[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2013-04-28 Thread Սահակ
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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-11-02 Thread Jasa Bartelj
I call FUD. I've encountered the whiteness bug on an AMD Athlon X2 /
nVidia nForce combo so Intel has nothing to do with it.

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Re: [Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-11-02 Thread Felipe Figueiredo
Please. Travis already explained (clearly) what causes the bug, this
has nothing to do with it.


On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 6:19 AM, mantonfl273 mantonel...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have an Nvidia video card and downloaded the latest driver as
 recommended. I have had no problems. I think the problem might be that
 the rest of you are running a system using an Intel chipset. I am using
 the Beta of Ubuntu 9.10, 32 bit version of Ubuntu on an AMD 64 Athlon X2
 chipset. I have always preferred AMD to Intel. That is just a personal
 preference. Maybe the Nvidia card is not working well on the motherboard
 with the Intel chip. Good luck.

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-11-02 Thread mantonfl273
I have an Nvidia video card and downloaded the latest driver as
recommended. I have had no problems. I think the problem might be that
the rest of you are running a system using an Intel chipset. I am using
the Beta of Ubuntu 9.10, 32 bit version of Ubuntu on an AMD 64 Athlon X2
chipset. I have always preferred AMD to Intel. That is just a personal
preference. Maybe the Nvidia card is not working well on the motherboard
with the Intel chip. Good luck.

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-10-31 Thread Travis Watkins
I'm upstream too. :)

When you first start compiz it has to redirect all of your windows so it
can manipulate them. Unredirect Fullscreen Windows makes compiz stop
managing the fullscreen window. This also puts the fullscreen window
above everything else so all the windows compiz is managing will always
draw underneath it. When another window pops up the only way we can show
it is to redirect the fullscreen window again. This is the cause of the
flicker, the window disappears while compiz is taking over drawing of
it.

This option is only useful for drivers that have a naive implementation
of GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, modern drivers implement so called zero
copy texture from pixmap so redirecting the window for compiz to manage
it is basically free.

So while flickering is not the intention there is also no way to stop
the flickering while this option is enabled.

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-10-31 Thread Chauncellor
How odd.

Well, then, I guess everything is settled. Thanks for the detailing,
Travis.

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-10-31 Thread manzur
Well but as some one in here said if this is an option and it behaves in
this way, we should remove that option from there, what could we use
that for?

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-10-31 Thread Travis Watkins
In the past it was worth using for the performance benefits even if it
did cause flickering for fullscreen applications that aren't video
games. We don't know if that is still the case for anyone so for karmic
at least the option will still be there for people that may need it.

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-10-31 Thread manzur
But I do really ask something: Does it have to flash when it is enabled
necessarily?

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-10-31 Thread Travis Watkins
There is no way for me to explain it better than I already have so I'll
just say this: yes.

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-10-30 Thread mac_v
Adding papercut task and milestones from the dup.

This bug was fixed by turning off the Compiz unredirect fullscreen
windows by default , so fixed as per the dup [ Bug #451907 ] bug's
request.

compiz (1:0.8.3+git20090917-0ubuntu2) karmic; urgency=low

  * debian/rules:
- remove metacity num_workspaces check from keybinding file (LP: #150918)
  * debian/compiz-manager:
- enable unredirect_fullscreen_windows if nvidia is detected
  * debian/patches/029_default_options:
- turn off unredirect_fullscreen_windows by default again 

 -- Travis Watkins amara...@ubuntu.com  Mon, 21 Sep 2009 08:56:25
-0500

** Also affects: hundredpapercuts
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: hundredpapercuts
   Importance: Undecided = Low

** Changed in: hundredpapercuts
   Status: New = Fix Released

** Changed in: hundredpapercuts
Milestone: None = round-10

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-10-30 Thread manzur
ok this has being fixed.. BUT should windows in full screen flick or
flash when unredirect windows in fullscreen option is enabled?

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-10-30 Thread Chauncellor
Manzur: I believe that the bug addressed the fact that applications were
flickering. Disabling that option fixed it, so the bug is fixed. It no
longer flickers.

I know where you're going, though. But I think that the fact that when
the option is enabled it does that calls for another bug. Again, the
problem of stock settings making things flicker has been fixed.

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-10-30 Thread manzur
Chauncellor: I know where you're going, though. But I think that the
fact that when the option is enabled it does that calls for another bug.
Again, the problem of stock settings making things flicker has been
fixed.

answer: I have reported this issue.. saying that even with Unredirect
Windows in fullscreen option enabled shouldn't flash BUT they say it is
a duplicate bug of this, any idea? ha

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-10-30 Thread Travis Watkins
There is no way to fix the flickering when this option is enabled,
that's a side effect of what that option does. The only fix it to not
use that option.

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-10-30 Thread Chauncellor
I doubt that the flickering is an intention, otherwise the option
wouldn't even be there in the first place.

Manzur: Have you submitted the report upstream to opencompositing.org?
Even if LP doesn't do a good job of sorting out the bugs, I'm sure that
if the compiz devs know the issue, they'll work on it.

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-10-30 Thread Chauncellor
Oh, hell, I'm stupid. The bug has been reported (though the description
is a little crappy).

So the right people know what's up. :)

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-10-12 Thread NRD
I recently ran into this bug with my nvidia 185.18.36 driver for my GTX
260 running an up-to-date copy of Ubuntu Karmic. while finding a
workaround to enabling fullscreen Youtube videos with opera and Firefox.

The fix states to uncheck the 'undirect fullscreen windows' option,
which did indeed work. However this created some horribly choppy
behaviour in Wolfenstein:Enemy Territory. So as a benchmark I would like
to suggest it, the game itself doesn't display a loss in FPS, but you
will notice objects 'jumping' when you move around the map.

For the time being I've rechecked the option in compiz, which fixes the
jumping in ET but I do miss my fullscreen Youtube vids.

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-10-12 Thread Jasa Bartelj
I've ran into problems with Wolf:ET too, although I've been able to
solve them by enabling UFW , running the game and then disabling UFW
again. Instead of running et I've created a simple script which must
be run:

gconftool-2 --set 
/apps/compiz/general/screen0/options/unredirect_fullscreen_windows --type bool 1
et
gconftool-2 --set 
/apps/compiz/general/screen0/options/unredirect_fullscreen_windows --type bool 0

Of course compiz needs to use gconf to store its settings. If you use the sound 
patch - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=362231
then just modify the existing script you use by adding the appropriate lines 
before and after et.

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-25 Thread Travis Watkins
Hi guys, thought you might like to know we've developed a workaround and
hope to get it included in the beta release. If it doesn't make it in
time for the beta it'll be in the repos right after the beta release.

If you want to test it now you can go to
http://people.ubuntu.com/~amaranth/compiz/ then download and install the
two .deb files there. You'll still have to go into
System-Preferences-CompizConfig Settings Manager and uncheck
Unredirect Fullscreen Windows in General Options since the previous
'fix' enabled this option for you. Once you have it installed reload
compiz (run `compiz ` in a terminal) and try to go to the Guest Session
in the user switcher (should be up by your clock). If the patch is
working correctly you'll see your screensaver when you log out of the
guest session instead of a white screen.

If you test this please comment here to let me know how it worked for
you.

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-25 Thread Jasa Bartelj
That's good to hear but my nvidia system is 32-bit and I only see amd64
packages, sorry.

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-24 Thread Chauncellor
For those that don't like glxgears, I ran Nexuiz fullscreen on Ultra
high quality with Unredirect both on and off.

Both ran at an average of 20 FPS. I did not notice any difference at all
in performance. In other words, both options sucked majorly, considering
this card should be able to more than handle that game :)

I'm not saying that means everyone else is like that, I'm just putting
that out there.

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-24 Thread Jasa Bartelj
Setting UFW to false has been most excellent improvement for me!

I do run nvidia's driver for my 7600gt and am affected by that whiteout
bug but I don't notice any performance drops here. I tested both
settings with the Phoronix Test Suite (unigine being the quickest full
screen test to set up) and there were no significant differences. The
results differed 2-3% at most.

Thanks a lot for the link, Jesper!

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-24 Thread Chauncellor
Last one:

Here're two Phoronix benchmark tests.

8600 GT

** Attachment added: render.png
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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-24 Thread Travis Watkins
Again, we're not as worried about performance problems as bug 160264.
Even if every single nvidia user reported here saying performance was
fine you would not get this fix until bug 160264 is fixed.

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-21 Thread Arnaud Soyez
Please EVERYONE, keep the bug report comments focused on the bug itself and not 
on off-topics.
Thank you.

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-21 Thread Travis Watkins
Right, thanks for the testing guys. Marking this bug as fixed. Only one
user seems to have performance problems with unredirect fullscreen
windows being disabled and that's with a driver that (at least used to
be) known for working just fine no matter what that setting was.

** Changed in: compiz (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed = Fix Released

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-21 Thread Սահակ
I can still reproduce this bug on a fully up to date 64 bit Ubuntu 9.10

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-21 Thread Kai Jauch
This is because the change was reverted on the latest update:

compiz (1:0.8.3+git20090917-0ubuntu1) karmic; urgency=low

  * New git snapshot of the 0.8 stable branch:
- fix assert failure when core is loaded twice
  * debian/patches/029_default_options:
- revert 'set Unredirect Fullscreen windows to false' change,
  it causes problems on nvidia system

 -- Michael Vogt email address hidden   Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:12:02
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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-21 Thread Chauncellor
So far, it seems that it's only caused problems to _some_ NVidia
systems, but the flickering problem affects _ALL_ systems.

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-21 Thread tankdriver
@Chauncellor:
did your get these figures with glxgears -fullscreen ?
Was the test really FULLscreen? (no gnome panels, tooltips or sth) ?

I can reproduce this performance issue on a 9600M GT, a 9500 GT and a
Intel ??? (Asus K50IJ)

From the reason given in the changelog above 
 it causes problems on nvidia system 
I think this problem won't be solved before Karmic Release.
Setting to Confirmed.

** Changed in: compiz (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-21 Thread Chauncellor
tankdriver:

The command was glxgears -fullscreen, but there were gnome panels
present (that's another bug, I belive). That shouldn't make a
difference, though, should it?

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-21 Thread DarthTibault
Disabling unredirect fullscreen windows is the fix.
Yes, there's a performance loss (700fps-280fps in fullscreen) on my GeForce 
8600M GT, but it's totally worth it.
I've been using it like this since the release of Jaunty, the flickering was 
unacceptable.
Bad performance on nvidia cards should be a separate bug, no?

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-21 Thread Travis Watkins
This bug is fixed. Your bug is in your drivers.

** Changed in: compiz (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed = Fix Released

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-21 Thread Travis Watkins
Sorry, actually it'll be fixed again in the next upload of compiz. The
change was reverted due to bug 160264 but to make sure we don't hit that
bit of fun in the nvidia driver again the compiz startup script will
enable this option when compiz starts if detects an nvidia card.

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-21 Thread Chauncellor
Does this mean that if compiz detects an NVidia card, it will tick
unredirect windows?

Basically, that means that this bug is fixed for everyone but NVidia
cards, right? Or am I reading this wrong.

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-21 Thread tankdriver
@Chauncellor: (#47):
yes, the panels make a big difference!!
@Chauncellor: (#51):
I think you read it right. 
This script will make high-graphics-performance tuned, mostly nvidia systems, 
flickering again!
(sorry for bad grammar)

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-21 Thread Travis Watkins
Right, nvidia users will have this option enabled every time they start
compiz. Until bug 160264 is fixed this and all other bugs caused by
unredirect fullscreen windows are effectively Won't Fix for nvidia
users. Luckily that means this bug is fixed for 70% of users according
to current GPU marketshare. ;)

I am sorry nvidia users, you should pester nvidia until they fix their
driver or vote with your wallet and switch to a Radeon.

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-21 Thread Chauncellor
I'm glad that this was at least partially resolved. Thank you all.

And I plan on buying an ATI as my next card. I've been fed up with
NVidia for a long time. I doubt their driver is going to be amazing
anytime soon, anyway.

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-21 Thread Louis Simard
Writing in to say that this bug still happens with an Intel card on the
latest Karmic alpha 6 packages. I get a flash to desktop when typing 10%
of the time, and when clicking the History arrow in Firefox 100% of the
time.

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-21 Thread Chauncellor
The closest I've found is from
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=95034, post 12:

Unredirect Fullscreen Windows

Unfortunately, the damn thing doesn't work properly. At this moment, it
doesn't seem to help the FPS lags, but in UT2004 it does manage to steal
the mouse focus so you can't play the game at all.

Alas, Unredirect Fullscreen Windows (UFW) is one of the buggiest
features in compiz and has had a long history of not working, half-
working and triggering other bugs. It seems most of the compiz
developers don't use any other 3D apps at all besides compiz itself.

So, the solution to your problem is a working UFW setting in compiz, but
this is the wrong forum to get a fix.

I'm guessing that this means I should open a thread that explains that
unredirect works fine for cards except NV, but I want to be sure before
I start opening threads.

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-21 Thread tankdriver
Thanks too.
Is there already a bugreport/forumthread at nvidia concerning this special 
issue?

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-21 Thread Travis Watkins
Looks like there are no threads on nvnews about this bug I believe I
told AaronP about this directly on IRC when we first discovered the
problem so there wouldn't be any record of that.

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-21 Thread Travis Watkins
Louis: Yeah, the bug was fixed then unfixed due to bug 160264 but it is
fixed again in our compiz packaging bzr repo so the fix will be in the
next upload of the compiz package happening some time this week
(hopefully tomorrow).

Also, my last comment was missing a period after 'bug'. :)

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-21 Thread Louis Simard
Travis (#59): Ok :) Thanks for the status update. Will watch the
repositories this week.

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-21 Thread Jakob Unterwurzacher
Please don't use glxgears as benchmark - the results are irrelevant. See
http://lwn.net/Articles/323648/ .

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-21 Thread Chauncellor
I created a thread:

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=2089815

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-21 Thread Travis Watkins
The performance loss is bad but the main thing you guys should be
telling nvidia about is bug 160264 since nvidia won't get unredirect
fullscreen windows disabled until that bug is fixed even if the
performance gets better.

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-21 Thread tankdriver
I can see that https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160264 is filed with 
nvidia-graphics-drivers-180,
and karmic has 185, so am I right that it doesn't matter in karmic?

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Re: [Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-21 Thread Oli
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Travis Watkins amara...@ubuntu.com
wrote:

 I am sorry nvidia users, you should pester nvidia until they fix their
 driver or vote with your wallet and switch to a Radeon.


Did I blink and miss something? Since when was AMD/ATI considered a better
hardware/driver than nvidia? Through experience I have found the nvidia
driver buggy and sometimes filled with performance issues, *but* it also has
a lot going for it and its flaws are replicated in other brands. Quality
wise, it has always performed a lot better than any ATI hardware ever has
for me (though it's been a year or so since I've put myself through that
hell). nvidia almost just works.

Please, if you know of a mid-range AMD/ATI card that has
near-Windows-performing drivers and does just work (in 2 and 3 dimensions),
let us know...

If you don't and you're just talking ideology with fancy open source 3d
drivers, who gives a damn? Not me. I care about what *works*.

(Since you brought it up, and others carried it on, I didn't think you'd all
mind a couple more emails on the topic)

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-21 Thread Travis Watkins
tankdriver: No, launchpad works on source packages and the source
package for the 185 driver is, confusingly enough, nvidia-graphics-
drivers-180.

Oli: I don't get several duplicate crash bugs every week from fglrx
users. I don't get the same bugs for 3 years with fglrx users. Sure,
fglrx might be missing features and missing for a lot longer than
everyone would hope but it at least seems to not make my life harder.

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-21 Thread manzur
ubuntu 9.10 alpha 6 with latest updates... I can still reproduce this
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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-21 Thread Chauncellor
I'm not a heavy gamer, and I'm not a professional graphics artist. I
have a friend running an ATI that is slightly less good than my 8600 GT
quality wise, but it ran out of the box perfectly, no questions asked.
The only problem I've run into was a little bit of tearing.

What did I get with NVidia? In addition to MUCH more tearing and
sluggishness, I got a broken suspend for about a half a year while the
drivers were being neglected, and lots of other people got crashing
systems. Just look on the nvnews forums for the over one-year old thread
about the drivers bringing instability.

If I don't get the full power and potential of the card, I don't care.
Like you said, I just want it to work. And the drivers for ATI have
shown me that they seem to be going in a good direction. Just like
DarthTibault said, I don't care about getting native speed right now, I
just want my damn hardware to _work_.

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-17 Thread tankdriver
(On my nvidia machines, with enabled unredirect fullscreen windows, VSync 
enabled:)
I find It very interesting, that if you have a fullscreen video running and you 
move with your mouse to get the control bar,  the flickering is a frame with 
the desktop background.
And if your wait (control bar fades out), the flickering is a black frame.

So let me combine:
(1) compiz inactive  active : desktop background frame flickering
(2) compiz active  inactive : black frame flickering

I can live with nr (2), but nr (1) is really (eye-cancer) bad (especially if 
your have a bright background)
If its possible to turn the (1) flickering into a black frame, I would be 
satisfied.

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-17 Thread Travis Watkins
Unfortunately it's not, when compiz is being activated (either this way
or when starting it with `compiz`) everything disappears and the
background you are seeing is your X root window. At this point compiz
can't draw anything, it is trying to get textures for all of the
windows.

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-17 Thread tankdriver
OK, like I said performance is bad with disabled unredirect fullscreen windows.
Thats bad for:
- 3D Games,
- even Video performance (Mythtv) is worse (Video Playback speed feels wavy)
- other visual applications that are used to display smooth movements

set Unredirect Fullscreen windows to false makes following better:
- firefox
- inkscape
- image viewer
- audio player

I am personally in the first group. But I think most ubuntuusers are in
the last group.

I tested enabling/disabling the option while playing fullscreen video (via 
script):
It does not work. The settings will be assumed not until your move the mouse: 
flickering in any case

It would be nice to have a program, detecting what type of fullscreen
application is going to be started and then enable/disable Unredirect
Fullscreen windows.

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Re: [Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-17 Thread Jakob Unterwurzacher
tankdriver schrieb:
 OK, like I said performance is bad with disabled unredirect fullscreen 
 windows.
 Thats bad for:
 - 3D Games,

I tested that with Quake Live. I don't see any difference in terms of
fps. What did you get with what game?

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-17 Thread tankdriver
For example:
Nexuiz v2.5.1, singleplayer level 1, effects pretty high
Unredirect Fullscreen windows true : 30 - 35 fps
Unredirect Fullscreen windows to false: 55 - 60 fps

UbanTerror: max effects: 60fps in every configuration, but with true
the game is shivering (unplayable)

I somehow can't start glxgears in full fullscreen. Any ideas to compare
this performance issue?

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-17 Thread tankdriver
ok, now I got glxgears in fullscreen:

Unredirect Fullscreen windows true:
~$ glxgears -fullscreen
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh.  The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
2698 frames in 5.0 seconds
3293 frames in 5.0 seconds
3258 frames in 5.0 seconds
3291 frames in 5.0 seconds

Unredirect Fullscreen windows to false:
~$ glxgears -fullscreen
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh.  The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
1231 frames in 5.0 seconds
1324 frames in 5.0 seconds
1323 frames in 5.0 seconds
1322 frames in 5.0 seconds

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-17 Thread Chauncellor
I played Deus Ex through wine a few weeks ago perfectly fine with
Unredirect set to false. Of course, that's an outdated game, but I
haven't had any problems graphically since I first disabled it when
Jaunty came out. I've also played some tremulous as well. I'm on an
NVidia 8600GT

Unredirect Fullscreen windows set to true:
4042 frames in 5.0 seconds = 808.227 FPS
4034 frames in 5.0 seconds = 806.759 FPS
4115 frames in 5.0 seconds = 822.853 FPS
4057 frames in 5.0 seconds = 811.297 FPS
4129 frames in 5.0 seconds = 825.663 FPS
4075 frames in 5.0 seconds = 814.958 FPS
4169 frames in 5.0 seconds = 833.728 FPS

Unredirect Fullscreen windows set to false:
3985 frames in 5.0 seconds = 796.837 FPS
4081 frames in 5.0 seconds = 816.026 FPS
4144 frames in 5.0 seconds = 828.753 FPS
4115 frames in 5.0 seconds = 822.961 FPS
4052 frames in 5.0 seconds = 810.175 FPS
4088 frames in 5.0 seconds = 817.522 FPS
4016 frames in 5.0 seconds = 803.078 FPS

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-17 Thread draimus
Hi I've been watching this bug for a while because I wrote a small
fullscreen app that ran into this problem until I disabled unredirect.
I haven't noticed any performance degredation in the 5 months I've been
running 9.04 with the unredirect disabled.  So I decided to run some
benchmarks against not only the unredirect option but also against the 2
versions of the nvidia driver.  I run the 173.14 driver because I kept
seeing corruption in certain GTK apps so I wondered if that affected my
experience with the workaround.

My results show no performance impact for the workaround on my hardware.
That of course does not mean that specific video cards may not exhibit
the problem, but I believe I've discounted any specific nvidia driver
version as having any impact.

Benchmark: 
Nexuiz Benchmark Test
1024x768 Default FX levels
SHIFT-ESC timedemo demos/demo1

Hardware:
Thinkpad T61p
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T8300  @ 2.40GHz
nVidia Corporation Quadro FX 570M (rev a1) (256mb VRAM)
2GB RAM

Results (hope the font doesn't mangle the alignment):
Driver  Unredirect On   Unredirect Off
VersionFPS min/avg/max FPS min/avg/max
--
173.14  15/58/61  16/57/61 
180.44  82/149/263  83/149/263

My glxgears tests showed 60FPS constantly (not sure why everyone is
getting such huge numbers for that; is there a frame limit option?),
however the scene information in that utility is so simple I'm not
really sure it makes a very useful benchmark.

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-17 Thread draimus
Well looks like I failed at alignment.  Here 's just the results in
launchpad friendly format:

Driver Version = 173.14  Unredirect = Enabled  min/avg/max FPS = 15/58/61
Driver Version = 173.14  Unredirect = Disabled  min/avg/max FPS = 16/57/61
Driver Version = 180.44  Unredirect = Enabled  min/avg/max FPS = 82/149/263
Driver Version = 180.44  Unredirect = Disabled  min/avg/max FPS = 83/149/263

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-16 Thread tankdriver
after the latest updates the flickering is over for me.
compiz (1:0.8.3+git20090915-0ubuntu1)

But is seems to be that the 3D performance is very bad now.
The bug is NOT FIXED, thats just a BAD workaround.
(see changelog: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz )

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-16 Thread Travis Watkins
There is no other possible fix, unredirect fullscreen windows basically
turns off compiz when you have a fullscreen window so then when another
window (totem play/pause bar for example) appears compiz has to be
turned back on which always flickers as it redirects everything again.

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-10 Thread Chauncellor
it's more than just a flicker for me on Karmic A5, now. It's full-blown
chaotic flickering that doesn't stop until you leave your mouse still.

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-04 Thread El Toozero
This bug is still happening in Karmic as of Alpha 5, I have consolidated
another duplicate bug, but the workaround posted on tombuntu or Bruched
fix are effective for alleviating the flicker behavior in Firefox.

** Tags added: karmic

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-01 Thread Jasa Bartelj
This is most annoying with the new notification system.

Imagine watching a fullscreen video and a notification about some IM contact 
appearing online causes a fllicker (a quick desktop background flash).
If one has a lot of contacts these notifications appear many times a minute and 
the watching experience is interrupted.

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-09-01 Thread tankdriver
(just a theory:)
I think this bug causes in some way #420419 (mouse settings messed up after 
flickering during gaming)
(This is to heavy to be a papercut, Am I right?)

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-08-13 Thread Chauncellor
Has anyone had less performance with this option checked? If not, why
don't we just have this option by default?

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-08-13 Thread manzur
because it is not the right way to solve, i think it is due to an
internal code error

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Re: [Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-08-13 Thread Julian Lam
After I posted my last response, I realized that the Legacy Fullscreen
option in compizconfig-settings-manager didn't actually resolve the problem.
It reduced it, but flickers to show the desktop still occur.

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 11:28 AM, manzur sl.sola...@gmail.com wrote:

 because it is not the right way to solve, i think it is due to an
 internal code error

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 Status in Compiz: New
 Status in “compiz” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed

 Bug description:
 Binary package hint: compiz

 Whenever a pulldown menu is activated (i dont know the right word here) the
 screen flickers and the menu does not work. Sometime the entire screen is
 filled with garbage momentarily. Other times a large diagonal bar flickers
 over the entire screen. REPRODUCE: use the firefox search bar to search for
 a couple of words starting with aa. Then move into the search box and type
 an a and possibly arrow down key. this should pop up a list of previous
 search terms, but instead just causes flickering and strangeness. by moving
 the window out of fullscreen mode (into maximized state only, for example)
 everything works nicely.

 This is gutsy, updated/upgraded via apt-get yesterday, running on a lenovo
 thinkpad x60 w/intel 945 graphics.  OpenGL programs work nicely on this
 machine, with compiz they are somewhat slower.  I run the normal X server,
 not Xgl, since when I enable Xgl everything except panning between
 workspaces gets very slow (wobbling, for instance).

 I have enabled extra desktop effects - wobbling, panning workspace
 switching (not the cube). I run many workspaces and switch between them with
 ctrl-f1, ctrl-f2 etc.

 I usually dedicate some workspaces to running applications in full-screen
 (not maximized, but full-screen) mode - an xterm for irc on one workspace, a
 fullscreen firefox on another, etc. Normally I have a desktop shortcut
 (shift-ctrl-enter) to toggle fullscreen, so i use it a lot.



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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-06-24 Thread Eduard Grebe
I experience this problem in a fresh install of Jaunty on machine with
an Intel video chipset. The unredirect workaround solves the problem for
me.

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-06-19 Thread Thomas Bertels
** Bug watch added: Compiz Plugins / Config Bugs #1181
   http://bugs.opencompositing.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1181

** Also affects: compiz via
   http://bugs.opencompositing.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1181
   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-06-19 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: compiz
   Status: Unknown = New

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-06-13 Thread warren
Although the undirect fullscreen windows fix worked for me, I still
believe that my bug has been marked as a duplicate of this one in error.
The author of this bug states that garbage appears on the screen when a
popup appears.  In my case I can confirm that it is always the desktop
background.

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-05-19 Thread Joel Auterson
Brucehd's fix worked for me on Jaunty.

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Re: [Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-05-19 Thread Daniel Bolduc
On April 24, i removed Ubuntu 7.10 and erase partition, and I installed
Jaunty.
I didn't install Compiz yet and i didn't made the tests yet.
With this PC, i didn't like Compiz in the past, I keep regular mode no extra
effect.

In the future, when I will get a new PC with more memory and Video Card more
performant
i will activate Compiz.

You're the second one today to answer me for a question i posted in the past
more than one year.

Thanks

Daniel Bolduc

2009/5/19 Joel Auterson joel.auter...@hotmail.co.uk

 Brucehd's fix worked for me on Jaunty.

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 Status in “compiz” source package in Ubuntu: Confirmed

 Bug description:
 Binary package hint: compiz

 Whenever a pulldown menu is activated (i dont know the right word here) the
 screen flickers and the menu does not work. Sometime the entire screen is
 filled with garbage momentarily. Other times a large diagonal bar flickers
 over the entire screen. REPRODUCE: use the firefox search bar to search for
 a couple of words starting with aa. Then move into the search box and type
 an a and possibly arrow down key. this should pop up a list of previous
 search terms, but instead just causes flickering and strangeness. by moving
 the window out of fullscreen mode (into maximized state only, for example)
 everything works nicely.

 This is gutsy, updated/upgraded via apt-get yesterday, running on a lenovo
 thinkpad x60 w/intel 945 graphics.  OpenGL programs work nicely on this
 machine, with compiz they are somewhat slower.  I run the normal X server,
 not Xgl, since when I enable Xgl everything except panning between
 workspaces gets very slow (wobbling, for instance).

 I have enabled extra desktop effects - wobbling, panning workspace
 switching (not the cube). I run many workspaces and switch between them with
 ctrl-f1, ctrl-f2 etc.

 I usually dedicate some workspaces to running applications in full-screen
 (not maximized, but full-screen) mode - an xterm for irc on one workspace, a
 fullscreen firefox on another, etc. Normally I have a desktop shortcut
 (shift-ctrl-enter) to toggle fullscreen, so i use it a lot.


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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-05-04 Thread dopelover
I also confirm presence of this problem on Jaunty (i386) with Nvidia
proprietary driver.

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-04-18 Thread Joel Auterson
I can confirm this on the Jaunty RC, and also confirm that brucehd's fix
works, at least in Firefox.

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-04-11 Thread viktor
Confirmed on up-to-date Jaunty beta (April-11) : flickering occurs in
fullscreen mode with compiz activated in VLC and Totem at least.

Nvidia GeForce 7300 LE with proprietary driver v180 activated and 512MB
dedicated.

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-04-08 Thread JoaoH
Jaunty 9.04 Beta:
HP G60 Laptop, Intel Graphics card, 2.0GHz Dual Core, 2Gig Memory, 16 wide 
screen (1366x768).

I seem to have the similar problem, when running Firefox in full screen
mode, everytime I right click the whole screen flickers. Rather
annoying.

A couple of test I did and wanted to pass on to whom ever might be
interested:

From command line, glxgears gives a performance of about 740FPS, with a slight 
hesitation/flicker sparatically.
If I run sudo glxgears I get almost 1100 FPS and super smooth operation.

If I turn off compiz, glxgears stays about the same, but sudo glxgears
drops to about 900 FPS.

Running /usr/lib/xscreensaver/glblur -window -fps gets me really bad 
flickering, can't even tell what the rate is.
If I run sudo /usr/lib/xscreensaver/glblur -window -fps, supper smooth 
results...


** Attachment added: screenshot of performance figures
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/25087689/GL_performance.png

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-03-24 Thread Kiwinote
It has indeed started again in jaunty. Confirming.

** Changed in: compiz (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Confirmed

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-03-23 Thread Սահակ
this issue reappeared again in Ubuntu 9.04

** Changed in: compiz (Ubuntu)
   Status: Fix Released = New

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[Bug 153204] Re: [MASTER] Applications are flickering/flashing in full screen mode

2009-02-20 Thread Kiwinote
This seems to have been fixed in jaunty. Feel free to re-open this bug
if the issue persists.

** Changed in: compiz (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed = Fix Released

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