[Bug 1546654] Re: Standard configuration proposal

[marmuta]

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[Bug 1546654] Re: Standard configuration proposal

[Francesco Fumanti]

@Ubuntu Sponsors Team

Sorry for adding the Ubuntu Sponsors Team a moment ago to this bug
thread; I wanted to add it to a different bug thread, but did an error
and added it to this.

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[Bug 1546654] Re: Standard configuration proposal

[marmuta]

I have this in trunk now, see screen-shot. I think I feel more
comfortable with enabling dock-expand on landscape screens this way.
Comments welcome. The aspect limit can still be removed in onboard-
defaults.conf or gsettings and you'll get the old behavior.

For the other changes requested by this bug report we will have to go
away from a single set of static defaults and select/calculate them at
runtime. It's not only docking, initial positions and sizes, but also
things like pointer-travel optimized repositioning, which I'd like to
see enabled for desktops but not for touch-devices.


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[Bug 1546654] Re: Standard configuration proposal

[marmuta]

@Sebastien

> it works fine and looks better imho, even on a desktop
Hmm, that squished look...I don't know. There's an awful lot of mouse travel 
necessary too. How about we put a limit on the aspect ratio and add 
semi-transparent bars to the sides? It'll look similar to GNOME's keyboard, 
only the bars would disappear gradually with increasing keyboard height.

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[Bug 1546654] Re: Standard configuration proposal

[Francesco Fumanti]

We leave the Onboard part of this bug thread open for the moment, as
marmuta might implement a smarter solution.

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[Bug 1546654] Re: Standard configuration proposal

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This bug was fixed in the package onboard - 1.2.0-0ubuntu3

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onboard (1.2.0-0ubuntu3) xenial; urgency=medium

  * debian/patches/add_defaults_for_ubuntu.patch:
- Add comments about where to find info about more keys
- Add keys about docking and expending the Onboard window
- Enable docking of Onboard window (LP: #1546654)
- Enable expanding in portrait and landscape mode (LP: #1546654)

 -- Francesco Fumanti   Thu, 25 Feb 2016
20:46:36 +0100

** Changed in: onboard (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 1546654] Re: Standard configuration proposal

[Sebastien Bacher]

@Francesco

Thanks for the update, I tried it on my xenial system in a guest
session, it works fine and looks better imho, even on a desktop, I'm
sponsoring it. Not changing the config on upgrade sounds fine, if users
are using to something better to keep it this way indeed

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[Bug 1546654] Re: Standard configuration proposal

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The attachment "onboard_1.2.0-0ubuntu2.debdiff" seems to be a debdiff.
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[Bug 1546654] Re: Standard configuration proposal

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[Bug 1546654] Re: Standard configuration proposal

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[Bug 1546654] Re: Standard configuration proposal

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[Bug 1546654] Re: Standard configuration proposal

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[Bug 1546654] Re: Standard configuration proposal

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[Bug 1546654] Re: Standard configuration proposal

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[Bug 1546654] Re: Standard configuration proposal

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[Bug 1546654] Re: Standard configuration proposal

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[Bug 1546654] Re: Standard configuration proposal

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[Bug 1546654] Re: Standard configuration proposal

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[Bug 1546654] Re: Standard configuration proposal

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[Bug 1546654] Re: Standard configuration proposal

[Francesco Fumanti]

@Sebastien

Onboard might already offer what you are looking for. In fact, Onboard
can read on its first run an optional defaults file. The purpose of this
file is to allow distributions to configure Onboard to their wishes.

The file is called onboard-defaults.conf and is installed by the patch
in the onboard package available in the ubuntu repository.

I am adding an updated version of the onboard package with docking and
expansion enabled to this bug thread. In other words, with this updated
version, onboard will be docked and stretched from left to right on
fresh ubuntu installation (to be more accurate, I should have said on
ubuntu installations, that did not run onboard yet).

A few words about the onboard updates offered here:

You might also wonder why I am providing two updates. In fact, I noticed
that the patch in version onboard_1.2.0-0ubuntu1 had not been refreshed
and was still referencing an older ubuntu version. Thus, I first created
onboard_1.2.0-0ubuntu2 that refreshes the patch and then
onboard_1.2.0-0ubuntu3 that adds docking and expansion accross the
screen to it.

You might wonder why the expand key is not enabled in the updated
onboard-defaults.conf for portrait mode. It is not enabled because it is
enabled by default for portrait mode.

Maybe an additional final remark:

There is also a way to force the settings in the defaults file on users
that did already run onboard in the past. By setting the "use-system-
defaults" gsetting key of onboard to true, onboard will read the
defaults file when it starts up, write all the configuration settings
provided in the file to the users gsetting keys and reset the "use-
system-defaults" key to false. In other words, if an onboard package
uses its post installation script to set the "use-system-defaults" key
to true for all users, their onboard gsettings key will be overwritten
with the values of the defaults file on the first onboard start after
the installation of onboard. However, I don't think that it is a good
idea to change the users configuration without notice and the updates I
am attaching here do not contain such a script.

Don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions; marmuta and myself will
be glad to help if we can.

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[Bug 1546654] Re: Standard configuration proposal

[marmuta]

The main reason the defaults are as they are, is that we haven't come up
with anything better that works equally well for all screen sizes.
Docking is great if there are fingers hovering over that general area of
the screen, but less so if there's a pointer that has to travel the
distance to the bottom. Stretching from edge to edge is a lot more
desirable on smallish touch screens than on pointer operated 24" and
larger monitors.

Judging by the bug reports we receive, tablet users seem to have become
the majority, though. Perhaps it's time to inconvenience them less, turn
on docking and stretching and accept the "broken" look on large screens.

At least short term. Medium term I think we could do better by adapting
the settings to the system at runtime. I've been thinking about this on
and off before, there would be a number of profiles to chose from, e.g.
"Tablet", "Desktop", "Keyboard scanning", etc. . The most suitable one
(hopefully) would be selected on first start, but it could be manually
changed any time afterwards. That's too late for Xenial, though, I
suppose. Too large of a change to get it accepted, probably.

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[Bug 1546654] Re: Standard configuration proposal

[Sebastien Bacher]

Thanks, I just found that bug while looking before registering a similar
one. The Ubuntu Desktop team discussed doing similar changes to the
default this cycle (at least docked at the bottom and streched, unsure
about the height one) ... onboard team, have those defaults ever be
considered? Is there any good reason we wouldn't want to do those
changes?

** Changed in: onboard (Ubuntu)
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** Changed in: onboard (Ubuntu)
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** Also affects: onboard
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 1546654] Re: Standard configuration proposal

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** Description changed:

  Hi,
  
  I think three changes to the standard configuration should be
  implemented:
  
- 1.) onboard Keyboard should be docket to the lower edge
+ 1.) onboard Keyboard should be docked to the lower edge
  2.) onboard Keyboard should be stretched to full horizontal size
- 3.) onboard Keyboard height should be increased, like 2/5 of the vertical 
hight.
+ 3.) onboard Keyboard height should be increased, like 2/5 of the vertical 
height.
  
  As example a screenshot of windows onboard keyboard:
  
  http://cdn2.pcadvisor.co.uk/cmsdata/features/3360300/fuller_keyboard.png
  
  Regards
  
  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 16.04
  Package: onboard 1.1.2-0ubuntu2
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.4.0-4.19-generic 4.4.1
  Uname: Linux 4.4.0-4-generic x86_64
  ApportVersion: 2.20-0ubuntu3
  Architecture: amd64
  CurrentDesktop: Unity
  Date: Wed Feb 17 18:08:56 2016
  EcryptfsInUse: Yes
  InstallationDate: Installed on 2014-09-13 (522 days ago)
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS "Trusty Tahr" - Release amd64 
(20140722.2)
  SourcePackage: onboard
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

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