[Bug 1457753] Re: smbclient not installed by default 15.04 and newer
[Expired for samba (Ubuntu) because there has been no activity for 60 days.] ** Changed in: samba (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = Expired -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1457753 Title: smbclient not installed by default 15.04 and newer To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/1457753/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1457753] Re: smbclient not installed by default 15.04 and newer
[Expired for samba (Ubuntu) because there has been no activity for 60 days.] ** Changed in: samba (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = Expired -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1457753 Title: smbclient not installed by default 15.04 and newer To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/1457753/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1457753] Re: smbclient not installed by default 15.04 and newer
Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make Ubuntu better. Personally I don't mind either way. Users who need smbclient generally know they need it and so should be able to install it themselves. Changing this kind of default between releases isn't really a regression - the point of new releases is to be able to change defaults like this. If you really want this changed, first this needs to be checked on Debian to see if it is an Ubuntu-only issue or not. If this does turn out to apply to Debian too, then I think it is most likely a deliberate design decision and a justification to change it back would need to be made in Debian. I'll mark the Ubuntu task Won't Fix since: 1) I think it is most likely a deliberate change in Debian, therefore not a bug, and not something we'd consider changing directly in Ubuntu over Debian's decision without further justification; and 2) I think it's therefore unlikely that this change will ever happen in Ubuntu, there's little point in keeping a bug open about it, and keeping the bug open gives others misleading expectations. I would be happy for this bug to be re-opened though if any of my assumptions are wrong or if a real reason to change it comes to light. ** Changed in: samba (Ubuntu) Status: New = Won't Fix -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1457753 Title: smbclient not installed by default 15.04 and newer To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/1457753/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1457753] Re: smbclient not installed by default 15.04 and newer
I should make it clear that if Debian change it, then Ubuntu will likely follow. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1457753 Title: smbclient not installed by default 15.04 and newer To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/1457753/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1457753] Re: smbclient not installed by default 15.04 and newer
I should make it clear that if Debian change it, then Ubuntu will likely follow. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1457753 Title: smbclient not installed by default 15.04 and newer To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/1457753/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1457753] Re: smbclient not installed by default 15.04 and newer
Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make Ubuntu better. Personally I don't mind either way. Users who need smbclient generally know they need it and so should be able to install it themselves. Changing this kind of default between releases isn't really a regression - the point of new releases is to be able to change defaults like this. If you really want this changed, first this needs to be checked on Debian to see if it is an Ubuntu-only issue or not. If this does turn out to apply to Debian too, then I think it is most likely a deliberate design decision and a justification to change it back would need to be made in Debian. I'll mark the Ubuntu task Won't Fix since: 1) I think it is most likely a deliberate change in Debian, therefore not a bug, and not something we'd consider changing directly in Ubuntu over Debian's decision without further justification; and 2) I think it's therefore unlikely that this change will ever happen in Ubuntu, there's little point in keeping a bug open about it, and keeping the bug open gives others misleading expectations. I would be happy for this bug to be re-opened though if any of my assumptions are wrong or if a real reason to change it comes to light. ** Changed in: samba (Ubuntu) Status: New = Won't Fix -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1457753 Title: smbclient not installed by default 15.04 and newer To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/1457753/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1457753] Re: smbclient not installed by default 15.04 and newer
smbclient -L localhost smbclient -L localhost Enter cariboo's password: Domain=[WORKGROUP] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 4.1.17-Ubuntu] Sharename Type Comment - --- print$ Disk Printer Drivers IPC$IPC IPC Service (alexis server (Samba, Ubuntu)) printer Printer EPSON Stylus Photo R340 Brother-HL-5250DN-series Printer Brother HL-5250DN series Public Disk Domain=[WORKGROUP] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 4.1.17-Ubuntu] Server Comment ---- ALEXIS alexis server (Samba, Ubuntu) BRN_89A329 SKYNET skynet server (Samba, Ubuntu) WorkgroupMaster ---- APLUSWILLY WORKGROUPALEXI -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1457753 Title: smbclient not installed by default 15.04 and newer To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/1457753/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1457753] Re: smbclient not installed by default 15.04 and newer
smbclient -L localhost smbclient -L localhost Enter cariboo's password: Domain=[WORKGROUP] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 4.1.17-Ubuntu] Sharename Type Comment - --- print$ Disk Printer Drivers IPC$IPC IPC Service (alexis server (Samba, Ubuntu)) printer Printer EPSON Stylus Photo R340 Brother-HL-5250DN-series Printer Brother HL-5250DN series Public Disk Domain=[WORKGROUP] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 4.1.17-Ubuntu] Server Comment ---- ALEXIS alexis server (Samba, Ubuntu) BRN_89A329 SKYNET skynet server (Samba, Ubuntu) WorkgroupMaster ---- APLUSWILLY WORKGROUPALEXI -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1457753 Title: smbclient not installed by default 15.04 and newer To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/1457753/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1457753] Re: smbclient not installed by default 15.04 and newer
Then again, if we wanted Debian, we would just install Debian. The problem as i understand it was that Ubutnu is offering this feature via GUI, but a component needed for the GUi in Ubuntu to work is missing. Software is therefore not acting as expected or as indicated that it is supposed to act. Therefore in my opinion it is a bug. The solution to that (and to keep it in line with Debian) would be to offer the install of missing package when the user would try to perform the desired action. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1457753 Title: smbclient not installed by default 15.04 and newer To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/1457753/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1457753] Re: smbclient not installed by default 15.04 and newer
Then again, if we wanted Debian, we would just install Debian. The problem as i understand it was that Ubutnu is offering this feature via GUI, but a component needed for the GUi in Ubuntu to work is missing. Software is therefore not acting as expected or as indicated that it is supposed to act. Therefore in my opinion it is a bug. The solution to that (and to keep it in line with Debian) would be to offer the install of missing package when the user would try to perform the desired action. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1457753 Title: smbclient not installed by default 15.04 and newer To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/1457753/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1457753] Re: smbclient not installed by default 15.04 and newer
On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 10:59:44AM -, Gregor wrote: The problem as i understand it was that Ubutnu is offering this feature via GUI, but a component needed for the GUi in Ubuntu to work is missing. Software is therefore not acting as expected or as indicated that it is supposed to act. Therefore in my opinion it is a bug. That's fine, but then the bug is GUI feature X is shipped by default but doesn't work by default, not smbclient not installed by default. It could be fixed by adding smbclient as a dependency on the package that ships feature X. We can convert this bug and reopen it, but please provide details of feature X so that we can work on it on that basis. The solution to that (and to keep it in line with Debian) would be to offer the install of missing package when the user would try to perform the desired action. That's another option. Please provide details of the problem itself, rather than pre-supposing a solution. Once you have provided these details, please change the bug status back to New. ** Changed in: samba (Ubuntu) Status: Won't Fix = Incomplete -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1457753 Title: smbclient not installed by default 15.04 and newer To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/1457753/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1457753] Re: smbclient not installed by default 15.04 and newer
On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 10:59:44AM -, Gregor wrote: The problem as i understand it was that Ubutnu is offering this feature via GUI, but a component needed for the GUi in Ubuntu to work is missing. Software is therefore not acting as expected or as indicated that it is supposed to act. Therefore in my opinion it is a bug. That's fine, but then the bug is GUI feature X is shipped by default but doesn't work by default, not smbclient not installed by default. It could be fixed by adding smbclient as a dependency on the package that ships feature X. We can convert this bug and reopen it, but please provide details of feature X so that we can work on it on that basis. The solution to that (and to keep it in line with Debian) would be to offer the install of missing package when the user would try to perform the desired action. That's another option. Please provide details of the problem itself, rather than pre-supposing a solution. Once you have provided these details, please change the bug status back to New. ** Changed in: samba (Ubuntu) Status: Won't Fix = Incomplete -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1457753 Title: smbclient not installed by default 15.04 and newer To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/1457753/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
