compiz Fusion. My previous
  configuration was Edgy + Xgl + Beryl, where this didn't happen.  
 Others
  have reported the same problem without using either Xgl or Compiz.

  The keyboard itself isn't the problem. When dual-booting to Windows,
  everything works fine. Also, the problem happens with two different
  keyboards (internal laptop, external USB).

  My best guess is that the problem occurs at time of high system load.
  Somehow during these times the key-release signal gets lost and the
  key-press is repeated indefinitely. This happens more often with
  Compiz configurations because Compiz tends to increase system load.  
 It
  also happens more often with power-hungry apps like Firefox and
  Acrobat Reader for similar reasons.

  PS: When the keys would repeat all input devices would be locked up.
  ie. mouse won't move, clicks don't do anything, keyboard presses  
 don't
  register. Then when it becomes unstuck, the mouse moves around and
  everything. Hope this helps.

  See also this forum thread for other people with the same problem:
  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=432057

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Re: [Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-07-26 Thread Marcus Haslam
I'm out of the office until 1st August.

On 28 Apr 2011, at 22:59, Marius Kotsbak 124...@bugs.launchpad.net  
wrote:

 Regarding the bug severity, I can only agree on that given that we  
 have
 the workaround of disabling keyboard repeat in the X server settings.
 Without that, depending on the frequency it happens, it can make the  
 PC
 almost unusable or at least too unpredictable to trust, i.e. you  
 always
 risk, like when I am writing in this text field to loose all when I am
 correcting one typo if I don't react in time, close all tabs in the
 browser when typing ctrl-w (since this shortcut starts CPU load, the  
 bug
 occurence actually increase at exactly that time, as with tab  
 completion
 in terminal).

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 Status in GNU Emacs:
  Invalid
 Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts:
  Invalid
 Status in The Linux Kernel:
  Confirmed
 Status in X.Org X server:
  In Progress
 Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu:
  Won't Fix
 Status in “xorg-server” package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged
 Status in “linux” source package in Jaunty:
  Won't Fix
 Status in “xorg-server” source package in Jaunty:
  Invalid
 Status in Gentoo Linux:
  New

 Bug description:
  Keyboard keys such as the arrows, Alt-F4, PageUp/PageDown, etc. often
  get 'stuck' and continue being 'clicked' even after they are
  physically released. For example when clicking Alt-F4, sometimes it
  gets stuck so all the windows are closed instead of just one.

  My configuration is Feisty + Xgl + Compiz Fusion. My previous
  configuration was Edgy + Xgl + Beryl, where this didn't happen.  
 Others
  have reported the same problem without using either Xgl or Compiz.

  The keyboard itself isn't the problem. When dual-booting to Windows,
  everything works fine. Also, the problem happens with two different
  keyboards (internal laptop, external USB).

  My best guess is that the problem occurs at time of high system load.
  Somehow during these times the key-release signal gets lost and the
  key-press is repeated indefinitely. This happens more often with
  Compiz configurations because Compiz tends to increase system load.  
 It
  also happens more often with power-hungry apps like Firefox and
  Acrobat Reader for similar reasons.

  PS: When the keys would repeat all input devices would be locked up.
  ie. mouse won't move, clicks don't do anything, keyboard presses  
 don't
  register. Then when it becomes unstuck, the mouse moves around and
  everything. Hope this helps.

  See also this forum thread for other people with the same problem:
  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=432057

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Re: [Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-07-26 Thread Marcus Haslam
I'm out of the office until 1st August.

On 29 Apr 2011, at 13:49, james_mcl 124...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:

 In answer to post 310, Bryce, I'm sorry but there's a serious
 misunderstanding of the issue in your post.

 You state hitting a key a second time (to fire a new up-key signal)
 makes things work.

 This is not the case for everyone affected, or for every instance of  
 the
 bug. The original poster, and post 121, refer to subsequent keypresses
 and their keydown events being ignored completely by the system.  
 Post 40
 mentions the need to furiously press another key several times to  
 get
 the system to recognise it and stop the repeats.

 In my case, the behaviour of the bug has varied as I've gone through
 different distros; possibly not behaving consistently even in  
 identical
 distros (since my workaround for the past two-and-a-half years has  
 been
 to go back to Hardy Heron, this hasn't really been put to the test.)

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 Status in GNU Emacs:
  Invalid
 Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts:
  Invalid
 Status in The Linux Kernel:
  Confirmed
 Status in X.Org X server:
  In Progress
 Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu:
  Won't Fix
 Status in “xorg-server” package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged
 Status in “linux” source package in Jaunty:
  Won't Fix
 Status in “xorg-server” source package in Jaunty:
  Invalid
 Status in Gentoo Linux:
  New

 Bug description:
  Keyboard keys such as the arrows, Alt-F4, PageUp/PageDown, etc. often
  get 'stuck' and continue being 'clicked' even after they are
  physically released. For example when clicking Alt-F4, sometimes it
  gets stuck so all the windows are closed instead of just one.

  My configuration is Feisty + Xgl + Compiz Fusion. My previous
  configuration was Edgy + Xgl + Beryl, where this didn't happen.  
 Others
  have reported the same problem without using either Xgl or Compiz.

  The keyboard itself isn't the problem. When dual-booting to Windows,
  everything works fine. Also, the problem happens with two different
  keyboards (internal laptop, external USB).

  My best guess is that the problem occurs at time of high system load.
  Somehow during these times the key-release signal gets lost and the
  key-press is repeated indefinitely. This happens more often with
  Compiz configurations because Compiz tends to increase system load.  
 It
  also happens more often with power-hungry apps like Firefox and
  Acrobat Reader for similar reasons.

  PS: When the keys would repeat all input devices would be locked up.
  ie. mouse won't move, clicks don't do anything, keyboard presses  
 don't
  register. Then when it becomes unstuck, the mouse moves around and
  everything. Hope this helps.

  See also this forum thread for other people with the same problem:
  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=432057

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Re: [Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-07-26 Thread Marcus Haslam
I'm out of the office until 1st August.

On 28 Apr 2011, at 21:06, Bryce Harrington 124...@bugs.launchpad.net  
wrote:

 Regarding splitting the bug reports up rather than having this one
 gargantuan 300+-post bug...

 I do typically prefer having separate bug reports per person/ 
 machine, as
 having to read through hundreds of comments is akin to having to  
 read a
 car manual just to change a flat tire... :-)  These long thread bugs
 also tend to accumulate people with similar-but-not-the-same bug, so
 that adds confusion and also makes it less likely that we can get  
 *all*
 the problems solved (and makes it hard to verify fixes).

 However, in this case, the general underlying issue is the X.org input
 handling design implementation, and I'm not sure having it broken up
 into separate bug reports will necessarily help.  Ultimately, the work
 to solve the general issue needs done upstream, and I think this bug
 report and its upstream linkages is sufficient.  So, I'll leave it  
 open
 so people can share workarounds and commiserate over it being  
 relegated
 to wishlist status and so on.  (However, note that we're going to  
 have a
 session at the upcoming UDS to discuss xserver wishlist bugs, so
 ironically setting it to wishlist should give it a bit more visibility
 this time around).

 The one situation where I *would* like to see separate bug reports on
 this issue is where you are encountering severe, repetitive problems.
 I.e., the keyboard goes crazy daily, or you have a set of steps that
 reproduces the problem more than half of the time.  I'd like to handle
 these individually because they are almost certainly HW-specific
 oddities and there may be things we can do to work around the issue or
 paper it over.  But be very clear in your description, and make sure  
 to
 include full debugging info and detail all the work you've done to
 diagnose it.  We may end up duping the bug reports back here, but I
 think this will make it easier for us to handle the severe exceptional
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 Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts:
  Invalid
 Status in The Linux Kernel:
  Confirmed
 Status in X.Org X server:
  In Progress
 Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu:
  Won't Fix
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  Triaged
 Status in “linux” source package in Jaunty:
  Won't Fix
 Status in “xorg-server” source package in Jaunty:
  Invalid
 Status in Gentoo Linux:
  New

 Bug description:
  Keyboard keys such as the arrows, Alt-F4, PageUp/PageDown, etc. often
  get 'stuck' and continue being 'clicked' even after they are
  physically released. For example when clicking Alt-F4, sometimes it
  gets stuck so all the windows are closed instead of just one.

  My configuration is Feisty + Xgl + Compiz Fusion. My previous
  configuration was Edgy + Xgl + Beryl, where this didn't happen.  
 Others
  have reported the same problem without using either Xgl or Compiz.

  The keyboard itself isn't the problem. When dual-booting to Windows,
  everything works fine. Also, the problem happens with two different
  keyboards (internal laptop, external USB).

  My best guess is that the problem occurs at time of high system load.
  Somehow during these times the key-release signal gets lost and the
  key-press is repeated indefinitely. This happens more often with
  Compiz configurations because Compiz tends to increase system load.  
 It
  also happens more often with power-hungry apps like Firefox and
  Acrobat Reader for similar reasons.

  PS: When the keys would repeat all input devices would be locked up.
  ie. mouse won't move, clicks don't do anything, keyboard presses  
 don't
  register. Then when it becomes unstuck, the mouse moves around and
  everything. Hope this helps.

  See also this forum thread for other people with the same problem:
  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=432057

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Re: [Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-07-26 Thread Marcus Haslam
I'm out of the office until 1st August.

On 29 Apr 2011, at 14:12, james_mcl 124...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:

 Okay... that last point needed a comment of its own - now to look at  
 the
 other issues raised.

 1.) Touch base about this with Ajax to find if he has any  
 experimental branches, or if he knows if anyone else is working on  
 the problem, and how you can help. - It never occurred to me that  
 any experimental threaded branches might exist! I'll be in touch  
 with him, thanks for that.
 (Though, given the bug's intermittency, I don't think anyone's going  
 to have a reliable, repetitive test case as described - it'll be a  
 matter of seeing if intervals of x days pass without the symptom  
 recurring.)

 2.) Maybe Wayland will gain a better system for handling keyboard
 events - Bryce, can you possibly supply the name of any particular  
 dev
 who would be in a position to know whether keyboard events in Wayland
 are being handled in a similar way to X? The possibility that this bug
 might survive all the way into X's successor is quite a horrific one!

 3.) For other people who, like me, are trying Marius's workaround -  
 you
 should know that he had to file another bug, in that changing the
 keyboard delay setting in /etc/kbd/config had no effect (meaning,
 presumably, that he had to change it in the terminal every time he
 booted up.)

 (Actually, I'm noticing it seems to have created a new bug in my  
 case -
 pressing Enter once seems to be interpreted as pressing Enter several
 times on some occasions - although the key repeat stops by itself in
 less than a second.)

 4.) Regarding post 313 - well, my keyboard certainly goes crazy daily,
 although I think this is probably true for most of us here. So I  
 guess I
 might have a HW-specific oddity, though not one affecting my Hardy
 partition.

 So, to repeat my question in post 301, to file a new bug:

 Would it be sufficient to run

 ubuntu-bug xorg

 referencing bug 124406, and then

 apport-collect (number of new bug)

 or is there any more information you would need that would not be
 supplied by this? (if so, please specify what this would be.)

 5.) In response to Post 310's assertions regarding the severity of the
 bug:

 there could conceivably be some rare scenarios where this bug could
 cause some severe issue like a stuck delete key deleting files or
 whatnot

 When the issue happens at least once daily, the question is not so  
 much
 whether this could be rare as how many days/weeks/months the user has
 before it happens - which eventually it must.

 And, for versions of the bug in which pressing another key doesn't  
 stop
 the repeating, it is *at least* as significant as the X crash/tie-dyed
 monitor, as the only way to resolve the issue is to hold down the  
 Power
 button.

 6.) Thanks for your help Bryce!

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 Status in GNU Emacs:
  Invalid
 Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts:
  Invalid
 Status in The Linux Kernel:
  Confirmed
 Status in X.Org X server:
  In Progress
 Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu:
  Won't Fix
 Status in “xorg-server” package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged
 Status in “linux” source package in Jaunty:
  Won't Fix
 Status in “xorg-server” source package in Jaunty:
  Invalid
 Status in Gentoo Linux:
  New

 Bug description:
  Keyboard keys such as the arrows, Alt-F4, PageUp/PageDown, etc. often
  get 'stuck' and continue being 'clicked' even after they are
  physically released. For example when clicking Alt-F4, sometimes it
  gets stuck so all the windows are closed instead of just one.

  My configuration is Feisty + Xgl + Compiz Fusion. My previous
  configuration was Edgy + Xgl + Beryl, where this didn't happen.  
 Others
  have reported the same problem without using either Xgl or Compiz.

  The keyboard itself isn't the problem. When dual-booting to Windows,
  everything works fine. Also, the problem happens with two different
  keyboards (internal laptop, external USB).

  My best guess is that the problem occurs at time of high system load.
  Somehow during these times the key-release signal gets lost and the
  key-press is repeated indefinitely. This happens more often with
  Compiz configurations because Compiz tends to increase system load.  
 It
  also happens more often with power-hungry apps like Firefox and
  Acrobat Reader for similar reasons.

  PS: When the keys would repeat all input devices would be locked up.
  ie. mouse won't move, clicks don't do anything, keyboard presses  
 don't
  register. Then when it becomes unstuck, the mouse moves around and
  everything. Hope this helps.

  See also this forum thread for other people with the same problem:
  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=432057

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Re: [Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-07-26 Thread Marcus Haslam
I'm out of the office until 1st August.

On 28 Apr 2011, at 20:54, Bryce Harrington 124...@bugs.launchpad.net  
wrote:

 While I may think this is a minor annoyance, the solution is  
 anything
 but, and as such it's not really a paper-cut scale problem.

 ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts
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 Status in GNU Emacs:
  Invalid
 Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts:
  Invalid
 Status in The Linux Kernel:
  Confirmed
 Status in X.Org X server:
  In Progress
 Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu:
  Won't Fix
 Status in “xorg-server” package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged
 Status in “linux” source package in Jaunty:
  Won't Fix
 Status in “xorg-server” source package in Jaunty:
  Invalid
 Status in Gentoo Linux:
  New

 Bug description:
  Keyboard keys such as the arrows, Alt-F4, PageUp/PageDown, etc. often
  get 'stuck' and continue being 'clicked' even after they are
  physically released. For example when clicking Alt-F4, sometimes it
  gets stuck so all the windows are closed instead of just one.

  My configuration is Feisty + Xgl + Compiz Fusion. My previous
  configuration was Edgy + Xgl + Beryl, where this didn't happen.  
 Others
  have reported the same problem without using either Xgl or Compiz.

  The keyboard itself isn't the problem. When dual-booting to Windows,
  everything works fine. Also, the problem happens with two different
  keyboards (internal laptop, external USB).

  My best guess is that the problem occurs at time of high system load.
  Somehow during these times the key-release signal gets lost and the
  key-press is repeated indefinitely. This happens more often with
  Compiz configurations because Compiz tends to increase system load.  
 It
  also happens more often with power-hungry apps like Firefox and
  Acrobat Reader for similar reasons.

  PS: When the keys would repeat all input devices would be locked up.
  ie. mouse won't move, clicks don't do anything, keyboard presses  
 don't
  register. Then when it becomes unstuck, the mouse moves around and
  everything. Hope this helps.

  See also this forum thread for other people with the same problem:
  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=432057

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Re: [Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-07-26 Thread Marcus Haslam
I'm out of the office until 1st August.

On 28 Apr 2011, at 20:52, Bryce Harrington 124...@bugs.launchpad.net  
wrote:

 Heh, I see my comment about this being a minor annoyance got people  
 in a
 huff.  ;-)

 Anyway, as to whether it's a kernel or X problem, it's sort of a bit  
 of
 both.  (The best bugs live in the cracks between two codebases.)  X  
 and
 the kernel communicate key events as signals rather than via  
 threading.
 And it only handles one signal at a time, so if for some reason the  
 key
 up signal was fired while another signal was being handled (e.g. from
 another device in your system) then it can get lost.  That's why  
 hitting
 a key a second time (to fire a new up-key signal) makes things work.
 The way signals behave is a kernel thing, so this is why it's partly
 kernel, partly X.  Essentially it's a race condition.  For deeper
 information see http://ajaxxx.livejournal.com/62378.html

 Really, it sounds like it's an upstream design flaw in X.  Ajax  
 appears
 to be thinking that the whole system should be ripped out and replaced
 with a threading system.  My own experience with threading is that
 sometimes the cure can be worse than the disease... threading can be
 quite hard to get right and sometimes has nasty side effects.  
  Needless
 to say, such a change is not trivial and not something we'd do at the
 Ubuntu distro level - definitely work that needs done upstream.  Maybe
 Wayland will gain a better system for handling keyboard events, and
 that's where efforts today should be directed?  Don't know.

 As an aside, you guys are right that there could conceivably be some
 rare scenarios where this bug could cause some severe issue like a  
 stuck
 delete key deleting files or whatnot.  Maybe some of you have even
 experienced something like that.  But for the vast majority of cases,
 the issue will exhibit itself as extraneous characters when you're
 typing documents and some such - definitely a lot less severe than
 random GPU lockups or sudden X crashes back to the login screen or  
 your
 monitor suddenly turning tie died.  These latter issues are
 unfortunately not as uncommon as I'd like, and until they are I tend  
 to
 judge anything less severe as a minor annoyance.  ;-)

 But annoyances are bad.  While I don't think this issue is one we're
 likely to work on in Ubuntu at the distro level, I can give some  
 advice
 about how to go forward with it, if you're wanting to pursue it
 yourself.  (And FSM bless you!)

 Due to the nature of the issue, it's frequency and severity are  
 going to
 vary from hardware to hardware.  Due to timings in hardware interrupts
 and signal generation, and even interactions with software, you might
 see it only with a particular combination of keyboard, motherboard,  
 and
 mouse.  Or it might go away after turning off your wireless.  Or might
 go away for 3 Ubuntu releases and then suddenly and quite mysteriously
 reappear.  Most of our typical keyboard debugging tools such as xev  
 are
 going to be of limited value in investigating it; it may tell you that
 the release signal didn't show up, but that doesn't explain why.  
  There
 are kernel debugging interfaces that will show what's going on there,
 but that gives limited insights as well.

 The first thing I would look at is obtaining a reliable repetitive  
 test
 case.  Get together hardware and a set of steps that lets you reliably
 reproduce the issue on command, or with a sane enough frequency (like
 steps that let you reproduce 25% of the time).  This makes testing  
 less
 time consuming and also gives you a strong way to determine it's
 definitely fixed.

 Next, it would be smart to ensure someone hasn't already fixed it.  
  That
 could save you a lot of work.  We provide xorg-edgers and kernel  
 ppas to
 facilitate doing this.  See https://launchpad.net/~xorg-
 edgers/+archive/ppa and http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/ 
 mainline/.

 Finally the hard part, which will require code hacking.  Touch base
 about this with Ajax to find if he has any experimental branches, or  
 if
 he knows if anyone else is working on the problem, and how you can  
 help.
 From his blog post, it sounds like the implementation of threaded  
 input
 handling might be the real way forward, and that could probably  
 benefit
 from extra testers and/or coders.

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 Status in X.Org X server:
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  Won't Fix
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  Triaged
 Status in “linux” source package in Jaunty:
  Won't Fix
 Status in “xorg-server” source package in Jaunty:
  Invalid
 Status in Gentoo Linux:
  New

 Bug 

Re: [Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-07-26 Thread Marcus Haslam
I'm out of the office until 1st August.

On 28 Apr 2011, at 20:53, Bryce Harrington 124...@bugs.launchpad.net  
wrote:

 I'm setting the X task to wishlist, since it looks to me like a true  
 fix
 to this general problem will require architectural reworking in X, as
 per my previous post.

 ** Changed in: xorg-server (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Medium = Wishlist

 ** Changed in: xorg-server (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete = Triaged

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 Status in GNU Emacs:
  Invalid
 Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts:
  Invalid
 Status in The Linux Kernel:
  Confirmed
 Status in X.Org X server:
  In Progress
 Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu:
  Won't Fix
 Status in “xorg-server” package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged
 Status in “linux” source package in Jaunty:
  Won't Fix
 Status in “xorg-server” source package in Jaunty:
  Invalid
 Status in Gentoo Linux:
  New

 Bug description:
  Keyboard keys such as the arrows, Alt-F4, PageUp/PageDown, etc. often
  get 'stuck' and continue being 'clicked' even after they are
  physically released. For example when clicking Alt-F4, sometimes it
  gets stuck so all the windows are closed instead of just one.

  My configuration is Feisty + Xgl + Compiz Fusion. My previous
  configuration was Edgy + Xgl + Beryl, where this didn't happen.  
 Others
  have reported the same problem without using either Xgl or Compiz.

  The keyboard itself isn't the problem. When dual-booting to Windows,
  everything works fine. Also, the problem happens with two different
  keyboards (internal laptop, external USB).

  My best guess is that the problem occurs at time of high system load.
  Somehow during these times the key-release signal gets lost and the
  key-press is repeated indefinitely. This happens more often with
  Compiz configurations because Compiz tends to increase system load.  
 It
  also happens more often with power-hungry apps like Firefox and
  Acrobat Reader for similar reasons.

  PS: When the keys would repeat all input devices would be locked up.
  ie. mouse won't move, clicks don't do anything, keyboard presses  
 don't
  register. Then when it becomes unstuck, the mouse moves around and
  everything. Hope this helps.

  See also this forum thread for other people with the same problem:
  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=432057

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Re: [Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-07-26 Thread Marcus Haslam
I'm out of the office until 1st August.

On 28 Apr 2011, at 15:11, james_mcl 124...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:

 Daniel - where you say that you can press any key to release the stuck
 one - over the years the bug's behaviour has varied, in some  
 versions of
 Ubuntu I've been able to stop the repeting keypress by pressing  
 another
 key, in others not. At the moment I usually seem to be able to stop it
 by pressing another key several times until it's recognised - so I  
 THINK
 that the bug has at least become less severe at some point between
 Intrepid and Maverick.

 Like Marius says, it is true that nobody knows how many underlying  
 bugs
 are causing this and where they lie - I should have asked Bryce what  
 to
 file this as a bug in; however going by his comment #285 I assumed  
 xorg.

 Daniel, could you specify whether your external keyboard is PS/2, USB,
 or something else? Somebody on Ubuntu Forums directed me to a  
 discussion
 thread where users of high-end Windows machines were experiencing it  
 on
 PS/2 keyboards - one person blaming this on their having hardware
 running faster than PS/2 was designed for. Probably not an accurate
 description of most people's situation, but it does suggest that  
 knowing
 the type of any external keyboard tried might be relevant.

 I'll be installing Natty today, so either today or tomorrow I should  
 be
 able to say whether that fixed it for me or not.

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 Status in GNU Emacs:
  Invalid
 Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts:
  New
 Status in The Linux Kernel:
  Confirmed
 Status in X.Org X server:
  In Progress
 Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu:
  Won't Fix
 Status in “xorg-server” package in Ubuntu:
  Incomplete
 Status in “linux” source package in Jaunty:
  Won't Fix
 Status in “xorg-server” source package in Jaunty:
  Invalid
 Status in Gentoo Linux:
  New

 Bug description:
  Keyboard keys such as the arrows, Alt-F4, PageUp/PageDown, etc. often
  get 'stuck' and continue being 'clicked' even after they are
  physically released. For example when clicking Alt-F4, sometimes it
  gets stuck so all the windows are closed instead of just one.

  My configuration is Feisty + Xgl + Compiz Fusion. My previous
  configuration was Edgy + Xgl + Beryl, where this didn't happen.  
 Others
  have reported the same problem without using either Xgl or Compiz.

  The keyboard itself isn't the problem. When dual-booting to Windows,
  everything works fine. Also, the problem happens with two different
  keyboards (internal laptop, external USB).

  My best guess is that the problem occurs at time of high system load.
  Somehow during these times the key-release signal gets lost and the
  key-press is repeated indefinitely. This happens more often with
  Compiz configurations because Compiz tends to increase system load.  
 It
  also happens more often with power-hungry apps like Firefox and
  Acrobat Reader for similar reasons.

  PS: When the keys would repeat all input devices would be locked up.
  ie. mouse won't move, clicks don't do anything, keyboard presses  
 don't
  register. Then when it becomes unstuck, the mouse moves around and
  everything. Hope this helps.

  See also this forum thread for other people with the same problem:
  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=432057

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-07-26 Thread Marius Kotsbak
I guess Canonical should exclude their own bugmails from their vacation
message service

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-07-16 Thread parq
Same problem on 10.10. Then updated to 11.04 and the bug still happens.

Affect randomly and keys starts to repeat. No chance to go to terminal
(ctrl+alt+fx). The system became inusable and almost freeze. Mouse works
most of the times, and then allows to do a software reset. If the mouse
doesn't work then the only way is a hardware reset.

Affects users with and without compiz (in 10.10) and with Unity and
gnome (in 11.04).

Hardware details: PS2 keyword, and usb mouse.

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-07-16 Thread Bryce Harrington
** Changed in: xorg-server (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: Bryce Harrington (bryce) = (unassigned)

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-07-16 Thread Marius Kotsbak
Parq:please open a separate bug report for your particular
laptop/motherboard.

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-05-30 Thread ticket
Had this problem with Ubuntu 10.04 and 10.1.
Suspend can get you out of the key repeat, rather than reboot.

Very intermittent.  A week can go by without seeing it, sometimes.
Makes internet mail order a bit scary.

Today, I was deleting some files and the del key started to repeat.
luckily the files were on a USB device 


ASUS P7P55D EVO m/b
Dell 105  keyboard (not USB)

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-05-23 Thread unimatrix
III've found a way to reproduce this bug on my laptop.

* Do a LEFT MOUSE CLICK and a PRESS A KEY at the same time. *

Works almost every time.

Result: tteesttt

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-05-23 Thread unimatrix
PS: It only works on the integrated touchpad mouse though. Does not
happen with a USB mouse.

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Re: [Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-05-23 Thread Bryce Harrington
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 02:02:21PM -, unimatrix wrote:
 PS: It only works on the integrated touchpad mouse though. Does not
 happen with a USB mouse.

File a new bug report.

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-05-20 Thread james_mcl
Thanks Bryce,

I did end up replacing the laptop, and it will be a little while before
I have access to the affected machine again (it now resides in the attic
at my parents' house!); however I'll be sure to file a bug report as
soon as I get there.

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-05-12 Thread Bryce Harrington
As I mentioned earlier, this was on the agenda for the xserver wishlist
bugs session at UDS, and was discussed yesterday.  From reviewing the
current status of the bug here and upstream, there seems to be a
legitimate issue in general, however the general fix for this (e.g.
Ajax's branch) are not things we would want to risk pulling in as a
backport, nor something of high enough importance for the ubuntu x team
to invest time into, so for these reasons we're closing the issue as a
wontfix at this time.

However, we are concerned about the cases where specific hardware is
significantly broken (as several have described in recent comments).
But these issues are difficult to analyze and work on within the context
of this particular bug report.  For users with issues that need deeper
investigation, please file a NEW bug using this command:

  $ ubuntu-bug xorg

It would be helpful if you can reference bug 124406, and include the
word 'keyboard' in the title so it gets autofiled predictably.


** Changed in: xorg-server (Ubuntu)
   Status: Triaged = Won't Fix

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-05-11 Thread Bryce Harrington
** Changed in: xorg-server (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Bryce Harrington (bryce)

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-05-11 Thread Bryce Harrington
@James, aha, as I suspected.  Thanks for checking that.  Those
interested in seeing development towards a fix for this issue can focus
on that branch.

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-05-07 Thread Marius Kotsbak
Bug #770680 has an interesting patch. Not sure if that solves more than
problems with volume keys.

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-04-30 Thread james_mcl
Well, I've just been in touch with Ajax.

I asked if he knew about any experimental thread-based branches:

There's http://cgit.freedesktop.org/~ajax/xserver/log/?h=input-thread-v3 , 
which I haven't touched
in months. It's assuredly broken if you poke it hard enough.

I also asked if Wayland would also be using the same signals-based
architecture that had caused all this:

Wayland doesn't have any SIGIO code.

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-04-29 Thread james_mcl
In answer to post 310, Bryce, I'm sorry but there's a serious
misunderstanding of the issue in your post.

You state hitting a key a second time (to fire a new up-key signal)
makes things work.

This is not the case for everyone affected, or for every instance of the
bug. The original poster, and post 121, refer to subsequent keypresses
and their keydown events being ignored completely by the system. Post 40
mentions the need to furiously press another key several times to get
the system to recognise it and stop the repeats.

In my case, the behaviour of the bug has varied as I've gone through
different distros; possibly not behaving consistently even in identical
distros (since my workaround for the past two-and-a-half years has been
to go back to Hardy Heron, this hasn't really been put to the test.)

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-04-29 Thread Marius Kotsbak
james_mcl: find/open a separate bug for your particular hardware then.

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-04-29 Thread james_mcl
Okay... that last point needed a comment of its own - now to look at the
other issues raised.

1.) Touch base about this with Ajax to find if he has any experimental 
branches, or if he knows if anyone else is working on the problem, and how you 
can help. - It never occurred to me that any experimental threaded branches 
might exist! I'll be in touch with him, thanks for that.
(Though, given the bug's intermittency, I don't think anyone's going to have a 
reliable, repetitive test case as described - it'll be a matter of seeing if 
intervals of x days pass without the symptom recurring.)

2.) Maybe Wayland will gain a better system for handling keyboard
events - Bryce, can you possibly supply the name of any particular dev
who would be in a position to know whether keyboard events in Wayland
are being handled in a similar way to X? The possibility that this bug
might survive all the way into X's successor is quite a horrific one!

3.) For other people who, like me, are trying Marius's workaround - you
should know that he had to file another bug, in that changing the
keyboard delay setting in /etc/kbd/config had no effect (meaning,
presumably, that he had to change it in the terminal every time he
booted up.)

(Actually, I'm noticing it seems to have created a new bug in my case -
pressing Enter once seems to be interpreted as pressing Enter several
times on some occasions - although the key repeat stops by itself in
less than a second.)

4.) Regarding post 313 - well, my keyboard certainly goes crazy daily,
although I think this is probably true for most of us here. So I guess I
might have a HW-specific oddity, though not one affecting my Hardy
partition.

So, to repeat my question in post 301, to file a new bug:

Would it be sufficient to run

ubuntu-bug xorg

referencing bug 124406, and then

apport-collect (number of new bug)

or is there any more information you would need that would not be
supplied by this? (if so, please specify what this would be.)

5.) In response to Post 310's assertions regarding the severity of the
bug:

there could conceivably be some rare scenarios where this bug could
cause some severe issue like a stuck delete key deleting files or
whatnot

When the issue happens at least once daily, the question is not so much
whether this could be rare as how many days/weeks/months the user has
before it happens - which eventually it must.

And, for versions of the bug in which pressing another key doesn't stop
the repeating, it is *at least* as significant as the X crash/tie-dyed
monitor, as the only way to resolve the issue is to hold down the Power
button.

6.) Thanks for your help Bryce!

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Re: [Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-04-29 Thread Mircea Deaconu
What I don't really understand in the whole threading vs. signals
discussion is why the kernel cannot buffer in a queue of some sort
those signals before processing them. They wouldn't be lost anymore
and the kernel could process them at its own pace.

2011/4/29 Marius Kotsbak 124...@bugs.launchpad.net:
 Regarding the bug severity, I can only agree on that given that we have
 the workaround of disabling keyboard repeat in the X server settings.
 Without that, depending on the frequency it happens, it can make the PC
 almost unusable or at least too unpredictable to trust, i.e. you always
 risk, like when I am writing in this text field to loose all when I am
 correcting one typo if I don't react in time, close all tabs in the
 browser when typing ctrl-w (since this shortcut starts CPU load, the bug
 occurence actually increase at exactly that time, as with tab completion
 in terminal).

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-04-28 Thread james_mcl
This is a two-part reply to Bryce Harrington's comment #294.

1.) I really have to take issue with your statement that it's a minor
annoyance (rather than an X lockup or crash). When the key that gets
stuck is Delete, for instance, this has the potential to wipe out
entire directories, and the consequences when the key in question is
Enter are utterly unpredictable. Furthermore, for instances of the bug
when subsequent key presses/releases are ignored and the key remains
stuck, the result - a reboot and loss of unsaved data - is preceisely
what would occur if X locked up or crashed.

2.) You ask people to file *new* bugs and be very specific about the
issue (with exact steps to reproduce, up to date logs, etc.). Would it
be sufficient to run

ubuntu-bug xorg

referencing bug 124406, and then

apport-collect (number of new bug)

or is there any more information you would need that would not be
supplied by this? (if so, please specify what this would be.)

Thanks,

James McLaughlin.

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-04-28 Thread Daniel Jost
I agree with your #1. My delete-key got stuck when deleting an e-mail in
thunderbird and it deleted me over 400 e-mails. thank god that there is
a trash folder, but at first i was really shocked.

Daniel

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-04-28 Thread Marius Kotsbak
I guess the problem is that there are more than one symptoms contained
in this bug and probably more than one bug in possibly xorg and the
kernel. The best would probably be to have one bug open for each, but
getting users to respect that is problably hard and maybe we don't even
know.

Anyway I want to get this solved. First I want to know if it is a kernel
or xorg bug for me and then try to ask the right people/mailinglists for
advices. Digging at the kernel code, I suspect it might be caused by the
interrupt handler for the keyboard to take too long to finish and while
it works no new key releases can be handled.

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-04-28 Thread Daniel Jost
Yes, you're right, my bug maybe a bit different due to my mouse and
keyboard keeps responding. I can press any key and the key that got
stuck is released.

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-04-28 Thread Marius Kotsbak
Japp, that is the same I see, but the freedesktop describe it as you
need to restart X server to stop it. And some see the bug using USB
keyboard too, but for me only with the integrated keyboard. And for some
the problem is a regression. Which makes me beleve our problem is caused
by the AT keyboard driver in the kernel.

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-04-28 Thread Daniel Jost
I've never tried with a external keyboard. I will try it and post the
results in my open bug. Otherwise it could get a bit crowded here with
comments.

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-04-28 Thread james_mcl
Daniel - where you say that you can press any key to release the stuck
one - over the years the bug's behaviour has varied, in some versions of
Ubuntu I've been able to stop the repeting keypress by pressing another
key, in others not. At the moment I usually seem to be able to stop it
by pressing another key several times until it's recognised - so I THINK
that the bug has at least become less severe at some point between
Intrepid and Maverick.

Like Marius says, it is true that nobody knows how many underlying bugs
are causing this and where they lie - I should have asked Bryce what to
file this as a bug in; however going by his comment #285 I assumed xorg.

Daniel, could you specify whether your external keyboard is PS/2, USB,
or something else? Somebody on Ubuntu Forums directed me to a discussion
thread where users of high-end Windows machines were experiencing it on
PS/2 keyboards - one person blaming this on their having hardware
running faster than PS/2 was designed for. Probably not an accurate
description of most people's situation, but it does suggest that knowing
the type of any external keyboard tried might be relevant.

I'll be installing Natty today, so either today or tomorrow I should be
able to say whether that fixed it for me or not.

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-04-28 Thread Vasil Kolev
I can vouch that this isn't hardware related. I have two machines, one
laptop that has an AT keyboard and another which uses USB, and I see the
problem on both. Sometimes I see the same issue on the laptop with the
mouse - the cursor sleeps for a second and then moves where it should've
gone.

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-04-28 Thread Daniel Jost
As I said i never tested the behaviour with a external keyboard. I
normally use the integrated keyboard of my thinkpad t400. A few hours
ago I upgraded to natty and attached a external keyboard and up to now
the error didn't happen again. I will now work again with the integrated
keyboard and post my results here.

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-04-28 Thread Bryce Harrington
Heh, I see my comment about this being a minor annoyance got people in a
huff.  ;-)

Anyway, as to whether it's a kernel or X problem, it's sort of a bit of
both.  (The best bugs live in the cracks between two codebases.)  X and
the kernel communicate key events as signals rather than via threading.
And it only handles one signal at a time, so if for some reason the key
up signal was fired while another signal was being handled (e.g. from
another device in your system) then it can get lost.  That's why hitting
a key a second time (to fire a new up-key signal) makes things work.
The way signals behave is a kernel thing, so this is why it's partly
kernel, partly X.  Essentially it's a race condition.  For deeper
information see http://ajaxxx.livejournal.com/62378.html

Really, it sounds like it's an upstream design flaw in X.  Ajax appears
to be thinking that the whole system should be ripped out and replaced
with a threading system.  My own experience with threading is that
sometimes the cure can be worse than the disease... threading can be
quite hard to get right and sometimes has nasty side effects.  Needless
to say, such a change is not trivial and not something we'd do at the
Ubuntu distro level - definitely work that needs done upstream.  Maybe
Wayland will gain a better system for handling keyboard events, and
that's where efforts today should be directed?  Don't know.

As an aside, you guys are right that there could conceivably be some
rare scenarios where this bug could cause some severe issue like a stuck
delete key deleting files or whatnot.  Maybe some of you have even
experienced something like that.  But for the vast majority of cases,
the issue will exhibit itself as extraneous characters when you're
typing documents and some such - definitely a lot less severe than
random GPU lockups or sudden X crashes back to the login screen or your
monitor suddenly turning tie died.  These latter issues are
unfortunately not as uncommon as I'd like, and until they are I tend to
judge anything less severe as a minor annoyance.  ;-)

But annoyances are bad.  While I don't think this issue is one we're
likely to work on in Ubuntu at the distro level, I can give some advice
about how to go forward with it, if you're wanting to pursue it
yourself.  (And FSM bless you!)

Due to the nature of the issue, it's frequency and severity are going to
vary from hardware to hardware.  Due to timings in hardware interrupts
and signal generation, and even interactions with software, you might
see it only with a particular combination of keyboard, motherboard, and
mouse.  Or it might go away after turning off your wireless.  Or might
go away for 3 Ubuntu releases and then suddenly and quite mysteriously
reappear.  Most of our typical keyboard debugging tools such as xev are
going to be of limited value in investigating it; it may tell you that
the release signal didn't show up, but that doesn't explain why.  There
are kernel debugging interfaces that will show what's going on there,
but that gives limited insights as well.

The first thing I would look at is obtaining a reliable repetitive test
case.  Get together hardware and a set of steps that lets you reliably
reproduce the issue on command, or with a sane enough frequency (like
steps that let you reproduce 25% of the time).  This makes testing less
time consuming and also gives you a strong way to determine it's
definitely fixed.

Next, it would be smart to ensure someone hasn't already fixed it.  That
could save you a lot of work.  We provide xorg-edgers and kernel ppas to
facilitate doing this.  See https://launchpad.net/~xorg-
edgers/+archive/ppa and http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/.

Finally the hard part, which will require code hacking.  Touch base
about this with Ajax to find if he has any experimental branches, or if
he knows if anyone else is working on the problem, and how you can help.
From his blog post, it sounds like the implementation of threaded input
handling might be the real way forward, and that could probably benefit
from extra testers and/or coders.

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-04-28 Thread Bryce Harrington
I'm setting the X task to wishlist, since it looks to me like a true fix
to this general problem will require architectural reworking in X, as
per my previous post.

** Changed in: xorg-server (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Medium = Wishlist

** Changed in: xorg-server (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete = Triaged

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-04-28 Thread Bryce Harrington
While I may think this is a minor annoyance, the solution is anything
but, and as such it's not really a paper-cut scale problem.

** Changed in: hundredpapercuts
   Status: New = Invalid

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-04-28 Thread Bryce Harrington
Regarding splitting the bug reports up rather than having this one
gargantuan 300+-post bug...

I do typically prefer having separate bug reports per person/machine, as
having to read through hundreds of comments is akin to having to read a
car manual just to change a flat tire... :-)  These long thread bugs
also tend to accumulate people with similar-but-not-the-same bug, so
that adds confusion and also makes it less likely that we can get *all*
the problems solved (and makes it hard to verify fixes).

However, in this case, the general underlying issue is the X.org input
handling design implementation, and I'm not sure having it broken up
into separate bug reports will necessarily help.  Ultimately, the work
to solve the general issue needs done upstream, and I think this bug
report and its upstream linkages is sufficient.  So, I'll leave it open
so people can share workarounds and commiserate over it being relegated
to wishlist status and so on.  (However, note that we're going to have a
session at the upcoming UDS to discuss xserver wishlist bugs, so
ironically setting it to wishlist should give it a bit more visibility
this time around).

The one situation where I *would* like to see separate bug reports on
this issue is where you are encountering severe, repetitive problems.
I.e., the keyboard goes crazy daily, or you have a set of steps that
reproduces the problem more than half of the time.  I'd like to handle
these individually because they are almost certainly HW-specific
oddities and there may be things we can do to work around the issue or
paper it over.  But be very clear in your description, and make sure to
include full debugging info and detail all the work you've done to
diagnose it.  We may end up duping the bug reports back here, but I
think this will make it easier for us to handle the severe exceptional
cases.

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-04-28 Thread Marius Kotsbak
Bryce, thanks for your insight into this. While starting to investigate
this problem, I made a very interesting discovery and possibly solved
the issue (at least drastically reduced the severity of it) for my
laptop:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-
evdev/+bug/769103/comments/26

Nice if other people struggeling with this can test this too.

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-04-28 Thread Marius Kotsbak
Regarding the bug severity, I can only agree on that given that we have
the workaround of disabling keyboard repeat in the X server settings.
Without that, depending on the frequency it happens, it can make the PC
almost unusable or at least too unpredictable to trust, i.e. you always
risk, like when I am writing in this text field to loose all when I am
correcting one typo if I don't react in time, close all tabs in the
browser when typing ctrl-w (since this shortcut starts CPU load, the bug
occurence actually increase at exactly that time, as with tab completion
in terminal).

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-04-23 Thread Marius Kotsbak
xrayA4T: the bug in X and in a pure console is a bit different, inside X it 
tyically makes you write:
thiiis iss a test stopping only when hitting a 
new key, but in console more like:

thiiss iss aa teessst stopping at releasing of the key, possibly just
because of too short delay before the repeating starts.

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-04-23 Thread xrayA4T
Hi Marius, I'm definitely getting the missed key up, as in your first
example, the last typed key will sporadically repeat indefinitely until
another key is pressed. So it is a lower level error that is giving the
same behaviour a the x error but in terminals too.if this its the case
should I be raising a different big and how many people who are
reporting the x error have this error?

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-04-23 Thread Marius Kotsbak
xrayA4T: the question is if the key stops repeating when releasing the
stuck key, that I claim is the case in pure terminal, and it seems you
have the same Gigabyte laptop as me, so you probably see the same.

Because of this different behavior inside and outside X, I suggest that
you can open a separate bug for the console issue (like my bug #769103).
I also think there are several related kernel bugs since some claim it
worked in an earlier kernel version, but I have verified that this is
not the case for my laptop.

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-04-23 Thread Marius Kotsbak
** Also affects: hundredpapercuts
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-04-22 Thread Marius Kotsbak
Opened bug #769103 for my Gigabyte laptop for Natty.

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-04-04 Thread xrayA4T
Bryce, this is more than a minor annoyance. If I need to switch to a
terminal (Ctrl-Alt-F2) because my X has locked up, it is almost
impossible to login because when you enter your password there is no way
to tell if a key has been repeated and so I keep entering invalid
passwords.

Should I be raising my issue as a different bug as this is too general?

Thanks
Raymond

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-04-04 Thread Marius Kotsbak
xrayA4T: japp I have also experienced that. And since it happens more
frequently when the CPU load is high, in that case of X lock up it is
more likely to happen. Have you seen my latests comments on the  kernel
bug. Do you use the same module for keyboard and do you have an Atom CPU
(I have only seen it on my Atom based CPUs).

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-03-21 Thread Bryce Harrington
I'm dropping the 'natty' tag added by Marius since to accept this bug
against the development release we need the info I asked for in a
previous comment.

The bug has been forwarded upstream and upstream developers are aware of
it, and since it's a minor annoyance (rather than an X lockup or crash),
it's not top priority for us for the release.  I think there is not
anything particular we would do about this issue for natty.

Also, from re-reading the comments on this and the upstream bug, it
sounds like there may be a couple or more different variants on the
keyboard gets stuck issue, which unfortunately are all gathered on
this bug report due to it having kind of a general purpose topic.  So,
if people do want to see progress on this bug it might be better to file
*new* bugs and be very specific about the issue (with exact steps to
reproduce, up to date logs, etc.)

** Changed in: xorg-server (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed = Incomplete

** Tags removed: natty

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-03-21 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: xorg-server
   Importance: Unknown = Medium

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-03-18 Thread Marius Kotsbak
** Summary changed:

- Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat (Feisty, Gutsy)
+ Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

** Tags added: maverick natty

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat

2011-03-18 Thread Bryce Harrington
** Changed in: xorg-server (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete = Confirmed

** Changed in: xorg-server (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = Medium

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[Bug 124406] Re: Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat (Feisty, Gutsy)

2011-02-03 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: linux
   Importance: Unknown = High

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