[Bug 147844] Re: Resize window broken when titlebar is off-screen
But the only way to get your title bar off-screen in the first place is by Alt+dragging the window.. which means it can't go off-screen if the user doesn't know right click or modifiers in the first place... I think you've got your chicken and egg mixed up :) -- Resize window broken when titlebar is off-screen https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/147844 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 147844] Re: Resize window broken when titlebar is off-screen
...In the upper-left corner of (most) any window, right-click and select Move. Move your mouse upward and watch the titlebar disappear. To me, this bug is clearly that of confusion as the end-result to the user. At the very least, if you can't resize the window when the titlebar is offscreen, don't turn the mouse cursor into an arrow that implies that you can, and instead display a menu when the user wants to re-size to possibly get the titlebar back onscreen. That will confuse anyone. Martijn van de Streek wrote: But the only way to get your title bar off-screen in the first place is by Alt+dragging the window.. which means it can't go off-screen if the user doesn't know right click or modifiers in the first place... I think you've got your chicken and egg mixed up :) -- Jordan Erickson Owner, Logical Networking Solutions http://www.logicalnetworking.net 707-636-5678 Latest LNS Blogs - http://blogs.logicalnetworking.net RFID Passports coming in 2008 Peru orders 260,000 OLPC laptops for kids, Mexico 50,000 CNet to Microsoft: Ditch Vista -- Resize window broken when titlebar is off-screen https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/147844 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 147844] Re: Resize window broken when titlebar is off-screen
Jordan Erickson wrote: ...In the upper-left corner of (most) any window, right-click and select Move. Move your mouse upward and watch the titlebar disappear. I'm sorry, but you are mistaking. When you select move, and go upwards, the window resizes and goes halfway down. You are unable to move the titlebar out of the screen without using tha alt button. Also, I agree on the caused confusion. So, can this be fixed? -- Resize window broken when titlebar is off-screen https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/147844 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 147844] Re: Resize window broken when titlebar is off-screen
Not on my system (Ubuntu Gutsy i386 w/Compiz enabled)... This was a matter of preference last time it came up in a bug report, IIRC. I dunno if any Gnome/Ubuntu people are even willing to fix it since, to some, it's not really a bug. - Jordan Mark Schouten wrote: Jordan Erickson wrote: ...In the upper-left corner of (most) any window, right-click and select Move. Move your mouse upward and watch the titlebar disappear. I'm sorry, but you are mistaking. When you select move, and go upwards, the window resizes and goes halfway down. You are unable to move the titlebar out of the screen without using tha alt button. Also, I agree on the caused confusion. So, can this be fixed? -- Jordan Erickson Owner, Logical Networking Solutions http://www.logicalnetworking.net 707-636-5678 Latest LNS Blogs - http://blogs.logicalnetworking.net RFID Passports coming in 2008 Peru orders 260,000 OLPC laptops for kids, Mexico 50,000 CNet to Microsoft: Ditch Vista -- Resize window broken when titlebar is off-screen https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/147844 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 147844] Re: Resize window broken when titlebar is off-screen
Thank you for your bug, that's not a bug but a feature to allow users to move their windows back on screen when the titlebar is not reachable, the right click action is not considered discoverable enough ** Changed in: metacity (Ubuntu) Sourcepackagename: gnome-desktop = metacity Importance: Undecided = Low Assignee: (unassigned) = Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) Status: Confirmed = Invalid -- Resize window broken when titlebar is off-screen https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/147844 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 147844] Re: Resize window broken when titlebar is off-screen
Sebastien, what can I do to make this a feature request to remove then? I personally cannot see how this is an intuitive feature at all - I am a seasoned Linux professional and this feature had me very confused when I wanted to do nothing but resize my window while the titlebar was off-screen. It is very much easy enough to ALT+click/drag to move a window back, and right-click, if a user really is that confused, could give them the context menu. I find it extremely counter-intuitive. Thank you for your consideration. -- Resize window broken when titlebar is off-screen https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/147844 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 147844] Re: Resize window broken when titlebar is off-screen
Upstream read this too, you know :) I'll talk to my fellow-developers and look in the changelog and try to figure out what to do. (I don't remember this going in, so I don't have any recollection of whether this is the result of a compromise reached after some great primordial battle of the First Age of Gnome, or whether it was just something someone thought would be useful.) -- Resize window broken when titlebar is off-screen https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/147844 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 147844] Re: Resize window broken when titlebar is off-screen
Sebastien was correct: it was a feature added in the constraints- experiments branch at revision 2275 on 14 November '05: http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/metacity/branches/constraints_experiments/src/frames.c?annotate=2275 which made it into trunk along with everything else from that branch five days later: http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/metacity?view=revisionrevision=2306 (For reference, the code originally began if (!meta_core_titlebar_is_onscreen but was changed by me to if (!titlebar_is_onscreen) in June of this year.) That latter checkin includes a huge comment giving the rationale for all these changes, but this one doesn't appear to be specifically explained. So I suggest we ask Elijah what he thinks about all this; I'll ping him. -- Resize window broken when titlebar is off-screen https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/147844 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 147844] Re: Resize window broken when titlebar is off-screen
Thomas (and all), thank you very much! This is great. I was fumbling around for days wondering why I'd get a context menu (along with the actual 'move' mouse cursor). Weird behavior IMHO. There's got to be a better way (like ALT+click/drag).. =) - Jordan Thomas Thurman wrote: Sebastien was correct: it was a feature added in the constraints- experiments branch at revision 2275 on 14 November '05: http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/metacity/branches/constraints_experiments/src/frames.c?annotate=2275 which made it into trunk along with everything else from that branch five days later: http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/metacity?view=revisionrevision=2306 (For reference, the code originally began if (!meta_core_titlebar_is_onscreen but was changed by me to if (!titlebar_is_onscreen) in June of this year.) That latter checkin includes a huge comment giving the rationale for all these changes, but this one doesn't appear to be specifically explained. So I suggest we ask Elijah what he thinks about all this; I'll ping him. -- Jordan Erickson Owner, Logical Networking Solutions http://www.logicalnetworking.net 707-636-5678 Latest LNS Blogs - http://blogs.logicalnetworking.net CNet to Microsoft: Ditch Vista A Logical Choice in Education Spammers using Adobe .PDF attachments at full force -- Resize window broken when titlebar is off-screen https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/147844 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 147844] Re: Resize window broken when titlebar is off-screen
New users often don't know about right click or modifiers on the keyboard. That might look easy for somebody using computers a lot but take some minutes to ask to some standard users to move a window where the title bar is no displayed, a non negligable number will likely not figure what to do there -- Resize window broken when titlebar is off-screen https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/147844 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 147844] Re: Resize window broken when titlebar is off-screen
Confirmed. This is a bug on amd64 also. ** Changed in: gnome-desktop (Ubuntu) Status: New = Confirmed -- Resize window broken when titlebar is off-screen https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/147844 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 147844] Re: Resize window broken when titlebar is off-screen
** Attachment added: Screenie of context menu when trying to resize Firefox while titlebar is offscreen http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9628270/Screenshot.png -- Resize window broken when titlebar is off-screen https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/147844 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
