[Bug 1593711] Re: Drop unneeded font dependency in birdfont
fixed in at least focal ** Changed in: birdfont (Ubuntu) Status: New => Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1593711 Title: Drop unneeded font dependency in birdfont To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/birdfont/+bug/1593711/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1593711] Re: Drop unneeded font dependency in birdfont
** Tags removed: bionic cosmic ** Tags added: disco -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1593711 Title: Drop unneeded font dependency in birdfont To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/birdfont/+bug/1593711/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1593711] Re: Drop unneeded font dependency in birdfont
** Tags removed: yakkety ** Tags added: cosmic ** Tags removed: xenial -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1593711 Title: Drop unneeded font dependency in birdfont To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/birdfont/+bug/1593711/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1593711] Re: Drop unneeded font dependency in birdfont
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[Bug 1593711] Re: Drop unneeded font dependency in birdfont
Thanks for marking this as New. Hope this hard dependency can also be demoted as has been done in the last days for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kodi/+bug/1685918 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libpdf-api2-perl/+bug/714588 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1593711 Title: Drop unneeded font dependency in birdfont To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/birdfont/+bug/1593711/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1593711] Re: Drop unneeded font dependency in birdfont
** Changed in: birdfont (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid => New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1593711 Title: Drop unneeded font dependency in birdfont To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/birdfont/+bug/1593711/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1593711] Re: Drop unneeded font dependency in birdfont
Thanks for your reply. However, there is a slight difference in situation you describe. I am referring to an installation of Tex Live with via its own installer. If you would change the dependency to recommended or suggested, all users will still install it, but have the freedom to uninstall fonts-roboto and provide an alternative in their own way. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1593711 Title: Drop unneeded font dependency in birdfont To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/birdfont/+bug/1593711/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1593711] Re: Drop unneeded font dependency in birdfont
Sorry, my understanding of Debian Policy and its spirit is that it is wrong for there to be multiple copies of the same font in Debian (or Ubuntu). Since birdfont needs Roboto, it needs to depend on the existing fonts-roboto package instead of shipping yet another copy of Roboto. Therefore, I am closing this bug. It really sounds like a bug in texlive-fonts-extra for it to ship duplicate copies of system fonts. It should look into using symlinks to the system fonts like birdfont does. https://anonscm.debian.org/git/pkg- fonts/birdfont.git/commit/?h=debian/sid=91d19a9 ** Changed in: birdfont (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Committed => Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1593711 Title: Drop unneeded font dependency in birdfont To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/birdfont/+bug/1593711/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1593711] Re: Drop unneeded font dependency in birdfont
There are hundreds of font files that have overlap. TeX Live will not remove all their fonts, so there must be a way to have it coexist and have flexibility on installation and deinstallation of fonts. For most of these fonts the user is free to choose what to do via package management. Only a few packages have unneeded dependencies on fonts. birdfont is one of these. Using font-config and fallback is the most elegant and dynamic way and allows dropping the depency and also no more need for need for including the TFF. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1593711 Title: Drop unneeded font dependency in birdfont To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/birdfont/+bug/1593711/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1593711] Re: Drop unneeded font dependency in birdfont
It sounds like TeXlive issue that has multiple fonts, not birdfont. It'd be better to send bug to texlive package in Debian BTS (NOT launchpad) and fix it, since root cause would not be fixed even if birdfont doesn't pull fonts-roboto. It would be better to change birdfont to use other fonts as failback, but it is not solution, IMO. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1593711 Title: Drop unneeded font dependency in birdfont To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/birdfont/+bug/1593711/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1593711] Re: Drop unneeded font dependency in birdfont
If one has installed TeX Live on Debian or Ubuntu, you have multiple font files for Roboto (and otehr packages). These are all found by font- config and that causes conflicts. the end-user does not always know which font files are being used. One solution is to deinstall the Roboto package from Debian or Ubuntu and let font-config use the files installed by TeX Live. However, some Debian or Ubuntu packages have dependencies on font packages. Those are highly undesirable, however some packages realy need specific font packages, such as birdfont that uses it as a fallback for missing glyphs. I am in favour that birdfont tries to find Roboto via font-config and if it doens't find that font, it tries to find another well-know font as fallback for that. So shipping the TTF is not needed if this approach is implemented. Current situation: - birdfont has depency on font-roboto - birdfont uses Roboto font via fixed file path to TTF Desired situation: - birdfont has no depency on font-roboto - birdfont uses Roboto Font via path from font-config - if that fails: birdfont uses GNU Freefont via path from font-config - if that fails: birdfont uses DejaVu Font via path from font-config -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1593711 Title: Drop unneeded font dependency in birdfont To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/birdfont/+bug/1593711/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1593711] Re: Drop unneeded font dependency in birdfont
No, please do NOT include ttf in birdfont. >TeX Live is not going to be packaged any time soon for Ubuntu or Debian :( There are no people that have time to do that. Which results in these kind of problems. No, Nobert works for TeXlive for both upstream and Debian. I don't get what is wrong with fonts-roboto package and why does texlive relate to birdfont depenency. Please describe more exact problem with it. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1593711 Title: Drop unneeded font dependency in birdfont To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/birdfont/+bug/1593711/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1593711] Re: Drop unneeded font dependency in birdfont
** Changed in: birdfont (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => Fix Committed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1593711 Title: Drop unneeded font dependency in birdfont To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/birdfont/+bug/1593711/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1593711] Re: Drop unneeded font dependency in birdfont
Roboto is now a part of the BirdFont source package and the dependency on the font-roboto deb can be dropped in the next release. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1593711 Title: Drop unneeded font dependency in birdfont To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/birdfont/+bug/1593711/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1593711] Re: Drop unneeded font dependency in birdfont
I will put Roboto in BirdFonts own folder and avoid installing it as a system font in order to make sure that there are no conflicts with other versions of the font. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1593711 Title: Drop unneeded font dependency in birdfont To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/birdfont/+bug/1593711/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1593711] Re: Drop unneeded font dependency in birdfont
TeX Live is not going to be packaged any time soon for Ubuntu or Debian :( There are no people that have time to do that. Which results in these kind of problems. So waiting for that is not an issue. Shipping the TTF is also not a good solution as again users might get font conflicts and/or you need to maintain that you have the latest version too. Is Roboto the only font which is suitable as fallback font? Otherwise, you could implement the following fallback with graceful degradation: Roboto -> FreeFont -> DejaVu. Than for sure one of those fonts will be picked up via fontconfig. If none is found, a warning can be presented to the user to install one of those fonts. That leaves for maximum flexibility. When the font dependencies are recommended or suggested, most users will pull in those packages anyway. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1593711 Title: Drop unneeded font dependency in birdfont To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/birdfont/+bug/1593711/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1593711] Re: Drop unneeded font dependency in birdfont
It might be possible to include the TTF file in the source package and skip the roboto deb but I would like to see a solution where TeX Live and the regular packaging system plays well together. Maybe I am wishing to much. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1593711 Title: Drop unneeded font dependency in birdfont To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/birdfont/+bug/1593711/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1593711] Re: Drop unneeded font dependency in birdfont
Are there other ways to loosen this requirement? This is for cases that Roboto is available but from TeX Live. As Ubuntu is behind with packaging that, it is an Ubuntu issue too. But suppose a system does not have Roboto, could it be a feature request that the user chooses another font? For example GNU Freefont is more frequently available and has one of the most broad support of glyphs. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1593711 Title: Drop unneeded font dependency in birdfont To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/birdfont/+bug/1593711/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1593711] Re: Drop unneeded font dependency in birdfont
The birdfont UI uses roboto and it will not work without it. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1593711 Title: Drop unneeded font dependency in birdfont To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/birdfont/+bug/1593711/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1593711] Re: Drop unneeded font dependency in birdfont
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: birdfont (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1593711 Title: Drop unneeded font dependency in birdfont To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/birdfont/+bug/1593711/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
