[Bug 1687351] Re: Making GNOME really pleasant to use

2017-05-02 Thread carlix
I think gnome is perfect by deafult, it is just a matter of be used to
it, could be nice if ubuntu could include the gnome 3 classic by default
for noobs to not do a dramatic change inmediately and show people a
video with an introduction to gnome.

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[Bug 1687351] Re: Making GNOME really pleasant to use

2017-05-02 Thread carlix
** Changed in: gnome (Ubuntu)
   Status: Triaged => Opinion

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[Bug 1687351] Re: Making GNOME really pleasant to use

2017-05-01 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: gnome-shell
   Status: Confirmed => Expired

** Changed in: gnome-shell
   Importance: Critical => Medium

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[Bug 1687351] Re: Making GNOME really pleasant to use

2017-05-01 Thread Alberto Salvia Novella
This bug is triaged because it provides enough information for working
on it.

This bug is critical because it's more important that any other bug in
Ubuntu right now.

** Changed in: gnome (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Triaged

** Changed in: gnome (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Critical

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[Bug 1687351] Re: Making GNOME really pleasant to use

2017-05-01 Thread Adolfo Jayme
** Changed in: gnome (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Critical => Undecided

** Changed in: gnome (Ubuntu)
   Status: Triaged => New

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[Bug 1687351] Re: Making GNOME really pleasant to use

2017-05-01 Thread Alberto Salvia Novella
Probably the upper bar is not necessary at all.

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[Bug 1687351] Re: Making GNOME really pleasant to use

2017-05-01 Thread Colin Law
@c-hermansen by the HUD I meant the feature where one can hit the Alt
key and search the current application's menu hierarchy. Once one has
got used to that it is painful to lose it as one has forgotten where
everything is in the hierarchy (at least I have).

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[Bug 1687351] Re: Making GNOME really pleasant to use

2017-05-01 Thread Chris Hermansen
One of the main irritations I find with Gnome3 is that it takes up more
vertical space on a short/wide monitor than necessary, lessening the
amount of space I have to view my code or documents.

Unity does this nice thing where the top bar on the window hosts the
application menu; or when the application is maximized, the top panel on
the screen hosts the application menu as well as the identification
string.  I consider this to be very graceful design, fully cognizant of
the vertical limitations of the short screen and considerate of the
user's need to see as much of their work as possible.

Gnome3 is not as considerate.  The default (I guess, Adwaita theme?) is
to show a thick window top bar which provides little value for the space
it consumes.  There are plugins that try to address this problem, by
(for example) hiding the top panel unless the mouse is near, merging the
menu with the top panel when the application is maximized, and moving
away from the traditional menu bar completely to a set of controls,
often placed at the upper right side of the screen.

If anyone who is bothered by the same "vertical waste" could offer their
solutions I think that would be great.

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[Bug 1687351] Re: Making GNOME really pleasant to use

2017-05-01 Thread Chris Hermansen
I would like to offer a suggestion:  perhaps people who are trying out
Gnome3 shell and finding it wanting in some respect could state briefly:

1. what task is to be accomplished;
2. how that is accomplished in Unity;
3. what seems to be missing or clunkier in Gnome3 shell;
4. what Gnome3 shell plugin(s) was(were) involved, if any.

I don't know if this bug report is the right place to be addressing this
kind of thing but accepting for the moment that it is...

For example @colin-law says he misses the HUD.  I guess this means that
he misses pressing the "Ubuntu" key and seeing the files, applications
etc come up (although the same thing happens in Gnome3, more or less) or
the "search" bar (although IIRC there is a search function in Gnome3
shell).  But these are just guesses and I'm not able to determine
whether I can help Colin with an alternative unless I know a bit more
about what he is trying to do with the HUD.

(Colin, by the way this is no criticism!)

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[Bug 1687351] Re: Making GNOME really pleasant to use

2017-05-01 Thread Colin Law
The biggest thing I a missing is the HUD

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[Bug 1687351] Re: Making GNOME really pleasant to use

2017-04-30 Thread Alberto Salvia Novella
** Description changed:

+ I know this project doesn't like reports in video, but I think this is
+ the exception rather than the rule:
+ 
  https://youtu.be/vWIwjpE0lx8

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[Bug 1687351] Re: Making GNOME really pleasant to use

2017-04-30 Thread Till Kamppeter
Can you please write up here what you have discovered and want to get
fixed. This way it is much easier to know what this is all about,
instead of needing to watch a 15-min video.

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[Bug 1687351] Re: Making GNOME really pleasant to use

2017-04-30 Thread Alberto Salvia Novella
** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #782002
   https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=782002

** Also affects: gnome-voice-control via
   https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=782002
   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

** Changed in: gnome (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Triaged

** Changed in: gnome (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Critical

** Project changed: gnome-voice-control => gnome-shell

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