[Bug 1439006] Re: Install Fcitx for Japanese users

2015-06-14 Thread Nobuto Murata
 Personally I don't think gyp would cause a lot trouble and the main
problem would be the dependency to framework libraries. Would it be
possible to split the package into two sources or something like that so
we are able build only ibus/fcitx support from a source that's OK to
MIR? I don't think we want to MIR all of the frameworks.

Just dropping uim support in Ubuntu by dropping d/p/uim-mozc.patch and
build-depends:libuim-dev is a good option, IMO. I tried it a few months
ago[1] and found it was useful to keep a diff from Debian minimal.

[1]
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~nobuto/ubuntu/vivid/mozc/mir/revision/44

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[Bug 1439006] Re: Install Fcitx for Japanese users

2015-06-14 Thread Aron Xu
Personally I don't think gyp would cause a lot trouble and the main
problem would be the dependency to framework libraries. Would it be
possible to split the package into two sources or something like that so
we are able build only ibus/fcitx support from a source that's OK to
MIR? I don't think we want to MIR all of the frameworks.

I'll have a look at kkc soon, but if mozc is preferred we'd better to
find a solution rather than applying a work around, :)

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[Bug 1439006] Re: Install Fcitx for Japanese users

2015-06-13 Thread Nobuto Murata
@Aron,

I'm not sure about the future including Desktop Next or convergence,
however I believe it's still worthy to have Mozc as default for the time
being. The engine itself is well maintained by Google team as
Mozc/Google Japanese Input(It's like a Chromium/Chrome relation) in
upstream, and popular on Windows, Linux and Android with no doubt.

Up until now, we didn't bring Mozc to MIR because it has a wide
dependencies. Now that fcitx is in main, a big remaining depedency is
gyp. It would be great if Desktop team is positive to maintain it.

@Ikuya, your input is more than welcome.

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[Bug 1439006] Re: Install Fcitx for Japanese users

2015-06-13 Thread Ikuya Awashiro
@aron, yes, it is true that Mozc conversion engine is the *best* for Japanese 
input.
I always use Mozc instead of Anthy.
Mozc is default conversion engine on Ubuntu Japanese Remix which is our team is 
released. 
Anthy is stopped to develop for a long time.

But I think it is hard to pass MIR because Mozc has a lot of dependency.
http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/wily/mozc

So I think libkkc is *better* than Anthy and it is not difficult to pass MIR 
rather than Mozc.
http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/wily/libkkc

fcitx-kkc is now in menters.debian.net as you know.
https://mentors.debian.net/package/fcitx-kkc

Thanks,

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[Bug 1439006] Re: Install Fcitx for Japanese users

2015-06-13 Thread Aron Xu
@ikuya, I have a question when revisiting this bug, that is how do you
evaluate the possibility of using mozc engine as default, rather than
anthy? I'm not a user of either because I don't type in Japanese, but
there's quite a few hints that show mozc is much more advanced than the
aged anthy.

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[Bug 1439006] Re: Install Fcitx for Japanese users

2015-05-09 Thread Aron Xu
** Summary changed:

- [FFe] Install Fcitx for Japanese users
+ Install Fcitx for Japanese users

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