[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2020-07-04 Thread Lewis Cowles
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1592229 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1592229

FYI, I fixed the 20.04 official ISO using rufus with a USB drive that my
machine could boot.

I thought I'd only used Ubuntu official, but apparently I'm using
https://github.com/hirotakaster/baytail-
bootia32.efi/blob/master/bootia32.efi judging from the signatures.

I also downloaded `grub-efi-ia32-bin_2.04-1ubuntu26_amd64.deb` from
ubuntu repositories. It's pre-compiled, so I'd imagine it includes a
signature (at least I was not bothered for one).

I used the tool Rufus to create a USB booting media from the official
20.04 Desktop ISO.

I unpacked usr\lib\grub\i386-efi, omitting the "monolithic" sub-folder
to my boot/grub folder

I then overwrote the .lst files and .cfg files with the same ones as the
amd64 image uses

Past that point, ubuntu set everything up for me, including detecting
and installing `grub-efi-ia32`

I had to swap out the heat-sink, because it was a thick piece of what
looked like Aluminium foil. I added a Raspberry-Pi 4b heatsink that did
not fit on a Pi-4B, and cut out a hole on the back of the tablet.

I lastly disabled the swap as it's an EMMC and swapping I believe will
wear out the media faster.

My only complaint is that the keys on the on-screen-keyboard are tiny
and I need to use a stylus, but I don't, I use the device as an 9"
portable screen, which I can interact with via micro-USB.

To install Ubuntu I did need a micro-usb to usb-A adapter, with a port
multiplexor so that I could use a wired keyboard and mouse.

Install took longer than 15 minutes, possibly an hour. Tablet boots and
I took a backup of the windows install in-case I ever want to go back
using gnome disks utility to a micro-SD that got particularly hot, but
did not die. Be careful with heat on these things.

Wi-Fi works
Touchscreen & orientation work
micro-SD works
There seems to be a 4MB drive that shows up. I backed it up to micro-SD, but 
it's not a part of the eMMC. I'm assuming it's firmware and never touching it.
Intel graphics works and plays minecraft using optifine (works slower without)

Sometimes OOM crashes the entire device
I do turn off screen blanking
external HDMI via microHDMI -> full HDMI works
Lack of keyboard and mouse and no detection of primary touch device means the 
tablet is unusable without at least a mouse via USB

If I'm honest, avoid buying these cheap devices, but I would be
interested to find out how to contribute grub-ia32-efi-bin for all
64-bit ISO's, just so people can get started.

I'd also be interested in automatically enabling the on-screen keyboard
for touch devices on intel Atom

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2016-08-31 Thread Phillip Susi
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1592229 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1592229

** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 1592229
   Install grub-efi-ia32 on i386/efi platforms

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2016-07-28 Thread Ben
Really wish this could get fixed for 16.10- I'm already running Ubuntu
Touch/Unity 8 on my phone, but this bug is keeping me from transitioning
my tablet over to Ubuntu. Sure, I can get it working with Debian as it's
built into the multiboot installer at this point, but only Unity 8 can
truly do the touch interface usably in my experience. It's quite
confusing that this is working fine upstream in Debian but not here in
Ubuntu. Can anyone explain why this is?

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2016-07-16 Thread Timo Kangas
Sorry about the typo, should be pisses me off..

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2016-07-16 Thread Timo Kangas
Sorry to say but this type of problem solving pushes me towards ...
Pishes me off.

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2016-06-20 Thread carlix
Any progress?

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2016-06-11 Thread Timo Kangas
Something found by Google https://blogs.intel.com/evangelists/2015/07/22
/why-cheap-systems-run-32-bit-uefi-on-x64-systems/

I tried also Fedora, no success.

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2016-06-02 Thread Timo Kangas
This is a very serious issue, at least for me. I bought Asus Aspire
Switch 10 E and I've been fighting to install Linux to it. This has been
the closest one as a solution  http://www.jfwhome.com/2014/03/07
/perfect-ubuntu-or-other-linux-on-the-asus-transformer-book-t100/ , but
bootia32.efi is a one issue. I can't make a proper one because I have
12.04 in current laptop (because it is old and due to the graphics I
can't update it). I tried also one mentioned behind the link Anyway, I
was able to get to the phase where in GRUB you manually define the
kernel and then you boot the machine. Everything started promising, but
then it stops to error message "mount: can't find root in /etc/fstab". I
checked the fstab and it looked OK. But when I checked the /dev
directory there were no mmcblk-devices, only in boot-USB had them.

I also tried to use Debian-distro which is mentioned in this discussion,
but it won't boot up because of the security issue. BIOS of the machine
has place where is said that enable all UEFI-boots as secure but I
couldn't change it.

So my hope is that we will get this mixed distro from Ubuntu.

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2016-06-01 Thread ClairelyClaire
As far as other distros go - can anyone confirm if any distros other
than Ubuntu have the signed kernel and UEFI bootloader required to
ensure Secure Boot can remain enabled on the machine? Not everyone will
necessarily be bothered by needing to disable Secure Boot, but some OEMs
make it pretty arduous to do so.

AFAIK Ubuntu is the only distro that has the certs to sign the things
for Secure Boot checks.

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2016-05-30 Thread antidrugue
This as been mentioned earlier in this thread (see comment #7), but just to 
clarify :
* Debian Jessie i386 does work nicely on the Asus X205TA (cf. 
https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Asus/X205TA)
* Debian Jessie has been working since January 5, 2015 (cf. 
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/efi-development/jessie-upload2/) 
on the Asus X205TA

So 32 bits distributions DO WORK on this machine. In the case of Debian
Jessie, the installer works perfectly except for wifi. You just need to
update the kernel after the initial installation -- like this for
example : sudo apt-get install -t jessie-backport linux-image-686 and
you're done. Nothing difficult or special.

Not sure why the UEFI 32-bit is such an issue on Ubuntu. The Debian
installer has been supporting this architecture for 18 months now. I've
been running Debian Jessie 32 bits on an Asus X205TA for these 18 months
and all is well. Don't why "fourdollars" is not able to boot Debian
Jessie 32 bits, perhaps simply a wrongly formatted image ? Don't know
about Debian Testing, but Debian Stable (Jessie) just works, 32 bits and
64 bits without any workaround.

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2016-05-29 Thread Zanna
On X205TA to my knowledge only 64-bit images of any distro have *ever*
worked for anyone in the community

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2016-05-29 Thread Shih-Yuan Lee
Regrading Debian multiarch, I can only boot into amd64 kernel instead of i386 
kernel.
Is anyone able to boot into i386 kernel by UEFI BIOS 32-bit?

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2016-05-29 Thread carlix
Debian testing multiarch work out of the box

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2016-05-28 Thread Timo Kangas
Problem have been seen and analysed pretty well about year ago. No
solution from Ubuntu group. Cloest one is this
http://askubuntu.com/questions/392719/32-bit-uefi-boot-support. My point
is that you have to be very advanced Linux user to use this workaround.

Can anyone recommend an other Linux distro?

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2016-05-25 Thread carlix
If Debían hace support, why not Ubuntu?

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2016-05-06 Thread Zanna
Confirmed, you have to replace the bootia32.efi when making USB, BUT when you 
install from USB with the following method, it does boot:
Select: Try Ubuntu without installing
On the desktop click: Install Ubuntu
In the options choose: Erase the disk and install Ubuntu
(that option may not be desirable for all users!)

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2016-05-06 Thread Shih-Yuan Lee
Using ubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso + the ia32 EFI GRUB from the multi-arch 
Debian ISO can workaround this issue.
http://askubuntu.com/questions/392719/32-bit-uefi-boot-support
http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2016-05-06 Thread carlix
The file bootia32.efi is necessary I used it to boot Ubuntu 16.04, I
have bought my acer aspire switch 10 and I can't boot after install
it!!!

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2016-04-01 Thread Zanna
Today, using a USB that I made to live boot Ubuntu 16.04 (i posted in a
bootia32.efi file, but i didn't try to boot first, so maybe it wasn't
necessary as it was when i installed 14.04) on my Asus X205TA, I ran the
installer (erasing the disk) and allowed it to restart. The installation
booted! So apparently xenial is now shipping with this mystical 32bit
UEFI bootloader. Awesome!

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2016-03-04 Thread Brian Johnson
This also affects the Nextbook Flexx 11.6" tablet.  I'm able to boot
Ubuntu Studio 15.10 from USB, after adding a 32-bit grub executable.  I
can then install to a MicroSD card in the external slot, but the final
installation or update of grub fails, and the result isn't bootable.
Still trying to figure out how to properly install 32-bit grub on the
MicroSD... no luck yet.

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2015-12-19 Thread Carsten Schlote
Faced the problem today on a cheap surfpad from TrekStor. It is the
"TrekStor SurfTab wintron 7.0".

I had to copy the right EFI loader from a debian stick to my ubuntu
install stick.

Wouldn't it be much easier, when Ubuntu would just provide both EFI
loaders, which in turn use the same boot.cfg file?

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2015-12-17 Thread hackerseraph
This affects the Macbook 2,1 as well

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2015-12-06 Thread bjc
The Acer ONE S1002 has the same 64 bit atom processor with 32 bit uefi,
now with 32 bit windows 10 installed. The saga continues.

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2015-11-28 Thread Виталий
Same thing on DEXP Ursus 10w. No IA-32 support by GRUB2

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2015-10-27 Thread Daar
For install Ubuntu on the tablet oysters T104W also needs ia32 UEFI
loader.

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2015-10-21 Thread Shih-Yuan Lee
ASUS EeeBook X205TA only supports 32-bit UEFI.
http://www.asus.com/Notebooks/ASUS_EeeBook_X205TA/

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2015-10-08 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: debian-installer
   Status: Unknown => New

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2015-10-06 Thread Shih-Yuan Lee
** Bug watch added: Debian Bug tracker #768461
   http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=768461

** Also affects: debian-installer via
   http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=768461
   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2015-09-11 Thread Alberto Salvia Novella
** Changed in: debian-installer (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => High

** Changed in: live-build (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => High

** Changed in: ubiquity (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => High

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2015-08-30 Thread Zanna
Thanks for replying! I have now fixed it, finally managed to learn
enough to follow the guides effectively. Clear info on this thread
helped to orient me so thank you! The aversion I feel to Windows is
really really strong. Everything about the Ubuntu environment I've
experienced makes me happy. Despite the issues, I'm extremely glad I
switched, and my struggle has been mainly edifying rather than
frustrating. I'm looking forward to fixing up other issues on the
device. That said, this bug would have sent less committed users back to
Windows.

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2015-08-30 Thread ClairelyClaire
The 32-bit image will only work with Secure Boot turned off and legacy
or CSM boot enabled in your device's UEFI. I don't remember off the top
of my head if the X205TA offers this ability, but I'm pretty sure it
does.

You might be better off using Windows until 64-bit Ubuntu is stable,
tbh. Windows 8 *really* isn't that bad, and you can upgrade to Windows
10 pretty much immediately, which will alleviate some of your concerns
(like how different the Start screen looks compared to the old Start
menu).

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2015-08-29 Thread TJ
** Changed in: grub2 (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed = Triaged

** Changed in: grub2 (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = High

** Also affects: debian-installer (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Also affects: ubiquity (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Also affects: live-build (Ubuntu)
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2015-08-29 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

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Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2015-08-25 Thread Ubuntu QA Website
This bug has been reported on the Ubuntu ISO testing tracker.

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2015-08-20 Thread ClairelyClaire
@jokker: You can boot 64-bit Ubuntu on the Switch 10 (or any other Bay
Trail Atom device) using 32-bit GRUB. You will need to compile GRUB
yourself. The easiest way to accomplish this is to copy the 32-bit UEFI
bootloader from a GParted LiveCD to your Ubuntu LiveUSB media, turn off
Secure Boot on your tablet, and boot Ubuntu. From there you can download
the source for GRUB and compile it for 32-bit.

You can also leave Secure Boot off and just install Ubuntu using the
GRUB from GParted, but I don't recommend this - Secure Boot is an
important feature of your computer that aids in preventing malicious
code from executing pre-boot (e.g. during initial POST operations). If
you compile GRUB for Ubuntu specifically it will use a signed bootloader
that Secure Boot recognizes as trusted.

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2015-08-19 Thread Reimar Döffinger
As a reference and a potential solution to some: The Debian 64-bit
netinstall image (but only that one for some reason!) works with a
32-bit UEFI.

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2015-08-18 Thread jokker
Hello,

Just bought an Acer Switch 10, same issue... No way to boot anything. Anyone 
successful so far?
Tried to disable everything related to booting in the BIOS, downgraded BIOS, 
used rufus + jessie ISO...
Bought an OTG adaptor to have usb stick directly on the tablet micro usb 
port... NOTHING WORKED.
The whole purpose of buying this machine was to actually get Kali 2.0 on it... 
OUCH.
Should I be patient and wait for distros to get compatible one day, or just 
return the device?

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2015-06-07 Thread Reimar Döffinger
Sorry, the command needs to be without -p /EFI/BOOT (that only applies if the 
grub.cfg is there instead of in /boot/grub).
grub-mkimage -o bootia32.efi -O i386-efi ntfs hfs appleldr boot cat efi_gop 
efi_uga elf fat hfsplus iso9660 linux keylayouts memdisk minicmd part_apple 
ext2 extcmd xfs xnu part_bsd part_gpt search search_fs_file chain btrfs 
loadbios loadenv lvm minix minix2 reiserfs memrw mmap msdospart scsi loopback 
normal configfile gzio all_video efi_gop efi_uga gfxterm gettext echo boot 
chain eval ls test sleep png gfxmenu

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2015-06-07 Thread Reimar Döffinger
I'd also like to add my voice on having someone look into it. All it should 
require is running grub-mkimage a second time with -o bootia32.efi -O i386-efi.
To summarize instructions found elsewhere to fix this yourself:
Install grub-efi-ia32-bin
Run something like (a bit unsure about which modules are actually needed):
grub-mkimage -o bootia32.efi -O i386-efi -p /EFI/BOOT ntfs hfs appleldr boot 
cat efi_gop efi_uga elf fat hfsplus iso9660 linux keylayouts memdisk minicmd 
part_apple ext2 extcmd xfs xnu part_bsd part_gpt search search_fs_file chain 
btrfs loadbios loadenv lvm minix minix2 reiserfs memrw mmap msdospart scsi 
loopback normal configfile gzio all_video efi_gop efi_uga gfxterm gettext echo 
boot chain eval ls test sleep png gfxmenu
Then somehow get the bootia32.efi on the boot media in the location where the 
bootx64.efi is located (normally under BOOT/EFI on some FAT16 partition).

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2015-06-01 Thread lchensiang
I've the same issue. I'm using voyo mini PC http://en.myvoyo.com/index.html
I tried to install Ubuntu 13.10, 14.10 and 15.05 and follow the method mention 
from the website, but result is same unable to boot from emmc.

I able to make Ubuntu boot from USB and installed to the emmc, but no
matter how I change the efi and shell command it still not able to boot
from emmc. I checked from the shell it seems every thing ok but could
not understand why it could not boot from emmc.

The eMMC supported latest version 4.5, the ISP PCI device as B0D3F0
(Linux). Secure Boot is disable and secure mode is custom.

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2015-05-07 Thread sgrandi
I've got an aspire switch 10 and I have the same issue.

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2015-03-04 Thread Jörn Schönyan
I've got a Dell Venue 8 Pro (with an Atom Z3735G) and I'm willing to
test. Feel free to get in touch with me when there is support for 32bit
UEFI. I really hope we could do this even for Vivid.

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2015-02-08 Thread userdce
Here is work from Debian developer and it installs Debian on X205:

http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/efi-development/jessie-
upload3/

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2014-12-09 Thread Steven Beer
Why Intel Bay Trail computers have only 32 Bit UEFI firmware... due to a
bug which was corrected in Windows:

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Petition-Started-for-Intel-Atom-Bay-
Trail-Tablets-64-bit-and-Linux-Support-458872.shtml

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2014-12-09 Thread Steven Beer
Same problem with Zotac ZBOX pico mini, unable to install a Debian based
distribution like Ubuntu because no bootia32.efi loader is available on
boot media.

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2014-12-07 Thread Steven Beer
Same problem here with new ASUS F205TA Notebook. BIOS supports only 32
Bit UEFI boot.

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2014-12-07 Thread Dieter Heidelberg
There are s many people with know how, who can make it run:
https://www.happyassassin.net/fedlet-a-fedora-remix-for-bay-trail-
tablets/

Why can't Ubuntu?

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2014-12-07 Thread Dieter Heidelberg
After many tests I am really happy with this Fedora distribution called
Fedlet on my Dell Venue 8 Pro. Wifi, Sound, everything is working!
Please please please make this happen for Ubuntu :D

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2014-12-04 Thread Ekimia
Does anybody working on this ?

Maybe we could just realeaded a 14.04.1 updated spin ?

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2014-12-04 Thread Dieter Heidelberg
I am a little shocked to be honest that no Linux distribution - and
especially Ubuntu - hasn't caught up to this. Especially since those
Intel Atom Laptops and Tablets are so very popular! Makes we wonder how
committed they still are and why this is ignored?

This seems such a simple thing to fix and it is not done! Why aren't all
Ubuntu Live-CDs able to boot 32-bit UEFI hardware by now?

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2014-11-24 Thread Larry Lamb
So... it would be really nice if someone that was able to make this work
post the steps used to find success. As others have posted-- these atom
machines are not going away. I just purchased an ASUS X205TA for $139
and others will sell for $99 very soon. These are great machines for
field work with battery life exceeding 11 hours even using Windows 8.1.
While I have loaded numerous 64-bit servers-- I have not messed with
changing the grub loader and could use a nice step-by-step instruction
doc.  My preference would be a guide for Mint Linux but I assume that
adapting from one base to another would not be impossible. As for an
individual compile I assume that takes away the updates from the
repositories and in either case care would need to be taken to avoid
grub updates. I would even be willing to make a contribution to the
person that gets this to work for everyone. Again-- these atom processrs
are not going away and are very attractive based on price and
portability.  Rebuttal? Takers?

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2014-11-24 Thread dan pinto
In case anyone wants to see an easy guide for getting a 32bit EFI grub
working:

https://github.com/lopaka/instructions/blob/master/ubuntu-14.10-install-
asus-x205ta.md

It worked perfectly for me.

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2014-11-22 Thread dan pinto
I can confirm being able to boot into an Ubuntu 14.10 64bit live usb by
manually adding a 32bit compiled grub2 on my Asus x205ta which has a
64bit Bay Trail Atom CPU but only supports 32bit EFI.

It was able to install ubuntu until the bootloader part. It installed a
64bit EFI bootloader but that wouldn't work. I then tried adding the
same efi I used on the livecd but I just get stuck at grub when I select
it via rEFInd. I attempted to follow some instructions online to load
linux from grub but was unsuccessful.

It would be great to add 32bit UEFI support. My guess is that at minimum
you would need to add a 32bit EFI on the livedisk and in the grub2
installation stage add a check for 32bit only EFI and install 32bit grub
with correct grub configuration. Everything else seemed to worked fine
in the live usb stage when I tested.

I will try see if I can get the grub config figured out on my end this
weekend but I'll need to learn how to set up grub2.

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2014-11-18 Thread thogios
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 102 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/102

Bug confirmed on HP Envy X2

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2014-11-18 Thread Jay Davis
** This bug is no longer a duplicate of bug 102
   Ubuntu i386 images (install media) cannot boot in UEFI mode

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2014-11-18 Thread Jay Davis
Bug #102 deals specifically with the 32-bit version of Ubuntu,
therefore this is not necessarily a duplicate of #102. This bug
report is about installing 64-bit Ubuntu on 64-bit machines with 32-bit
UEFI only. I am unmarking 102 as a duplicate, as that seems to be
complicating the issue.

All that needs to happen here is the 64-bit Ubuntu installer needs to
simply install both the 32-bit and 64-bit Grub UEFI binaries, which UEFI
by design supports natively. I have tested this and can confirm that by
installing both 32- and 64-bit Grub on these machines, I can boot a
64-bit Ubuntu OS. (64-bit Grub is not required to boot, but the key is
that they can coexist in the UEFI directories.)

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2014-11-18 Thread Phillip Susi
The current Linux kernel in Ubuntu 14.04 does support booting the
64-bit signed kernel from a 32-bit Grub EFI bootloader. I can confirm
this on at least two 32-bit UEFI devices, the ASUS Transformer T100TA
and the Acer Aspire Switch 10. Unfortunately, the lack of official
32-bit EFI bootloader support in Ubuntu makes accomplishing this far
from trivial and beyond the capacity of many users new to Linux as an
alternative to Microsoft Windows.

Are you certain?  Collin Watson remarked the other day at a UDS
discussion about this issue that it is not possible to boot a 64 bit
kernel on a 32 bit uefi since it would not be able to make calls into
the 32 bit uefi firmware.  Can you provide a syslog of such a boot?

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2014-11-18 Thread ClairelyClaire
I have an Acer Switch 10 with a 32-bit UEFI. I installed 32-bit UEFI
GRUB and was able to boot 64-bit Ubuntu. It definitely was not 32-bit
Ubuntu - I was specifically using a 64-bit installer/LiveCD.

I can confirm definitively that a machine with 32-bit firmware can
absolutely boot a 64-bit operating system.

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2014-11-18 Thread ClairelyClaire
ETA: whether or not the 64-bit OS can make calls to the 32-bit UEFI
doesn't prevent the OS from booting.

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Re: [Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2014-11-18 Thread Phillip Susi
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On 11/18/2014 12:00 PM, ClairelyClaire wrote:
 ETA: whether or not the 64-bit OS can make calls to the 32-bit
 UEFI doesn't prevent the OS from booting.

Actually, it does.  It has to call on the UEFI firmware to obtain the
system memory map.  Then of course, the installer has to make uefi
calls to point the boot catalog at grub.

So, you booted the 64 bit cd, and manually installed 32 bit grub?  And
that worked fine, including being able to run efibootmgr?  If so then
I guess the kernel is smart enough to thunk the 32 bit firmware calls
and so adding the 32 bit signed grub to the 64 bit cd should be fairly
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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2014-11-18 Thread ClairelyClaire
That's what we've been saying since this ticket - and others like it -
was filed.

It is *confirmed* to be possible to install a 32-bit UEFI GRUB and
install and boot a 64-bit kernel. It's been done multiple times, right
now by manually compiling and using a 32-bit UEFI GRUB bootloader. I
can't speak to the technical reasons *why* it works, but it absolutely,
positively, definitely does work.

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2014-10-13 Thread Vdragon
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 102 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/102

** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 102
   Ubuntu i386 images (install media) cannot boot in UEFI mode

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2014-09-29 Thread Jost Menke
FYI, there are 2 Debian Boot CDs with 32 bit UEFI support:

http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/efi-development/upload4/

debian-wheezy-i386-efi-test4.iso and debian-wheezy-amd64-i386-MA-efi-
test4.iso will usually boot just fine on 32 bit UEFI machines that have
no legacy mode. Maybe Steve McIntyres work can be adapted to create 32
bit UEFI install media for Ubuntu.

PS: This is probably a duplicate of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-
cdimage/+bug/102

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2014-09-27 Thread karan
Even I can confirm the above mentioned bug..
I have recently purchased a NotionInk CAIN Tablet
It has the latest Intel Atom Z3735D Quad Core(Bay Trail) Processor
The tablet(Hybrid) comes pre-installed with 32-bit Windows 8.1

I have tried booting the 64 bit Ubuntu but it doesnt boot because of the
above mentioned bug.

The manual compiling of the 32 bit grub2 bootloader is the only option
left as of now which i'll explore in the coming days.

But it'll be better if the 32bit distributions can come with a
preinsatalled with 32bit UEFI bootloader as day by day more number of
tablets with such requirement are getting released and we would love to
see our favourite Linux distribution running on these tablets..

Thank You..

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2014-09-25 Thread Jost Menke
I can confirm that the new Odys Wintab 10 is also affected. Link to the
product page: http://www.odys.de/web/tablet-pc_wintab10_de.html

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2014-09-25 Thread ClairelyClaire
This is going to continue to be a problem. Its breadth will increase as
more and more people attempt to install Ubuntu on any Atom-based device.

The Intel Atom platform by design uses a 32-bit UEFI environment. These
devices ship with 32-bit Windows 8.1 installed, because 64-bit Windows
uses significantly more disk space and most Atom devices have limited
storage capacity (32GB or 64GB; sometimes as little as 16GB).

Can anyone from the dev team comment on this?

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2014-07-15 Thread Seth Arnold
Thanks for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make Ubuntu
better. We appreciate the difficulties you are facing, but this appears
to be a regular (non-security) bug.  I have unmarked it as a security
issue since this bug does not show evidence of allowing attackers to
cross privilege boundaries nor directly cause loss of data/privacy.
Please feel free to report any other bugs you may find.

** Information type changed from Public Security to Public

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2014-07-15 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

** Changed in: grub2 (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Confirmed

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[Bug 1341944] Re: 32-Bit UEFI bootloader support needed

2014-07-15 Thread Jay Davis
I can confirm this affects me as well. I have an Acer Switch 10 and an
Asus T100. Both of them have the same Intel Atom 64-bit processor, but
require a 32-bit bootloader in order to boot. These machines are UEFI
only and have no legacy BIOS support.

I was able to get Ubuntu 64-bit installed and running by following the
workaround detailed on http://www.jfwhome.com/2014/03/07/perfect-ubuntu-
or-other-linux-on-the-asus-transformer-book-t100/ but after careful
review, it seems that simply adding a 32-bit grubia32.efi or equivalent
to the 64-bit livecd alongside the 64-bit version of the loader, half
the problem is solved. Then it's just a matter of making grubia32 a
default part of the distribution alongside the 64-bit version. UEFI is
designed to load the appropriate .efi for the expected architecture, and
because these low-cost devices ship with 32-bit Windows 8.1 to save
space on the device by eliminating WoW64, the UEFI on these devices
expects a 32-bit bootloader. Linux (including Ubuntu 14.04 and possibly
earlier) supports booting a 64-bit OS from a 32-bit bootloader.

Anecdotally, I learned from a friend of mine that they weren't able to
install Ubuntu on their Core 2 Duo MacBook because the UEFI on their
MacBook wouldn't load the 64-bit version of grub. Turns out some
MacBooks are UEFI-only, have 64-bit CPUs, but require a 32-bit
bootloader just like these newer Atom tablets. I suggested he try
following the workaround listed above.

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