[Bug 173067] Re: Client Doesn't Inherit Keyboard Settings from Server
This bug fixed in ubuntu hardy ** Changed in: ltsp (Ubuntu) Status: New = Fix Released -- Client Doesn't Inherit Keyboard Settings from Server https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/173067 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 173067] Re: Client Doesn't Inherit Keyboard Settings from Server
The bug is in /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/lib/ltsp/configure-x.sh:
# Handle keyboard settings, default to console-setup settings
handle_keyboard_settings() {
XKBOPTIONS_TMP=$XKBOPTIONS
if [ -z $XKBLAYOUT ] [ -z $XKBMODEL ]; then
if [ -e /etc/default/console-setup ];then
. /etc/default/console-setup
fi
fi
test -z $XKBRULES XKBRULES=xorg
test -z $XKBMODEL XKBMODEL=pc105
test -z $XKBLAYOUT XKBLAYOUT=en
test -z $XKBOPTIONS_TMP XKBOPTIONS=$XKBOPTIONS_TMP
XKBOPTIONS handling is wrong, it *never* uses the values from console-
setup.
So, without any lts.conf, in my ltsp client /etc/default/console-setup I have:
XKBMODEL=pc105
XKBLAYOUT=us,gr
XKBVARIANT=,extended
XKBOPTIONS=grp:alt_shift_toggle,lv3:ralt_switch,grp_led:scroll
and in /etc/X11/xorg.conf I get:
XKBMODEL=pc105
XKBLAYOUT=us,gr
XKBVARIANT=,extended
and I can't change input languages.
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[Bug 173067] Re: Client Doesn't Inherit Keyboard Settings from Server
I deal with the same exact bug. The sollution is : When you running a client user. right click on Applications panel Add to panel Keyboard indicator Add right click on Keyboard indicator keyboard prefrences click on Layout options Groups Shift/Lock Behavior tick Alt+Shift changes group you have to do it with all users i ll check the configuration files to check why thats happening if you find anything let us know i hope i've helped you -- Client Doesn't Inherit Keyboard Settings from Server https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/173067 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 173067] Re: Client Doesn't Inherit Keyboard Settings from Server
In Russian we talk, I ask of Thomas, he answers about Jeremiah. Thank you, Nestor! Now I know what should I do when I encounter a bug. I should google for a workaround. But never, NEVER should I report the bug, 'cause developers are very-VERY busy, and it distracts them from their job. Let the bug survive in next releases. -- Client Doesn't Inherit Keyboard Settings from Server https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/173067 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 173067] Re: Client Doesn't Inherit Keyboard Settings from Server
Let it be one more piece in Edubuntu puzzle. One more, one less... -- Client Doesn't Inherit Keyboard Settings from Server https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/173067 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 173067] Re: Client Doesn't Inherit Keyboard Settings from Server
I'm not a developer, I'm just a user... and that's true, it's better to find on Google first, not only that, the best anybody can do is to try to solve it for his/herself, and later publishing the patch for others to use it, if it's possible. If it isn't possible, the best is to have someone reproducing the bug, but it's usually harder (I haven't been able to). So, if you could solve it by yourself (I'm sure you can), it would be nice that you published it so others can do the same, and eventually it could be included in some way on Linux... I know some russian hackers here at Spain that love that way of working, in spite of some [american] enterprises... Greetings! 2007/12/18, DenisM [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Let it be one more piece in Edubuntu puzzle. One more, one less... -- Client Doesn't Inherit Keyboard Settings from Server https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/173067 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Edubuntu Bugsquad, which is a bug contact for ltsp in ubuntu. -- Néstor Amigo Cairo +34 687 96 74 81 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Client Doesn't Inherit Keyboard Settings from Server https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/173067 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 173067] Re: Client Doesn't Inherit Keyboard Settings from Server
I need something more: your configuration files, for example, The system has tons of configs, which ones do you need? software you have installed, and so on. I've just installed Edubuntu (7.10). It doesn't offer an opportunity to select software during installation (please correct me if I'm wrong), so software installed is DEFAULT. You asked me be 'more explicit', so I've described installation process as detailed as I believe is needed. What else info do you need, disk partitioning, host name, user name, IP addresses - what? If I can't reproduce the bug, or at least, imagine what kind of bug can it be (I don't know if you use Gnome, Kde, Edubuntu uses Gnome by default, doesn't it? So I use Gnome. if it fails also for the Terminal)... It failes everywhere, if you mean Gnome Terminal. For now, I can only assume that you are right, that something's wrong in Edubuntu, and I'm sure you want to hear that, but nothing more to do for me. Please let me know what else can I do for you. By the way: You can try Gnome Menu: System - Preferences - Keyboard - Distribution And choose the correct one for your client. My (default) installation doesn't have Distribution tab in Keyboard applet. So, once again: the default Edubuntu installation doesn't have /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf, but in spite of that, the client has both layouts, English and Russian, and no layout switch set up. By default. -- Client Doesn't Inherit Keyboard Settings from Server https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/173067 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 173067] Re: Client Doesn't Inherit Keyboard Settings from Server
Ok, then, create: /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf (change i386 for other architecture if needed) and then, read: http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/handbook/C/ltsp-client.html When you're done, add: XKBLAYOUT = en [...] For now, setting a LTSP server is not a trivial thing. As usual with software, it is necessary to read the documentation, which is hard to write, before submitting a bug. Maybe in the future, setting a LTSP server will be automatic, but not for now. (BTW, doing common things is usually a trivial thing in Ubuntu, which wasn't so trivial in the past). I like to think about it the following way: with Free Software, like Ubuntu and Linux are, we take an active part in the development, meaning that we have the freedom to use it, but, please, remember that you can get this for free, BECAUSE many many people are spending their time in developing things, reading and writing documentation, and so on, and usually they don't get a Euro for it (nor do I). Applied to this case: why not going to the Edubuntu wiki, and changing the Documentation, adding this particular piece of information more clearly? You are completely free to do so, and even encouraged by Ubuntu folks. You can be one of those who made Ubuntu (and Free Software) be what is will be in some years. And be patient, please, freedom exists, but usually is not what we are taught at school, long is the path ;-) So, please, read the documentation (and change it if needed) before sending bugs. I think that your problem is only having the wrong configuration on the client. And server and client configurations have nothing to do, you can have your sever working perfectly, but your client not, if you don't create the proper configuration file, and set it properly, reading the documentation mentioned above. Greetings!! 2007/12/16, DenisM [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I need something more: your configuration files, for example, The system has tons of configs, which ones do you need? software you have installed, and so on. I've just installed Edubuntu (7.10). It doesn't offer an opportunity to select software during installation (please correct me if I'm wrong), so software installed is DEFAULT. You asked me be 'more explicit', so I've described installation process as detailed as I believe is needed. What else info do you need, disk partitioning, host name, user name, IP addresses - what? If I can't reproduce the bug, or at least, imagine what kind of bug can it be (I don't know if you use Gnome, Kde, Edubuntu uses Gnome by default, doesn't it? So I use Gnome. if it fails also for the Terminal)... It failes everywhere, if you mean Gnome Terminal. For now, I can only assume that you are right, that something's wrong in Edubuntu, and I'm sure you want to hear that, but nothing more to do for me. Please let me know what else can I do for you. By the way: You can try Gnome Menu: System - Preferences - Keyboard - Distribution And choose the correct one for your client. My (default) installation doesn't have Distribution tab in Keyboard applet. So, once again: the default Edubuntu installation doesn't have /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf, but in spite of that, the client has both layouts, English and Russian, and no layout switch set up. By default. -- Client Doesn't Inherit Keyboard Settings from Server https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/173067 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Edubuntu Bugsquad, which is a bug contact for ltsp in ubuntu. -- Néstor Amigo Cairo +34 687 96 74 81 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Client Doesn't Inherit Keyboard Settings from Server https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/173067 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 173067] Re: Client Doesn't Inherit Keyboard Settings from Server
BTW, I have been googling, and found this: http://www.gnome.org/learn/users-guide/2.14/prefs-keyboard.html On: http://www.gnome.org/learn/ you can find more information about Gnome, if you want to configure Alt-Shift to change your keyboard's layout (or change it in any other way), but (as I suspect) you don't have it in the client, just in the server. So you should be able to change your keyboard's layout, if you have it properly configured on the client, and that's a desktop usage thing, not a bug, again. If you're able to change it. If you cannot change it, then, it should be a [strange] bug, but it should be further studied. Anyways, it sound me like you haven't read the documentation... Try that, see if you can change the keyboard layout any other way (there are lots of ways to do this), create configuration files and so on (you can default Russian language for your keyboard with cyrillic characters and so on), if not, then it should be considered a bug. Good luck! 2007/12/16, Néstor Amigo Cairo [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ok, then, create: /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf (change i386 for other architecture if needed) and then, read: http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/handbook/C/ltsp-client.html When you're done, add: XKBLAYOUT = en [...] For now, setting a LTSP server is not a trivial thing. As usual with software, it is necessary to read the documentation, which is hard to write, before submitting a bug. Maybe in the future, setting a LTSP server will be automatic, but not for now. (BTW, doing common things is usually a trivial thing in Ubuntu, which wasn't so trivial in the past). I like to think about it the following way: with Free Software, like Ubuntu and Linux are, we take an active part in the development, meaning that we have the freedom to use it, but, please, remember that you can get this for free, BECAUSE many many people are spending their time in developing things, reading and writing documentation, and so on, and usually they don't get a Euro for it (nor do I). Applied to this case: why not going to the Edubuntu wiki, and changing the Documentation, adding this particular piece of information more clearly? You are completely free to do so, and even encouraged by Ubuntu folks. You can be one of those who made Ubuntu (and Free Software) be what is will be in some years. And be patient, please, freedom exists, but usually is not what we are taught at school, long is the path ;-) So, please, read the documentation (and change it if needed) before sending bugs. I think that your problem is only having the wrong configuration on the client. And server and client configurations have nothing to do, you can have your sever working perfectly, but your client not, if you don't create the proper configuration file, and set it properly, reading the documentation mentioned above. Greetings!! 2007/12/16, DenisM [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I need something more: your configuration files, for example, The system has tons of configs, which ones do you need? software you have installed, and so on. I've just installed Edubuntu (7.10). It doesn't offer an opportunity to select software during installation (please correct me if I'm wrong), so software installed is DEFAULT. You asked me be 'more explicit', so I've described installation process as detailed as I believe is needed. What else info do you need, disk partitioning, host name, user name, IP addresses - what? If I can't reproduce the bug, or at least, imagine what kind of bug can it be (I don't know if you use Gnome, Kde, Edubuntu uses Gnome by default, doesn't it? So I use Gnome. if it fails also for the Terminal)... It failes everywhere, if you mean Gnome Terminal. For now, I can only assume that you are right, that something's wrong in Edubuntu, and I'm sure you want to hear that, but nothing more to do for me. Please let me know what else can I do for you. By the way: You can try Gnome Menu: System - Preferences - Keyboard - Distribution And choose the correct one for your client. My (default) installation doesn't have Distribution tab in Keyboard applet. So, once again: the default Edubuntu installation doesn't have /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf, but in spite of that, the client has both layouts, English and Russian, and no layout switch set up. By default. -- Client Doesn't Inherit Keyboard Settings from Server https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/173067 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Edubuntu Bugsquad, which is a bug contact for ltsp in ubuntu. -- Néstor Amigo Cairo +34 687 96 74 81 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Néstor Amigo Cairo +34 687 96 74 81 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Client Doesn't Inherit Keyboard Settings from Server https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/173067 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. --
Re: [Bug 173067] Re: Client Doesn't Inherit Keyboard Settings from Server
Ok! You have to change lts.conf, usually in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf (version Gutsy 7.10), and add the following line: XKBLAYOUT=[language] where [language] can be es, en, fr, de... 2007/12/14, DenisM [EMAIL PROTECTED]: After booting from distribution CD (Classroom Server) I press F2 and choose Russian language. At the next screen I choose Alt-Shift (default) for toggling between layouts. After installation completes I login at server console and run terminal. Here I type any text in English, then press Alt-Shift and now type in Russian. Now I logout from the console and boot a client. I login at the client and run terminal. Here I type in English, then press Alt-Shift and type... in English again. Being at the client I run System/Preferences/Keyboard and see that there is no Group Shift/Lock behavior defined on Layout Options tab. -- Client Doesn't Inherit Keyboard Settings from Server https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/173067 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Edubuntu Bugsquad, which is a bug contact for ltsp in ubuntu. -- Néstor Amigo Cairo +34 687 96 74 81 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Client Doesn't Inherit Keyboard Settings from Server https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/173067 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 173067] Re: Client Doesn't Inherit Keyboard Settings from Server
After booting from distribution CD (Classroom Server) I press F2 and choose Russian language. At the next screen I choose Alt-Shift (default) for toggling between layouts. After installation completes I login at server console and run terminal. Here I type any text in English, then press Alt-Shift and now type in Russian. Now I logout from the console and boot a client. I login at the client and run terminal. Here I type in English, then press Alt-Shift and type... in English again. Being at the client I run System/Preferences/Keyboard and see that there is no Group Shift/Lock behavior defined on Layout Options tab. -- Client Doesn't Inherit Keyboard Settings from Server https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/173067 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 173067] Re: Client Doesn't Inherit Keyboard Settings from Server
What version of Edubuntu are you using? Maybe you have to manually create the file, if you don't have it. Of course, make sure that is the proper location (you might change i386 for x86_64, for example). The old place where it was located was /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf, if I'm right, but now that's not the recommended thing. You can try Gnome Menu: System - Preferences - Keyboard - Distribution And choose the correct one for your client. But you must be sure you put that line in your lts.conf, this is the first step to do, if not, I'm not sure you'll have the proper layout available. There are good howto's on Gnome, X.org and LTSP that might be helpful for you. I recommend you take a look at them. It's not usually a good thing not to read the documentation before asking, since you depend on other people, that may or may not be available at the time. GNU/Linux Edubuntu is plenty of igood Howto's, guides and so on. You could start at www.edubuntu.org, section Documentation. 2007/12/14, DenisM [EMAIL PROTECTED]: May be I wasn't clear enough - I do have BOTH layouts at the client (in spite of absent lts.conf), but I haven't a way to switch between them. -- Client Doesn't Inherit Keyboard Settings from Server https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/173067 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Edubuntu Bugsquad, which is a bug contact for ltsp in ubuntu. -- Néstor Amigo Cairo +34 687 96 74 81 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Client Doesn't Inherit Keyboard Settings from Server https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/173067 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 173067] Re: Client Doesn't Inherit Keyboard Settings from Server
May be I wasn't clear enough - I do have BOTH layouts at the client (in spite of absent lts.conf), but I haven't a way to switch between them. -- Client Doesn't Inherit Keyboard Settings from Server https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/173067 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 173067] Re: Client Doesn't Inherit Keyboard Settings from Server
What version of Edubuntu are you using? 7.10 (please see my first post). It's not usually a good thing not to read the documentation before asking, Whether am I asking? I'm reporting a bug. -- Client Doesn't Inherit Keyboard Settings from Server https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/173067 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 173067] Re: Client Doesn't Inherit Keyboard Settings from Server
Ok, I see... It's good that you reported the bug, and I would be very happy if I could reproduce it someway, but with that little information I won't be able to. I need something more: your configuration files, for example, software you have installed, and so on. If I can't reproduce the bug, or at least, imagine what kind of bug can it be (I don't know if you use Gnome, Kde, if it fails also for the Terminal)... For now, I can only assume that you are right, that something's wrong in Edubuntu, and I'm sure you want to hear that, but nothing more to do for me. 2007/12/14, DenisM [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What version of Edubuntu are you using? 7.10 (please see my first post). It's not usually a good thing not to read the documentation before asking, Whether am I asking? I'm reporting a bug. -- Client Doesn't Inherit Keyboard Settings from Server https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/173067 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Edubuntu Bugsquad, which is a bug contact for ltsp in ubuntu. -- Néstor Amigo Cairo +34 687 96 74 81 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Client Doesn't Inherit Keyboard Settings from Server https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/173067 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 173067] Re: Client Doesn't Inherit Keyboard Settings from Server
Sometimes clients inherit both layouts, but in any case server's and clients' setups never be similar. I've not catch any rule. -- Client Doesn't Inherit Keyboard Settings from Server https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/173067 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 173067] Re: Client Doesn't Inherit Keyboard Settings from Server
Could you please be more explicit? Please, add some more relevant info. Thanks!! 2007/12/12, DenisM [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sometimes clients inherit both layouts, but in any case server's and clients' setups never be similar. I've not catch any rule. -- Client Doesn't Inherit Keyboard Settings from Server https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/173067 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Edubuntu Bugsquad, which is a bug contact for ltsp in ubuntu. -- Néstor Amigo Cairo +34 687 96 74 81 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Client Doesn't Inherit Keyboard Settings from Server https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/173067 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
