[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for >= vivid

2015-11-11 Thread Mathew Hodson
** Changed in: juju-core (Ubuntu)
Milestone: vivid-updates => None

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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for >= vivid

2015-11-11 Thread Mathew Hodson
** Changed in: juju-core (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for >= vivid

2015-10-15 Thread Curtis Hovey
** Changed in: juju-core (Ubuntu Vivid)
   Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released

** Changed in: juju-core (Ubuntu)
   Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released

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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for >= vivid

2015-10-15 Thread Curtis Hovey
** Changed in: juju-core (Ubuntu Vivid)
   Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released

** Changed in: juju-core (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for >= vivid

2015-10-07 Thread Curtis Hovey
** Changed in: juju-core (Ubuntu Vivid)
   Status: In Progress => Fix Committed

** Changed in: juju-core (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for >= vivid

2015-10-07 Thread Curtis Hovey
** Changed in: juju-core (Ubuntu Vivid)
   Status: In Progress => Fix Committed

** Changed in: juju-core (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid

2015-05-06 Thread Eric Snow
** Tags added: systemd vivid

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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid

2015-05-06 Thread Eric Snow
** Tags added: systemd vivid

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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid

2015-04-20 Thread Martin Pitt
** Changed in: juju-core (Ubuntu Vivid)
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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid

2015-04-20 Thread Martin Pitt
** Changed in: juju-core (Ubuntu Vivid)
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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid

2015-03-31 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
I also don't understand why this is marked Fix Released, upstream I only
see systemd/centos support and no systemd/ubuntu support. I see code
that assumes ubuntu == upstart.

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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid

2015-03-31 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
I also don't understand why this is marked Fix Released, upstream I only
see systemd/centos support and no systemd/ubuntu support. I see code
that assumes ubuntu == upstart.

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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid

2015-03-31 Thread Martin Pitt
https://github.com/juju/juju/commit/2ae93fe45df4b95bedf493adc07ee7049859fb2d
also has some serious deficiencies, see Dimitri's comments.

** Changed in: juju-core (Ubuntu Vivid)
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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid

2015-03-31 Thread Martin Pitt
https://github.com/juju/juju/commit/2ae93fe45df4b95bedf493adc07ee7049859fb2d
also has some serious deficiencies, see Dimitri's comments.

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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid

2015-03-30 Thread Martin Pitt
** Changed in: juju-core (Ubuntu Vivid)
Milestone: ubuntu-15.01 = ubuntu-15.04

** Changed in: juju-core (Ubuntu Vivid)
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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid

2015-03-30 Thread Martin Pitt
** Changed in: juju-core (Ubuntu Vivid)
Milestone: ubuntu-15.01 = ubuntu-15.04

** Changed in: juju-core (Ubuntu Vivid)
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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid

2015-03-20 Thread Curtis Hovey
** Changed in: juju-core
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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid

2015-03-20 Thread Curtis Hovey
** Changed in: juju-core
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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid

2015-03-17 Thread Sean Feole
** Tags added: hs-arm64

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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid

2015-03-17 Thread Sean Feole
** Tags added: hs-arm64

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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid

2015-03-12 Thread Eric Snow
It will also be worth looking into the impact of systemd on existing
charms that get published for vivid.

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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid

2015-03-12 Thread Martin Pitt
Thanks Robie for the summary. For the record, if you want to continue
running the DEP-8 tests in an upstart environment under vivid, you can
do that at the top of your test:

if [ -d /run/systemd/system ]; then
if [ ! -x /tmp/autopkgtest-reboot ]; then
echo SKIP: testbed does not support reboot
exit 0
fi
if [ -n ${ADT_REBOOT_MARK:-} ]; then
echo SKIP: Reboot with upstart still runs systemd; using init= ?
exit 0
fi
echo Installing upstart...
apt-get install -y upstart
echo Rebooting into upstart...
/tmp/autopkgtest-reboot b1
fi

(That's what I put into systemd-shim's tests, which also only run under
upstart)

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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid

2015-03-12 Thread Robie Basak
** Description changed:

+ [Status]
+ 
+ The status of Juju and systemd need to be considered in three separate
+ scenarios:
+ 
+ A: A system administrator running the Juju client. For example, managing
+ a deployment somewhere else from your laptop.
+ 
+ B: Running within a deployment itself (the bootstrap node and all other
+ deployed nodes). This is the Juju that runs a production workload.
+ 
+ C: Developing charms using the local provider. This is really a special
+ case combining A and B.
+ 
+ The status of systemd and Juju in these scenarios is as follows:
+ 
+ A: Not affected. The client does not integrate with any init system, so
+ works fine under both upstart and systemd.
+ 
+ B: Affected (when deploying private Vivid charms). Juju will support
+ systemd from version 1.23 (yet to be released). Existing deployments are
+ not affected, since all existing Ubuntu releases run upstart. Deploying
+ onto Vivid is affected, since it will now run systemd, and will continue
+ to be affected after Vivid's release without further action. Workaround
+ for developers: arrange for deployed Vivid nodes to run upstart.
+ 
+ C: Affected (on Vivid only), until scenario B is fixed.
+ 
+ Schedule:
+ 
+ The first beta of 1.23 is expected 2015-03-18 and will provide full
+ systemd support. It will be available from a devel PPA. 1.23 is expected
+ to be released the week of 2015-03-30. It will be available from the
+ standard Juju stable PPA and will be uploaded to Vivid. In time, Trusty
+ will be updated too, although this has not yet been scheduled.
+ 
+ Archive status:
+ 
+ Currently no plans to upload 1.23 betas to Vivid. 1.23 will be uploaded
+ once it is released.
+ 
+ Until this time, dep8 tests are failing against juju-core as they test
+ scenario C, now in a systemd environment.
+ 
+ [Original Description]
+ 
  Ubuntu is currently working on switching its default init system from
  upstart to systemd; this has a direct impact on juju-core, which
  generates upstart configurations for the daemons that it runs across a
  deployment.
  
  The current target for switchover is the end of Jan/start of Feb, so it
  would be nice if we had a juju that supported this by then (at least in
  development).

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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid

2015-03-12 Thread Robie Basak
** Description changed:

+ [Status]
+ 
+ The status of Juju and systemd need to be considered in three separate
+ scenarios:
+ 
+ A: A system administrator running the Juju client. For example, managing
+ a deployment somewhere else from your laptop.
+ 
+ B: Running within a deployment itself (the bootstrap node and all other
+ deployed nodes). This is the Juju that runs a production workload.
+ 
+ C: Developing charms using the local provider. This is really a special
+ case combining A and B.
+ 
+ The status of systemd and Juju in these scenarios is as follows:
+ 
+ A: Not affected. The client does not integrate with any init system, so
+ works fine under both upstart and systemd.
+ 
+ B: Affected (when deploying private Vivid charms). Juju will support
+ systemd from version 1.23 (yet to be released). Existing deployments are
+ not affected, since all existing Ubuntu releases run upstart. Deploying
+ onto Vivid is affected, since it will now run systemd, and will continue
+ to be affected after Vivid's release without further action. Workaround
+ for developers: arrange for deployed Vivid nodes to run upstart.
+ 
+ C: Affected (on Vivid only), until scenario B is fixed.
+ 
+ Schedule:
+ 
+ The first beta of 1.23 is expected 2015-03-18 and will provide full
+ systemd support. It will be available from a devel PPA. 1.23 is expected
+ to be released the week of 2015-03-30. It will be available from the
+ standard Juju stable PPA and will be uploaded to Vivid. In time, Trusty
+ will be updated too, although this has not yet been scheduled.
+ 
+ Archive status:
+ 
+ Currently no plans to upload 1.23 betas to Vivid. 1.23 will be uploaded
+ once it is released.
+ 
+ Until this time, dep8 tests are failing against juju-core as they test
+ scenario C, now in a systemd environment.
+ 
+ [Original Description]
+ 
  Ubuntu is currently working on switching its default init system from
  upstart to systemd; this has a direct impact on juju-core, which
  generates upstart configurations for the daemons that it runs across a
  deployment.
  
  The current target for switchover is the end of Jan/start of Feb, so it
  would be nice if we had a juju that supported this by then (at least in
  development).

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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid

2015-03-12 Thread Martin Pitt
Thanks Robie for the summary. For the record, if you want to continue
running the DEP-8 tests in an upstart environment under vivid, you can
do that at the top of your test:

if [ -d /run/systemd/system ]; then
if [ ! -x /tmp/autopkgtest-reboot ]; then
echo SKIP: testbed does not support reboot
exit 0
fi
if [ -n ${ADT_REBOOT_MARK:-} ]; then
echo SKIP: Reboot with upstart still runs systemd; using init= ?
exit 0
fi
echo Installing upstart...
apt-get install -y upstart
echo Rebooting into upstart...
/tmp/autopkgtest-reboot b1
fi

(That's what I put into systemd-shim's tests, which also only run under
upstart)

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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid

2015-03-11 Thread Robie Basak
We have 1.20.14 in Vivid at the moment, and dep8 tests are now failing.
I believe this is because the systemd switch has happened, and it cannot
find upstart.

Which upstream release are you expecting us to pull in to Vivid to fix
this please?

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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid

2015-03-11 Thread Robie Basak
We have 1.20.14 in Vivid at the moment, and dep8 tests are now failing.
I believe this is because the systemd switch has happened, and it cannot
find upstart.

Which upstream release are you expecting us to pull in to Vivid to fix
this please?

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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid

2015-03-11 Thread Martin Pitt
 Which upstream release are you expecting us to pull in to Vivid to fix
this please?

As Juju has a newer versions allowed exception even for stables, that
should equally apply to the current development series. So while I'm not
officially in ~ubuntu-release, I'd say whichever one works is an
acceptable answer? (Not sure whether I misunderstood the question)

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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid

2015-03-11 Thread Martin Pitt
 Which upstream release are you expecting us to pull in to Vivid to fix
this please?

As Juju has a newer versions allowed exception even for stables, that
should equally apply to the current development series. So while I'm not
officially in ~ubuntu-release, I'd say whichever one works is an
acceptable answer? (Not sure whether I misunderstood the question)

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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid

2015-03-10 Thread Antonio Rosales
@Eric,

Thanks for the comment. To confirm is this still on track for 1.23 and
the Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid) release?

-thanks,
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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid

2015-03-10 Thread Antonio Rosales
@Eric,

Thanks for the comment. To confirm is this still on track for 1.23 and
the Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid) release?

-thanks,
Antonio

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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid

2015-03-10 Thread Eric Snow
It will also be worth looking into the impact of systemd on existing
charms that get published for vivid.

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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid

2015-03-10 Thread Eric Snow
the last of the patches to add systemd support in juju (including on
vivid) has landed.  There are a couple of caveats we need to look into
though:

* vivid LXC containers on non-vivid hosts don't work correctly out of the box.  
This has an impact on local provider (I've been testing in a vivid KVM).  See 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxc/+bug/1347020
* vivid (and later) may be configured to boot with upstart (e.g. after an 
upgrade?).  We are looking at adding a feature flag to support that use case 
(which I expect will be an uncommon one).

** Changed in: juju-core
   Status: In Progress = Fix Committed

** Changed in: juju-core
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Eric Snow (ericsnowcurrently)

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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid

2015-03-10 Thread Eric Snow
the last of the patches to add systemd support in juju (including on
vivid) has landed.  There are a couple of caveats we need to look into
though:

* vivid LXC containers on non-vivid hosts don't work correctly out of the box.  
This has an impact on local provider (I've been testing in a vivid KVM).  See 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxc/+bug/1347020
* vivid (and later) may be configured to boot with upstart (e.g. after an 
upgrade?).  We are looking at adding a feature flag to support that use case 
(which I expect will be an uncommon one).

** Changed in: juju-core
   Status: In Progress = Fix Committed

** Changed in: juju-core
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Eric Snow (ericsnowcurrently)

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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid

2015-03-10 Thread Eric Snow
** Changed in: juju-core
Milestone: 1.23 = 1.23-beta1

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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid

2015-03-10 Thread Eric Snow
** Changed in: juju-core
Milestone: 1.23 = 1.23-beta1

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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid

2015-03-02 Thread Eric Snow
We've landed a patch for systemd support in juju.  We are currently
working through a couple of minor bugs before calling it good.

** Changed in: juju-core
   Status: Triaged = In Progress

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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid

2015-03-02 Thread Eric Snow
We've landed a patch for systemd support in juju.  We are currently
working through a couple of minor bugs before calling it good.

** Changed in: juju-core
   Status: Triaged = In Progress

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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid

2015-01-15 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
Looking at http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/671/ it looks very bad.

Please use DBus api to talk to systemd.

Or use golang-go-systemd-dev to operate against systemd.

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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid

2015-01-15 Thread Eric Snow
Right now we (juju core) are scoping out the effort to add systemd
support to juju in time for the feature freeze.  We'll update here as we
move forward.

Note that, as Andrew said, we have some of the work done already (though
not merged yet).  It's likely the trickiest part, so the remainder of
the work should be of the add-systemd-support-wherever-we-support-
upstart variety.  Also note that our upstart configs are dynamically
generated.

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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid

2015-01-15 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
Looking at http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/671/ it looks very bad.

Please use DBus api to talk to systemd.

Or use golang-go-systemd-dev to operate against systemd.

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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid

2015-01-15 Thread Eric Snow
Right now we (juju core) are scoping out the effort to add systemd
support to juju in time for the feature freeze.  We'll update here as we
move forward.

Note that, as Andrew said, we have some of the work done already (though
not merged yet).  It's likely the trickiest part, so the remainder of
the work should be of the add-systemd-support-wherever-we-support-
upstart variety.  Also note that our upstart configs are dynamically
generated.

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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid

2015-01-12 Thread Andrew Wilkins
Systemd support is currently under development, primarily to support
CentOS: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/671/

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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid

2015-01-12 Thread Andrew Wilkins
(I should have added: but will support Ubuntu, with a couple of minor
adjustments)

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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid

2015-01-12 Thread Andrew Wilkins
(I should have added: but will support Ubuntu, with a couple of minor
adjustments)

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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid

2015-01-12 Thread Martin Pitt
** Tags added: systemd-boot

** Also affects: juju-core (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: juju-core (Ubuntu)
Milestone: None = ubuntu-15.01

** Changed in: juju-core (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Triaged

** Changed in: juju-core (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = High

** Also affects: juju-core (Ubuntu Vivid)
   Importance: High
   Status: Triaged

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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid

2015-01-12 Thread Martin Pitt
** Tags added: systemd-boot

** Also affects: juju-core (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: juju-core (Ubuntu)
Milestone: None = ubuntu-15.01

** Changed in: juju-core (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Triaged

** Changed in: juju-core (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = High

** Also affects: juju-core (Ubuntu Vivid)
   Importance: High
   Status: Triaged

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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid

2015-01-12 Thread Andrew Wilkins
Systemd support is currently under development, primarily to support
CentOS: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/671/

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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid

2015-01-12 Thread Martin Pitt
Feature freeze isn't until Mid-February, so any new feature can be put
into the vivid package without problems by then. Even after that this
will certainly get a freeze exception as this is a release goal. But as
this apparently blocks OpenStack deployment/testing (said James Page),
we'd probably backport this before feature freeze once it lands in
trunk.

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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid

2015-01-12 Thread Martin Pitt
Feature freeze isn't until Mid-February, so any new feature can be put
into the vivid package without problems by then. Even after that this
will certainly get a freeze exception as this is a release goal. But as
this apparently blocks OpenStack deployment/testing (said James Page),
we'd probably backport this before feature freeze once it lands in
trunk.

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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid

2015-01-12 Thread Curtis Hovey
We have frozen juju 1.22. We expect it to ship with vivid. This feature
will need to be back-ported. How does Ubuntu feel about adding a feature
to 1.22.1? If this is bad, then we will wait for 1.23 to be backported
to w, v and t.

** Changed in: juju-core
Milestone: None = 1.23

** Changed in: juju-core
   Status: New = Triaged

** Changed in: juju-core
   Importance: Undecided = High

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[Bug 1409639] Re: juju needs to support systemd for = vivid

2015-01-12 Thread Curtis Hovey
We have frozen juju 1.22. We expect it to ship with vivid. This feature
will need to be back-ported. How does Ubuntu feel about adding a feature
to 1.22.1? If this is bad, then we will wait for 1.23 to be backported
to w, v and t.

** Changed in: juju-core
Milestone: None = 1.23

** Changed in: juju-core
   Status: New = Triaged

** Changed in: juju-core
   Importance: Undecided = High

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