[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[Ian Johnson]

@zolika84 please start a new bug with details of what you expect/fail to
see from snapd on those systems, we don't explicitly support WSL2 yet,
there are some forum topics around that explain how you can make it
work, but snapd doesn't work OOTB in WSL2. I'm not sure what the issue
is with running on Chrome OS.

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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[zolika84]

Issue is still the same - the issue comes out when you try to run snapd
on a chromebook (linux terminal), or in WSL2.

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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[Samuele Pedroni]

Indeed snapd carries this on its own.

** Changed in: snappy
   Status: Incomplete => Fix Released

** Changed in: snapd (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete => Fix Released

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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[Treviño]

As for host restrictions I need to use LXC too (not lxd), what I needed
to get this working was just:

lxc config as:

# Mount local kernel modules dir, snap needs it for its bind-mount
lxc.mount.entry = /lib/modules lib/modules none bind,create=dir,optional 0 0

# Mounting fuse (for snap squashfs)
lxc.mount.entry = /dev/fuse dev/fuse none bind,create=file,optional

# Mount proc and sys in rw to get udev working for snaps
lxc.mount.auto=
lxc.mount.auto=proc:rw sys:rw

Once that snapd *and* fuse packages got installed (squashfuse too?)
snaps worked as expected.

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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[Michael Hudson-Doyle]

My understand of the status is that snapd grew its own code for mounting
snaps via fuse, which would make this MIR unnecessary.

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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre]

This MIR has been completed, but squashfuse is still not in main (and
apparently not Depend-ed on by snapd).

None of the referenced bugs mentions squashfuse, what is the status of
this?

** Changed in: snapd (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => Incomplete

** Changed in: snappy
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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[Scott Moser]

Bug 1756173 is set to put 2.32 into bionic and SRU to trusty, xenial,
and artful.

So if you're interested in this fix, watch that bug.

** Description changed:

  We're finally making progress on the apparmor stacking and snapd in
  container front. The next LXD release will include the needed support as
  will the kernel soon afterwards.
  
  With that, one can finally get snaps to install inside containers, but
  for any of it to work, squashfuse must be present in the container so
  that snapd can use it to mount the filesystem.
  
  squashfuse is in the archive and I've contributed support to snapd a
  while back, so all that should be needed is for the snapd package to be
  updated to depend or at least recommend squashfuse.
+ 
+ Related bugs:
+  * bug 1756173: snapd [SRU] 2.32

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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[Scott Moser]

** Also affects: snapd (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: snapd (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Confirmed

** Changed in: snapd (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Medium

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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[John Lenton]

I removed the "snap" package bug task, as I doubt this bug affects the
gene finder.

** No longer affects: snap (Ubuntu)

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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[Scott Moser]

** Also affects: snap (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: snap (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Confirmed

** Changed in: snap (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Medium

** Changed in: snap (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => Fix Committed

** Changed in: snap (Ubuntu)
   Status: Fix Committed => Confirmed

** Changed in: snap (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => Triaged

** Changed in: squashfuse (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => Fix Released

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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[Scott Moser]

This is fixed in snapd under https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/4049
It will be fixed in snapd 2.31.2

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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[Frode Nordahl]

Following previous discussions and proposals I understand there are some
issues with getting 'squashfuse' installed automatically for container
workloads.

In the meantime, for improved UX, would having "snap install" command
inform operator of 'squashfuse' dependency for in-container operation be
something?

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Re: [Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[Stéphane Graber]

On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 11:25:49PM +0300, Marat Khalili wrote:
> > The problem in your case is that you're trying to get this to work with LXC 
> > rather than LXD.
> 
> Should I understand it as snapd is not currently supported under LXC? No way 
> to reproduce manually in LXC whatever LXD does?

We don't directly support it in LXC, no.

If you want to replicate what LXD does, you're going to need to:
 - Bind-mount /dev/fuse
 - Allow /dev/fuse to be written to by the container
 - Create a new apparmor namespace and load the base apparmor profile into it 
(lxc-container-default in lxc's case)
 - Set lxc.aa_profile to point to that namespace
 - Add some kind of hook to cleanup that namespace when the container exits

> > I'd very strongly recommend against anyone using the configuration above 
> > with LXC as the lxc.aa_profile=unconfined [...]
> 
> Obviously not the best solution security-wise, but doesn't snapd provide its 
> own level of isolation? It shouldn't be worse than running snapd on host, for 
> people choosing not to rollout LXD?
> 
> (Sorry for being increasingly off-topic, but currently Google brings people 
> wishing to install e.g. nextcloud in a container here.)

Setting aa_profile=unconfined allows your container, to load, unload and
modify any apparmor profile on the host.

That means it can interfere with any process running on the system,
crossing container boundary. It can prevent random system processes from
functioning by loading new profiles or altering existings ones, ...

Even if all workloads are trustworthy on your system, you then have the
problem that only a single container can run snaps as running multiple
containers with snapd or having snapd run on the container and in the
host will result in apparmor profile conflicts with global policies
being modified every time snap-confine runs in one of the containers or
host.

Stéphane

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Re: [Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[Marat Khalili]

> The problem in your case is that you're trying to get this to work
with LXC rather than LXD.

Should I understand it as snapd is not currently supported under LXC? No
way to reproduce manually in LXC whatever LXD does?

> I'd very strongly recommend against anyone using the configuration
above with LXC as the lxc.aa_profile=unconfined [...]

Obviously not the best solution security-wise, but doesn't snapd provide
its own level of isolation? It shouldn't be worse than running snapd on
host, for people choosing not to rollout LXD?

(Sorry for being increasingly off-topic, but currently Google brings
people wishing to install e.g. nextcloud in a container here.)

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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[Stéphane Graber]

The problem in your case is that you're trying to get this to work with
LXC rather than LXD.

LXD images ship with a /lib/modules directory, ship with fuse pre-
installed, LXD sets up /dev/fuse by default for you and comes with
apparmor namespacing support so the container can load apparmor profiles
properly.

I'd very strongly recommend against anyone using the configuration above
with LXC as the lxc.aa_profile=unconfined part, combined with retaining
mac_admin and mac_override will cause snapd to overwrite apparmor
profiles of the host.

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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[Marat Khalili]

My problem was solved by:

1. Adding the following lines to the container config, then stopping and 
starting the container:
---
# Make snapd work
lxc.aa_profile = unconfined
# don't drop: mac_admin mac_override 
lxc.cap.drop = 
lxc.cap.drop = sys_time sys_module sys_rawio

lxc.hook.autodev = sh -c 'mknod -m 666 ${LXC_ROOTFS_MOUNT}/dev/fuse c 10 229'
---

2. Executing the following lines in the container:
---
apt install snapd squashfuse fuse # last one is necessary too!
mkdir -p /lib/modules
---

There can still be some intermittent apparmor errors during snap
installs, just trying again fixes them. I still wonder how it worked for
others out of the box.

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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[Marat Khalili]

---
root@test:/# lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description:Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS
Release:16.04
Codename:   xenial

root@test:/# apt install squashfuse
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree   
Reading state information... Done
squashfuse is already the newest version (0.1.100-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04.1).
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

root@test:/# snap install nextcloud
error: cannot perform the following tasks:
- Mount snap "core" (3440) ([start snap-core-3440.mount] failed with exit 
status 1: Job for snap-core-3440.mount failed. See "systemctl status 
snap-core-3440.mount" and "journalctl -xe" for details.
)

root@test:/# snap install hello-world
error: cannot perform the following tasks:
- Mount snap "core" (3440) ([start snap-core-3440.mount] failed with exit 
status 1: Job for snap-core-3440.mount failed. See "systemctl status 
snap-core-3440.mount" and "journalctl -xe" for details.
)

root@test:/# 
---

What I'm doing wrong?

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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[Andreas Hasenack]

Responding to comments #36 and #37, I can confirm that a xenial
container (x1) in a xenial host can install snaps after you install
squashfuse.

Without squashfuse:
root@x1:~# snap install hello-world
error: cannot perform the following tasks:
- Mount snap "core" (3247) ([start snap-core-3247.mount] failed with exit 
status 1: Job for snap-core-3247.mount failed. See "systemctl status 
snap-core-3247.mount" and "journalctl -xe" for details.
)


With squashfuse:
(...)
Preparing to unpack .../squashfuse_0.1.100-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04.1_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking squashfuse (0.1.100-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04.1) ...
Processing triggers for man-db (2.7.5-1) ...
Setting up squashfuse (0.1.100-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04.1) ...
root@x1:~# snap install hello-world
hello-world 6.3 from 'canonical' installed
root@x1:~#

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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[Felipe Alfaro Solana]

It seems 16.10 and 17.04 are still affected by this problem. Don't know
about 17.10 as I haven't been able to make it work properly under
LXC/LXD with Juju.

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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[Marat Khalili]

> Just to update my previous comment: poking around Stéphane Graber's
blog a bit suggests to me that I really shouldn't expect success with
this using less than 16.10.

Can someone please confirm it is really true? Bug description contains
Xenial, and this discussion -- https://github.com/lxc/lxd/issues/3421 --
talks about 16.04. But it indeed doesn't work even with squashfuse. May
it depend on container configuration?

** Bug watch added: LXD bug tracker #3421
   https://github.com/lxc/lxd/issues/3421

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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[dbclinton]

Just to update my previous comment: poking around Stéphane Graber's blog
a bit suggests to me that I really shouldn't expect success with this
using less than 16.10.

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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[dbclinton]

I've installed squashfuse on my Ubuntu LXC container (under Ubuntu
16.04.2) and then tried to install the NextCloud snap, but it's still
failing with this same error:

error: cannot perform the following tasks:
- Mount snap "core" (2381) ([start snap-core-2381.mount] failed with exit 
status 1: Job for snap-core-2381.mount failed. See "systemctl status 
snap-core-2381.mount" and "journalctl -xe" for details.
)

Any ideas?
Thanks,

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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[Magesh Kumar Rajamani]

Hi,

I am facing the same issue with Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS.

I get the below error;
@master:~$ sudo snap install conjure-up --classic
error: cannot perform the following tasks:
- Download snap "core" (2381) from channel "stable" (Get 
https://068ed04f23.site.internapcdn.net/download-snap/99T7MUlRhtI3U0QFgl5mXXESAiSwt776_2381.snap?t=2017-07-25T23:00:00Z=05c3f74d7c74d299152d151954a42eeb688eca41:
 x509: certificate signed by unknown authority)
@master:~$ 

Could anyone pls help me with this.

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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[Stéphane Graber]

squashfuse must be installed in the container that's going to run snapd
not on the host, so it can't be a dependency of LXD itself.

The image that's used for the LXD containers is an unmodified Ubuntu
cloud image. If we do go with seeding squashfuse for this, it would mean
that it would be included in all Ubuntu cloud images, regardless of
where they're run. squashfuse isn't exactly big though so that's
probably still an option. The main downside to this is that it wouldn't
apply to existing systems, only to newly deployed ones.

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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[John Lenton]

I understand this is high priority, but the PR you just wrote is a poor
copy of the older one from February where we attempted the same thing,
and it's just as wrong for the same reasons.

Is there really no other way to pull squashfuse onto the lxd images? I
don't know how they're built, but can't whatever pulls lxd also pull
squashfuse in? Or whatever pulls snapd? Are those seeded? I honestly
know next to nothing about how that's accomplished.

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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[Dustin Kirkland ]

Here's a pull request:

https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/3605

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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[Dustin Kirkland ]

This is high priority.

** Changed in: squashfuse (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => High

** Changed in: squashfuse (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Importance: Undecided => High

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** Changed in: squashfuse (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: Matthias Klose (doko) => (unassigned)

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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

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You meant https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/2856

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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[Michael Vogt]

https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/2830

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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[Stéphane Graber]

doko tells me that we now need snapd to depend on squashfuse so we can
finish the promotion to main.

mvo: Can you please do that?

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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[Stéphane Graber]

Autopkgtest added and passed in zesty.

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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[Stéphane Graber]

Should be easy enough to have an autopkgtest create a minimal squashfs
filesystem and mount it, I'll upload something along those lines to
Zesty. I'm assuming you don't need me to also SRU said autopkgtest to
all the stable releases until we have something more user relevant to
SRU right?

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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[Matthias Klose]

MIR review:

 - this looks fine, but the package doesn't come with a testsuite.
 - would it be possible to add a simple autopkg test?

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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[Stéphane Graber]

Yeah, a recommend would be absolutely fine here and wouldn't cause "apt
upgrade" to hold snapd, if I recall correctly, that's in fact what I
first requested.

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Re: [Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[Mark Shuttleworth]

We have to be careful with new dependencies because those cause issues
for 'apt-get update'.

Mark

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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

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Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

** Changed in: squashfuse (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[Stéphane Graber]

As requested by mvo above, this bug is now the MIR for squashfuse. The
same package is in zesty, yakkety and xenial so the result of the review
should apply equally to all series.

## Paperwork
Availability: in universe in all relevant series
Rationale: required for snapd inside LXD containers
Security: No bugs reported against package in Ubuntu or security related issues 
on Github
Quality assurance:
 - Packaging standard for a fuse filesystem
 - No debconf questions
 - No bugs
 - No bugs
 - Looked at in Ubuntu (never updated but was SRUed to all releases)
 - Not hardware dependent
 - No upstream testsuite, the plan is to have snapd tested inside LXD as part 
of snapd autopkgtest, which will indirectly exercise squashfuse
 - Has a watch file
UI: No UI
Dependencies: Depends on a bunch of compression libraries, all in main
Standards compliance: compliant
Maintenance:
 - Ubuntu Server team subscribed to LP bugs
Background information:
 - Needed for snaps inside LXD containers where using the kernel "squashfs" 
isn't possible (denied for unprivileged users).
Security:
 - No existing CVE or other security report for squashfuse
 - No suid/sgid binaries
 - Code will run as "root" in the case of LXD but doesn't have to, and "root" 
in the case of LXD means root inside a user namespace, so effectively an 
unprivileged user on the host.

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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[Stéphane Graber]

There is no point in SRUing to trusty so we won't be doing that. The
reason is that trusty containers will never be able to run snapd inside
them due to a decision not to enable apparmor nesting inside trusty
containers.

Trusty users are expected to run xenial containers if they care about
running snapd inside containers.

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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[Michael Terry]

Resetting bug status for MIR portion.  I generally find it easier to
follow MIR bugs when they are separate, but it's fine, we can do it here
too.

Doko, can you take this one?

** Changed in: squashfuse (Ubuntu)
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** Changed in: squashfuse (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[Michael Vogt]

I looked into this today and to move forward we need:
- a MIR for squashfuse as snapd is in main
- an upload of squashfuse to trusty because we support that as well now

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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[Michael Vogt]

** Changed in: snappy
   Status: Fix Released => Triaged

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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[Stéphane Graber]

Why was this marked as Fix released? As far as I can tell, snapd still
doesn't depend on squashfuse...

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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[Michael Vogt]

** Changed in: snappy
   Status: New => Fix Committed

** Changed in: snappy
   Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released

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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[Stéphane Graber]

Confirmed that squashfuse works as expected on Xenial.

** Tags removed: verification-needed
** Tags added: verification-done

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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[Stéphane Graber]

Marking the squashfuse side of this bug as fix released.

Now that squashfuse is available in xenial, yakkety and zesty, can
someone please change snapd to depend on it so that users of snaps
inside containers don't need to manually install it?

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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

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This bug was fixed in the package squashfuse -
0.1.100-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04.1

---
squashfuse (0.1.100-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04.1) xenial; urgency=medium

  * No-change backport to xenial (LP: #1628289)

 -- Stéphane Graber   Thu, 29 Sep 2016 12:08:47
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** Changed in: squashfuse (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released

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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

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Hello Stéphane, or anyone else affected,

Accepted squashfuse into xenial-proposed. The package will build now and
be available at
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/squashfuse/0.1.100-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04.1
in a few hours, and then in the -proposed repository.

Please help us by testing this new package.  See
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed for documentation how to
enable and use -proposed.  Your feedback will aid us getting this update
out to other Ubuntu users.

If this package fixes the bug for you, please add a comment to this bug,
mentioning the version of the package you tested, and change the tag
from verification-needed to verification-done. If it does not fix the
bug for you, please add a comment stating that, and change the tag to
verification-failed.  In either case, details of your testing will help
us make a better decision.

Further information regarding the verification process can be found at
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/PerformingSRUVerification .  Thank you in
advance!

** Changed in: squashfuse (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Status: New => Fix Committed

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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[Oliver Grawert]

@mark, oh, sorry, i should have mentioned that i was talking about
images here :) not classic. for classic there need to be feature
backports indeed.

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Re: [Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[Mark Shuttleworth]

Superstars, thank you :)

Mark

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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[Stéphane Graber]

The two kernel features we need for snaps in LXD are both scheduled for
backporting to the 4.4 kernel once we're satisfied that they are stable
in Yakkety's 4.8.

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Re: [Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[Mark Shuttleworth]

We can't ask people to install a new kernel to get one part of LXD. That
might work for 17.10, but not this soon after 16.04.

Mark

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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[Oliver Grawert]

kernel wise i was actually wondering if we shouldnt perhaps focus on the
-hwe lts kernels (probably a valuable topic for the sprint), but i guess
the 4.8 release from yakkety might be to late for us for GA to get
enough testing.

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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[Stéphane Graber]

Uploaded to the xenial queue.

** Changed in: squashfuse (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => In Progress

** Changed in: squashfuse (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Stéphane Graber (stgraber)

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[Bug 1628289] Re: snapd should depend on squashfuse (for use in containers)

[Stéphane Graber]

** Also affects: squashfuse (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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