[Bug 1503773] Re: Drop ondemand init script
** Changed in: systemd (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1503773 Title: Drop ondemand init script To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1503773/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1503773] Re: Drop ondemand init script
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: systemd (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1503773 Title: Drop ondemand init script To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1503773/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1503773] Re: Drop ondemand init script
This continues to cause breakage - https://bugs.launchpad.net/charm- sysconfig/+bug/1873028 I'm still looking for a modern justification for it to exist - considering AFAIK no other distro does this. ** Description changed: Ondemand init script is not inherited from Debian, it's an Ubuntu specific change. Some reasons to get rid of it: On my wily cloud test, systemd blame's 669ms on ondemand on a cloud instance with no ability to change frequency.. - In the init script we don't run this for android - Ondemand is already on by default! Why don't we just always use whatever is that kernel's default? + In the init script we don't run this for android + Why don't we just always use whatever is that kernel's default? There are a number of other reported problems with it: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bugs?field.searchtext=ondemand -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1503773 Title: Drop ondemand init script To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1503773/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1503773] Re: Drop ondemand init script
** Also affects: systemd (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1503773 Title: Drop ondemand init script To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1503773/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1503773] Re: Drop ondemand init script
And it actually got added as a systemd job.. so this is not actually fixed. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1503773 Title: Drop ondemand init script To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bug/1503773/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1503773] Re: Drop ondemand init script
and by merge I meant sync.. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1503773 Title: Drop ondemand init script To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bug/1503773/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1503773] Re: Drop ondemand init script
It's been removed in Yakkety due to the merge from Debian. Thanks! ** Changed in: sysvinit (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1503773 Title: Drop ondemand init script To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bug/1503773/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1503773] Re: Drop ondemand init script
>AFAICT our kernel config is set to performance - why not just set it to ondemand? So from my understanding, the point of the ondemand script is really so we can have boot set to performance, and then switch later to something that saves more power. The goal is boot performance so If we survey machines and find that's it's harming or negligible to boot performance that makes a compelling argument against it - correct? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1503773 Title: Drop ondemand init script To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bug/1503773/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1503773] Re: Drop ondemand init script
@Steve Langasek A big issue is that the script makes quite arbitrary assumptions on the system, including the fact that there is an ondemand governor at all. A large number of modern systems use the intel p-state driver that does not have an ondemand governor at all! On this systems, the fallback mechanism in the script causes the system to always run in powersave mode, so hindering system performance for no reason. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1503773 Title: Drop ondemand init script To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bug/1503773/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1503773] Re: Drop ondemand init script
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: sysvinit (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1503773 Title: Drop ondemand init script To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bug/1503773/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1503773] Re: Drop ondemand init script
>which is to ensure that the desired governor is set for the running system. This is the key part that I don't understand, why don't we just trust the kernel? If the kernel sets the wrong governor on certain hardware isn't that the bug that needs fixing? On one system without this script it defaults to ondemand, on another it goes to performance.. AFAICT our kernel config is set to performance - why not just set it to ondemand? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1503773 Title: Drop ondemand init script To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bug/1503773/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1503773] Re: Drop ondemand init script
Please see my answer on bug #1497375. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1503773 Title: Drop ondemand init script To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bug/1503773/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
