[Bug 1466926] Re: reload apache2 with mpm_event cause scoreboard is full

2022-02-10 Thread Sergio Durigan Junior
Xenial has reached its end of standard support.

** Changed in: apache2 (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Status: Triaged => Won't Fix

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[Bug 1466926] Re: reload apache2 with mpm_event cause scoreboard is full

2020-06-24 Thread Christian Ehrhardt 
** Tags removed: server-next

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[Bug 1466926] Re: reload apache2 with mpm_event cause scoreboard is full

2018-04-03 Thread ChristianEhrhardt
** Changed in: apache2 (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Status: Fix Committed => Triaged

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[Bug 1466926] Re: reload apache2 with mpm_event cause scoreboard is full

2018-04-03 Thread ChristianEhrhardt
Note: removed from proposed

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[Bug 1466926] Re: reload apache2 with mpm_event cause scoreboard is full

2018-04-03 Thread ChristianEhrhardt
Thanks a lot hloeung for trying in that environment.
This is exactly what we needed.

Too bad thou for the fix, the TL;DR now is:
- there is an issue if users/scripts reload apache too often (bad practice but 
existing)
- we have backported the fix that is upstream and tested, but tests show that 
this will cause new issues in the SRU environment

For the SRU perspective there are four things now:
a) - backport the upstream fix and check for regressions - we tried that and 
failed

b) - One could start identifying more upstream changes related, but to
be honest that will end up considering a backport of a full new apache2
release to Xenial (with probably even more potential fallout, not in
terms of stability but e.g. need to adapt configs) -> not going to
happen IMHO

c) - Usually we would try to identify a smaller subset of the fix that
is more SRUable but this doesn't apply to this case -> So not going to
happen either

d) - those (few) affected need to adapt their environment to not call reload so 
often
 The most likely outcome for now :-/

e) - One could get creative
 What would get to my mind is for example a rate limiting on the reloads.
 One would have to wait up to x time, and collect all requests until that 
time, then one 
 reload would happen and all would return.
 But that is fixing a symptom and would (if done at apache2) surely affect 
some things out 
 there that expect it to be immediately.
 So even for these cases fixing the environment that does the high reload 
counts is more 
 wise, as there the special cases can better be considered.

In terms of an "overall user base SRU tradeoff" it feels safer to recommend 
those affected to fix the environment, instead of forcing that onto everyone.
So for now, until one has a better idea I'm sadly feeling I have to set this to 
"won't fix" for now.

@SRU Team - could one cancel the current upload from x-proposed?

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[Bug 1466926] Re: reload apache2 with mpm_event cause scoreboard is full

2018-03-26 Thread Haw Loeung
We ran with the apache2 package from xenial-proposed on one of the main
Ubuntu Archive servers. It's quite high traffic and what we saw was that
there's quite a lot of processes being killed off (mixture of both
SIGTERM and SIGKILL).

Unfortunately, it was quite user noticeable and we've had to revert.

See error logs for that time period -
https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Pnzr2R7SFv/

** Tags removed: verification-needed verification-needed-xenial
** Tags added: verification-failed verification-failed-xenial

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[Bug 1466926] Re: reload apache2 with mpm_event cause scoreboard is full

2018-03-22 Thread Łukasz Zemczak
Hello Branislav, or anyone else affected,

Accepted apache2 into xenial-proposed. The package will build now and be
available at
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apache2/2.4.18-2ubuntu3.6 in a few
hours, and then in the -proposed repository.

Please help us by testing this new package.  See
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed for documentation on how
to enable and use -proposed.Your feedback will aid us getting this
update out to other Ubuntu users.

If this package fixes the bug for you, please add a comment to this bug,
mentioning the version of the package you tested and change the tag from
verification-needed-xenial to verification-done-xenial. If it does not
fix the bug for you, please add a comment stating that, and change the
tag to verification-failed-xenial. In either case, without details of
your testing we will not be able to proceed.

Further information regarding the verification process can be found at
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/PerformingSRUVerification .  Thank you in
advance!

** Description changed:

  [Impact]
  
-  * apache2 reload can fill up the scorecard with graceful reastarting 
-workers to an amount that it is unable to serve more requests.
+  * apache2 reload can fill up the scorecard with graceful reastarting
+    workers to an amount that it is unable to serve more requests.
  
-  * Backport fix from upstream to avoid the issue
+  * Backport fix from upstream to avoid the issue
  
  [Test Case]
  
-  * In commend #8 I outlined some steps to fill up the scorecard with 
-Gracefully stopping processes. But that never triggered the reported 
-bug of eventually breaking new requests for me (It is still good to 
-verify some busy tests on this part of the apache code)
--> Therefore one of the reporters of the bug tested the ppa quite a 
-   while on his main machines that formerly were affected by the issue.
--> no clear "do this then X happens" test case steps
+  * In comment #8 I outlined some steps to fill up the scorecard with
+    Gracefully stopping processes. But that never triggered the reported
+    bug of eventually breaking new requests for me (It is still good to
+    verify some busy tests on this part of the apache code)
+    -> Therefore one of the reporters of the bug tested the ppa quite a
+   while on his main machines that formerly were affected by the issue.
+    -> no clear "do this then X happens" test case steps
+  * Perform arbitrary additional functional tests on the package to make sure 
no regressions are visible
  
  [Regression Potential]
  
-  * It is a rather complex code change in the mpm event handling.
-Only the first change is to code, the other two are for the 
-documentation to match.
-We tested some apache benchmarks to check the effect, but found neither 
-a positive nor negative impact in general (other than the bug being 
-resolved). Yet if people rely on very specific behavior of the mpm 
-handling that might change a bit.
-It will change for the good of it, but always remember xkcd.com/1172
-   
-TL;DR: IMHO it clearly has a ">none" regression potential on the mpm 
-event handling
+  * It is a rather complex code change in the mpm event handling.
+    Only the first change is to code, the other two are for the
+    documentation to match.
+    We tested some apache benchmarks to check the effect, but found neither
+    a positive nor negative impact in general (other than the bug being
+    resolved). Yet if people rely on very specific behavior of the mpm
+    handling that might change a bit.
+    It will change for the good of it, but always remember xkcd.com/1172
  
+    TL;DR: IMHO it clearly has a ">none" regression potential on the mpm
+    event handling
  
  [Other Info]
-  
-  * Since this is hard to test we had a 2+ week test on the ppa, see 
-comments c#8 - c#15
  
-  * It clearly is a fix for some (e.g. the reporter of the bug), but I'd 
-understand if the SRU Team would rate it as feature and deny it for an 
-SRU - depends on the POV, certainly worth to be reviewed at least.
+  * Since this is hard to test we had a 2+ week test on the ppa, see
+    comments c#8 - c#15
  
+  * It clearly is a fix for some (e.g. the reporter of the bug), but I'd
+    understand if the SRU Team would rate it as feature and deny it for an
+    SRU - depends on the POV, certainly worth to be reviewed at least.
  
  
- 
  
  On the clean install Ubuntu 14.04 with Apache without almost any client
  load the Apache server with the command "service apache2 reload" itself
  allocates slots marked with "Gracefully finishing" for which rejects new
  connections.
  
  For full rejection of new requests is sufficient to perform 4x command
  "service apache2 reload".
  
  Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS
  Apache 2.4.7-ubuntu4.4 (mpm_event)
  Kernel 2.16.0-30-generic
  
  Reproduce problem:
  #
  1/ service apache2 start
  _

[Bug 1466926] Re: reload apache2 with mpm_event cause scoreboard is full

2018-03-22 Thread Łukasz Zemczak
With the additional rationale and context I have accepted the apache2
upload into xenial-proposed. But since the change is rather big, please
be sure to do additional exploratory testing of the packages. I would
also request this to age in -proposed for slightly longer than just 7
days, if possible.

Thanks!

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[Bug 1466926] Re: reload apache2 with mpm_event cause scoreboard is full

2018-03-13 Thread Haw Loeung
We ran into this with the main Ubuntu Archive servers
(archive.ubuntu.com). They were only configured to reload/graceful on
log rotation. Basically workers were held up and eventually all full and
not servicing requests.

We've now switched from MPM event to worker but would like this
backported so we can switch back to event.

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Re: [Bug 1466926] Re: reload apache2 with mpm_event cause scoreboard is full

2018-03-13 Thread Felipe Reyes
On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 06:25:35AM -, ChristianEhrhardt wrote:
> Hi Łukasz,
> that is a fair set of questions, but I'm not a high profile webserver admin 
> either to give you better answers.
> 
> We have a few active bug reporters that are affected subscribed, maybe
> they can try to answer the SRU Teams (=Łukasz in this case) questions?

This issue was brought to us some months ago by a Ubuntu Advantage user,
because one of the OpenStack charms (IIRC the keystone charm) was
reloading the configuration often enough to trigger this problem. I
don't have more details than those as I was not actively working on the
issue.

Also is a common (bad?) practice in configuration management software to
reload configurations often, some are better written and reload only
when it's needed, but I've seen a fair amount of sysadmin's scripts
where calling "reload" is considered a cheap and harmless operation.

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[Bug 1466926] Re: reload apache2 with mpm_event cause scoreboard is full

2018-03-12 Thread ChristianEhrhardt
Hi Łukasz,
that is a fair set of questions, but I'm not a high profile webserver admin 
either to give you better answers.

We have a few active bug reporters that are affected subscribed, maybe
they can try to answer the SRU Teams (=Łukasz in this case) questions?

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[Bug 1466926] Re: reload apache2 with mpm_event cause scoreboard is full

2018-03-12 Thread Łukasz Zemczak
With my SRU hat on I am a bit reluctant about accepting this into
xenial. Don't get me wrong: I'm not saying no, but it's certainly
something I need to know a bit more about to make a proper decision.

The reported problem of course does seem like a bug, but my doubts come
from the complexity of the required changes more than anything else. The
backported commit for code changes itself seems to be  149 additions and
181 deletions + documentation changes. The changes look a bit invasive,
I would like to learn more on how severe this issue is. Is it worth the
risk for a bug that's currently set to importance Medium? How frequently
does this affect users? From what the reporter mentions there is some
working workaround for the problem - does it have any shortcomings?

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[Bug 1466926] Re: reload apache2 with mpm_event cause scoreboard is full

2018-02-26 Thread ChristianEhrhardt
SRU Template prepared and uploaded for the SRU Teams consideration.

** Description changed:

+ [Impact]
+ 
+  * apache2 reload can fill up the scorecard with graceful reastarting 
+workers to an amount that it is unable to serve more requests.
+ 
+  * Backport fix from upstream to avoid the issue
+ 
+ [Test Case]
+ 
+  * In commend #8 I outlined some steps to fill up the scorecard with 
+Gracefully stopping processes. But that never triggered the reported 
+bug of eventually breaking new requests for me (It is still good to 
+verify some busy tests on this part of the apache code)
+-> Therefore one of the reporters of the bug tested the ppa quite a 
+   while on his main machines that formerly were affected by the issue.
+-> no clear "do this then X happens" test case steps
+ 
+ [Regression Potential]
+ 
+  * It is a rather complex code change in the mpm event handling.
+Only the first change is to code, the other two are for the 
+documentation to match.
+We tested some apache benchmarks to check the effect, but found neither 
+a positive nor negative impact in general (other than the bug being 
+resolved). Yet if people rely on very specific behavior of the mpm 
+handling that might change a bit.
+It will change for the good of it, but always remember xkcd.com/1172
+   
+TL;DR: IMHO it clearly has a ">none" regression potential on the mpm 
+event handling
+ 
+ 
+ [Other Info]
+  
+  * Since this is hard to test we had a 2+ week test on the ppa, see 
+comments c#8 - c#15
+ 
+  * It clearly is a fix for some (e.g. the reporter of the bug), but I'd 
+understand if the SRU Team would rate it as feature and deny it for an 
+SRU - depends on the POV, certainly worth to be reviewed at least.
+ 
+ 
+ 
+ 
+ 
  On the clean install Ubuntu 14.04 with Apache without almost any client
  load the Apache server with the command "service apache2 reload" itself
  allocates slots marked with "Gracefully finishing" for which rejects new
  connections.
  
  For full rejection of new requests is sufficient to perform 4x command
  "service apache2 reload".
  
  Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS
  Apache 2.4.7-ubuntu4.4 (mpm_event)
  Kernel 2.16.0-30-generic
- 
  
  Reproduce problem:
  #
  1/ service apache2 start
  __W_
  ___.
  ..
  
  2/ service apache2 reload
  
  .GGG
  GGG__W__
  __
  
  3/ service apache2 reload
  
  ___W_GGG
  GGG__...
  ..
  
  4/ service apache2 reload
  
  
  G___
  W_
  
- 5/ service apache2 reload -> Server Apache not responding 
+ 5/ service apache2 reload -> Server Apache not responding
  With logs in apache error log file:
  ... [mpm_event:error] [pid 9381:tid 1234563234] AH00485: scoreboard is full, 
not at MaxRequestWorkers
  ...
  #
  
- 
- My workaround was change to  MPM module  from "mpm_event" to "mpm_worker".
+ My workaround was change to  MPM module  from "mpm_event" to
+ "mpm_worker".

** Changed in: apache2 (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Status: Incomplete => In Progress

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[Bug 1466926] Re: reload apache2 with mpm_event cause scoreboard is full

2018-02-26 Thread ChristianEhrhardt
14.04 is too far away to be reasonable for the backport for now, If one wants 
to try please feel free.
But Xenial is what was prepared and tested, so lets only go for that atm.

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[Bug 1466926] Re: reload apache2 with mpm_event cause scoreboard is full

2018-02-26 Thread ChristianEhrhardt
Thanks Tobias for all the tests.

With all that prep done I'll try to push it to SRU review now.

** Changed in: apache2 (Ubuntu Trusty)
   Status: Incomplete => Won't Fix

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[Bug 1466926] Re: reload apache2 with mpm_event cause scoreboard is full

2018-02-26 Thread Tobias Oetiker
The PPA version has been running without a hitch for the last 19 days on
16.04 ... I'd say it works fine

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[Bug 1466926] Re: reload apache2 with mpm_event cause scoreboard is full

2018-02-07 Thread Tobias Oetiker
I have it running on our production server since this morning ... log
rotation will happen every day around 6:25 CET ... I will let you know
in a few days if the problem is gone ... I have not noticed any
regressions in normal operation.

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[Bug 1466926] Re: reload apache2 with mpm_event cause scoreboard is full

2018-02-07 Thread ChristianEhrhardt
Hi Tobias,
thanks for the update - it isn't 100% clear to me, does the ppa completely fix 
the issue for you and also shows no other regression that you'd see?

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[Bug 1466926] Re: reload apache2 with mpm_event cause scoreboard is full

2018-02-07 Thread Tobias Oetiker
thanks for the test PPA ... I am running 2.4.18-2ubuntu3.6~ppa1 now on a
system that has been exhibiting the problem every few days ...

It is being triggered by logrotate restarting apache every day btw ... 
/etc/logrotate.d/apache2

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[Bug 1466926] Re: reload apache2 with mpm_event cause scoreboard is full

2017-11-15 Thread ChristianEhrhardt
To make it very clear that I have to rely on feedback of other affected
users in regard to the testcase and the ppa backport to test I'll mark
the X/T tasks incomplete.

** Changed in: apache2 (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Status: Triaged => Incomplete

** Changed in: apache2 (Ubuntu Trusty)
   Status: Confirmed => Incomplete

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[Bug 1466926] Re: reload apache2 with mpm_event cause scoreboard is full

2017-11-14 Thread ChristianEhrhardt
First of all I beg your pardon, for this bug being dormant.
We started to clear this kind of bugs recently, but obviously one can't do all 
in one day :-/
In this in particular I was made aware of by others being affected.

## CASE ##
For an SRU we need a reproducible case of some sorts.
On first try in the mpm event config as it is installed by default I can't see 
this issue.
Tried on Trusty and Xenial, but this stays at all waiting for connection.

I'm through some iterations on this and while not complete yet have some 
lessons learned, we need:
1. long running requests 
2. a graceful restart that puts all those into "G" for a while
3. a lot requests that fail due to most/all slots being blocked

After some iterations I got this two system setup:

# Server
# Prep somewhat large file non compressible file on server
$ dd if=/dev/urandom of=/var/www/html/test1 bs=1M count=32
$ dd if=/dev/urandom of=/var/www/html/test1 bs=1k count=4

# Client
# slow down to somewhat like an internet connection
$ tc qdisc add dev eth0 root handle 1: htb default 12
$ tc class add dev eth0 parent 1:1 classid 1:12 htb rate 4000kbps ceil 12000kbps
$ tc qdisc add dev eth0 parent 1:12 netem delay 200ms

# Client - 150 slow requests
$ ab -q -S -c 150 -n 150 10.0.4.30/test1
# Server reload to cause "G" state
$ apache2ctl status; apache2ctl graceful; apache2ctl status; sleep 5s; 
apache2ctl status
# Client many fast exceeding the few/no remaining workers
$ ab -q -S -c 150 -n 5000 10.0.4.30/test2

# I can see the status being clogged up in "G" on most workers {1} but things 
are still working fine :-/
There must be a way to reproduce this that isn't "be a webhoster for 4000 
people".
If one of the affected has something better please let me know.


## FIX ##
On the fix itself it is also a bit messy as there were multiple revision, 
splits of PRs and such.
What I found is that initial proposal of the fix that eventually got into 
2.4.25 is attached as [2], but was broken up upstream. There on the 2.4 branch 
it actually is [3] plus some doc fixups [4],[5] to be correct after the fix.


## Testing ##
For now I have made a ppa available for testing at [6].
This is a backport of the referred fix for Xenial - yet untested.
Since I can't reproduce yet I'm depending on you to:
a) test from the ppa if the fix is working (and showing no related regression
b) helping me with or without the ppa to create some working steps to reproduce


[1]: https://bz.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=53555#c39
[2]: 
https://bz.apache.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=34202&action=diff&collapsed=&headers=1&format=raw
[3]: 
https://github.com/apache/httpd/commit/e7407f84ec2a1b7f2c04775a230f147c08860c7c
[4]: 
https://github.com/apache/httpd/commit/86db1247c70699df6acad75f2491b8baa0030ff6
[5]: 
https://github.com/apache/httpd/commit/1a7e2114393c9dd9f8d87e53dfd74ce9ede3c3c0
[6]: https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/3034


{1}
18.8 requests/sec - 22.7 MB/second - 1.2 MB/request
1 requests currently being processed, 24 idle workers

PIDConnectionsThreads   Async connections
 total accepting busy idle writing keep-alive closing
2661 15no000   0  5
2697 22no000   0  0
2725 5 no000   0  1
2753 15no000   0  3
2589 8 no000   0  3
2815 52yes   124   0   0  34
Sum  117 124   0   0  46


G___
_W

Appendix: default mpm event conf is /etc/apache2/mods-available/mpm_event.conf
StartServers 2
MinSpareThreads  25
MaxSpareThreads  75
ThreadLimit  64
ThreadsPerChild  25
MaxRequestWorkers150
MaxConnectionsPerChild   0

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[Bug 1466926] Re: reload apache2 with mpm_event cause scoreboard is full

2017-11-14 Thread ChristianEhrhardt
** Changed in: apache2 (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Status: Confirmed => Triaged

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[Bug 1466926] Re: reload apache2 with mpm_event cause scoreboard is full

2017-07-10 Thread Haw Loeung
** Also affects: apache2 (Ubuntu Zesty)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: apache2 (Ubuntu Zesty)
   Status: New => Fix Released

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[Bug 1466926] Re: reload apache2 with mpm_event cause scoreboard is full

2017-07-10 Thread Haw Loeung
** Also affects: apache2 (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Also affects: apache2 (Ubuntu Trusty)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: apache2 (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Status: New => Confirmed

** Changed in: apache2 (Ubuntu Trusty)
   Status: New => Confirmed

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[Bug 1466926] Re: reload apache2 with mpm_event cause scoreboard is full

2017-07-06 Thread Anthony Somerset
Yes this is impacting on Xenial - when will this be backported to
currently supported LTS releases?

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[Bug 1466926] Re: reload apache2 with mpm_event cause scoreboard is full

2017-04-20 Thread Nick
Will this be backported to Trusty or Xenial?

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[Bug 1466926] Re: reload apache2 with mpm_event cause scoreboard is full

2017-02-21 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package apache2 - 2.4.25-3ubuntu2

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apache2 (2.4.25-3ubuntu2) zesty; urgency=medium

  * Undrop (LP 1658469):
- Don't build experimental http2 module for LTS:
  + debian/control: removed libnghttp2-dev Build-Depends (in universe).
  + debian/config-dir/mods-available/http2.load: removed.
  + debian/rules: removed proxy_http2 from configure.
  + debian/apache2.maintscript: remove http2 conffile.

 -- Nishanth Aravamudan   Fri, 10 Feb
2017 08:53:43 -0800

** Changed in: apache2 (Ubuntu)
   Status: Triaged => Fix Released

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[Bug 1466926] Re: reload apache2 with mpm_event cause scoreboard is full

2016-12-12 Thread Robie Basak
** Tags added: server-next

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[Bug 1466926] Re: reload apache2 with mpm_event cause scoreboard is full

2016-11-28 Thread ChristianEhrhardt
Thanks Steward to ping with the issue upstream now being resolved and a
patch available!

** Changed in: apache2 (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => Triaged

** Changed in: apache2 (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 1466926] Re: reload apache2 with mpm_event cause scoreboard is full

2016-11-24 Thread Stewart Campbell
A patch has now been committed to trunk for this bug:
https://bz.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=53555#c65

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[Bug 1466926] Re: reload apache2 with mpm_event cause scoreboard is full

2015-11-16 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

** Changed in: apache2 (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 1466926] Re: reload apache2 with mpm_event cause scoreboard is full

2015-11-16 Thread Henti Smith
This bug has been discussed on the apache bug tracker :

https://bz.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=53555

There seems to be no movement to fix this that I can see. there is a
patch which seems to fix it for users up to a higher usage level.

https://bz.apache.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=33158

** Bug watch added: bz.apache.org/bugzilla/ #53555
   https://bz.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=53555

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