[Bug 1307981] Re: [touch] randomly messed up routing with recent trusty images

2014-05-07 Thread Tony Espy
Changed Status to FixCommitted, as this has landed in -proposed.

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[Bug 1307981] Re: [touch] randomly messed up routing with recent trusty images

2014-05-07 Thread Oliver Grawert
lxc-android-config (0.163) utopic; urgency=medium

  * add /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/02default_route_workaround to make
sure the default route is always reset when an interface change is
detected (LP: #1307981)

** Also affects: lxc-android-config (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: lxc-android-config (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Fix Released

** Changed in: lxc-android-config (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = High

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   Status: Fix Committed = Won't Fix

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[Bug 1307981] Re: [touch] randomly messed up routing with recent trusty images

2014-05-05 Thread Tony Espy
So a couple more comments...

1. Do we know if NM sees the mobile connection drop, and thus it re-
activates the context again, or does the context appear active to NM the
whole time and the connection drops and re-establishes itself without
action from NM?  My guess based upon Oliver's description is that the
latter is happening.

2. Android is obviously able to handle devices that configure the
routing table ( although I have seen references in the code that rild
implementation should *not* do this ).  Do we know how Android handles
this?

3. How difficult would it be to change the NM policy so that we never
have concurrent active mobile and Wi-Fi connections?  Our current model
is that we leave the mobile connection active when Wi-Fi is activated,
and then just switch the default route to Wi-Fi once connected.  One
final thought along these lines, does this leave us in a situation where
an app could have an active network session and continue to use mobile
data when Wi-Fi is activated?

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[Bug 1307981] Re: [touch] randomly messed up routing with recent trusty images

2014-05-03 Thread Oliver Grawert
on boot my routing is usually fine ... what i see today is:

- boot with proper default route over WLAN, mobile is enabled but not owning 
the default route.
- leave the phone next to me in the office or living room (both covered by the 
same WLAN) and randomly pick up the device to check G+ or read some news in a 
webapp
- two or three times throughout the day notice that suddenly the app pops up 
the internal error page, checking the routing then via adb shows the two 
default routes, disabling and re-enabling WLAN then sets the route properly 
again.
- while i *have* seen the routing being broken from boot on once or twice this 
is a very rare case, usually routing is fine on boot and breaks later (though 
pats comments above indicate that this is different for him)

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[Bug 1307981] Re: [touch] randomly messed up routing with recent trusty images

2014-05-02 Thread Tony Espy
After some discussion with Mathieu yesterday, there's one addition to my
previous comment.

On some phones, and in this case mako, rild actually configures the
routing table for the mobile network connection.  As rild is a binary
blob, and there's no parameters available to control this behavior, the
NM ofono code was designed with this in mind.

In the normal bringup case, this shouldn't be an issue as mobile data
will be activated, the routes setup, followed by WiFi if enabled, and NM
should be able to fixup the routing table correctly.

I suspect what maybe happening is that the mobile connection might be
dropping and then re-establishing itself, resulting in rild re-adding
the default route when one already exists for Wi-Fi.

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[Bug 1307981] Re: [touch] randomly messed up routing with recent trusty images

2014-05-02 Thread Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre
That routing code is a red herring, it's actually never reached in the
case where wifi is already activated, because wifi remains the best IP4
connection available (given that it has a higher priority than modems).

From what I see here, it seems like rild is just *always* setting the
route, and this is basically just a race between NM and rild: if rild
happens to write the route before NM has activated the primary; then
you'll get a valid routing table (because the rild route gets replaced
by NM's route via wifi), but if it happens after, NM rightfully no
longer cares about what happens to the routing. This *is* proper
behavior since we can't go trash routes that could be added after the
connection by a sysadmin or some other process...

I'd very much like to understand why this suddently became an issue -- I
don't think either code bases changed much in relation to routing, so
something ought to have changed in the environment on mako.

I see two options, listed in order of preference (not necessarily
feasibility):

1) Convince rild to never set up the default route. I would have hope
this to be doable via an android property that can be set, I tried to
find a property that looked related, but without results yet. It could
well not be feasible at all, sadly.

2) Ship a custom dispatcher script in lxc-android-config; to, on
purpose, trash the boot routing table which rild abuses to do this. I
would rather do this as a dispatcher script we ship only on touch,
because I think it's explicitly Very Very Wrong to muck with the routing
table arbitrarily for other images.

I did already test this as a workaround with the expected successful
result, see http://paste.ubuntu.com/7376744/.

3) Find a way to catch the precise, exact route using netlink in the
ofono modem plugin of NM; and explicitly RTM_DELROUTE it. This is the
safest to ship everywhere, but requires the most effort.

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[Bug 1307981] Re: [touch] randomly messed up routing with recent trusty images

2014-05-02 Thread Tony Espy
I'm not sure what you mean by the routing code is a red herring?

Also, I'd like to get the exact scenario nailed down.

Oliver's description said that he had Wi-Fi enabled the whole time.   If
so, was the routing table *ever* correct, or was it broken from  boot
onwards?

So which of the following two scenarios do we think is happening?

After the initial device boot, it has a valid default route pointing at
wlan and network access is enabled, then at some point rild comes along
and blindly adds a new default route due to the data call dropping and
being re-established.

OR

At boot, since WiFi is enabled, both the mobile context and the WiFi
connection are started by NM, but the rild activation takes longer than
WiFi, so rild winning the race and adds it's additional default route.

As for the options listed above...

1. I could find no way to do this...

2. I'm not sure what you mean by trash the 'boot' routing table...?
What what would trigger this script?  Would this work for both scenarios
mentioned above ( ie. race at initial boot, or mobile link dropping and
connection being re-established )?

3. So the basic idea is that you'd add a routing table listener to the
NM ofono code, and that this listener would delete a default route added
for mobile data if a default route already existed?  Isn't there an
inherent race ( albeit a small one ) in this approach?

I guess one final question is there anyway to configure our system
routing policy to prevent this from being possible ( ie. prevent two
default routes from being configured )?

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[Bug 1307981] Re: [touch] randomly messed up routing with recent trusty images

2014-05-02 Thread Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre
After the initial device boot, it has a valid default route pointing at
wlan and network access is enabled, then at some point rild comes along
and blindly adds a new default route due to the data call dropping and
being re-established.

This is only a problem when wifi is enabled, because otherwise you don't
care what creates the default route for mobile, just that there is one.


There are a few candidate properties for this kind of stuff. Digging more, it's 
not even quite rild that applies the route, but really more netmgrd (at least, 
it seems to me like it's the case). This doesn't change the fact that both are 
binary blobs from qualcomm or wherever, so not much to do about it. There are 
lots of rild and netmgrd properties though, it's just not well documented what 
each does.

As for trashing the 'boot' table, it's a one-liner that would be
triggered by NM directly on every device activation. NM doesn't touch
the 'ip route list proto boot' routes, just kernel routes, so flushing
that whole list is safe as long as we know there is nothing else that is
expected to use it for a good reason -- that's something we can only say
with any degree of confidence on Touch.

As for doing this programmatically directly in NM, it's not at all a
listener. I want to avoid doing any such kind of route listening,
because NM already does it for other things elsewhere, and it's just not
necessary. When the modem is activated, we can just try to delete a
route defined to be a default gateway via the gateway address we already
got from ofono, whether it exists or not.

All of these options remain racy because there is no way to control
rild/netmgrd. You can only hope they do their stuff right and don't take
too long to run.

You can't specify a routing policy that prevents two default routes,
because this is something that is actually valid in some circumstances.
The best you can do is either remove the routes after they are added, or
prevent rild/netmgrd from adding the routes in the first place, and
there currently doesn't seem to be a way to do the latter. I'm still
looking at whether it's possible to change security policies to deal
with this.

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[Bug 1307981] Re: [touch] randomly messed up routing with recent trusty images

2014-05-01 Thread Tony Espy
The routing and in particular the switching of the default route is
handled soley by NM.

This was an issue last Summer during initial development of the NM ofono
code, but Mathieu believed he'd resolved the issue.

Apparently there's still some sort of race and it's possible that other
recent system changes may have caused it to be triggered more easily.

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[Bug 1307981] Re: [touch] randomly messed up routing with recent trusty images

2014-04-30 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

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[Bug 1307981] Re: [touch] randomly messed up routing with recent trusty images

2014-04-30 Thread Pat McGowan
** Changed in: network-manager (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre (mathieu-tl)

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[Bug 1307981] Re: [touch] randomly messed up routing with recent trusty images

2014-04-30 Thread Alexander Sack
maybe red herring, but see this entry which probably indicates that
stuff doesn't go as expected:

Apr 28 16:55:42 ubuntu-phablet NetworkManager[1212]: error
[1398718542.745922] [nm-system.c:965] add_ip4_route_to_gateway():
(rmnet_usb0): failed to add IPv4 route to gateway (-12)

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[Bug 1307981] Re: [touch] randomly messed up routing with recent trusty images

2014-04-30 Thread Alexander Sack
pat: the syslog you  attached was captured when you were in that state?
or after reboot/fixing?

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[Bug 1307981] Re: [touch] randomly messed up routing with recent trusty images

2014-04-30 Thread Alexander Sack
could be red herring, but guess that error could really make nm not do
proper default route replace...

in nm-system.c:1043 you see the code that will give up trying to replace
the gateway in case the add_ip4_route_to_gateway call fails...


   /* Try adding a direct route to the gateway first */
gw_route = add_ip4_route_to_gateway (parent_ifindex, ext_gw, 
parent_mss);
if (!gw_route)
goto out;

/* Try adding the original route again */
err = replace_default_ip4_route (ifindex, int_gw, mss);
if (err != 0) {
nm_netlink_route_delete (gw_route);
nm_log_err (LOGD_DEVICE | LOGD_VPN | LOGD_IP4,
(%s): failed to set IPv4 default route (pass #2): 
%d,
iface, err);
} else
success = TRUE;

out:
if (gw_route)
rtnl_route_put (gw_route);
g_free (iface);

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[Bug 1307981] Re: [touch] randomly messed up routing with recent trusty images

2014-04-30 Thread Alexander Sack
sorry above i referenced wrong linenumber inside the vpn specific code
... but the same pattern is also around 1094...

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[Bug 1307981] Re: [touch] randomly messed up routing with recent trusty images

2014-04-30 Thread Alexander Sack
cypher/tony: maybe worth checking/debugging this code and making it more
robust?

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[Bug 1307981] Re: [touch] randomly messed up routing with recent trusty images

2014-04-30 Thread Alexander Sack
ignore my posts in #10 and #11... i misread that code... however, the
error in #9 seems to be in code that is only run if something with the
normal default route replace didn't work...

someone with device and closer to code probably should check this out.

Maybe ofono or the modem driver also tries to do route magic which
causes a racy situation here?

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[Bug 1307981] Re: [touch] randomly messed up routing with recent trusty images

2014-04-29 Thread Pat McGowan
Happened here after first flash and boot to u3 on mako

phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ route
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface
default 10.185.115.145  0.0.0.0 UG0  00 
rmnet_usb0
default 10.0.1.10.0.0.0 UG0  00 wlan0
10.0.1.0*   255.255.255.0   U 9  00 wlan0
10.185.115.144  *   255.255.255.252 U 13 00 
rmnet_usb0


phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ sudo ping www.google.com
PING www.google.com (74.125.226.244) 56(84) bytes of data.
^C
--- www.google.com ping statistics ---
13 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 12003ms


phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ sudo ip route
default via 10.185.115.145 dev rmnet_usb0 
default via 10.0.1.1 dev wlan0  proto static 
10.0.1.0/24 dev wlan0  proto kernel  scope link  src 10.0.1.39  metric 9 
10.185.115.144/30 dev rmnet_usb0  proto kernel  scope link  src 10.185.115.144  
metric 13

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[Bug 1307981] Re: [touch] randomly messed up routing with recent trusty images

2014-04-29 Thread Pat McGowan
Same symptoms on 5 straight boots

Turning wifi off allowed 3g to work
Turning 3g off allowed wifi to work
 Disabled 3g data and then reboot wlan worked fine

Enabled 3g data and reboot and back to the network not being reachable

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[Bug 1307981] Re: [touch] randomly messed up routing with recent trusty images

2014-04-29 Thread Pat McGowan
** Attachment added: syslog
   
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1307981/+attachment/4100752/+files/syslog

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[Bug 1307981] Re: [touch] randomly messed up routing with recent trusty images

2014-04-29 Thread Oliver Grawert
i just noticed bug 1314410

do not rely on a webapp for testing if your connectivity is back
(restarting the app works fine indeed, but the button on the error page
nor the refresh option from the hud does not)

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[Bug 1307981] Re: [touch] randomly messed up routing with recent trusty images

2014-04-19 Thread Oliver Grawert
ogra@styx:~/apps$ adb shell ip route 
default via 37.83.18.26 dev rmnet_usb1 
default via 192.168.2.1 dev wlan0  proto static 
37.83.18.24/30 dev rmnet_usb1  proto kernel  scope link  src 37.83.18.25 
192.168.2.0/24 dev wlan0  proto kernel  scope link  src 192.168.2.78  metric 9 
ogra@styx:~/apps$

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[Bug 1307981] Re: [touch] randomly messed up routing with recent trusty images

2014-04-15 Thread Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre
If this happens again, could you get the same routing table but with the
'ip route' command instead?

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