[Bug 1395088] Re: APs with same SSID and support for the same encryption should be merged into one on the network list

2016-01-14 Thread Marcus Tomlinson
** Changed in: indicator-network (Ubuntu)
   Status: Triaged => Fix Released

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[Bug 1395088] Re: APs with same SSID and support for the same encryption should be merged into one on the network list

2015-06-16 Thread Oliver Grawert
erm ... and with OTA-4 that just hit my phone this bug is actually fixed, my bq 
only shows one wlan and roams as expected ...
(how embarrasing !) i guess we can close this bug as fix released ...

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[Bug 1395088] Re: APs with same SSID and support for the same encryption should be merged into one on the network list

2015-06-16 Thread Oliver Grawert
well, all i can say is that no OS in my house (and there are a few in
use) shows me multiple entires for the multiple APs in range, i have
exactly one entry for the whole of the network in all of them.

*NONE* of the other OSes drops off the network if i go up and down the
stairs where the tripping point for switching to another AP is ...

if i go from my living room downstairs to my office upstairs, and have
my ubuntu phone in my pocket it disconnects on the stairs ...

if i open any network management app in any other OS (and even in ubuntu
desktop) i see a single entry for my wlan in all of them ... on the
phone i see one entry per AP ... all i'm asking for is that the phone
behaves like any other OS (and yes i have an old android phone and
checked it, there is exactly one entry for my WLAN in it)

lets please not break behavior, thats all i'm asking for
adding extra annoyances for the user (like disconnecting instead of switching 
APs, showing multiple entries with identical names you cant tell apart in the 
network list etc) *just because* isnt really nice IMHO.

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[Bug 1395088] Re: APs with same SSID and support for the same encryption should be merged into one on the network list

2015-06-16 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
Alleging "you want to break roaming behavior" is unlikely to help solve
whatever the problem is. Unfortunately -- as often happens when the word
"should" appears in a bug summary -- the exact problem was left
unstated. Is it:

(A) That "APs with same SSID and support for the same encryption" are
not treated by Network Manager as a single network with a shared
password etc? If so, the information here doesn't substantiate the bug:
your two APs have the same name but support *different* encryption
options, unlike (for example) the set of identical APs you would find at
a hotel or conference center. And even if the bug is valid, merely
merging the entries in indicator-network probably would not solve the
problem; it would need fixing in Network Manager.

(B) Merely that the list in indicator-network is not "in sync" with the
list in nm-applet, and the inconsistency is irritating? That would be
more likely to be solved by finally shipping indicator-network on PCs
than by changing indicator-network to match nm-applet. For example,
maybe the evil-twin attack is intractable, but if it is tractable,
defending against it will almost certainly mean listing networks even
more differently from how they're listed in nm-applet.

(C) "Roaming behavior", that having set Network Manager to connect to
both APs automatically, it fails to connect to one after going out of
range of the other? If so, that again is a Network Manager bug which
probably would not be fixed by UI changes in indicator-network. Maybe
the bug would happen even if the APs had different names; have you tried
that?

(D) That on your way to the basement or the second floor, you are "not
knowing which one is the basement or the second floor AP" and so can't
choose which one to connect to? That seems least likely to me, because
merging the entries into one would prevent you from choosing one over
the other at all.

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[Bug 1395088] Re: APs with same SSID and support for the same encryption should be merged into one on the network list

2015-06-16 Thread Oliver Grawert
so you want to break roaming behavior that works since more than a
decade this way on all OSes ?

WLANs with the same name and same encryption but multiple APs are a
pretty standard thing, no OS i know distinguishes between the physical
APs in such a setup (and Ubuntu desktop doesn't either today (and never
did))

I would find it personally very annoying if i suddenly had multiple
entries for my existing wlan show up on my laptop (not knowing which one
is the basement or the second floor AP) and would suddenly have to
manually pick the right AP while going up and down the stairs ...

i dont get why we need to break established and "quasi stanrdard"
behavior all of a sudden ...

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[Bug 1395088] Re: APs with same SSID and support for the same encryption should be merged into one on the network list

2015-06-16 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
This seems to be in conflict with bug 1258496, where we want to
prominently distinguish networks that have the same name but differ in
any way, on the grounds that one of them might be an impostor.

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[Bug 1395088] Re: APs with same SSID and support for the same encryption should be merged into one on the network list

2015-06-04 Thread Antti Kaijanmäki
** Changed in: indicator-network (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: Jussi Pakkanen (jpakkane) => (unassigned)

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[Bug 1395088] Re: APs with same SSID and support for the same encryption should be merged into one on the network list

2014-11-25 Thread Antti Kaijanmäki
** Changed in: indicator-network (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Triaged

** Changed in: indicator-network (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Medium

** Changed in: indicator-network (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Jussi Pakkanen (jpakkane)

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