[Bug 153768] Re: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal
** Changed in: oem-priority Status: Confirmed = Won't Fix ** Changed in: oem-priority/oneiric Status: New = Won't Fix -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/153768 Title: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hal/+bug/153768/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 153768] Re: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal
It talks about HAL because that was the component responsible at the time the bug was originally filed way back when. I'll clean up the description a bit. ** Changed in: udisks (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = Triaged ** Summary changed: - External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal + External SATA (eSATA) removable disk not auto mounted -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/153768 Title: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk not auto mounted To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hal/+bug/153768/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 153768] Re: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal
Based on this commit, it looks like Export-achi-eSATA-attribute is already up stream, in both the userspace and kernel parts. http://cgit.freedesktop.org/hal/commit/?id=dea5997df8966719d707b7136621ffd37f69a4d7 This should be working on Oneric, the only thing that's left is to test. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/153768 Title: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hal/+bug/153768/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 153768] Re: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal
Ayan pointed out that this is filed against udisks since HAL is deprecated. Ignore the previous comment. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/153768 Title: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hal/+bug/153768/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 153768] Re: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal
** Changed in: udisks (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Won't Fix -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/153768 Title: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hal/+bug/153768/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 153768] Re: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal
This bug conflates eSATA detection and automounting. The current kernel does not support ahci 1.3 external or hotpluggable bits so udisks has no way of getting this information. We should probably make two bugs -- one for kernel support and another for udisks support. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/153768 Title: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hal/+bug/153768/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 153768] Re: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal
Why did you mark this as won't fix? The last time I spoke with pitti and others about this, the conclusion was that udisks can not and should not determine if a device is internal or external, but rather it should auto mount all devices, except those that were detected at install time and left unconfigured. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/153768 Title: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hal/+bug/153768/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 153768] Re: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal
@Philip Susi -- I marked it as Wont Fix in part because this doesn't seem to be a well defined bug. The description talks about HAL but marks udisks as affected. If the plan is to automount anything new then that is solely a udisks issue and maybe we need a bug with a clearer title and description. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/153768 Title: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hal/+bug/153768/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 153768] Re: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal
Sounds like it should be Incomplete instead of Won't Fix. Could someone (who can) please change the status? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/153768 Title: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hal/+bug/153768/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 153768] Re: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal
** Changed in: udisks (Ubuntu) Status: Won't Fix = Incomplete -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/153768 Title: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hal/+bug/153768/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 153768] Re: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal
** Also affects: oem-priority/oneiric Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/153768 Title: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hal/+bug/153768/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 153768] Re: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal
This bug was filed against a series that is no longer supported and so is being marked as Won't Fix. If this issue still exists in a supported series, please file a new bug. This change has been made by an automated script, maintained by the Ubuntu Kernel Team. ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Won't Fix -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/153768 Title: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hal/+bug/153768/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 153768] Re: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal
** Changed in: udisks (Ubuntu) Importance: Low = Medium ** Changed in: udisks (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) = Ayan George (ayan) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/153768 Title: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hal/+bug/153768/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 153768] Re: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal
** Also affects: oem-priority Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: oem-priority Importance: Undecided = Medium -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/153768 Title: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hal/+bug/153768/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 153768] Re: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal
** Changed in: oem-priority Assignee: (unassigned) = Chris Van Hoof (vanhoof) ** Changed in: oem-priority Status: New = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/153768 Title: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hal/+bug/153768/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 153768] Re: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal
This looks promising but needs to be an upstream solution. I've set the bug state to incomplete - please set it back if/when there's a solution from Jeff. Thanks ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Incomplete -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/153768 Title: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 153768] Re: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal
That is not correct usage of the incomplete state. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status. ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = Triaged -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/153768 Title: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 153768] Re: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal
** Changed in: linux Importance: Unknown = Medium -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/153768 Title: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 153768] Re: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal
** Changed in: hal Importance: Unknown = Medium -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/153768 Title: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 153768] Re: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal
** Changed in: hal Importance: Medium = Unknown -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/153768 Title: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 153768] Re: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal
@Phillip -- that patch looks promising, it would probabally be appropriate to send that upstream. The maintainers for that are listed below: M: Jeff Garzik jgar...@pobox.com L: linux-...@vger.kernel.org -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/153768 Title: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 153768] Re: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal
I hope that external attribute can be generalized to more hardware, such as Silicon Image SATA controllers. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/153768 Title: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 153768] Re: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal
@Andy -- I did. He replied that as I had already pointed out, the information is already exported in sysfs in another file. I replied that it is unusable there because the file is in the wrong place, and because udev doesn't do bitwise comparisons. He never replied. Maybe I'll poke him again about it. @Dana: That is an AHCI controller ( pretty sure just about ALL sata controllers are ), so this would apply to it. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/153768 Title: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 153768] Re: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal
Attaching kernel patch to export the AHCI external port bit. ** Also affects: linux (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Medium ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu) Status: New = Triaged ** Patch added: 0001-PATCH-Export-ahci-eSATA-attribute.patch https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/153768/+attachment/1781267/+files/0001-PATCH-Export-ahci-eSATA-attribute.patch ** Tags added: patch -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/153768 Title: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 153768] Re: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal
Reopening for udisks, since we can't detect that in the kernel either. ** Package changed: devicekit-disks (Ubuntu) = udisks (Ubuntu) ** Changed in: udisks (Ubuntu) Status: Won't Fix = Triaged -- External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/153768 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 153768] Re: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal
While I can see the difficulty in solving this problem, I do see it as a bug. If nothing else it's a functionality hindrance. From a system perspective there's no real distinction between a SATA port and an eSATA port, if I'm understanding things correctly. However, from a user's perspective, plugging in a USB drive just works and the drive is mounted and ready to go. Now, plugging the very same drive in via eSATA results in it not being mounted. In fact mounting it (under 9.10) requires a password. While some might not see this as much of an annoyance, I'm sure others like myself do. -- External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/153768 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 153768] Re: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal
** Description changed: -- External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/153768 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 153768] Re: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal
I have aa ASUS M3N78 Pro mobo with AHCI enabled on the sata ports and 2 of them are set as esata and wired to ports on the back of the case. They worked fine, automounting in jaunty, but after a clean install of 64 bit karmic, where they worked for a short time, after a few updates, they stopped automounting. They do show up in Places, listed right under the Computer icon. Clicking on them will mount the drives. One is NTFS and just mounts, the other has a full install of 32 bit 9.10 in ext3 and requires authentication to mount. I'm not convinced this is a bug, it may be a feature. The external esata drives are behaving exactly the same way my 2nd internal sata drive behaves. It does not automount unless I put it in /etc/fstab. This is fine for an internal dirve, but I would not want to put the externals in fstab, So as long as they show up in Places, it's not a problem. As long as I have 1 or 2 click access to the drives, it's ok. Adding the Disk Mounter to the top panel will give you a quick visual on when the drives are detected and let you mount and unmount them from there. -- External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/153768 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 153768] Re: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal
Realistically we won't ever fix this in hal, because of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Halsectomy . ** Changed in: hal (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Won't Fix -- External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/153768 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 153768] Re: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal
I just read the upstream kernel bug. If not even the kernel has a way of detecting this, we can't detect it in dk-disks either. The proposed whitelist seems cumbersome to maintain, and not really robust either. It's also pretty much a moot point now with the more general fix in bgu 465054. ** Changed in: devicekit-disks (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Won't Fix -- External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/153768 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 153768] Re: External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal
As seen in kernel.org bug report: Rejecting as INVALID. If someone has a machine with working ahci external port marking, I have patches to test but given that most other controllers don't have such feature, I think we need hal whitelisting one way or the other. -- hmm, I could use such patches, since I can say that my external port marking DOES work. Are these patches available on a mailing list somewhere? (It also makes me wonder: why make it difficult by not posting those patches on the upstream bug-report itself?) -- External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/153768 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
