[Bug 1535214] Re: zh_TW is not set as fallback locale when selecting Hong Kong as location

2016-01-21 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
Hmm... I don't know what "hash collision" means, but apparently there is
something wrong with your locale (which most likely explains why the
zh_TW.UTF-8 locale wasn't created successfully initially).

I would suggest that you regenerate all the locales with this command:

sudo locale-gen --purge

I don't speak any flavour of Chinese, so I'm not able to see what the
problem would be with certain labels in System Settings.

-- 
You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu
Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1535214

Title:
  zh_TW is not set as fallback locale when selecting Hong Kong as
  location

To manage notifications about this bug go to:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1535214/+subscriptions

-- 
ubuntu-bugs mailing list
ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs


[Bug 1535214] Re: zh_TW is not set as fallback locale when selecting Hong Kong as location

2016-01-21 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
Thanks for letting us know.

You may want to file a new pure translation bug - to the "Ubuntu
Translations" project - about the latter, in order to remind the
applicable translation team about it.

Closing this bug report.

** Changed in: language-selector (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete => Invalid

** Changed in: localechooser (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => Invalid

** Changed in: ubiquity (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => Invalid

-- 
You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu
Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1535214

Title:
  zh_TW is not set as fallback locale when selecting Hong Kong as
  location

To manage notifications about this bug go to:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1535214/+subscriptions

-- 
ubuntu-bugs mailing list
ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs


[Bug 1535214] Re: zh_TW is not set as fallback locale when selecting Hong Kong as location

2016-01-21 Thread Walter Cheuk
I reinstall the whole system anew, and the said problem is gone. Both
zh_TW and zh_HK appear in the 'menu language' list. And output of
command line seems to fallback correctly.

However, the labels under system settings are still not translated, like
the attached picture. They are translated in 14.04.

-- 
You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu
Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1535214

Title:
  zh_TW is not set as fallback locale when selecting Hong Kong as
  location

To manage notifications about this bug go to:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1535214/+subscriptions

-- 
ubuntu-bugs mailing list
ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs


[Bug 1535214] Re: zh_TW is not set as fallback locale when selecting Hong Kong as location

2016-01-20 Thread Walter Cheuk
en en_AU en_CA en_GB en_NZ en_US zh_CN zh_HK

-- 
You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu
Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1535214

Title:
  zh_TW is not set as fallback locale when selecting Hong Kong as
  location

To manage notifications about this bug go to:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1535214/+subscriptions

-- 
ubuntu-bugs mailing list
ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs


[Bug 1535214] Re: zh_TW is not set as fallback locale when selecting Hong Kong as location

2016-01-20 Thread Walter Cheuk
No prompt.

-- 
You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu
Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1535214

Title:
  zh_TW is not set as fallback locale when selecting Hong Kong as
  location

To manage notifications about this bug go to:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1535214/+subscriptions

-- 
ubuntu-bugs mailing list
ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs


[Bug 1535214] Re: zh_TW is not set as fallback locale when selecting Hong Kong as location

2016-01-20 Thread Walter Cheuk
Attached picture is what I got in 15.10. I just installed 'Chinese
(Simplified)' option and didn't change anything.

** Attachment added: "langsupportin1510.png"
   
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1535214/+attachment/4553833/+files/langsupportin1510.png

-- 
You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu
Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1535214

Title:
  zh_TW is not set as fallback locale when selecting Hong Kong as
  location

To manage notifications about this bug go to:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1535214/+subscriptions

-- 
ubuntu-bugs mailing list
ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs


[Bug 1535214] Re: zh_TW is not set as fallback locale when selecting Hong Kong as location

2016-01-20 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
That looks odd. When you open Language Support, are you prompted to
install additional language support?

Can you please let us know the output of these commands:

check-language-support

echo $(/usr/share/language-tools/language-options)

-- 
You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu
Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1535214

Title:
  zh_TW is not set as fallback locale when selecting Hong Kong as
  location

To manage notifications about this bug go to:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1535214/+subscriptions

-- 
ubuntu-bugs mailing list
ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs


[Bug 1535214] Re: zh_TW is not set as fallback locale when selecting Hong Kong as location

2016-01-20 Thread Walter Cheuk
The command completed with an error (see attached).

After a reboot, the 'language support' seems normal and I rearranged so
that zh_TW come next to zh_HK. Some commands output (apt-get) does
fallback to zh_TW, but the GUI such as the 'Personal', 'System' and
'Hardware' titles under system settings do not look perfectly as
expected (see attached).

** Attachment added: "failmsg.png"
   
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1535214/+attachment/4553889/+files/failmsg.png

-- 
You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu
Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1535214

Title:
  zh_TW is not set as fallback locale when selecting Hong Kong as
  location

To manage notifications about this bug go to:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1535214/+subscriptions

-- 
ubuntu-bugs mailing list
ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs


[Bug 1535214] Re: zh_TW is not set as fallback locale when selecting Hong Kong as location

2016-01-20 Thread Walter Cheuk
after reinstall

** Attachment added: "afterreinstall.png"
   
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1535214/+attachment/4553890/+files/afterreinstall.png

-- 
You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu
Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1535214

Title:
  zh_TW is not set as fallback locale when selecting Hong Kong as
  location

To manage notifications about this bug go to:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1535214/+subscriptions

-- 
ubuntu-bugs mailing list
ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs


[Bug 1535214] Re: zh_TW is not set as fallback locale when selecting Hong Kong as location

2016-01-20 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
Then please run this command:

sudo apt-get install --reinstall language-pack-zh-hant-base

-- 
You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu
Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1535214

Title:
  zh_TW is not set as fallback locale when selecting Hong Kong as
  location

To manage notifications about this bug go to:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1535214/+subscriptions

-- 
ubuntu-bugs mailing list
ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs


[Bug 1535214] Re: zh_TW is not set as fallback locale when selecting Hong Kong as location

2016-01-20 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
Also, please note that the selected time zone location in the installer
does not affect the LANGUAGE variable.

-- 
You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu
Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1535214

Title:
  zh_TW is not set as fallback locale when selecting Hong Kong as
  location

To manage notifications about this bug go to:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1535214/+subscriptions

-- 
ubuntu-bugs mailing list
ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs


[Bug 1535214] Re: zh_TW is not set as fallback locale when selecting Hong Kong as location

2016-01-20 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
On 2016-01-20 17:32, V字龍(Vdragon) wrote:
> I have the same issue, my default locale is zh_TW and want zh_HK
> locale to be fallback, like LANGUAGE=zh_TW:zh_HK:zh

Then what prevents you from opening Language Support and making that
change?

-- 
You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu
Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1535214

Title:
  zh_TW is not set as fallback locale when selecting Hong Kong as
  location

To manage notifications about this bug go to:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1535214/+subscriptions

-- 
ubuntu-bugs mailing list
ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs

[Bug 1535214] Re: zh_TW is not set as fallback locale when selecting Hong Kong as location

2016-01-20 Thread Vdragon
@Gunnar
There's no problem changing the settings via the Language Support UI, 
however it would be better if this is set default.
UPDATE: I read the bug description again and find out that this is not the same 
issue I've encountered.

-- 
You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu
Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1535214

Title:
  zh_TW is not set as fallback locale when selecting Hong Kong as
  location

To manage notifications about this bug go to:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1535214/+subscriptions

-- 
ubuntu-bugs mailing list
ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs


[Bug 1535214] Re: zh_TW is not set as fallback locale when selecting Hong Kong as location

2016-01-20 Thread Vdragon
I have the same issue, my default locale is zh_TW and want zh_HK locale
to be fallback, like LANGUAGE=zh_TW:zh_HK:zh

-- 
You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu
Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1535214

Title:
  zh_TW is not set as fallback locale when selecting Hong Kong as
  location

To manage notifications about this bug go to:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1535214/+subscriptions

-- 
ubuntu-bugs mailing list
ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs


[Bug 1535214] Re: zh_TW is not set as fallback locale when selecting Hong Kong as location

2016-01-20 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

** Changed in: localechooser (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Confirmed

-- 
You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu
Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1535214

Title:
  zh_TW is not set as fallback locale when selecting Hong Kong as
  location

To manage notifications about this bug go to:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1535214/+subscriptions

-- 
ubuntu-bugs mailing list
ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs


[Bug 1535214] Re: zh_TW is not set as fallback locale when selecting Hong Kong as location

2016-01-20 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

** Changed in: ubiquity (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Confirmed

-- 
You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu
Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1535214

Title:
  zh_TW is not set as fallback locale when selecting Hong Kong as
  location

To manage notifications about this bug go to:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1535214/+subscriptions

-- 
ubuntu-bugs mailing list
ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs


[Bug 1535214] Re: zh_TW is not set as fallback locale when selecting Hong Kong as location

2016-01-20 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
@Walter: If Traditional Chinese has been installed, both zh_TW and zh_HK
should indeed be available in the language list in the Language Support
tool. If any of them isn't selected, you'll typically find it as a
greyed-out item at the bottom of the list. In your case you should be
able to drag the "zh_TW" item so it appears at the top between the
"zh_HK" and "en" items.

-- 
You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu
Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1535214

Title:
  zh_TW is not set as fallback locale when selecting Hong Kong as
  location

To manage notifications about this bug go to:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1535214/+subscriptions

-- 
ubuntu-bugs mailing list
ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs


[Bug 1535214] Re: zh_TW is not set as fallback locale when selecting Hong Kong as location

2016-01-20 Thread Walter Cheuk
Try VirtualBox

-- 
You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu
Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1535214

Title:
  zh_TW is not set as fallback locale when selecting Hong Kong as
  location

To manage notifications about this bug go to:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1535214/+subscriptions

-- 
ubuntu-bugs mailing list
ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs


[Bug 1535214] Re: zh_TW is not set as fallback locale when selecting Hong Kong as location

2016-01-19 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

** Changed in: language-selector (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Confirmed

-- 
You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu
Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1535214

Title:
  zh_TW is not set as fallback locale when selecting Hong Kong as
  location

To manage notifications about this bug go to:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1535214/+subscriptions

-- 
ubuntu-bugs mailing list
ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs


[Bug 1535214] Re: zh_TW is not set as fallback locale when selecting Hong Kong as location

2016-01-19 Thread Mingye Wang
Assuming this a language-selector problem since this is the only thing
to choose language during installation that I can think of so far.

https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/wily/language-
selector/wily/revision/39 looks revelant, but it actually happened on
2008-03-06 -- almost 8 years ago, and there seems to be nothing about
zh_HK before then. Could you please point out when `before' actually
refers to?

* * *

And, well, a +1 on this bug, since some fallback is indeed necessary
here -- not only for zh_HK, but also for other smaller zh locales.

This tree roughly illustrates the 'relative distance' between locales.

zh:
  Hans: # simp script
CN
SG
  Hant: # trad script
TW
_geo_near_: # you might need a map here
  HK
  MO

For quite a while zh_HK users have been using zh_TW translations as
their main source of fallback text, especially for many translations
hosted on GNU TP. I haven't heard from any zh_MO users yet though.

Cross-script fallback is not recommended since:

  a. these chars do look quite different. (A user of one script is often able 
to recognize the other, but they look too different and can almost be 
spotted with a glance.)
  b. the terminology used show significant difference across scripts.

See also https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757867#c2 on some
locale info.

** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #757867
   https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757867

-- 
You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu
Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1535214

Title:
  zh_TW is not set as fallback locale when selecting Hong Kong as
  location

To manage notifications about this bug go to:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1535214/+subscriptions

-- 
ubuntu-bugs mailing list
ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs


[Bug 1535214] Re: zh_TW is not set as fallback locale when selecting Hong Kong as location

2016-01-18 Thread Walter Cheuk
** Description changed:

  In 15.10, when selecting Hong Kong as the user location during
  installation, zh_TW is not set as a fallback language like before (i.e.
- 'LANG=zh_HK:en' rather than 'zh_HK:zh_TW:en'). Worse still, there is no
- 'Chinese (Taiwan)' available in 'Menu language' in 'Language support'
+ 'LANGUAGE=zh_HK:en' rather than 'zh_HK:zh_TW:en'). Worse still, there is
+ no 'Chinese (Taiwan)' available in 'Menu language' in 'Language support'
  like before (Both of them should be packed into one locale option
  'Chinese (Traditional)'). This is a major issue as most Hong Kong users
  rely on zh_TW locale as many software are not translated into zh_HK.

-- 
You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu
Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1535214

Title:
  zh_TW is not set as fallback locale when selecting Hong Kong as
  location

To manage notifications about this bug go to:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1535214/+subscriptions

-- 
ubuntu-bugs mailing list
ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs


[Bug 1535214] Re: zh_TW is not set as fallback locale when selecting Hong Kong as location

2016-01-18 Thread Ubuntu Foundations Team Bug Bot
Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make
Ubuntu better.  It seems that your bug report is not filed about a
specific source package though, rather it is just filed against Ubuntu
in general.  It is important that bug reports be filed about source
packages so that people interested in the package can find the bugs
about it.  You can find some hints about determining what package your
bug might be about at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/FindRightPackage.
You might also ask for help in the #ubuntu-bugs irc channel on Freenode.

To change the source package that this bug is filed about visit
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1535214/+editstatus and add the
package name in the text box next to the word Package.

[This is an automated message.  I apologize if it reached you
inappropriately; please just reply to this message indicating so.]

** Tags added: bot-comment

-- 
You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu
Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1535214

Title:
  zh_TW is not set as fallback locale when selecting Hong Kong as
  location

To manage notifications about this bug go to:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1535214/+subscriptions

-- 
ubuntu-bugs mailing list
ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs